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Re: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I liked that migration thing, though.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

 

Man, what a yawner to burn  an  SMA on. Oh well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

 

Hi All,

 

Below you'll find the direct download links & what's new for Beta Jaws 18.

 

FS Public Beta Website:

 

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 

New Features Added in JAWS 18

 

The following features are new to JAWS 18. For more information and complete demonstrations, go to the FSCast web page and listen to episode 131.

 

Migrate Settings from Prior Versions of JAWS

 

We have reintroduced the ability for users to merge all user customized settings from the prior version of JAWS into the latest version. This includes any application and default settings, scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles. When JAWS 18 first starts after an install and it detects that there are custom user settings for JAWS 17 available, you will be asked if you want to migrate these settings to the current version of JAWS. Choose Yes to migrate your settings from JAWS 17, or choose No to start with the default settings in JAWS 18 and launch the Startup Wizard.

 

Once the settings have been migrated, a dialog box opens where you can configure the JAWS startup options. This dialog box contains the same options found in the Start JAWS Options dialog box, which is accessed from the JAWS window by opening the Options menu, Selecting Options, and then choosing the Automatically Start JAWS button. Once you have confirmed how you want JAWS to start, choose OK to save and close the dialog box.

 


Note: Due to significant changes to the settings file structure prior to JAWS 17, custom user settings can not be migrated from versions of JAWS older than version 17.

 

Completely New Import and Export for JAWS Customized User Settings

 

JAWS 18 now enables you to quickly and conveniently export all of your JAWS user settings including application and default settings, custom scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles to a single backup file which can be stored or shared with other JAWS users. The JAWS settings backup files are saved with an SBAK extension. This backup file can then be easily imported on any computer running JAWS 18 or later and these settings will be used by that copy of JAWS.

 

To export settings to an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Export Settings. The Export Settings wizard opens and guides you through exporting your settings. During this process, you can choose to export all user settings, or select specific settings to export. By default, the SBAK file is saved to the Desktop using the name JAWS<Version Number>SettingsBackup (where Version Number is the JAWS version currently running when using the export feature). You can specify a different location and file name if necessary, as well as add optional comments to provide more information about why you are creating the backup. Once the export is complete, the SBAK file containing your settings can be shared with other JAWS users through email or a file sharing service such as Dropbox, or stored on a USB flash drive.

 

To import JAWS settings from an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Import Settings. The Import User Settings wizard opens and guides you through importing the settings. By default, the import will merge the settings from the backup file with existing user settings and if a setting in the user folder conflicts with a setting from the backup file, it will be replaced by the setting from the backup. However, you can also choose to simply replace all current settings in the user folder with the contents of the backup or, when merging and there is a settings conflict, you can choose to keep the current setting.

 

During the settings import, the current settings in your user folder are automatically backed up. If you find that the settings that were imported from the SBAK file are not working as expected, you can restore the previous settings. To restore, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Restore Settings. The Restore Settings dialog box opens where you can select the backup file to restore. Choose the Restore button to replace the current settings in your JAWS user folder with the settings from the backup.

 

Some instances of when you might use this feature include:
•You want to use the same JAWS settings on multiple computers, such as in a training center or school computer lab.
•You create a lot of customizations and you want to be able to back them up so you can easily import them when you install a new version of JAWS, elliminating the task of having to manually reconfigure everything.
•A friend would like to use some of your flexible web rules and voice profiles. You could use the Export Settings wizard to only export these particular settings, send the resulting SBAK file to your friend, and if they are running JAWS 18 or later, they can import the file containing your flexible web rules and voice profiles into their copy of JAWS.
•A script developer could send you a SBAK file containing custom scripts and settings for an application that is used at your job and the Import Settings wizard will quickly import all settings and script files to the correct locations in your JAWS user folder.

 

Restrict Virtual Cursor in Web-Based dialog boxes

 

If a dialog box appears on a web page as a result of an action such as activating a specific control, which can occur especially on pages that are part of a web-based application, JAWS now restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box. Sometimes, depending on how the web application is implemented, when focus moves into these dialog boxes, the content of the surrounding page is hidden until focus moves out of the dialog box. However, in many instances, the dialog content merges with the surrounding page which can be confusing especially when you only want to focus on the content in the web dialog box.

