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moderated Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Loy
 


I have the logitech K780. I do not like it for the key layout. It has round keys instead of the normal square ones. The function keys do not have the typical space after each group of 4. The arrow keys are small and below the shift key. There is not the typical  6 pack   keys. It is well made, very heavy and made with a groove at the top to put a tablet or phone. It does work with three devices, computer, phone and tablet.   I would like to sell it.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Check out the Logitech K780.
 someone else who I thin; is on this list, likes that one quite a bit, but I do not know about the keys separation.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:


Something to consider as well, find out the actual measurements before purchasing.
My wireless Logitech keyboard, not bluetooth, measures about 18 inches left to right and almost 8 inches front to back.
If it is an inch or two smaller, it may not have the key separation you want.
This is an older one, but the F-keys are separated into groups of four, it is exactly like a regular desktop keyboard.
In fact, I think I will look into a bluetooth transmitter that I could plug into an old desktop computer to turn one of those into a bluetooth keyboard.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Logitech K270 is a great wireless keyboard. It is a standard keyboard except it does not have a windows key on the right side. About $20 on Amazon.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

I assume you are talking about wireless keyboards, not necessarily bluetooth ones, since I believe there are very few choices for the actual bluetooth PC keyboards. If htis is the case, I can recommend my keyboard, it almost fits your requirements: Microsoft Wireless Comfort Desktop 5050. Function keys are not separated into groups of four, but what I've done is I put sticky dots on the function keys to make them into groups of four. I put bigger dots on F2 and F3, and I put smaller ones on F1 and F4, so that I can feel the whole group of 4 as a single block of keys.
HTH

--Tony

On 7/22/2020 1:14 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key?  In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?

moderated Re: FS renewal portal

Marty Hutchings
 

I don’t know just what I did, but the Payment button finally did show up, so I was able to complete the transaction.  Thanks.
 
Love in Christ
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If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: FS renewal portal
 
I would call 800-444-4443.  I had no issue on the portal page, but it did require me to create a separate account for the eStore.
Regards,
 
Jim Weiss
 

“God grant me the serenity to Accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference.  Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it.” | Serenity Prayer


On Jul 25, 2020, at 11:18 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:
 
I have been trying to take advantage of the 20% reduction in price for renewing my JAWS subscription, but I can't seem to get past the log in screen.  I even reset my pass word, but still no joy.  The odd thing is that I am able to get to the page where I can choose between the 1, 3, or 5 year plans, but when I make my choice, by hitting Space on the Order button, I can't get to the payment page to complete the order.  Has anyone else had a problem with their renewal?
 
moderated Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’ll look into that.  They just gave us the desktop app, but I had the sense that was just for setting up meetings. I’ll ask our IT team.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

 

I would suggest using the desktop app.

The browser tends to be problematic with regards to accessibility.

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Anyone figured out how to use chat in Webex?  JAWS will read some of the chats as they come in, but I cannot figure out how to get to that area and/or type a message.  I’m using Google Chrome to access meetings and JAWS 2020.

 

 

 

 

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Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

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moderated Re: bluetooth keyboard question

JOHN RIEHL
 

The key separation is excellent.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

 

Check out the Logitech K780.

 someone else who I thin; is on this list, likes that one quite a bit, but I do not know about the keys separation.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:



Something to consider as well, find out the actual measurements before purchasing.

My wireless Logitech keyboard, not bluetooth, measures about 18 inches left to right and almost 8 inches front to back.

If it is an inch or two smaller, it may not have the key separation you want.

This is an older one, but the F-keys are separated into groups of four, it is exactly like a regular desktop keyboard.

In fact, I think I will look into a bluetooth transmitter that I could plug into an old desktop computer to turn one of those into a bluetooth keyboard.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

 

Logitech K270 is a great wireless keyboard. It is a standard keyboard except it does not have a windows key on the right side. About $20 on Amazon.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:42 PM

Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

 

I assume you are talking about wireless keyboards, not necessarily bluetooth ones, since I believe there are very few choices for the actual bluetooth PC keyboards. If htis is the case, I can recommend my keyboard, it almost fits your requirements: Microsoft Wireless Comfort Desktop 5050. Function keys are not separated into groups of four, but what I've done is I put sticky dots on the function keys to make them into groups of four. I put bigger dots on F2 and F3, and I put smaller ones on F1 and F4, so that I can feel the whole group of 4 as a single block of keys.
HTH

--Tony

On 7/22/2020 1:14 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key?  In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?

moderated Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Richard Turner
 

Check out the Logitech K780.
 someone else who I thin; is on this list, likes that one quite a bit, but I do not know about the keys separation.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:


