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Re: reading google play ebooks

jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
 

The title doesn’t seem to matter, I went back to get the exact title and I noticed that there was a msg on screen about the book not being in “flowing text” or similar intended as a warning I guess to Jaws users.
 

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: reading google play ebooks
 

Jeff,

         The answer to this question is somewhat dependent on what device you want to read the book on and what OS it is running.  Under Windows 10 there is a free app in the App store.  Under any version of Windows in a web browser you should be able to go to books.google.com to find the book you want and read it.  I was just on the books.google.com site with NVDA and there appears to be an accessibility mode available when you're using a screen reader via a button that's invisible to the sighted world but that gets focus via the screen reader.

          If what you're trying to read is not something you'd like to keep private, can you share what it is you're trying to get at and the URL?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: more voices for jaws

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Anyone know whatever happened to the budding romance between HJ (as it was at the time) and DEC?  Some demo material was issued about 1997, but nothing ever came of it; Eloquence came onboard the following year.  I think Dec’s female voices were better than those offered in Eloquence, either then or now.  I’ve never been able to tolerate those for anything more than a JAWS cursor.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more voices for jaws

 

That sounds like a good idea to me. I used to have a computer from Humanware, that had Keynote Gold on it, but it was made specially for that company. Perhaps Freedom Scientific should contact them about it. By the way, isn't Keynote Gold part of the additional synthesizers they have in the list to be added when you perform a modify operation for JAWS? Also, I have a version of True Voice, but every time I install it via the .exe file I've obtained, then I go to do a Modify operation with JAWS, it still doesn't show up! What's up with that? Here's another synthesizer suggestion, the L&H multilingual Speech Engine can be included on the Voice Downloads page of www.freedomscientific.com.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: more voices for jaws

I have a suggestion for more voices for jaws perhaps you on this list who remember keynote gold multimedia and sapi4 infovox230 could also write to freedom scientific so these could be implemented. 1.                FS should have their own version of Baum international TTS so both jaws, and apps outside of jaws can see and use sapi4 voices such as the free TruVoice under sapi5 a sapi4 to sapi5 bridge. 2. Add Japanese Korean and Chinese eloquence languages. 3. Acquire the old sapi4 Infovox230 multilingual and add it to jaws as a sapi voice so both jaws and apps outside of jaws can use it. 3. Acquire Keynote gold Multilingual and add it to jaws as a sapi4 or sapi5 tts engine choice. 4. Add ESpeak to jaws as a tts choice. Then FS could say we have the most voices when installing jaws.


Re: searching for an email again outlook 2016

Tom Behler
 

Kimsan:

 

Here’s another set of steps for you to try.  They work with Outlook 2016, which is what I currently use.

 

Bring up Search via shift-control-f at the message list.

 

Then, select which field you want to edit (subject, to, from, etc.)

 

Then type in your key search words.

 

Then, press enter

 

Wait until JAWS says "Find now button"

 

Then, press F6

 

You now should be in a list of messages that you can navigate with the up and down arrows

 

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: searching for an email again outlook 2016

 

Hi,

 

There was a thread that I failed to save. I’m using outlook 2016 so in my sent messages, I sent an email to someone, obviously smile.  What’s the quickest way to locate that email since there are several in that folder.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: searching for an email again outlook 2016

Jason White
 

From the list of messages, type Ctrl+E to enter the search field, type the
terms you want to search for, then use F6 as needed to return to the message
list, which now only includes messages that match your search terms.

You can use query syntax in the search field to specify more precisely which
messages to find. For example, from:someone@example.org will find messages
from someone@example.org.

Kimsan <kimsansong@outlook.com> wrote:

There was a thread that I failed to save. I'm using outlook 2016 so in my sent messages, I sent an email to someone, obviously smile. What's the quickest way to locate that email since there are several in that folder.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com


Re: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Stan Holdeman
 

Good morning, Russell: I am having issues with stuck control and alt keys
running the latest W10 and J 17. Tapping the offending stuck key usually
unsticks it for me, but I know of no more permanent fix.

Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Hi everyone,

Last week at work I had my 4 month old Lenovo desktop computer running
Windows 7, re-imaged because I was having trouble with my computer freezing
a lot. After re-installing Jaws 17, I am running into an issue where, if I
am in a Word document or on a web page in Chrome, and press alt + tab to
switch to another program, Jaws says, Alt CTRL tab, and, instead of being
taken to the program I want, I am placed in a window listing all my running
programs, and I must choose the program I want from the list and then press
enter.

I called VFO tech support, and was briskly, and rudely, I felt, told that
this is not a Jaws issue, and that Jaws has nothing to do with the alt key
sticking. I looked at language and region settings, and I think they are set
where they need to be. Has anyone seen this issue of the right CTRL key
sticking? If so, is there a fix for it?

Thanks for any ideas!

Russell


Re: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

 

Hi Russell,

Are you sure you haven't somehow switched to a different keyboard layout? The behaviour you describe is exactly what I get when I switch to the german keyboard layout. In Germany the right Alt key is used differently and as you said pressing Alt+Tab when I have switched to the german keyboard brings up a list of running programs and I have to arrow to the one I want and press enter on it. Of course in the germany keyboard you also have the three "Umlaut" characters, the a, o and u with the two dots on top and the "y" and "z" are reversed. However, I wonder if maybe other layouts which don't have these aspects also use the Alt key in the described way. If that is the case then Jaws tech support was indeed correct although they could have maybe said in a nicer way.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Hi everyone,

Last week at work I had my 4 month old Lenovo desktop computer running Windows 7, re-imaged because I was having trouble with my computer freezing a lot. After re-installing Jaws 17, I am running into an issue where, if I am in a Word document or on a web page in Chrome, and press alt + tab to switch to another program, Jaws says, Alt CTRL tab, and, instead of being taken to the program I want, I am placed in a window listing all my running programs, and I must choose the program I want from the list and then press enter.

I called VFO tech support, and was briskly, and rudely, I felt, told that this is not a Jaws issue, and that Jaws has nothing to do with the alt key sticking. I looked at language and region settings, and I think they are set where they need to be. Has anyone seen this issue of the right CTRL key sticking? If so, is there a fix for it?

Thanks for any ideas!

Russell


searching for an email again outlook 2016

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,

 

There was a thread that I failed to save. I’m using outlook 2016 so in my sent messages, I sent an email to someone, obviously smile.  What’s the quickest way to locate that email since there are several in that folder.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:42 pm, HH. Smith Jr. wrote:
if you don’t put in a tutor message it doesn’t announce the change the next time you come across it.

Thanks again for that important bit of information.  I definitely want to be certain that each and every time one visits a control where a prompt has been created that it will always be repeated on each subsequent visitation.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

HH. Smith Jr.
 

One other thing, I just discovered, if you don’t put in a tutor message it doesn’t announce the change the next time you come across it. I used the same words twice; but, to each his own.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

HtH,

           Thank you.  Since the system in question isn't "dynamic" in terms of what's presented as you traverse input screens (though you can and do change the possible visitation order) this technique should work well for "filling in the blanks."

           I am eternally grateful for the pointer and to know the command can also be used to re-label an existing edit box.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

HtH,

           Thank you.  Since the system in question isn't "dynamic" in terms of what's presented as you traverse input screens (though you can and do change the possible visitation order) this technique should work well for "filling in the blanks."