 

JAWS automatically restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box when some action occurs that moves the focus into that dialog box. This includes navigating to an edit field in the dialog box with the ARROW keys and Auto Forms mode is enabled, navigating using the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys, or activating a control on the page that automatically sets focus to the dialog box. When the Virtual Cursor is restricted, both speech and braille will only navigate content in the dialog box until restriction is disabled. The Virtual Cursor will be automatically unrestricted if you use the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys to move focus away from the dialog box, or you perform an action in the dialog box that causes focus to be moved to another part of the page, or a completely new page loads.

 

You can also use the INSERT+R keystroke when focused in a web dialog box to manually toggle the Virtual Cursor between restricted and unrestricted. For instance, you may wish to unrestrict the Virtual Cursor to review page content outside of the dialog box without moving focus.

 


Note: In some web applications, surrounding page content is hidden when a dialog box is in focus, so unrestricting the Virtual Cursor to view content outside the dialog box will not always work in these situations.

 

New Speech Option as You Move the Physical Mouse Around the Screen

 

The new mouse echo feature enables JAWS to speak text under the mouse pointer as you move around the screen using a physical mouse or as you move your finger on a trackpad. If you use a refreshable braille display, text under the mouse is also shown in braille as a flash message.

 

While totally blind users may not benefit very much from this feature, there are some cases where it can be useful. For example, there may be times where someone is trying to understand the positioning of text or the layout of controls on the screen, and this could be helpful. You also may encounter applications that have controls that can not be accessed with any of the JAWS cursors and you must use the physical mouse to locate and activate them.

 

For users that have some vision, the ability to also receive speech feedback as they move the physical mouse is very useful. There are also more improvements coming for those who use both MAGic and JAWS together.

 

If you find that you struggle to keep the mouse in a straight line when moving vertically or horrizontally, press and hold the INSERT key (or CAPSLOCK key in Laptop layout) as you move the mouse in a specific direction to lock the mouse pointer to that position. For example, if you locate a menu bar or group of buttons you would like to explore, you could press and hold INSERT as you move the mouse to the right. If you accidentally move slightly up or down, the mouse pointer remains locked to the current position.

 

Mouse echo is off by default. To turn it on, open Settings Center, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file, expand the mouse echo group, and then press the SPACEBAR on Enable Mouse Echo. You can also configure the following:
•Choose whether or not JAWS interrupts speech as you move the mouse pointer over text. By default, JAWS speaks the new text moved to with the mouse regardless of what is currently being spoken.
•Specify the length of time JAWS waits before speaking the text at the location of the mouse pointer. If you move the mouse pointer away before the delay has elapsed, JAWS does not read the text. By default there is no delay which means text is read while the mouse is in motion so you do not have to pause to hear the text under the mouse.
•Select the unit of text (character, word, line, or paragraph) you want to hear when the mouse pointer pauses over text in a control. By default, JAWS reads the current line of text under the mouse. This means that if you move the mouse pointer into the document area of an application such as Microsoft Word, JAWS will read the line of text under the mouse. As you continue moving the mouse around the edit control, JAWS will read other lines from the document. If the control cannot provide the requested unit of text, then JAWS will read all of the text provided by the control. For example, if you move the mouse into the edit control of the Windows 10 Sticky Notes app, JAWS will read the entire contents of the edit field instead of the specified unit of text.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks descriptive information provided by the control that contains the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. Note that descriptive text is not always available. The default is to not speak this information.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks the control type and state of the control containing the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. The default is to speak control information.

 

Alternatively, the following layered keystrokes are available to control mouse echo:
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, O. Toggles mouse echo on or off.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, C. Sets mouse echo to speak the character under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, W. Sets mouse echo to speak the word under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, L. Sets mouse echo to speak the line under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, P. Sets mouse echo to speak the paragraph under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing the commands in the mouse echo layer.

 


Note: When JAWS 18 and MAGic 13.1 are run together, the current mouse echo settings for MAGic will be ignored in favor of JAWS Mouse Echo speech settings. When exiting JAWS so only MAGic is running, the original mouse echo settings configured in MAGic will be used. In addition, if MAGic's Mouse Line Lock feature is enabled, the mouse line lock functionality in JAWS is disabled.