Something to consider as well, find out the actual measurements before purchasing.
My wireless Logitech keyboard, not bluetooth, measures about 18 inches left to right and almost 8 inches front to back.
If it is an inch or two smaller, it may not have the key separation you want.
This is an older one, but the F-keys are separated into groups of four, it is exactly like a regular desktop keyboard.
In fact, I think I will look into a bluetooth transmitter that I could plug into an old desktop computer to turn one of those into a bluetooth keyboard.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Logitech K270 is a great wireless keyboard. It is a standard keyboard except it does not have a windows key on the right side. About $20 on Amazon.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

I assume you are talking about wireless keyboards, not necessarily bluetooth ones, since I believe there are very few choices for the actual bluetooth PC keyboards. If htis is the case, I can recommend my keyboard, it almost fits your requirements: Microsoft Wireless Comfort Desktop 5050. Function keys are not separated into groups of four, but what I've done is I put sticky dots on the function keys to make them into groups of four. I put bigger dots on F2 and F3, and I put smaller ones on F1 and F4, so that I can feel the whole group of 4 as a single block of keys.
HTH

--Tony

On 7/22/2020 1:14 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key?  In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?

moderated Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Glenn / Lenny
 

Something to consider as well, find out the actual measurements before purchasing.
My wireless Logitech keyboard, not bluetooth, measures about 18 inches left to right and almost 8 inches front to back.
If it is an inch or two smaller, it may not have the key separation you want.
This is an older one, but the F-keys are separated into groups of four, it is exactly like a regular desktop keyboard.
In fact, I think I will look into a bluetooth transmitter that I could plug into an old desktop computer to turn one of those into a bluetooth keyboard.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Logitech K270 is a great wireless keyboard. It is a standard keyboard except it does not have a windows key on the right side. About $20 on Amazon.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

I assume you are talking about wireless keyboards, not necessarily bluetooth ones, since I believe there are very few choices for the actual bluetooth PC keyboards. If htis is the case, I can recommend my keyboard, it almost fits your requirements: Microsoft Wireless Comfort Desktop 5050. Function keys are not separated into groups of four, but what I've done is I put sticky dots on the function keys to make them into groups of four. I put bigger dots on F2 and F3, and I put smaller ones on F1 and F4, so that I can feel the whole group of 4 as a single block of keys.
HTH

--Tony

On 7/22/2020 1:14 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key?  In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?

moderated Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Loy
 

Logitech K270 is a great wireless keyboard. It is a standard keyboard except it does not have a windows key on the right side. About $20 on Amazon.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: bluetooth keyboard question

I assume you are talking about wireless keyboards, not necessarily bluetooth ones, since I believe there are very few choices for the actual bluetooth PC keyboards. If htis is the case, I can recommend my keyboard, it almost fits your requirements: Microsoft Wireless Comfort Desktop 5050. Function keys are not separated into groups of four, but what I've done is I put sticky dots on the function keys to make them into groups of four. I put bigger dots on F2 and F3, and I put smaller ones on F1 and F4, so that I can feel the whole group of 4 as a single block of keys.
HTH

--Tony

On 7/22/2020 1:14 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key?  In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?

moderated Re: bluetooth keyboard question

Tony Malykh
 

I assume you are talking about wireless keyboards, not necessarily bluetooth ones, since I believe there are very few choices for the actual bluetooth PC keyboards. If htis is the case, I can recommend my keyboard, it almost fits your requirements: Microsoft Wireless Comfort Desktop 5050. Function keys are not separated into groups of four, but what I've done is I put sticky dots on the function keys to make them into groups of four. I put bigger dots on F2 and F3, and I put smaller ones on F1 and F4, so that I can feel the whole group of 4 as a single block of keys.
HTH

--Tony

On 7/22/2020 1:14 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key?  In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?

moderated Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

Abraham Sweiss
 

I would suggest using the desktop app.
The browser tends to be problematic with regards to accessibility.

Thanks,abraham 

On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Anyone figured out how to use chat in Webex?  JAWS will read some of the chats as they come in, but I cannot figure out how to get to that area and/or type a message.  I’m using Google Chrome to access meetings and JAWS 2020.

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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moderated Re: Keystroke Reminder for Space & Paragraph Marker

Brian Vogel
 

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:15 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
press alt-h, then 8, then enter. It’s a toggle.
This works, too.  But there's no need to hit Enter, and doing so will generally result in you putting that into your document.  The display of edit markers comes up/goes away the moment after you've hit that 8 if you use ALT+H,8.

The same is true if you use CTRL+Shift+8, which has the disadvantage of being a triple-key shortcut because of the use of asterisk (shift+8).  The effect of the command is immediate.
 
