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moderated Re: Time on email messages is wrong

Marty Hutchings
 

Glenn,  I will check that.

Thanks.

Marty

On 5/13/2021 5:46 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Marty,
I always assumed that the eMail program got the time from the host computer,
but possibly it is getting it from your router.
If so, maybe your router time is wrong.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Time on email messages is wrong


Greg, I have just sent an email from this account to my other account
and it appeared with the time stamp of 1 hour earlier. This is buzzare.

Thanks for any ideas.

Marty

On 5/13/2021 2:35 PM, Greg Daniel wrote:
Marty,

Do you have another email account so that you could use Thunderbird to
send an email message to your second email address in order to inspect the
time-stamp? I ask the question because I just used Thunderbird to send an
email message to my Gmail account in order to check the time-stamp; it was
correct. Although I have no answer for your dilemma yet, I am reaching
out.

Greg



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Time on email messages is wrong

Hello. I am using JAWS 21 with Windows 10 and Thunderbird. I have just
noticed that the times on my email messages is off by 1 hour. My
computer clock is correct, but my emails show a time of 1 hour earlier.
I can't seem to find anything in Thunderbird to change this. I have
tried closing and reopening Thunderbird and restarting my computer, but
no joy. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

The Gospel is fully accessible to all.


















moderated Re: Time on email messages is wrong

Glenn / Lenny
 

Actually it does get the time from the host computer.
I had just forgotten that usually after I've rebooted into windows from
having previously been booted into Linux, my windows time is wrong, and
sometimes I forget to change it back until someone eMails me and asks me
which country I'm in.
So the OS changes the BIOS clock, and when windows reboots, in my case, the
clock is wrong, and then my eMails have the wrong time stamp.
But this only addresses Brian's message, as Marty's computer apparently has
the right time, but the eMail's time is wrong.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Time on email messages is wrong


Marty,
I always assumed that the eMail program got the time from the host computer,
but possibly it is getting it from your router.
If so, maybe your router time is wrong.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Time on email messages is wrong


Greg, I have just sent an email from this account to my other account
and it appeared with the time stamp of 1 hour earlier. This is buzzare.

Thanks for any ideas.

Marty

On 5/13/2021 2:35 PM, Greg Daniel wrote:
Marty,

Do you have another email account so that you could use Thunderbird to
send an email message to your second email address in order to inspect the
time-stamp? I ask the question because I just used Thunderbird to send an
email message to my Gmail account in order to check the time-stamp; it was
correct. Although I have no answer for your dilemma yet, I am reaching
out.

Greg



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Time on email messages is wrong

Hello. I am using JAWS 21 with Windows 10 and Thunderbird. I have just
noticed that the times on my email messages is off by 1 hour. My
computer clock is correct, but my emails show a time of 1 hour earlier.
I can't seem to find anything in Thunderbird to change this. I have
tried closing and reopening Thunderbird and restarting my computer, but
no joy. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

The Gospel is fully accessible to all.












moderated Re: Time on email messages is wrong

 

The email server is what most often determines the date-time stamp on an outgoing message in particular, not the local machine time.  It's not uncommon for email servers to be outside one's own time zone.  Check to see where yours is located.

When there are time discrepancies of precisely some hour interval that's where I'd look first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Time on email messages is wrong

Glenn / Lenny
 

Marty,
I always assumed that the eMail program got the time from the host computer,
but possibly it is getting it from your router.
If so, maybe your router time is wrong.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Time on email messages is wrong


Greg, I have just sent an email from this account to my other account
and it appeared with the time stamp of 1 hour earlier. This is buzzare.

Thanks for any ideas.

Marty

On 5/13/2021 2:35 PM, Greg Daniel wrote:
Marty,

Do you have another email account so that you could use Thunderbird to
send an email message to your second email address in order to inspect the
time-stamp? I ask the question because I just used Thunderbird to send an
email message to my Gmail account in order to check the time-stamp; it was
correct. Although I have no answer for your dilemma yet, I am reaching
out.

