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Re: Strange behavior with Winamp
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Marty. Yes, I'm in the play list editor page, and the tracks actually do change, and the new song begins playing when I press B or Z, JAWS just doesn't voice the title when the track changes.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Strange behavior with Winamp
Have you made sure that you are in the play list editor page when you hit B or Z? Control Tab will get you there.
Love in Christ
So you mean, JAWS speaks this info as soon as you hit z, b, or whatever? I don’t think it’s ever really done that for me. Which I mostly like – if I’m listening to music, dj-ing or whatever, I don’t generally want JAWS to be speaking Too. I was considering a second sound device so I could have audio players/software and screen-readers on totally separate systems but now that I mostly use braille, I’m not too bothered. For feedback from winamp , usually if you just return to its window it will tell you its title. You can also get this by hitting insert-t, which reads the title bar that displays track name and artist.
If you want this info automatically spoken when you hit one of the bottom-letter-row control keys for the player – I’m not really sure what to tell you. It seems to me like not speaking that info is the norm and the other way would be the aberration, but that seems to be what you prefer and I don’t know what occasionally causes JAWS to speak that info after a keypress or how you can ensure that it continues to do so always.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi. I'm using Winamp version 5.66 with JAWS 2020. Occasionally, winamp will stop giving me the track number, title, and artist as I use the B command for next track, or the Z command for previous track. Once this happens, I have tried many things including, 1. Rebooting the computer. 2. Reinstalling Winamp. 3. Restarting JAWS. 4. Repairing JAWS.
Sometimes, for no apparent reason, Winamp, after exhibiting this behavior will suddenly begin voicing track number, title, and artist again.
Have other people experienced this behavior with Winamp, JAWS and Windows 10? If so, have you found any way to get JAWS to begin voicing track number, title, and artist again when it stops doing so?
Thank you.
Bill White
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Laura Shumate <larelishumate@...>
Hi Pastor,
I think that it should be sometime in October. Laura Shumate larelishumate@gmail.com
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Re: Test
Laura Shumate <larelishumate@...>
Sure I think there were some issues with Groups.io.
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Pastor Gilbert Pries
That won't happen with me again. I'm here to stay.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: My Subscription
Mr. Kennedy is correct that no matter how many times you subscribe using the same e-mail address you are simply subscribed. If you were to send 10 subscribe requests you won't get 10 copies of every message, because accounts are based on an e-mail address used when subscribing, and those accounts are unique. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Strange behavior with Winamp
Marty Hutchings
Have you made sure that you are in the play list editor page when you hit B
or Z? Control Tab will get you there.
Love in
Christ
Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
So you mean, JAWS speaks this info as soon as you hit z, b, or whatever? I don’t think it’s ever really done that for me. Which I mostly like – if I’m listening to music, dj-ing or whatever, I don’t generally want JAWS to be speaking Too. I was considering a second sound device so I could have audio players/software and screen-readers on totally separate systems but now that I mostly use braille, I’m not too bothered. For feedback from winamp , usually if you just return to its window it will tell you its title. You can also get this by hitting insert-t, which reads the title bar that displays track name and artist.
If you want this info automatically spoken when you hit one of the bottom-letter-row control keys for the player – I’m not really sure what to tell you. It seems to me like not speaking that info is the norm and the other way would be the aberration, but that seems to be what you prefer and I don’t know what occasionally causes JAWS to speak that info after a keypress or how you can ensure that it continues to do so always.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill
White
Hi. I'm using Winamp version 5.66 with JAWS 2020. Occasionally, winamp will stop giving me the track number, title, and artist as I use the B command for next track, or the Z command for previous track. Once this happens, I have tried many things including, 1. Rebooting the computer. 2. Reinstalling Winamp. 3. Restarting JAWS. 4. Repairing JAWS.
Sometimes, for no apparent reason, Winamp, after exhibiting this behavior will suddenly begin voicing track number, title, and artist again.
Have other people experienced this behavior with Winamp, JAWS and Windows 10? If so, have you found any way to get JAWS to begin voicing track number, title, and artist again when it stops doing so?
Thank you.
Bill White
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Re: where are the sound files located
Mario
it doesn't seem possible. however, the wanted wav files can be copied to the folder that Richard mentioned. there is also an import button that wanted wav files can be added to the folder.
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On 9/22/2020 1:41 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I have no idea about whether you can choose a different folder, but for Jaws 2020, you will find them in this location:
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Marty Hutchings
I think that what Kevin is asking is how many characters will fit in a
standard cell at the default width?
Love in
Christ
Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
For automatic row height adjustment, it’s alt h then o then a. To manually adjust row height, it’s alt h then o then h. For automatic column width, it’s alt h then o then i. To manually adjust column width, it’s alt h then o then w.
