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Re: Failure when trying to download with firefox

 

Marv,

        I am going to beg you, again, to please stop splitting threads rather than replying on the one you've already started.  It makes it hellishly difficult to keep one topic/issue together and follow it.

        You said, in your original post, "I get a failure message," and then in the split thread identifying your use of Firefox 49.0.1, "no error messages being shown."  These are directly contradictory statements.  It's impossible to assist without clarity.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

 

Sieghard,

           I just tried the Firefox instructions with NVDA and you can use the search box at the top of the applications list to search for PDF.  I then Tab into the list, which is a single line item for PDF which has a combo box that I can reach by hitting Tab one more time.  You then drop down the combo box and you should eventually find entries for your default PDF reader program on your system in its "(in Firefox)" plug-in format plus its default format, which causes the PDF to be downloaded then immediately opened in that program. 

           The interactions between IE and Adobe Reader (several of the recent versions) are, oddly enough, controlled more through the Accessibility Setup Assistant than IE itself.  In Adobe Reader DC you can open this via the Edit Menu, Accessibility Item, Setup Assistant submenu.  In going through the Setup Assistant right now, on the last page (5 of 5 for Reader DC) there is a checkbox for "Display PDF Documents in the Web Browser" which, in my case is unchecked.  Go through the setup assistant and see if it's checked for you and if unchecking it gets you the result you want.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


firefox version being used

marvin kotler
 

the version of firefox I am using is 49.0.1; no error messages being shown.


How to take action on a notification?

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,


Until recently, I was using the original Windows 10 and the latest JAWS 17. I had no third party antivirus program.
The text of Notification messages were never announced, though I frequently heard alert tunes.

 

Earlier, Mcafee antivirus and anti spyware, installed itself. I uninstalled it so it disappeared from the “Add Remove” list.

 

A few days ago, trying to shut down, the computer would not power off because it was doing an update.  The update took a couple of hours and the PC restarted a few times. This was probably the anniversary edition of Windows 10 installing itself.

 

I then installed JAWS 18 beta 2.

 

Now, every time I boot I hear this notification:

Notification from security and maintenance.

We’ve turned on Windows Defender. Your version of Mcafee antivirus is incompatible with this version of Windows.

Do you want to continue using Windows Defender or update Mcafee antivirus?

Action

 

I assume that last word "action" requires me to take action.
I cannot get to that notification message, to find out how to take action.

 

The system tray has

    System Status: protected button

The Control Center shows that both firewall and virus protection are checked.

 

  It seems that when I boot, Windows 10 thinks that Defender is turned off. The notification mentions Mcafee, but it is not in the “Add Remove” list.

 

How do I answer the notification which seems to expect an action?

 

Thanks,

 

Peter T


Re: Failure when trying to download with firefox

 

Marv,

          What version of Firefox and what, precisely, is the error message you're getting?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Failure when trying to download with firefox

marvin kotler
 

Good morning list.  Marv here; using jaws 17 on windows vista.  When I try to download a book from bookshare or from anywhere else, I get a failure message meaning firefox cannot download anything; do not have this problem with internet explorer.  If anyone has a solution, I would like to hear it and thanks in advance.
 


Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

 

Hi Brian,

 

I just tried to follow the instructions in the article for Firefox, but Jaws just read a single item on the screen under Applications as “List box”. When I pressed enter on it I did find something about using Adobe DC, but it was all very inaccessible.

 

Also, do you happen to know how to do this in Internet Explorer? I have a few desktops at work which still run Windows 7 and when I use the Canada Post electronic shipping tools which is an online tool to create mailing labels, on one of my PC’s the notification bar pops up at the bottom after I press the final Submit button and I have the options to either Open or Save the label. One my other PC in my office it for some reason does not do this and instead the mailing label is displayed and I can sort of click on it and save it, but it’s a bit hit and miss. I did check in Adobe and I have unchecked the option to show PDF documents in Internet Explorer which usually causes them to open in Adobe.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

 

Tom,

          To set Firefox to use the PDF Viewer program of your choice see:  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/disable-built-pdf-viewer-and-use-another-viewer 

          To set Chrome to use the PDF Viewer program of your choice:

  1. In the address bar, enter:  chrome:plugins
  2. Once the plugins tab loads, search for the "Chrome PDF Viewer" entry, which is enabled by default, and for which there is a disable link.  Activate that link.

After doing this when you are dealing with a PDF file it should then open in whatever program you have set up as the default for PDF files on your system.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


question reading to and from fields

marvin kotler
 

Good morning list.  Marv here; first, using jaws 17 and windows vista.  Having some difficulty with windows mail; cannot read the to or from fields with the virtual cursor; jaws says to or from picture one.  I can read these fields with the jaws cursor.  Tek support did not know what to do; if anyone has a resolution for this, would like to hear it.  Thanks
 


Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

 

Tom,

          To set Firefox to use the PDF Viewer program of your choice see:  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/disable-built-pdf-viewer-and-use-another-viewer 

          To set Chrome to use the PDF Viewer program of your choice:

  1. In the address bar, enter:  chrome:plugins
  2. Once the plugins tab loads, search for the "Chrome PDF Viewer" entry, which is enabled by default, and for which there is a disable link.  Activate that link.