Greg



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Time on email messages is wrong

Hello. I am using JAWS 21 with Windows 10 and Thunderbird. I have just
noticed that the times on my email messages is off by 1 hour. My
computer clock is correct, but my emails show a time of 1 hour earlier.
I can't seem to find anything in Thunderbird to change this. I have
tried closing and reopening Thunderbird and restarting my computer, but
no joy. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

The Gospel is fully accessible to all.












moderated Re: Time on email messages is wrong

Marty Hutchings
 

Greg,  I have just sent an email from this account to my other account and it appeared with the time stamp of 1 hour earlier. This is buzzare.

Thanks for any ideas.

Marty

On 5/13/2021 2:35 PM, Greg Daniel wrote:
Marty,

Do you have another email account so that you could use Thunderbird to send an email message to your second email address in order to inspect the time-stamp? I ask the question because I just used Thunderbird to send an email message to my Gmail account in order to check the time-stamp; it was correct. Although I have no answer for your dilemma yet, I am reaching out.

Greg



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Time on email messages is wrong

Hello. I am using JAWS 21 with Windows 10 and Thunderbird. I have just
noticed that the times on my email messages is off by 1 hour. My
computer clock is correct, but my emails show a time of 1 hour earlier.
I can't seem to find anything in Thunderbird to change this. I have
tried closing and reopening Thunderbird and restarting my computer, but
no joy. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

The Gospel is fully accessible to all.











moderated Re: BIOS

Glenn / Lenny
 

I don't know about that, I have worked with people who don't know what to
read, and don't know about different pages or windows, and if one has never
been inside that computer's BIOS before, you don't know what the headings
are and how things are worded.
Now if someone is familiar with the BIOS on a particular computer, then it
should be pretty easy to guide a non-computer user around.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: BIOS


I am used to providing the competence personally. As long as someone
can recognize selected text that is usually enough.


On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve found from bitter experience that the competence of the local
sightling is a relevant consideration …

At least there's a certain level of competence with the Microsoft
solution.

Obvious a tech savvy local person is optimal.

Cheers,

Ed


On 13 May 2021 21:40:22 "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:

Even better if you can enlist the aid of a local seeing-eye human.
Thankfully needing to go into the BIOS settings has become a much
rarer thing than in the past.

On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My
Eyes,

and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate
it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer
rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to
help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen
because
they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed


On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@denningweb.com>
wrote:

Sadly, I can't use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone
explain
how they interact with it without a screen reader?










--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: BIOS

Soronel Haetir
 

I am used to providing the competence personally. As long as someone
can recognize selected text that is usually enough.

On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve found from bitter experience that the competence of the local
sightling is a relevant consideration …

At least there's a certain level of competence with the Microsoft solution.

Obvious a tech savvy local person is optimal.

Cheers,

Ed


On 13 May 2021 21:40:22 "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:

Even better if you can enlist the aid of a local seeing-eye human.
Thankfully needing to go into the BIOS settings has become a much
rarer thing than in the past.

On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My
Eyes,

and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate
it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer
rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to
help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen
because
they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed


On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@denningweb.com>
wrote:

Sadly, I can't use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone
explain
how they interact with it without a screen reader?










--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com








--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: BIOS

 

It would help to know the exact model of Acer being discussed.  There are so many (as there are for any maker) and what's available is directly dependent on the model itself.

The support pages at Acer.com appear to have come back online again.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: BIOS

 

Hi,

Also, some manufacturers do let you customize function key behavior through their app and/or a key combination (Dynabook (formerly Toshiba) and Lenovo are two OEM’s, known for letting you do one or both of these).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: BIOS

 

On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 05:08 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:

Sadly, every time there is a Windows update my Acer computer reverts back to the function keys the way they were originally and I have to go into the bios to fix it.

-
You need to contact Acer about this, as the only way this could happen is if they've given a BIOS update to Microsoft, to be applied via UEFI as part of a Windows Update, that is somehow not registering as being already done.

You could also try, at least temporarily, Preventing Windows Update from Updating Device Drivers

It's also very likely that Acer has a "service station" type driver and firmware update monitoring program, and if it does I'd install it and let it take care of BIOS updates.  I just tried finding it at the Acer support site but the site itself seems to be having issues at the moment.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: BIOS

 

On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 05:08 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
Sadly, every time there is a Windows update my Acer computer reverts back to the function keys the way they were originally and I have to go into the bios to fix it.
-
You need to contact Acer about this, as the only way this could happen is if they've given a BIOS update to Microsoft, to be applied via UEFI as part of a Windows Update, that is somehow not registering as being already done.