           I am eternally grateful for the pointer and to know the command can also be used to re-label an existing edit box.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hey again,

 

I tried it when I was composing this email. I used the command and change the subject line to now say on my machine “none of your business” and it works.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

Hi Brian,

 

It shows up in the JAWS manager screen JAWS key +F2 when you’re in a dialog box. It is defined in the search for JAWS commands screen jaws key+ space+ J. it also can be used anywhere the user is prompted to enter information. It seems to me that it works like an alt tag for unclear request on a control. its’ keystroke is ctrl jaws key tab.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

Hello All,

        I am about to begin working with a client at her work site where JAWS will be used on top of a custom software interface, though I believe the interface is web-based.  I have been told by someone who had worked very briefly with this system that a number of edit fields work just as you'd expect and JAWS announces the alt text or label text that goes with them.  Others, however, get a generic announcement that you're in an edit box.

        I have been told that there is a "prompt create" function in JAWS which will allow you to create the prompt that JAWS speaks for an unlabeled edit box whenever you land in it after assigning the prompt.  I have not ever seen this nor recall documentation for same.

        Is anyone familiar with this function and/or what piece of JAWS documentation I should review to learn more about it?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Brian,

 

It shows up in the JAWS manager screen JAWS key +F2 when you’re in a dialog box. It is defined in the search for JAWS commands screen jaws key+ space+ J. it also can be used anywhere the user is prompted to enter information. It seems to me that it works like an alt tag for unclear request on a control. its’ keystroke is ctrl jaws key tab.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

Hello All,

        I am about to begin working with a client at her work site where JAWS will be used on top of a custom software interface, though I believe the interface is web-based.  I have been told by someone who had worked very briefly with this system that a number of edit fields work just as you'd expect and JAWS announces the alt text or label text that goes with them.  Others, however, get a generic announcement that you're in an edit box.

        I have been told that there is a "prompt create" function in JAWS which will allow you to create the prompt that JAWS speaks for an unlabeled edit box whenever you land in it after assigning the prompt.  I have not ever seen this nor recall documentation for same.

        Is anyone familiar with this function and/or what piece of JAWS documentation I should review to learn more about it?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi everyone,

Last week at work I had my 4 month old Lenovo desktop computer running Windows 7, re-imaged because I was having trouble with my computer freezing a lot. After re-installing Jaws 17, I am running into an issue where, if I am in a Word document or on a web page in Chrome, and press alt + tab to switch to another program, Jaws says, Alt CTRL tab, and, instead of being taken to the program I want, I am placed in a window listing all my running programs, and I must choose the program I want from the list and then press enter.

I called VFO tech support, and was briskly, and rudely, I felt, told that this is not a Jaws issue, and that Jaws has nothing to do with the alt key sticking. I looked at language and region settings, and I think they are set where they need to be. Has anyone seen this issue of the right CTRL key sticking? If so, is there a fix for it?

Thanks for any ideas!

Russell


Re: Web-based gmail account

Marianne Denning
 

I do the same find command and search for "show original." If I am using standard then I press T for table until I hear 2 columns and 1 row. Then I arrow down until I find the beginning of the e-mail. One thing I like about standard is that I have created folders and can move emails into those folders and they are moved out of my inbox. I agree that standard view is more dynamic and can present some challenges. I go back and forth between the 2 options depending on what I want to do.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:49 PM, brian albriton <cocanut50@...> wrote:
Hi, Paul.
When opening a message, I use the jaws find to look for show original, which I shorten to "show or"
I than do a repeat find to move from message to message in the conversation. Sometimes you have to tap and arrow key to get to the text of the messages.
The keystrokes for jaws find and repeat find are control-f and f3, respectively.
This is just my way of doing it and certainly not the only way. You might also consider setting up some flexible web rules for gmail.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web-based gmail account

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having trouble navigating through it.  Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for gmail?  I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus










--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: Web-based gmail account

brian albriton
 

Hi, Paul.
When opening a message, I use the jaws find to look for show original, which I shorten to "show or"
I than do a repeat find to move from message to message in the conversation. Sometimes you have to tap and arrow key to get to the text of the messages.
The keystrokes for jaws find and repeat find are control-f and f3, respectively.
This is just my way of doing it and certainly not the only way. You might also consider setting up some flexible web rules for gmail.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web-based gmail account

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having trouble navigating through it. Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for gmail? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus


"Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

Hello All,

        I am about to begin working with a client at her work site where JAWS will be used on top of a custom software interface, though I believe the interface is web-based.  I have been told by someone who had worked very briefly with this system that a number of edit fields work just as you'd expect and JAWS announces the alt text or label text that goes with them.  Others, however, get a generic announcement that you're in an edit box.