After doing this when you are dealing with a PDF file it should then open in whatever program you have set up as the default for PDF files on your system.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

George Basioli <gbmagoo@...>
 

Well I can not remember the exact steps but I had my bank, chase I t, walk
me through it.

It is under the tools menu in I e when you are on a webpage.

There is a setting also in there you need to change and isa little difficult
to find, so if you have a bank I would call them and tell them you need help
with their web page and they will connect you to their I t people.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 5, 2016 16:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When
Reading On Line PDF Documents

With your cursor on the filename, use the applications key to get to "open
with" and choose the program you want to use.
At 05:11 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I just worked with Sherry from Freedom Scientific regarding my problem
with the constant clickable announcement when reading On line PDF
documents.

We couldn't properly configure Adobe Acrobat Pro to avoid the clickable
announcements, so she suggested that I install Adobe Reader DC, which I
have done.

As instructed, I have gone into the accessibility settings and told
Adobe Reader DC to not read downloaded PDF documents in my browser, but
how do I get Internet Explorer and Firefox to recognize Adobe Reader DC
as my preferred reader for Adobe PDF files?

Thanks for any help!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

anil adivishnu
 

hi plees remove the firefox which your useing and instal beta version
of the firefox their is someware in menus you will find option to give
feedback press enter on that and report your problem they will sollve
it hope this helps

On 10/6/16, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Mario:

I would do that, but don't have NVDA installed here yet.

Need to get the program and learn how to use it, though, for just this
reason.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

try getting to voiceover-easy.net using NVDA instead of JAWS.
if you don't get the error message when using Firefox, you can demonstrate
to FS that the problem does lie with JAWS.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 8:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

So, how exactly do I convince FS that this might be a Jaws issue?

I guess I can try calling them again tomorrow.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox,
the
issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and
files
under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean
out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result,
because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current
web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is
not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites
between Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate
the problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email
voiceover-easy and see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use
some input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the
following issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing
tutorials for the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get
the error message below. I don't get this message when trying to
access the web site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct
the problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of
the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more
information about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]


Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double'
is not valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint)
+4775




----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319;
ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












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Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

 

Yes, page up or page down work, but you have to get Jaws speaking with a Say All before you can change the speed, the other key combination works no matter whether Jaws is speaking or not.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

I can change it by just hitting Page Up to increase it or Page Down to decrease JAWS. I tried, just to make sure.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

ctrl-alt-windows + pagedown.
At 06:40 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hi,

Somehow I increased the speech rate of JAWS on my laptop.
I'm thinking
it's from using the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down keys with
another key
pressed simultaneously, but for the life of me I can't
figure it out.

Can someone please point out how to reduce JAWS speech rate
from the keyboard?

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

Emmanuel Bassey <dr.emmabassey@...>
 

Hi,
To increase your Jaws speed, press down the control key, FN key and
ALT key with your left hand together. Then use your right hand to tap
up or down arrow key to increase or decrease respectively.
Hope it helps!

Emmanuel

On 10/6/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:
Hi,

Somehow I increased the speech rate of JAWS on my laptop. I'm thinking it's
from using the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down keys with another key pressed
simultaneously, but for the life of me I can't figure it out.

Can someone please point out how to reduce JAWS speech rate from the
keyboard?

Thanks in advance, Keith
--
Emmanuel Bassey (MBBCh.)
Master of Disability Policy and Practice
Faculty of Medicine
Flinders University
Bedford Park, Australia.
Ph: +61469869938
email: bass0081@flinders.edu.au


Re: opening PDF with Acrobat Reader, was Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

Mario:

I'm happy to report that I successfully followed your steps, and now have
Firefox opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader DC.

I want to thank you and everyone else for your patience.

It sure is nice to be able to read these files without having Jaws say
"clickable" all the time. (smile)

I'll save these instructions for future reference.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 9:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening PDF with Acrobat Reader, was Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue
With Firefox 49

Tom, I accidentally deleted your post about having Firefox open a PDF with
Acrobat Reader:

when in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for tools and o for
options.
what I do, and it may not be necessary, press control+home to move to the
top of the page.
either press insert+z to turn virtual PC cursor off and use the arrow keys
to move to the applications category, or move down to where JAWS announces
list box, press the space bar and arrow to the applications category.
press the tab key 3 times. this is a list of file extensions/events that
correlate to an action you want Firefox to perform when encountering that
file type.
arrow to the Portable Document Format (PDF) and press the tab key.

here is where it gets a bit trying to set it the way you want.
press the up or down arrow keys to choose the option you want.
the default is Use Adobe Acrobat Reader if you have Reader, which you do.
if you encounter the option to send, in this case, a PDF, you will be placed
in a dialog to select which program to open/execute the file.
if you don't intend to have a program handle the file, you'll have to tab to
and space bar on the cancel button, thus forcing you to start over from the
beginning.
so now you'll have to take note of how this particular dialog works.
once you've selected to use Adobe Reader, you're set, unless you want to
tinker with the other file types/events. if not, you can just press
control+w or alt+f4, and try it out.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

Mario:

I would do that, but don't have NVDA installed here yet.

