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moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

Michael Munn
 

I’m a Jaws user because it's a screen reader that my school provide me and it's also my favorite screen reader of choice. would also suggest NVDA if you want open source screen reader beside Narrator. I The commands like other users has stated, it similar to Jaws. 
   


On Feb 2, 2020, at 8:15 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:



Hi,

NVDA as well.

I find, contrary to many beliefs, that having a quote on quote arsenal of screen readers is very useful in my daily life, just as the ability to work with multiple web browsers is too.

As previously stated, many of the core functions of NVDA are similar to Jaws – one thing to keep in mind is how NVDA’s screen review works vs. object navigation versus the Jaws cursor and touch cursor.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of N K Shackelford
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

 

Definitely N V D A. Just study the key commands, of which some are same as JAWS and some not; very easy.

 

Nance

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2020 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screen reader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screen reading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

NVDA as well.

I find, contrary to many beliefs, that having a quote on quote arsenal of screen readers is very useful in my daily life, just as the ability to work with multiple web browsers is too.

As previously stated, many of the core functions of NVDA are similar to Jaws – one thing to keep in mind is how NVDA’s screen review works vs. object navigation versus the Jaws cursor and touch cursor.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of N K Shackelford
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

 

Definitely N V D A. Just study the key commands, of which some are same as JAWS and some not; very easy.

 

Nance

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2020 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screen reader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screen reading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

N K Shackelford
 

Definitely N V D A. Just study the key commands, of which some are same as JAWS and some not; very easy.

 

Nance

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2020 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screen reader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screen reading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

John Covici
 

You could use one of your Jaws settings temporarily, if all you need
is the screen reader for a limited time and ask for a reset as well.

On Sun, 02 Feb 2020 16:13:10 -0500,
Joe wrote:

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I would echo the NVDA choice. You can find a great deal of documentation on
the screen reader. Look at NV Access https://www.nvaccess.org/ and
Narrator is also a good choice as well with good documentation on its use.

Joe



Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

Phone: 616.951.2142





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program



Hi,

NVDA is open-source. For further details, let's talk offlist and please
subscribe to NVDA users list located at nvda.groups.io/g/nvda.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program



Hello list members:



Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities.
Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a
volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as
part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific
services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses
because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have
never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago,
Idid a cursory review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in
some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading
program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for
any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.



Best, Justin






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moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Pramit
 

Hi

TWBlue is the most accessible Twitter Client. 

Pramit

On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 3:38 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:
Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws
on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann




moderated Re: Question about notifications

John Skyner
 

Hi Shirley

 

Try windows key and “A” and then press tab

 

Hth

 

John

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy via Groups.Io
Sent: 02 February 2020 14:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about notifications

 

Hi Listers,

 

I’m running Windows 10 and using JAWS 2020.

 

I haven’t gotten “NOTIFICATIONS” on my screen in a very long time. Now, I keep getting it but forgot how to read it. Can someone help?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screen reader program

Joe
 

I would echo the NVDA choice.  You can find a great deal of documentation on the screen reader.  Look at NV Access  https://www.nvaccess.org/  and Narrator is also a good choice as well with good documentation on its use.

Joe

 

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hi,

NVDA is open-source. For further details, let’s talk offlist and please subscribe to NVDA users list located at nvda.groups.io/g/nvda.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Question about notifications

Jason White
 

Windows+a takes you to the Action Center, from which you can read recent notifications.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 9:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about notifications

 

Hi Listers,

 

I’m running Windows 10 and using JAWS 2020.

 

I haven’t gotten “NOTIFICATIONS” on my screen in a very long time. Now, I keep getting it but forgot how to read it. Can someone help?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

moderated Re: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hi,

NVDA is open-source. For further details, let’s talk offlist and please subscribe to NVDA users list located at nvda.groups.io/g/nvda.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Recommendation: Open source screenreader program

Justin Mcdevitt
 

Hello list members:

 

Since retiring I have been involved in a number of volunteer activities. Recently I had a conversation with a local agency who is looking for a volunteer to assist clients in completing an online registration form as part of an interview process regarding potential receipt of specific services.

I understand that I cannot legally use one of my additional Jaws licenses because I have the Home version. Truth to tell, other than JAWS, I have never really worked with any other screenreader programs. Some years ago, Idid a cursory  review of NVDA. I understand that Narrator has improved in some measurable ways. I know that there are other programs out there.

For purposes of this opportunity, where I would need to load a screenreading program onto a laptop in order to conduct the interviews, I am looking for any recommendations of open-source screen Reader programs.

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Best,  Justin  

moderated Re: Windows upgrade;

 

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 10:49 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
so make a backup
Period.  Having a regular, cyclic backup plan, while also taking on-demand additional full system image backups prior to things like upgrades, is essential if you care about your data.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

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moderated Question about notifications

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Listers,

 

I’m running Windows 10 and using JAWS 2020.

 

I haven’t gotten “NOTIFICATIONS” on my screen in a very long time. Now, I keep getting it but forgot how to read it. Can someone help?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Chris Hill
 

You may be right, digging through tw-blue, it seems like things are just thrown out in chronological order.  I guess that is better than nothing, but I think I'll just use my phone.

On 2/2/2020 06:02, Chris Hill wrote:
That's what I'm not getting is replies to tweets.  I never see them, so I suspect they aren't shown, which makes the whole thing pretty useless to me.  Sad, but the ios app is a more useful tool by far.



On 2/1/2020 22:15, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io wrote:
At 10:47 PM 2/1/2020, Chris Hill wrote:
It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue.  I have yet to
figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.


You can follow conversations with the hotkey alt+windows+C. But the conversation gets displayed in its own buffer, which you can either access from the tree view or by moving the buffer focus with alt+windows+left-arrow. However, the conversation buffer only shows your conversation with a user, which is vastly different from a Twitter thread. I still can't figure out how to make TWBlue display complete threads. All I get are original tweets. I'm also speculating that TWBlue does in fact display replies to tweets, but rather than group them by thread, they're in chronological order.
Even so, it's hard to follow a thread when it's broken up over hundreds of tweets.
Orlando Enrique Fiol



moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Chris Hill
 

That's what I'm not getting is replies to tweets.  I never see them, so I suspect they aren't shown, which makes the whole thing pretty useless to me.  Sad, but the ios app is a more useful tool by far.

On 2/1/2020 22:15, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io wrote:
At 10:47 PM 2/1/2020, Chris Hill wrote:
It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue.  I have yet to
figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.


You can follow conversations with the hotkey alt+windows+C. But the conversation gets displayed in its own buffer, which you can either access from the tree view or by moving the buffer focus with alt+windows+left-arrow. However, the conversation buffer only shows your conversation with a user, which is vastly different from a Twitter thread. I still can't figure out how to make TWBlue display complete threads. All I get are original tweets. I'm also speculating that TWBlue does in fact display replies to tweets, but rather than group them by thread, they're in chronological order.
Even so, it's hard to follow a thread when it's broken up over hundreds of tweets.
Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 10:47 PM 2/1/2020, Chris Hill wrote:
It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue. I have yet to
figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.


You can follow conversations with the hotkey alt+windows+C. But the conversation gets displayed in its own buffer, which you can either access from the tree view or by moving the buffer focus with alt+windows+left-arrow. However, the conversation buffer only shows your conversation with a user, which is vastly different from a Twitter thread. I still can't figure out how to make TWBlue display complete threads. All I get are original tweets. I'm also speculating that TWBlue does in fact display replies to tweets, but rather than group them by thread, they're in chronological order.
Even so, it's hard to follow a thread when it's broken up over hundreds of tweets.
Orlando Enrique Fiol

moderated Re: Windows upgrade;

Chris Hill
 

Some machines can't be upgraded.  I've usually found it out the hard way, so make a backup if you are going to try.

On 2/1/2020 15:29, david wrote:
Hi,

Support for Windows 7 has ended on Jan 14, 2020.

So this goes for anyone who is upgrading or going to upgrade their Windows

from 7 to latest Windows 10.

Mentioned Below are the basic requirements for upgrading to Windows 10.

Processor: 1.8 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor

RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB) or above

Hard disk space: 500 GB or larger

Also some of us might still be using 2 GB of RAM and will think about

upgrading so as to install the latest Windows 10, before doing that please

confirm with your system manufacturer, weather your system support a higher

RAM or not.

If you have the above requirement then you can easily upgrade to Windows 10

and for upgrading you must have the licensed copy or an Activated Version of

the previous Windows 7 on your current computer.

To make sure that your system doesn't act in a sluggish way, keep the

Windows Update option always Turned On, so that all the necessary updates

and security patches are added automatically.

Note: if you're going to try the update process, I would make sure your
windows 7 machine is using a wired connection.

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209


this is a link to download the windows 10 media tool

       The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

the upgrade I heard about was for anyone on the same page where they
want you to buy it, I understand.

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:41:21 -0500,
David Diamond wrote:
Perhaps a call to the Microsoft disability help desk might help. Just ask
if there is still the free upgrade for visually challenged individuals.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: January 31, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

I think there is still a free upgrade to Windows 10, just a bit harder to
find.
On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:10:51 -0500,
Marty Hutchings wrote:
[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] The free upgrade was
offered back when I was using JAWS 13, which would not have been
compatible with Windows 10.
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13


From: David Diamond
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook Messenger

Could you not have taken advantage of the free upgrade that was offered
by Microsoft? Or, is your computer to old? I asked that, not to be a smart
ass, but, I tried to get my sister?s lap top upgraded from 8 to 10 and
Microsoft said it was too old to accept the upgrade. Having said that, I
managed to get a free lap top that according to a tech was a windows 7. It
got upgraded to 10. True, snails move faster then it boots up, but I
managed to scrape up enough funds to get a SSD put in it. Now it moves a
lot faster.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: January 31, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Facebook Messenger



Could someone please tell me how to view videos on facebook Messenger?
I am using JAWS 2019 on a Windows 7 machine. I know that I am supposed to
be upgrading to Windows 10, but don't have the funds.
Thank you.





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moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Chris Hill
 

It is hard to get much out of twitter with tw-blue.  I have yet to figure out how to actually follow a conversation with it, not for lack of trying.

On 2/1/2020 20:51, Andy wrote:
I would say TW Blue.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "ann" <@etheria>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 2:08 PM
Subject: Accessible Twitter clients


Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann




moderated Re: Accessible Twitter clients

Andy
 

I would say TW Blue.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "ann" <@etheria>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020 2:08 PM
Subject: Accessible Twitter clients


Hi,


What is the most accessible Twitter client to use with the latest Jaws on a Windows 10 machine?


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  If you are inclined to Install Cygwin, then it is where you should go.  It has a native SSH client, and, it will allow you to work in a Linux environment on windows with very good results.  Acessibility is spot on.  Cheers!

On 2/2/2020 3:01 AM, Anders Boholdt-Petersen wrote:

Hi everyone

 

What SSH-clients do you can recommend if I will use it with the latest version of JAWS for Windows, and do you have experience with PuTTYgen, a freeware SSH-client?

 

Thanks in advance for your answer, and have a nice day.

 

Regards,

Anders

moderated Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

Jason White
 

I use the ssh client included in mysys2:

https://www.msys2.org/

 

Also, any ssh client run under Windows Subsystem for Linux should be fine.

 

There’s also a built-in ssh client in Windows 10. However, I can’t remember whether it emulates all of the terminal-related features that you’ll need if you’re working with a Linux or UNIX host. The other two options above definitely do.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

 

Hi Anders,

 

I use PuTTY for my college work with no issues once you install the recommended scripts. The link to the scripts and instructions is below:

https://github.com/munawarb/JAWS-PuTTY-Scripts/blob/master/README.md

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 2:01 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessible SSH-clients there work with JAWS

 

Hi everyone

 

What SSH-clients do you can recommend if I will use it with the latest version of JAWS for Windows, and do you have experience with PuTTYgen, a freeware SSH-client?

 

Thanks in advance for your answer, and have a nice day.

 

Regards,

Anders