        I have been told that there is a "prompt create" function in JAWS which will allow you to create the prompt that JAWS speaks for an unlabeled edit box whenever you land in it after assigning the prompt.  I have not ever seen this nor recall documentation for same.

        Is anyone familiar with this function and/or what piece of JAWS documentation I should review to learn more about it?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: reading column and row titles in excel

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

One caveat, from a long-time disciple of Murphy. Back up the original keyboard manager, on the off chance something happens--voice of experience. Having a clean copy on my office PC saved my bacon once.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading column and row titles in excel

Sue,

Yes, I update the Excel KBD and JSB files with each major revision, because I use, and prefer the Ctrl+Alt+1, 2, 3, 4 and the shifted versions to read the top 4 titles and leftmost 4 titles. I find these indispensible and thoroughly dislike the more modern replacements. Call me stodgy.
.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue" <sueb@mindspring.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 04:29 AM
Subject: Re: reading column and row titles in excel


Hi,

One of my favorites suggestions to clients is to change the keystroke that
is used to set row and column titles. Now if you are thinking that is a lot
of trouble, you'd be right if you don't require this often or if you only
ever use row 1 and column A as your headers. But you will appreciate a more
convenient set of keystrokes if you have to have say, row 5 and column D as
your headers for one spreadsheet and then row 10 and column F for another.
I usually show people how to do this in the Keyboard Manager.

Sue B.

On Jul 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Mark, try this. It works for me in E-10. With your worksheet open use
"Insert, V", then arrow down to "Workbook settings" open and arrow on down
to "Title reading detection", open and use the space bar to select "read
Colum and row titles", hit enter and you should be good to go.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Furness
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading column and row titles in excel

Is there not a key board command to set up jaws to read the column and row
titles in excel? When I was using excel years ago I thought there was,
currently i can not find it out.
I am having trouble trying the insert, command, alt with the lette.

Thank you for your help!

Markr c for column or r for row.





Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Nathaniel Kile <heavens4real@...>
 

Fire Fox is indeed the Google recommended browser for Google Drive. I work on about five different stations throughout the week and am noticing more and more that FF is definitely a much more screen reader friendly browser than IE.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:
Nate, which Internet browser is the best with Google Drive?  I use Firefox.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
Here is the link to the Google page for Google drive and its accessibility related information, https://support.google.com/a/answer/1631886 It is now called G suite and this is the oficial page for access supported software. 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
NVDA is the most accessible with Drive online, Jaws will do just fine with the desktop version. I was at the training avent with Google two weeks ago in Baltimore and the topic was covered. Jaws will get you around, but NVDA is taylored for drive and its related apps.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 






--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired



Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Marianne Denning
 

Nate, which Internet browser is the best with Google Drive?  I use Firefox.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
Here is the link to the Google page for Google drive and its accessibility related information, https://support.google.com/a/answer/1631886 It is now called G suite and this is the oficial page for access supported software. 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
NVDA is the most accessible with Drive online, Jaws will do just fine with the desktop version. I was at the training avent with Google two weeks ago in Baltimore and the topic was covered. Jaws will get you around, but NVDA is taylored for drive and its related apps.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 






--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Marianne Denning
 

Google Drive is a method of file sharing. Schools use it a lot. I think some businesses use it too. Two or more people can be editing in a document at the same time. It has Google Docs, Google Sheets and Google Slides.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
I'm not familiar with it, so what exactly is Google drive?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Absolutely! I teach my students to use it regularly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 




--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053