My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don’t always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I’ll restart Jaws, but that doesn’t always help either.
Hope that helps.
Zel
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days. I’ll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I’m also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell? Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Ann Byrne
Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
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At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:
For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Richard Turner
Thank you Zel, Even though I didn’t ask the question, I will use these a lot. I thought it was something like that.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Zel Iscel
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel
For automatic row height adjustment, it’s alt h then o then a. To manually adjust row height, it’s alt h then o then h. For automatic column width, it’s alt h then o then i. To manually adjust column width, it’s alt h then o then w.
My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don’t always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I’ll restart Jaws, but that doesn’t always help either.
Hope that helps.
Zel
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days. I’ll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I’m also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell? Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin
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Re: synthesizer versus voice
David Diamond
There is an actress in the U S who even when speaking French in a movie where she was supposed to be from France, still sounded like an American trying to speak French. The words themselves were correct just, not the proper pronunciation of the words. Somewhat like some languages roll their Rs in some of the words, not rolling them you still can tell what the person is trying to say, just they are not rolling their Rs the way that culture and language does. Most of the eloquence voices such as rocko, gramma etc. all that is being done is the pitch is being changed.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: September 22, 2020 12:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice
Not saying it is, of course, but if it 8was* your own regional accent that was being talked about, you wouldn’t really be aware of it and how it sounds to others as to you it’d just be the default state of speaking. When people from other parts talk about the accent they hear and especially attempt to imitate what they are hearing, what comes out tends to be an exaggeration or caricature. This is why in early drama school and such they tell you not to try putting on accents when attempting to play a character., Some people do get really good at it (See Peter Sellers for instance, thougha s a comic actor exaggeration was also one of his things).
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I'm in the U.S. and I've never even heard that used before. I live in the mid-west. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Casey Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 4:56 PM Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice
Hahah…it’s all relative; Canadians don’t say “aboot” either.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sorry, but people in the United states do not say “aboot” unless they happen to live very close to the Canadian border. I’m not sure why that is, but the vast majority of people here in the U.S. say about, not aboot.
IN fact, most U.S. natives make fun of the Canadians for saying aboot.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Diamond
I was chatting with someone from New Zealand and she told me some of her compatriots were mimicking the U S accent. Thus it is not just the screen reader voices, it is Different nations voices. Example, apparently Canadians and United States persons say aboot instead of about, according to the woman in N Z.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:20 PM, JM Casey wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Strange behavior with Winamp
JM Casey
So you mean, JAWS speaks this info as soon as you hit z, b, or whatever? I don’t think it’s ever really done that for me. Which I mostly like – if I’m listening to music, dj-ing or whatever, I don’t generally want JAWS to be speaking Too. I was considering a second sound device so I could have audio players/software and screen-readers on totally separate systems but now that I mostly use braille, I’m not too bothered. For feedback from winamp , usually if you just return to its window it will tell you its title. You can also get this by hitting insert-t, which reads the title bar that displays track name and artist.
If you want this info automatically spoken when you hit one of the bottom-letter-row control keys for the player – I’m not really sure what to tell you. It seems to me like not speaking that info is the norm and the other way would be the aberration, but that seems to be what you prefer and I don’t know what occasionally causes JAWS to speak that info after a keypress or how you can ensure that it continues to do so always.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 22, 2020 3:18 PM To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Strange behavior with Winamp
Hi. I'm using Winamp version 5.66 with JAWS 2020. Occasionally, winamp will stop giving me the track number, title, and artist as I use the B command for next track, or the Z command for previous track. Once this happens, I have tried many things including, 1. Rebooting the computer. 2. Reinstalling Winamp. 3. Restarting JAWS. 4. Repairing JAWS.
Sometimes, for no apparent reason, Winamp, after exhibiting this behavior will suddenly begin voicing track number, title, and artist again.
Have other people experienced this behavior with Winamp, JAWS and Windows 10? If so, have you found any way to get JAWS to begin voicing track number, title, and artist again when it stops doing so?
Thank you.
Bill White
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Zel Iscel
For automatic row height adjustment, it’s alt h then o then a. To manually adjust row height, it’s alt h then o then h. For automatic column width, it’s alt h then o then i. To manually adjust column width, it’s alt h then o then w.
My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don’t always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I’ll restart Jaws, but that doesn’t always help either.
Hope that helps.