Need to get the program and learn how to use it, though, for just this
reason.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

try getting to voiceover-easy.net using NVDA instead of JAWS.
if you don't get the error message when using Firefox, you can demonstrate
to FS that the problem does lie with JAWS.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 8:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

So, how exactly do I convince FS that this might be a Jaws issue?

I guess I can try calling them again tomorrow.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox, the
issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and files
under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean
out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result,
because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites
between Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate
the problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email
voiceover-easy and see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use
some input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the
following issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing
tutorials for the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get
the error message below. I don't get this message when trying to
access the web site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct
the problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of
the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more
information about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]


Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double'
is not valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint)
+4775




----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319;
ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.












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.


opening PDF with Acrobat Reader, was Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario
 

Tom, I accidentally deleted your post about having Firefox open a PDF
with Acrobat Reader:

when in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for tools and o for
options.
what I do, and it may not be necessary, press control+home to move to
the top of the page.
either press insert+z to turn virtual PC cursor off and use the arrow
keys to move to the applications category, or move down to where JAWS
announces list box, press the space bar and arrow to the applications
category.
press the tab key 3 times. this is a list of file extensions/events that
correlate to an action you want Firefox to perform when encountering
that file type.
arrow to the Portable Document Format (PDF) and press the tab key.

here is where it gets a bit trying to set it the way you want.
press the up or down arrow keys to choose the option you want.
the default is Use Adobe Acrobat Reader if you have Reader, which you do.
if you encounter the option to send, in this case, a PDF, you will be
placed in a dialog to select which program to open/execute the file.
if you don't intend to have a program handle the file, you'll have to
tab to and space bar on the cancel button, thus forcing you to start
over from the beginning.
so now you'll have to take note of how this particular dialog works.
once you've selected to use Adobe Reader, you're set, unless you want to
tinker with the other file types/events. if not, you can just press
control+w or alt+f4, and try it out.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario
 

try getting to voiceover-easy.net using NVDA instead of JAWS.
if you don't get the error message when using Firefox, you can
demonstrate to FS that the problem does lie with JAWS.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 8:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

So, how exactly do I convince FS that this might be a Jaws issue?

I guess I can try calling them again tomorrow.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox, the
issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and files
under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean
out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result,
because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites
between Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate
the problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email
voiceover-easy and see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use
some input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the
following issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing
tutorials for the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get
the error message below. I don't get this message when trying to
access the web site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct
the problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of
the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more
information about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]


Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double'
is not valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint)
+4775




----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319;
ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.












__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
signature database 14232 (20161005) __________

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Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I can change it by just hitting Page Up to increase it or
Page Down to decrease JAWS. I tried, just to make sure.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a
laptop?

ctrl-alt-windows + pagedown.
At 06:40 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hi,

Somehow I increased the speech rate of JAWS on my laptop.
I'm thinking
it's from using the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down keys with
another key
pressed simultaneously, but for the life of me I can't
figure it out.

Can someone please point out how to reduce JAWS speech rate
from the keyboard?

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

So, how exactly do I convince FS that this might be a Jaws issue?

I guess I can try calling them again tomorrow.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox, the
issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and files
under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean
out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result,
because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites
between Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate
the problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email
voiceover-easy and see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use
some input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the
following issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing
tutorials for the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get
the error message below. I don't get this message when trying to
access the web site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct
the problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of
the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more
information about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]


Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double'
is not valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint)
+4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319;
ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












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Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

Tom Behler
 

Ann:

Can I do this globally by changing a setting in Firefox or Internet Explorer
for all PDF files, or must I do it for each individual PDF file?


Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 7:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When
Reading On Line PDF Documents

With your cursor on the filename, use the applications key to get to "open
with" and choose the program you want to use.
At 05:11 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I just worked with Sherry from Freedom Scientific regarding my problem
with the constant clickable announcement when reading On line PDF
documents.

We couldn't properly configure Adobe Acrobat Pro to avoid the clickable
announcements, so she suggested that I install Adobe Reader DC, which I
have done.

As instructed, I have gone into the accessibility settings and told
Adobe Reader DC to not read downloaded PDF documents in my browser, but
how do I get Internet Explorer and Firefox to recognize Adobe Reader DC
as my preferred reader for Adobe PDF files?

Thanks for any help!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan