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moderated Hello

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Hello,

I’m back.

I unsubscribed just a few minutes ago by mistake.

 

I’m here to stay.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Unsubscribed By Mistake

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Hello,

I unsubscribed by mistake.

I thought it was another jaws group that I wanted to unsubscribe t.

Can you re approve me as I was approved this morning.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

 

Pastor Gilo


moderated Google Classroom for student

Jordana
 

Hi list,

I have not found a keyboard command to send back a homework to a teacher. If anyone knows a list of keyboard commands for Classroom or have any resources. As a teacher could send back homework to student with control plus alt plus  R.

Thanks for any help,

 


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

David Diamond
 

Checking on Amazon the price in CAD is $110-160


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

Tony
 

Several on this list use the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.

 

It weighs a couple of pounds but has everything you are asking for.  It also has 6 programable keys down the left.  They come programmed as f1 – f6 and require sight to change them.

 

Standard numpad, 6-pack and arrow keys with space between the groups

 

The two AA alkaline batteries are still strong after more than a year.  My hands are starting to have problems and I find I can type faster and more accurately on this keyboard than on a standard membrain keyboard.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Resnick
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 


moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Morey Worthington
 

Thanks all for suggestions and input. Gave me some choices and hopeing one of them fits me just fine.

Thanks again.

Morey

On 6/2/2020 8:09 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I use and really like Excel, but a quick web search found this page of things you could try.

https://www.lifewire.com/free-spreadsheet-programs-1356337



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any other suggestions?

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version.  I have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past the first page???

Thanks

Morey Worthington






moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

Logitech does make the G613 Lightspeed mechanical wireless gaming keyboard, it is truly full-size with Windows keys on both sides as well as an application key, numeric pad and the 6-pack as well as volume control and media keys.

It can connect to 1 device via VBluetooth and also comes with a USB dongle. It’s heavy and big, but a pretty decent keyboard.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

Have you looked at the Logitech MK520 Wireless keyboard? I have 3 of these and am using Win 10 and Win 7, Jaws 2020, Kurzweil 1000 and MS Edge and IE 11. The keyboard works well and uses alkaline batteries.  Tom

 

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:37 AM

Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 


moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Chris Hill
 

Open office is pretty much a dead letter.  Try libre office.

On 6/2/2020 06:45, Morey Worthington wrote:
Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any other suggestions?

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version.  I have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past the first page???

Thanks

Morey Worthington



moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Glenn / Lenny
 

I like Libra Office.
https://www.libreoffice.org/
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morey Worthington" <worthington@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:45 AM
Subject: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program


Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to
download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it
to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any
other suggestions?

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it
off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it
wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version. I
have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past
the first page???

Thanks

Morey Worthington


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

T. Civitello
 

Have you looked at the Logitech MK520 Wireless keyboard? I have 3 of these and am using Win 10 and Win 7, Jaws 2020, Kurzweil 1000 and MS Edge and IE 11. The keyboard works well and uses alkaline batteries.  Tom
 

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard
 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 


moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 07:45 AM, Morey Worthington wrote:
I cannot afford new Office Version.
I didn't want Office 365 and still don't.  There exists a thriving, and entirely legal, grey market for software licenses that came about secondary to legal rulings in the EU.  Every license for Office 2016 I have (and I have 4 of my own, and 1 that was purchased for a friend's machine) were obtained via the grey market via eBay.  I believe that even Office 2019 licenses are appearing on the grey market now, though Office 2016 has a number of years of support still ahead of it.

On the Grey Market  (PDF on Google Drive), if you want to read more detailed information I've written on this topic.

As far as free alternatives, Open Office has become far more "rickety" than Libre Office.  The thing I recommend most often, but have not done any accessibility testing with, is SoftMaker Free Office.  The look and feel of the user interface, at least for those of us who can see, is as close to MS-Office as I've ever encountered, and far closer than Libre Office or Open Office ever have been.  It is perfectly capable of handling all of the standard MS-Office file formats and has the very nice feature of allowing you to set it such that it uses those by default when saving files itself.  It's up to someone here to play with it to determine accessibility, or the lack thereof.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

Robert Resnick
 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 

My old logitechI believe was a K320. I checked out the K780 but am looking for standard layout for the six pack and arrow keys. The K800 seems to fit most criteria as far as I can tell except it is rechargeable and does not accept replaceable alkaline batteries. Frequent charging is not ideal especially when alkaline batteries often last 2 years or more. Amazingly, it does not appear that Logitech makes a truly standard full-size keyboard with num pad that accepts batteries. Was hoping someone knew of another brand/model that they liked.