You could also try, at least temporarily, Preventing Windows Update from Updating Device Drivers

It's also very likely that Acer has a "service station" type driver and firmware update monitoring program, and if it does I'd install it and let it take care of BIOS updates.  I just tried finding it at the Acer support site but the site itself seems to be having issues at the moment.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: BIOS

Marianne Denning
 

I thought somebody might have figured out a way to walk by faith. Thank you for your help. Sadly, every time there is a Windows update my Acer computer reverts back to the function keys the way they were originally and I have to go into the bios to fix it. This is happening to me about once a week at this time. It is getting ridiculous and I am extremely frustrated. I have used my husband and I also use a IRA.


On May 13, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:



Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My Eyes, and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen because they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@...> wrote:

Sadly, I can’t use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone explain how they interact with it without a screen reader?


moderated Re: BIOS

Glenn / Lenny
 


True, from using Be My Eyes, as the keyboard commands for getting around in the BIOS vary from computer to computer, and are listed at the bottom of the screen, people who have never gone into the BIOS before usually have no idea of where to look for things, like where to find drives or periphiels.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: BIOS

I’ve found from bitter experience that the competence of the local sightling is a relevant consideration …

At least there's a certain level of competence with the Microsoft solution.

Obvious a tech savvy local person is optimal.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2021 21:40:22 "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:

Even better if you can enlist the aid of a local seeing-eye human.
Thankfully needing to go into the BIOS settings has become a much
rarer thing than in the past.

On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:

Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My Eyes,

and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer
rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to
help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen because
they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@...> wrote:

Sadly, I can't use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone
explain
how they interact with it without a screen reader?








--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...



moderated Re: BIOS

Edward Green
 

I’ve found from bitter experience that the competence of the local sightling is a relevant consideration …

At least there's a certain level of competence with the Microsoft solution.

Obvious a tech savvy local person is optimal.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2021 21:40:22 "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:

Even better if you can enlist the aid of a local seeing-eye human.
Thankfully needing to go into the BIOS settings has become a much
rarer thing than in the past.

On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:

Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My Eyes,

and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer
rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to
help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen because
they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@...> wrote:

Sadly, I can't use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone
explain
how they interact with it without a screen reader?








--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...



moderated Re: BIOS

Soronel Haetir
 

Even better if you can enlist the aid of a local seeing-eye human.
Thankfully needing to go into the BIOS settings has become a much
rarer thing than in the past.

On 5/13/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My Eyes,

and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer
rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to
help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen because
they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed


On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:

Sadly, I can't use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone
explain
how they interact with it without a screen reader?









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: Time on email messages is wrong

Greg Daniel
 

Marty,

Do you have another email account so that you could use Thunderbird to send an email message to your second email address in order to inspect the time-stamp? I ask the question because I just used Thunderbird to send an email message to my Gmail account in order to check the time-stamp; it was correct. Although I have no answer for your dilemma yet, I am reaching out.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Time on email messages is wrong

Hello. I am using JAWS 21 with Windows 10 and Thunderbird. I have just
noticed that the times on my email messages is off by 1 hour. My
computer clock is correct, but my emails show a time of 1 hour earlier.
I can't seem to find anything in Thunderbird to change this. I have
tried closing and reopening Thunderbird and restarting my computer, but
no joy. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

The Gospel is fully accessible to all.


moderated Re: BIOS

Edward Green
 

Hi Marianne,

I use my smartphone to call Microsoft Disability Answer Desk by Be My Eyes, and point my phone at the computer screen while they help me manipulate it.

Strictly speaking the bios is the domain of the computer manufacturer rather than Microsoft, but I haven’t had an Answer Desk agent refuse to help.