Zel
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days. I’ll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I’m also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell? Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin
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Re: synthesizer versus voice
JM Casey
I hear that. I’m not one of those people but if I’m using eloquence I still set the rate at about 50%, which is too fast for most non-screen-reader users to understand. I probably won’t go faster as I have some hearing issues…everything always sounds loud enough but deciphering fast speech, certain types of accents, or having conversations in a crowded place where everyone is talking can be difficult for me – and many go way faster than I do when it comes to their speech output. I use braille most of the time now and only turn on speech once in a while.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 21, 2020 6:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:10 PM, JM Casey wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: synthesizer versus voice
JM Casey
Not saying it is, of course, but if it 8was* your own regional accent that was being talked about, you wouldn’t really be aware of it and how it sounds to others as to you it’d just be the default state of speaking. When people from other parts talk about the accent they hear and especially attempt to imitate what they are hearing, what comes out tends to be an exaggeration or caricature. This is why in early drama school and such they tell you not to try putting on accents when attempting to play a character., Some people do get really good at it (See Peter Sellers for instance, thougha s a comic actor exaggeration was also one of his things).
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: September 21, 2020 8:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice
I'm in the U.S. and I've never even heard that used before. I live in the mid-west. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Casey Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 4:56 PM Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice
Hahah…it’s all relative; Canadians don’t say “aboot” either.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sorry, but people in the United states do not say “aboot” unless they happen to live very close to the Canadian border. I’m not sure why that is, but the vast majority of people here in the U.S. say about, not aboot.
IN fact, most U.S. natives make fun of the Canadians for saying aboot.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
I was chatting with someone from New Zealand and she told me some of her compatriots were mimicking the U S accent. Thus it is not just the screen reader voices, it is Different nations voices. Example, apparently Canadians and United States persons say aboot instead of about, according to the woman in N Z.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:20 PM, JM Casey wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Strange behavior with Winamp
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi. I'm using Winamp version 5.66 with JAWS 2020. Occasionally, winamp will stop giving me the track number, title, and artist as I use the B command for next track, or the Z command for previous track. Once this happens, I have tried many things including, 1. Rebooting the computer. 2. Reinstalling Winamp. 3. Restarting JAWS. 4. Repairing JAWS.
Sometimes, for no apparent reason, Winamp, after exhibiting this behavior will suddenly begin voicing track number, title, and artist again.
Have other people experienced this behavior with Winamp, JAWS and Windows 10? If so, have you found any way to get JAWS to begin voicing track number, title, and artist again when it stops doing so?
Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Richard Turner
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days. I’ll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Width of cell in Excel
Hello, I’m using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I’m also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell? Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin
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Mr. Kennedy is correct that no matter how many times you subscribe using the same e-mail address you are simply subscribed. If you were to send 10 subscribe requests you won't get 10 copies of every message, because accounts are based on an e-mail address used when subscribing, and those accounts are unique.
There are plenty of instances where Groups.io, or any e-mail list service, or any individual e-mail user, may end up waiting a long time for a given message to make it anywhere, because all it takes is one "constipated server" in the bucket brigade to cause whatever lands on it to stay there until the issue is fixed. The list server software itself can also encounter issues. Waiting it out for a reasonable period of time, which is many hours to a day, is the way to go before starting to check on whether things are OK, and if they're not sending messages to any group will prove nothing, as they will be held. Send a message to support@groups.io, and only after at least 12 hours have passed, if not more. These kinds of "burps" simply happen, and do tend to get fixed by the powers that be. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Bob Kennedy
I think you will only be subscribed once no matter how many times you try. A word of caution with any email coming from groups.io, sending an email to spam or junk will automatically unsubscribe you. All posts don't always post instantly. Isaiah 40:31
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When did it start?!
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Well, his moniker is paster Gill, does that not mean he is a man of the cloth? LOL. Don’t worry mod and list members my jocularity is over with. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Dear God… So. Many. Messages. Cristóbal From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries I think I subscribed twice. Pastor Gil
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Re: synthesizer versus voice
Loy <loyrg2845@...>
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The female voice used by bookshare audio is pretty
good.
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice I know that the Daniel UK voice is created from the “blueprints” of an actor’s voice..Jonathan somethingorother (can’t recall).
For a good time, try the Kate (UK) voice and write out “Hey! How’s it going?” or something liket aht She sounds so enthusiastic she squeaks… You have to get the exclamation mark in there after a single preparatory word though.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Some of the voices recorded by humans, sound a little off too. One of the female U S voices sounds like she is having a bad day all the time and needs to chill out as they say. I guess it all comes down to what you prefer. I heard an interview of the woman who does the Australian voice, Karen and she went into great detail as to what was involved in creating that screen reader voice for JAWS or IOS devices. The voice got named after her real name, Karen.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Pastor Gil Pries
Eliquence sounds like it has a cold sometimes.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:10 PM, JM Casey wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The
purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome
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Pastor Gilbert Pries
It happened yesterday. I subscribed twice, but nothing has happened. Just the 1 subscription took affect.
Pastor Gil
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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: My Subscription
When did it start?!
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