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moderated Re: Using hyphen

Don Walls
 

Richard and Bill, thanks for your comments.  We all learned something today! (Smile)
 
Don
 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using hyphen
 

It is saying “m dash” because a hyphen with a space on each side is an “M dash” WHICH MEANS THE SHORT DASH.

If it were a long dash, it would say “N dash.”

So, Jaws is accurately reporting the punctuation name.

A hyphen, in strict terms, is used to join two words together, so if you write hello-goodbye  with no spaces jaws, like most screen readers says “dash” when it really should say “hyphen”.

Dashes are used to separate words kind of like parenthesis.

A lot of authors seems to be using dashes in place of parenthesis, which irritates me, but what is one going to do.

That is why when you split a word with more than one syllable between lines you use a hyphen not a dash because the hyphen denotes that the word is supposed to be joined.

But screen readers are not grammar teachers.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using hyphen

 

Is it perhaps not saying “on” but the letter “nn (as in Norman).  If you type a hyphen with a space each side of it, that’s what it reads.

 

Don

 

From: kevin meyers

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Using hyphen

 

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.

Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying on. I then delete it and it then says dash.

Here is an example:

Hello – goodbye

Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?

Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the hyphen and type it back in.

Hello - goodbye!

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using hyphen

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

By the way, the n dash is a dash which is longer than a simple hyphen. By unchecking this check box in the autoformat tab, the hyphen is no longer replaced by the longer dash. This is why it no longer says n dash.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using hyphen

 

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.

Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying on. I then delete it and it then says dash.

Here is an example:

Hello – goodbye

Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?

Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the hyphen and type it back in.

Hello - goodbye!

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using hyphen

Richard Turner
 

It is saying “m dash” because a hyphen with a space on each side is an “M dash” WHICH MEANS THE SHORT DASH.

If it were a long dash, it would say “N dash.”

So, Jaws is accurately reporting the punctuation name.

A hyphen, in strict terms, is used to join two words together, so if you write hello-goodbye  with no spaces jaws, like most screen readers says “dash” when it really should say “hyphen”.

Dashes are used to separate words kind of like parenthesis.

A lot of authors seems to be using dashes in place of parenthesis, which irritates me, but what is one going to do.

That is why when you split a word with more than one syllable between lines you use a hyphen not a dash because the hyphen denotes that the word is supposed to be joined.

But screen readers are not grammar teachers.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using hyphen

 

Is it perhaps not saying “on” but the letter “nn (as in Norman).  If you type a hyphen with a space each side of it, that’s what it reads.

 

Don

 

From: kevin meyers

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:20 AM

Subject: Using hyphen

 

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.

Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying on. I then delete it and it then says dash.

Here is an example:

Hello – goodbye

Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?

Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the hyphen and type it back in.

Hello - goodbye!

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using hyphen

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Kevin and Don. To stop this behavior in Outlook and Office,

 

1. Open the Outlook Options dialog box.

2. click File > Options.

3. click the Mail in the left bar, and then click the Spelling and Autocorrect button in the Compose messages section.

4. In the Editor Options dialog box, click the Proofing in the left bar, and then click the AutoCorrect Options button in the AutoCorrect options section.

5. In the AutoCorrect dialog box, go to the AutoFormat As You Type tab, and uncheck the Hyphens (--) with dash (—) check box, And then click the OK button.

6. Click the OK buttons to close all dialog boxes to finish saving the settings. From now on, the hyphen will be spoken as dash instead of n dash.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using hyphen

 

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.

Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying on. I then delete it and it then says dash.

Here is an example:

Hello – goodbye

Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?

Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the hyphen and type it back in.

Hello - goodbye!

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using hyphen

Don Walls
 

Is it perhaps not saying “on” but the letter “nn (as in Norman).  If you type a hyphen with a space each side of it, that’s what it reads.
 
Don
 

From: kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using hyphen
 

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.

Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying on. I then delete it and it then says dash.

Here is an example:

Hello – goodbye

Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?

Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the hyphen and type it back in.

Hello - goodbye!

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Using hyphen

kevin meyers
 

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.

Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying on. I then delete it and it then says dash.

Here is an example:

Hello – goodbye

Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?

Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the hyphen and type it back in.

Hello - goodbye!

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: jaws and outlook problem

Richard Turner
 

But, you have braille everywhere else?

 

If so, try turning off the preview pane.

I assume you have maximized the screen?

And/or rebooted?

Which versions of the software are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gery Gaubert
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:46 AM
To: JFW@GROUPS.IO
Subject: jaws and outlook problem

 

I don’t have any braille on my display when in outlook.  No preview, no info when I try to read messages.  I had thiws a while back and It had something to do with I think insert f or something.  I saved the message on my work computer and thought I had forwarded it to my home email address.  I no longer have access to my work computer since I have retired.  Does anyone remember this being on the list a month or so ago?


moderated jaws and outlook problem

Gery Gaubert
 

I don’t have any braille on my display when in outlook.  No preview, no info when I try to read messages.  I had thiws a while back and It had something to do with I think insert f or something.  I saved the message on my work computer and thought I had forwarded it to my home email address.  I no longer have access to my work computer since I have retired.  Does anyone remember this being on the list a month or so ago?


moderated Re: Request email id for contacting Vispero

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Well, it is very hard to tell from the original notes, but if this application is not providing any data to JAWS in standard mode or with touch cursor (press shift-numpad plus) or JAWS cursor. then scripts from Freedom Scientific will not do much good. Unless there are millions of users of this tool, or  if the developer pays for the development of scripts.  Developing scripts for a new complex application can take 100's hours, one essentially has to reverse engineer the way the application talks to Windows and then create new interactions. Not to mention, if the application does not work well with a screen reader than it probably does not work well with other access technologies.
** More details below if interested **   
JAWS uses Microsoft Accessibility API like MSAA and UIA to interpret what the application puts on the screen. If the development environment used by the developer does not support or poorly supports these protocols, or if the vendor creates their own widgets without providing support for these API, or if the program locks out accessibility programs from communicating with it then there is little to nothing that a AT vendor can do.
JAWS scripts are great for making lists that can be seen with API, but are not navigated intuitively be able to be navigated with arrow keys, or with adding ways to jump to a part of the user interface, but if the vendor is expecting that JAWS will talk to the program with a "com" interface and have its own proprietary way of user interface specifically designed for the blind, that would be hard to develop and harder to maintain.


moderated Re: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hi Joseph,

Yes, I meant Linux and Jaws. Apparently Serionmy iphone could not translate what I said.

Thanks,

Jeff

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

 

Hi,

Are you talking about Linux? If so, JAWS cannot run on Linux without fundamental alterations. If you are solely interested in command-line tools, Windows Subsystem for Linux 9WSL is the way to go.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

 

Hello list, I have been exploring some programming languages and website design. I purchased a couple packages through gadget hacks I recommend that so Harley for very technical skills and very inexpensive prices. My question is do any of you on this list use jaws and Lennox together how accessible is that set up any chips recommend recommendations or suggestions just in the exploration stage thank you Jeff

Thanks,Jeff Lukacsena


moderated Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Zel Iscel
 

Hi Bill and all,

This is a problem that I also have.

I don't have game bar switched on. Sometimes I'll be typing away and when I hit the letter 'g' I'll end up somewhere else - maybe in Outlook, maybe on the internet - could be anywhere except the game bar.

I restart Jaws and the problem goes away ... until next time.

I thought it was an oddity in my Jaws software.

Cheers
Zel


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Zel Iscel
Disability Specialist
Inclusive World
Mobile: 0413813885
Email: zel@inclusiveworld.com.au

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2021 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Hi, Turab and Mike. Here is what I also found on Google.

As per the information, it seems that you might have pressed on Windows key + G to open Game bar. I suggest that you use the follow the steps below and check if it helps

To Turn Off Game Bar in Xbox app
1. Open the Xbox app.
2. Click/tap on the Settings icon on the left, click/tap on Game DVR at the top, and turn off the Record game clips and screenshots using Game DVR setting at the top.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Thankyou guys
Bill I didn't find Gaming. I have turned off Game Mode and Xbox Game bar, but the problem persists.
Pamila and David, this happens quite frequently and hence rebooting or restarting JAWS would not be a convenient option.
Look forward to other views.
Best
Turab

On 1/27/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Turab. Under Settings>Gaming, try also turning off the Game Bar,
which is the first category of settings under Gaming.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
turab chimthanawala
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:37 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Hi all,
I am unable to type the letter 'g' while using JAWS 2021. I have to
press windows + g. Only then the problem gets resolved. I have used
default mode in JAWS and also turned off Game mode as per Freedom
Scientific help desk's suggestions to no avail.
Humbly request solutions as this is quite irritating.
Thankyou
Best
Turab














moderated Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Turab and Mike. Here is what I also found on Google.

As per the information, it seems that you might have pressed on Windows key + G to open Game bar. I suggest that you use the follow the steps below and check if it helps

To Turn Off Game Bar in Xbox app
1. Open the Xbox app.
2. Click/tap on the Settings icon on the left, click/tap on Game DVR at the top, and turn off the Record game clips and screenshots using Game DVR setting at the top.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Thankyou guys
Bill I didn't find Gaming. I have turned off Game Mode and Xbox Game
bar, but the problem persists.
Pamila and David, this happens quite frequently and hence rebooting or
restarting JAWS would not be a convenient option.
Look forward to other views.
Best
Turab

On 1/27/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Turab. Under Settings>Gaming, try also turning off the Game Bar, which
is the first category of settings under Gaming.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab
chimthanawala
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:37 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Hi all,
I am unable to type the letter 'g' while using JAWS 2021. I have to
press windows + g. Only then the problem gets resolved. I have used
default mode in JAWS and also turned off Game mode as per Freedom
Scientific help desk's suggestions to no avail.
Humbly request solutions as this is quite irritating.
Thankyou
Best
Turab














moderated Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Mike B.
 


Hi,
 
Try the suggestions from the link below to see if they'll solve your, g key, issue.
 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Thankyou guys
Bill I didn't find Gaming. I have turned off Game Mode and Xbox Game
bar, but the problem persists.
Pamila and David, this happens quite frequently and hence rebooting or
restarting JAWS would not be a convenient option.
Look forward to other views.
Best
Turab

On 1/27/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
> Hi, Turab. Under Settings>Gaming, try also turning off the Game Bar, which
> is the first category of settings under Gaming.
>
> Bill White
> billwhite92701@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab
> chimthanawala
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:37 AM
> To: jfw
> Subject: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS
>
> Hi all,
> I am unable to type the letter 'g' while using JAWS 2021. I have to
> press windows + g. Only then the problem gets resolved. I have used
> default mode in JAWS and also turned off Game mode as per Freedom
> Scientific help desk's suggestions to no avail.
> Humbly request solutions as this is quite irritating.
> Thankyou
> Best
> Turab
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





moderated Re: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

turab chimthanawala
 

Thankyou guys
Bill I didn't find Gaming. I have turned off Game Mode and Xbox Game
bar, but the problem persists.
Pamila and David, this happens quite frequently and hence rebooting or
restarting JAWS would not be a convenient option.
Look forward to other views.
Best
Turab

On 1/27/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Turab. Under Settings>Gaming, try also turning off the Game Bar, which
is the first category of settings under Gaming.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab
chimthanawala
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:37 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Letter G not appearing on the screen with JAWS

Hi all,
I am unable to type the letter 'g' while using JAWS 2021. I have to
press windows + g. Only then the problem gets resolved. I have used
default mode in JAWS and also turned off Game mode as per Freedom
Scientific help desk's suggestions to no avail.
Humbly request solutions as this is quite irritating.
Thankyou
Best
Turab














moderated Re: Question regarding yesterdays latest jaws update.

Mike B.
 

Hi Albert,
 
I've never had an annual subscription so I can't answer your question but, there's 1 way to find out if the latest update will install or not.  Click on the link below to download the latest installer and run it to see if this latest update will install or not.
 
32 & 64 bit download link:
 
https://jaws2021.vfo.digital/2021.2012.57.400/4AD070D7-B284-424D-97A4-85ACBB926A1E/J2021.2012.57.400-any.exe
 
What's new:
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2012.57 (January 19, 2021)
This update addresses a few key issues that were reported shortly after the January 2021 release.
To download the latest release, click on the link above
 
You must be logged on as an administrator to install this software.
list of 8 items
• A new feature was introduced earlier this month, designed to let a user change the volume of JAWS speaking or the system volume itself using a layered
keystroke: INSERT+SPACE, V followed by J for JAWS or S for System. Since this change, Eloquence users reported hearing Ticks when reading and typing, especially
around the letter O. We also had reports of the volume randomly changing when reading documents or web pages. These issues are now resolved.
•  Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR was not starting the Voice Assistant in JAWS or Fusion.
• The JAWS voice commands to speak faster or slower now adjusts the speech in larger increments.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading table headings in Excel.
• Added a new JAWS Dictionary entry for "DocuSign."
• When spell checking a document in Word, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected when navigating by word through the text containing
the error.
• Resolved an issue where attachments were not being reported correctly in the Danish version of Outlook 2019.
• In the Italian version of JAWS, addressed an issue where the keystrokes to access the Braille and Text Viewer layer, as well as the Volume layer, were
not working as expected.
list end
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:48 AM
Subject: Question regarding yesterdays latest jaws update.

Good morning everyone, 

 

I would like too ask the following  question as it relates to the latest Jaws update that someone posted yesterday.  Whenever I go to the jaws updates,  It tells me that I have the latest version of jaws installed which came out in out sometime in mid December, that was jaws 2021. Here’s what I’m wondering.  Both me and my girlfriend are using the version of jaws, where we use the    version that is the lease too own one that we pay a subscription for  every year.  Does it make a differents whether or not     the latest updates for jaws if you own the full license of jaws,  or will the latest version    of jaws that came out yesterday, be installed without any problem. 


moderated Re: How to move quickly down the list of file extensions to change the default?

Mike B.
 


Here you go,
 
For Jaws users,I found that you can fast forward & reverse through the, File Types list, by turning Key Repeat on. 
1. To do this, after the file types list is loaded up open the Settings Center with, Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, and if you get a new configuration
message select the, Okay, option and press the spacebar. Arrow down to, User closed, and right arrow to open.
 
2. Down arrow to, Key Repeat not checked, and press the spacebar to check this.
 
3. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.  Now if you hold the Tab key down it will fast forward through this long list of file types and if you
use, Shift + tab, you can go backwards.
It's funny listening to Jaws fast forward through this long files type list because it sounds like fast forwarding a cassette tape.  LOL 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:13 PM
Subject: How to move quickly down the list of file extensions to change the default?

Hello List,

 

I’m going through System Settings and using:

   Choose default apps by file type

 

The long list of file extensions are arranged alphabetically. I can move only one extension at a time using the Tab key. These extensions are preceded with the “point” character.

 

Is there a way to jump quickly to the .M3U extension?

I’d like to change it’s default.

 

Thank You,

 

Peter T

 

 

 


moderated Re: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Jeff,
I switch between Windows and Linux.
I mostly use Jaws, but NVDA works better in SSH windows, but that may not be the case in windows 10 with its built-in SSH capability.
I use Ubuntu-Mate with the Orca screenreader, and you can get Voxin for about 10 dollars that is the IBM and makes Orca sound like Jaws.
I like running it in a virtual install of Linux so I can switch back and forth with key toggles.
I use VmWare player to run Linux inside Windows.
I recommend 8GB of RAM as a minimum as you will want to dedicate half your RAM to the Linux, although Linux is more forgiving to low RAM than Windows is.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 11:38 AM
Subject: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

Hello list, I have been exploring some programming languages and website design. I purchased a couple packages through gadget hacks I recommend that so Harley for very technical skills and very inexpensive prices. My question is do any of you on this list use jaws and Lennox together how accessible is that set up any chips recommend recommendations or suggestions just in the exploration stage thank you Jeff

Thanks,Jeff Lukacsena


moderated Re: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

 

Hi,

Are you talking about Linux? If so, JAWS cannot run on Linux without fundamental alterations. If you are solely interested in command-line tools, Windows Subsystem for Linux 9WSL is the way to go.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

 

Hello list, I have been exploring some programming languages and website design. I purchased a couple packages through gadget hacks I recommend that so Harley for very technical skills and very inexpensive prices. My question is do any of you on this list use jaws and Lennox together how accessible is that set up any chips recommend recommendations or suggestions just in the exploration stage thank you Jeff

Thanks,Jeff Lukacsena


moderated How to move quickly down the list of file extensions to change the default?

Peter Tesar
 

Hello List,

 

I’m going through System Settings and using:

   Choose default apps by file type

 

The long list of file extensions are arranged alphabetically. I can move only one extension at a time using the Tab key. These extensions are preceded with the “point” character.

 

Is there a way to jump quickly to the .M3U extension?

I’d like to change it’s default.

 

Thank You,

 

Peter T

 

 

 


moderated Question regarding Lennox and Giles users

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello list, I have been exploring some programming languages and website design. I purchased a couple packages through gadget hacks I recommend that so Harley for very technical skills and very inexpensive prices. My question is do any of you on this list use jaws and Lennox together how accessible is that set up any chips recommend recommendations or suggestions just in the exploration stage thank you Jeff

Thanks,Jeff Lukacsena

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