 

Improvements with JAWS Touch Support

 

JAWS 18 offers improved performance when using a touch screen device, such as the Surface Pro tablet from Microsoft, as well as tablets with smaller screens. You will experience greater accuracy and responsiveness as you perform various touch gestures including continuously moving a finger around the screen to explore. You can also now perform Windows gestures without the need to first exit JAWS. The new four-finger rotate gesture causes the next gesture to be passed directly to Windows; similar to the Pass Key Through command (INSERT+3). Performing a five-finger rotate gesture will now disable all JAWS gestures, except the four and five-finger rotate gestures, so you can use Windows gestures until you perform another five-finger rotate to reenable the JAWS gestures.

 

While this JAWS 18 public beta offers significant improvements to touch, there are still some instances where using touch is still difficult, such as typing your password on the Windows Login screen and using the ALT+TAB list to move between apps. These items, along with other issues we have identified, will be addressed in the next public beta.

 

Refer to the Overview of JAWS Touch Support document for more information and to review all the available JAWS gestures.

 

Launch JAWS on Tablets Using Hardware Buttons

 

You can configure the Windows and Volume Up buttons on a tablet to start JAWS instead of Narrator when these buttons are pressed simultaneously. This is done through the Ease of Access Center in Windows by doing the following:
1.Open the Start menu, type "ease of access", and then press ENTER to open the Ease of Access Center.
2.Navigate to the "Make Touch and Tablets Easier to Use" link and press ENTER.
3.In the Accessibility Tools combo box, select JAWS 18.
4.Choose OK, and then close the Ease of Access Center.

 

The next time you are in a situation where JAWS is not running, you can press the Windows and Volume Up buttons together to quickly launch it from anywhere in Windows. If you are on the Secure Destktop or Windows Login screen, these hardware buttons will always launch Narrator. However, once you are logged in, these buttons will now start JAWS 18.

 

Changes to Sentence Navigation Keystrokes in the Desktop Keyboard Layout

 

In the JAWS Desktop Keyboard Layout, pressing ALT+DOWN ARROW or ALT+UP ARROW moves to the next or prior sentence, or opens and closes combo boxes. In addition, some applications also use these keystrokes to perform their own specific functions which means JAWS users need to first press INSERT+3 to pass these keystrokes through to the application so they work correctly. For instance, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW are used in the attachments area in Microsoft Outlook 2016 to open and close the list of actions you can perform with the selected attachment.

 

To avoid potential conflicts, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW in the desktop keyboard layout will now only move by sentence in Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, the message area in Microsoft Outlook, and when using the Virtual Cursor unless focused on a combo box. If you want sentence navigation to work in other applications, you can use the Keyboard Manager to reassign the Say Next Sentence and Say Prior Sentence commands, or switch to the laptop keyboard layout and use CAPS LOCK+N and CAPS LOCK+Y to move by sentence.

 

To assign new keystrokes for sentence navigation, do the following:
1.Press INSERT+F2 and select Keyboard Manager.
2.Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default key map file.
3.Press TAB to move to the list view and locate the "SayNextSentence" script.
4.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view.
5.Locate the "SayPriorSentence" script.
6.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view, and then press ALT+F4 to close the Keyboard Manager.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


Re: Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Try back space plus space followed by t.

Kimsan Song
kimsansong@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

All,

I have my BrailleSense connected to Jaws as a braille display.
However, I cannot seem to access the "BrailleIn' feature that the manual describes in order to type into documents. At the moment when I type lettersthey perform different functions rather than inserting text into the document. Anyone know how to go about getting this to work?


Reading Text Captions in Youtube Videos

 

Does anyone know how to get Jaws to read text on the screen in YouTube
videos? I like to watch this guy's reviews, but he puts text on the
screen rather than speaking, and all you hear is silence in between
the clips he reviews. I tried to turn on closed captions/subtitles,
but it only read the part I could already hear, very slowly, and
didn't do anything with the text. The link to one of his videos is
here. I do have to warn you, though, that this is a review of British
PSA's, and they are pretty creepy, so if you get disturbed easily you
might not want to watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaUVFGpjTUM
Thanks in advance for your help.


Re: Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

kelby carlson
 

No, quick keys is off by default. Turning it on didn't change anything, though.

On 9/8/16, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you in word with quick keys (insert z) turned on?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: September 8, 2016 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

All,

I have my BrailleSense connected to Jaws as a braille display.
However, I cannot seem to access the "BrailleIn' feature that the manual
describes in order to type into documents. At the moment when I type
lettersthey perform different functions rather than inserting text into the
document. Anyone know how to go about getting this to work?