It goes without saying that I have to point my phone at the screen because they can’t remote on and access the bios.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2021 21:31:07 "Marianne Denning" <marianne@...> wrote:

Sadly, I can’t use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone explain how they interact with it without a screen reader?


moderated BIOS

Marianne Denning
 

Sadly, I can’t use JAWS when I need to go into the BIOS. Can someone explain how they interact with it without a screen reader?


moderated Time on email messages is wrong

Marty Hutchings
 

Hello.  I am using JAWS 21 with Windows 10 and Thunderbird.  I have just noticed that the times on my email messages is off by 1 hour.  My computer clock is correct, but my emails show a time of 1 hour earlier.  I can't seem to find anything in Thunderbird to change this.  I have tried closing and reopening Thunderbird and restarting my computer, but no joy.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

The Gospel is fully accessible to all.


moderated Re: Notification from jaws that there's a problem with an external drive

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

I had that happen with a flash drive. Usually I just scan it and everything goes smoothly.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notification from jaws that there's a problem with an external drive

 

Hi Bill,

Normally this window should be in the foreground, and it can be alt tabbed to if it is not in the foreground.

Also, Windows is not detecting a problem, it only knows that that particular drive was not ejected the last time it was removed, it is just a canned message from Windows.

It's okay to escape out of the window without scanning.

I have tried the scan multiple times, and it never finds a problem.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:33 AM

Subject: Re: Notification from jaws that there's a problem with an external drive

 

Hi, John. Here's how I get to the place where I can scan and fix the external drive,

 

1. Plug in the drive.

2. Go to Windows Explorer with WINDOWS key plus E.

3. Find the drive letter that has the problem, but do not press ENTER on the drive letter.

4. Press ALT plus ENTER to open Properties.

5. Press CONTROL plus TAB to navigate to the Tools Tab.

6. TAB to the Error Checking, Check button, and press ENTER.

7. Press ENTER on the Scan and Repair Drive button.

8. Once the drive is scanned and repaired, press ENTER on the Close button. That's it.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 3:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Notification from jaws that there's a problem with an external drive

 

Good morning: I’m using Jaws with Windows 10, when I plug in a flash drive I get a message that "there's a problem with this drive, Scan the drive and fix it." However, I can't get to the place where I can fix it. How can I get to "scan and fix it?"

Thanks.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 03:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Stopping JAWS from reading flashing clock

 

Hi Craig,

 

Does this Simian software have it's own clock?  It sounds like Jaws is capturing another clock since it only does this with the Simian software.  If you open the Settings Center with the Simian software running maybe you can suppress the time announcement by turning off progress bar updates or something.

 

You could also try switching your speech and sound scheme for this software with the, Insert, Alt + S, keystroke.  Invoke this keystroke with the Simian software running to open your list of speech and sound schemes and try them 1 by 1 to see which might work best for this situation.  The speech and sound schemes can be modified as well.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2021 10:57 AM

Subject: Stopping JAWS from reading flashing clock

 

Greetings,
I am using JAWS 2019 with Windows 7.  I do some work for a local radio
station, using their Simian broadcast software.  JAWS continuously
reads the updated time on the flashing clock, updating every second,
which prevents me from being able to read the log.  I have tried
cycling through the read modes with insert S.  However, even in
highlighted only mode, it continues to read the updating time, even
though the current song is the only highlighted text.
Any ideas for getting JAWS to stop announcing the updating time?
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Craig Cooper



moderated Re: Multi select list box not allowing multiple selections

James Benstead
 

Apologies for wasting your time -- I had no idea this was an IE issue. I do now. The guy I'm helping is a doctor, and he's forced to use IE as part of his job. I'd never encountered this weird bug before, and as I assumed that this kind of control was common across all areas of Windows I didn't think it was IE specific.

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On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 16:12, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

And if it had been clear from the start that this was an issue in IE I would have either skipped/deleted the message or replied suggesting to get on with life and download a Chromium based browser such as Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge or Brave. One very nice feature in Edge is the Imersive Reader which in other browsers is not present unless you try one of a number of different extensions, but Brave also has it's benefits in that it is probably the browser which does the least tracking and has built-in ad filtering. As others already pointed out, IE is pretty much dead and unless you have a very specific reason to use it for a website which is in itself behind the times there is no good reason to still use it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Benstead
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Multi select list box not allowing multiple selections

 

Thank you! I tested it on another Win10 machine running IE11 and it didn't work, but it worked fine on that machine in Chrome. It's an issue with IE11 specifically, not JAWS, as I tried the same functionality without JAWS running and that didn't work either.