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moderated is chat function in Webex accessible?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Anyone figured out how to use chat in Webex?  JAWS will read some of the chats as they come in, but I cannot figure out how to get to that area and/or type a message.  I’m using Google Chrome to access meetings and JAWS 2020.

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.

moderated Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

Van Lant, Robin
 

For this JAWS list, I have a rule that puts all the messages in one folder when received, arranged with newest at the top.  I then have the columns organized so that subject is the first item JAWS reads, after the read/unread icon. Then, I have Conversations turned on.  This puts all JAWS list messages of a single subject into  one collapsible item.  If  you use this view, you also need to go into Outlook options and look for the setting under Accessibility  for keyboard navigation and tell outlook not to automatically expand conversations as you arrow past them.  I still find that this can happen, especially when I first come to this folder, but it’s not bad.   I thought JAWS used to consistently tell me if a conversation was expanded or collapsed, but I’m not hearing it right now and not sure if that is a JAWS change or something I accidentally tweaked.  Nonetheless, you can tell it’s a conversation header item If you hear multiple names after a subject line, as it will read the names of those who have contributed to that thread.  If you are on the  top item in this conversation, hitting delete will delete all the messages in that thread. I get a warning that I’m doing that.   If the conversation is expanded, hitting delete on any of the message will delete just that message.

 

Hopefully this gives you some ideas of things you can do.  I’m headed into meetings for the rest of the day, so I don’t’ have time to elaborate more.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

 

A much more efficient way to delete items not of interest is to group by subject. I had this set, but some gremlin has undone it, and I can’t get it back.

Any Outlook hot-shot wonky wizards there to help?

 

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moderated Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

David Diamond
 

It’s a poor musician who blames their instrument.  LOL. 

moderated Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

Cristóbal
 

IN Outlook 2016, with a message wit the subject line highlighted, applications key then I for ignore to delete the conversation. Also, if it’s regarding a thread via Groups.IO, there’s always the mute option if you have an account which is easy enough to create.

Control plus the delete key also works.

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 7:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

 

I can’t remember who posted this alternative method, but it’s what I’ve been using for a while.

 

Press the applications key. Release.

Press f. Release.

JAWS verbalizes, “Messages in this conversation.” Press enter.

Shift-tab to land in this list of messages.

Control-a for select all.

Delete key.

 

To return to the original message list, press escape, then alt-tab, release, alt-tab a second time.

 

A little burdensome? Yes, but it becomes automatic.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

 

Oops! I *did mean *Conversation, *not Subject.

For some reason, even with lots of noodling, I can’t get the view I had. Dern cumputers!

 
moderated Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

Adrian Spratt
 

I can’t remember who posted this alternative method, but it’s what I’ve been using for a while.

 

Press the applications key. Release.

Press f. Release.

JAWS verbalizes, “Messages in this conversation.” Press enter.

Shift-tab to land in this list of messages.

Control-a for select all.

Delete key.

 

To return to the original message list, press escape, then alt-tab, release, alt-tab a second time.

 

A little burdensome? Yes, but it becomes automatic.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

 

Oops! I *did mean *Conversation, *not Subject.

For some reason, even with lots of noodling, I can’t get the view I had. Dern cumputers!

 
moderated Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

Dale Heltzer
 

Oops! I *did mean *Conversation, *not Subject.

For some reason, even with lots of noodling, I can’t get the view I had. Dern cumputers!

 
moderated Re: Keystroke Reminder for Space & Paragraph Marker

Adrian Spratt
 

Mitch, press alt-h, then 8, then enter. It’s a toggle.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Keystroke Reminder for Space & Paragraph Marker

 

Hi,  With Word 16, what is the keystroke to toggle space and paragraph markers on and off?

Thanks again.  Mitch

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
moderated Re: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

David Diamond
 

This is why moderators are reminding their group members to change the subject line if it has not been change and does not match the body of the subject line.  One does not want to throw the baby out with the bath water? 

moderated Re: Keystroke Reminder for Space & Paragraph Marker

Brian Vogel
 

CTRL+*  (CTRL+Shift+8)
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moderated Re: How to group by subject - Was: RE: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

Brian Vogel
 

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 08:38 PM, Dale Heltzer wrote:
group by subject.
No snark intended, but you've given your answer, or the exact thing you need to do, which is the hard part.

ALT+V (View Ribbon), AB (arrange by), J (subject).   I can't tell you how to go back to whatever arrangement you had without knowing what that was, and you'll need to look at how you've elected to group typically before changing it to subject.  For myself, I use Date (conversations) for my default view, so substitute a D where the J is in the other command sequence to go back to that.
 
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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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