 


moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

 

Hi Morey,

 

I assume you are in the US? Can you afford $69.99 a year or $6.99 a month? If you can you could subscribe to Microsoft 365 Personal, formerly known as Office 365 Personal. This allows you to download the full Office suite to your computer including Excel, Word, Outlook, Power Point etc. In addition you also get 1 Tb of OneDrive cloud storage. You can buy this from the Microsoft Store at the following link:

 

Buy Microsoft 365 Personal- Microsoft Store

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

 

Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any other suggestions?

 

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

 

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version.  I have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past the first page???

 

Thanks

 

Morey Worthington

 

 

 


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

Robert Resnick
 

I use  Sennheiser RS120 radio frequency (RF) headphones.  They have enormous range and have worked well for years.  Unfortunately, they have no microphone, so are only useful for listening.  


moderated Re: Jaws And OCR

Loy
 

Thanks Mike for this. I did not know this was a feature of the JAWS OCR. I tried it and is much easier than using Abby Fine Reader program. There is still a lot I don't know about JAWS.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

Hi Pastor Gil,
 
Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.
 
How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM
Subject: Jaws And Open Book

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Mike B
 


So, when you invoke the, Insert + spacebar, then press the letter, O , then pressing the letter, A , your HP scanner isn't in the scanner and camera list?  What does show in the list of options?  Have you tried using left & right arrow keys as well as the up and down arrow keys?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

Mike,  Thanks for this.  I was not aware that this was possible.  When I tried to acquire a document, I got a message saying that there were no scanners or cameras available.  I have a HP Photo Smart all in 1 printer/scanner connected.  How do I get JAWS to recognize it?
Thanks.
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book
 
Hi Pastor Gil,
 
Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.
 
How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM
Subject: Jaws And Open Book
 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Richard Turner
 

I use and really like Excel, but a quick web search found this page of things you could try.

https://www.lifewire.com/free-spreadsheet-programs-1356337



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any other suggestions?

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version.  I have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past the first page???

Thanks

Morey Worthington


moderated Jaws And Openbook

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

I’’ve tried the jaws ocr and the Openbook methods of scanning.

I found Openbook to be faster and so I like it better.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Morey Worthington
 

Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any other suggestions?

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version.  I have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past the first page???

Thanks

Morey Worthington


moderated Re: RSS Reader

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Thank you David for explaining it.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: RSS Reader

 

I am coming late to this thread but for me personally I have used the free Webbie based Accessible RSS Reader for years available from I think from memory the Accessible Suite of applications at www.webbie.org.uk.

It has none of the bells and whistles of some modern RSS Readers regarding device synching but I still love its simplicity and ease of use with Jaws and NVDA.

Auto refresh of Feeds was also turned off years ago to increase its stability but this is also not a problem as manual refresh is built into loading the feed articles. S .

The application has 2 columns.

You cursor down your list of RSS Feeds in one column.

Press control R on any Feed and this will, as well as quickly refreshing the feed instantly jump you into the list of available articles from that feed in the adjacent column.

Cursor down and on each article you will hear an automatic preview of the first few lines of each article which will indicate whether you want to hear the whole article.

Press enter to load the web page referred to in that feed in your browser for the full article.

Close the web page to return to the RSS Reader.

Press escape in RSS Reader to return from the Article list to the main RSS Feed list.

Then you simply start over.

Cursor down to your next feed or use first letter navigation to find the feed you want.

On your next feed press Control R to Refresh and again jump into the next article list revealed and start anew in article reading.

Very simple to use and I would be lost without it.

David Griffith

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: 02 June 2020 08:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: RSS Reader

 

Never heard of it.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: RSS Reader

 

Need to register to use? Is it a software base or web base?

 

 

From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 9:48 PM

Subject: Re: RSS Reader

 

The Old Reader works fine for my news aggregation needs.  www.theoldreader.com.  Premium sub at $3 a month the best option.

On 6/1/2020 12:03 AM, Cornelius wrote:

Hi all,

are there any RSS reader that works well with JAWS and support show article as full webpage?

I use to use Windows Live Mail RSS, but looking for alternative as Live Mail is an old program which may stop working in years to come.

I have also tried Thunderbird RSS, but it doesn’t seem to work on all RSS feeds. Outlook RSS on the other hand, downloads full article as attachment which is something not preferable.