 

More generally, while IE is ending its natural life I think a number of institutions will be retaining it for quite some time. We had a similar thing with IE6, which I was finding on all sorts of Windows machines (in the UK military and health service, for example) years after Microsoft had abandoned it.

 

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On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 10:54, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

I don't think you can do what you want using internet explorer, or
other browsers for that matter.  Maybe try edge or Chrome and see if
it works in one of those.  IE is about dead, I think it goes away in a
couple of months.

On Thu, 13 May 2021 04:06:04 -0400,
James Benstead wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> I can't see where I've talked about files in a folder -- I've checked the
> posts I made and as far as I can tell I've been referring to "items in a
> list" throughout. Either way, that's what I'm having problems with: items
> in a multi-select list box, in Internet Explorer.
>
> --
> Too brief? Here's why! http://emailcharter.org
>
>
> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:28, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
>
> > I am a bit confused now, you mentioned Internet Explorer and not Edge so
> > are you trying to select something on a website or are you talking about
> > files in a folder? If so then this has nothing to do with either IE or Edge.
> >
> > If you are talking about files then all I can say is to make sure you are
> > using either the Detailed View or List View, in Windows 10 you can press
> > Control + Shift + 6 on the number row when you are in a folder to select
> > the Details view and Control + Shift + 5 on the number row to select just a
> > file list without file size, date etc.
> >
> >
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> > *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *James
> > Benstead
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2021 1:12 PM
> > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> > *Subject:* Re: Multi select list box not allowing multiple selections
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks. This usually works for me, but for some reason it isn’t working on
> > this installation of JAWS. When I hold control and press down nothing
> > happens.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > On 12 May 2021, 19:26 +0100, Mario <mrb620@...>, wrote:
> >
> > for example, if you wanted to select file number 1 and 3 to copy them to
> > another folder, you'd navigate to file #1, press and hold the control
> > key down, arrow down to file #3, and press the spacebar. then release
> > the control key and press control+c to copy them to the clipboard.
> > navigate to the folder where you want the files to be duplicated and
> > presss control+v.
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > From: James Benstead [mailto:james.benstead@...]
> > Subject: Multi select list box not allowing multiple selections
> > Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 1:52 PM
> > To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
> > Apologies, this is in Internet Explorer (yes, Internet Explorer and not
> > Edge; this PC still runs IE).
> >
> > I’m expecting things to work as you describe. Using shift to select
> > adjacent items works fine. Using control and space to select
> > non-adjacent items doesn’t work.
> > On 12 May 2021, 18:31 +0100, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>, wrote:
> >
> > Can you be more specific? Is this in File Explorer? Just as an
> > example, in File Explorer if you want to select three files which are
> > one underneath another you hold the shift key and press down arrow
> > until they are selected. However, if you want to select file 1 and 3,
> > you go to the first file, then hold the control key and arrow down
> > twice to the third file, then you can either let go of control and
> > press spacebar to select file 3 or you can continue holding the
> > control key and press space. If all you want to do is to select two
> > files you can let go and press spacebar, if you plan to select more
> > files after selecting the second file you may as well continue holding
> > it, but deven if you do let go and select file 2 by pressing the
> > spacebar, you can always hold control again and arrow to more files to
> > select them, the first two files will remain selected. The point is
> > that unlike when holding shift and arrowing which also selects the
> > files, with control you typically have to press the spacebar to select
> > the files after you get there.
> >
> > *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of* James
> > Benstead
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:24 AM
> > *To:* jfw@groups.io
> > *Subject:* Multi select list box not allowing multiple selections
> >
> > I'm having problems with an installation of JAWS 2020 that doesn't
> > seem to be managing multi select list boxes properly. It lets me
> > select multiple items by using shift and the arrow keys, but if I try
> > to do the same by using control it doesn't work: when I hold down
> > control and then press the arrow keys nothing happens. I've tried the
> > numpad arrow keys and the regular arrow keys.
> >
> > Any ideas what's going on here?
> >
> > Jim
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