Re: Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Are you in word with quick keys (insert z) turned on?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: September 8, 2016 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

All,

I have my BrailleSense connected to Jaws as a braille display.
However, I cannot seem to access the "BrailleIn' feature that the manual describes in order to type into documents. At the moment when I type lettersthey perform different functions rather than inserting text into the document. Anyone know how to go about getting this to work?


Re: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

Maria Campbell
 

Agree.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, hunanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama
On 9/8/2016 2:20 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

Man, what a yawner to burn  an  SMA on. Oh well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

 

Hi All,

 

Below you'll find the direct download links & what's new for Beta Jaws 18.

 

FS Public Beta Website:

 

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 

New Features Added in JAWS 18

 

The following features are new to JAWS 18. For more information and complete demonstrations, go to the FSCast web page and listen to episode 131.

 

Migrate Settings from Prior Versions of JAWS

 

We have reintroduced the ability for users to merge all user customized settings from the prior version of JAWS into the latest version. This includes any application and default settings, scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles. When JAWS 18 first starts after an install and it detects that there are custom user settings for JAWS 17 available, you will be asked if you want to migrate these settings to the current version of JAWS. Choose Yes to migrate your settings from JAWS 17, or choose No to start with the default settings in JAWS 18 and launch the Startup Wizard.

 

Once the settings have been migrated, a dialog box opens where you can configure the JAWS startup options. This dialog box contains the same options found in the Start JAWS Options dialog box, which is accessed from the JAWS window by opening the Options menu, Selecting Options, and then choosing the Automatically Start JAWS button. Once you have confirmed how you want JAWS to start, choose OK to save and close the dialog box.

 


Note: Due to significant changes to the settings file structure prior to JAWS 17, custom user settings can not be migrated from versions of JAWS older than version 17.

 

Completely New Import and Export for JAWS Customized User Settings

 

JAWS 18 now enables you to quickly and conveniently export all of your JAWS user settings including application and default settings, custom scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles to a single backup file which can be stored or shared with other JAWS users. The JAWS settings backup files are saved with an SBAK extension. This backup file can then be easily imported on any computer running JAWS 18 or later and these settings will be used by that copy of JAWS.

 

To export settings to an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Export Settings. The Export Settings wizard opens and guides you through exporting your settings. During this process, you can choose to export all user settings, or select specific settings to export. By default, the SBAK file is saved to the Desktop using the name JAWS<Version Number>SettingsBackup (where Version Number is the JAWS version currently running when using the export feature). You can specify a different location and file name if necessary, as well as add optional comments to provide more information about why you are creating the backup. Once the export is complete, the SBAK file containing your settings can be shared with other JAWS users through email or a file sharing service such as Dropbox, or stored on a USB flash drive.

 

To import JAWS settings from an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Import Settings. The Import User Settings wizard opens and guides you through importing the settings. By default, the import will merge the settings from the backup file with existing user settings and if a setting in the user folder conflicts with a setting from the backup file, it will be replaced by the setting from the backup. However, you can also choose to simply replace all current settings in the user folder with the contents of the backup or, when merging and there is a settings conflict, you can choose to keep the current setting.

 

During the settings import, the current settings in your user folder are automatically backed up. If you find that the settings that were imported from the SBAK file are not working as expected, you can restore the previous settings. To restore, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Restore Settings. The Restore Settings dialog box opens where you can select the backup file to restore. Choose the Restore button to replace the current settings in your JAWS user folder with the settings from the backup.

 

Some instances of when you might use this feature include:
•You want to use the same JAWS settings on multiple computers, such as in a training center or school computer lab.
•You create a lot of customizations and you want to be able to back them up so you can easily import them when you install a new version of JAWS, elliminating the task of having to manually reconfigure everything.
•A friend would like to use some of your flexible web rules and voice profiles. You could use the Export Settings wizard to only export these particular settings, send the resulting SBAK file to your friend, and if they are running JAWS 18 or later, they can import the file containing your flexible web rules and voice profiles into their copy of JAWS.
•A script developer could send you a SBAK file containing custom scripts and settings for an application that is used at your job and the Import Settings wizard will quickly import all settings and script files to the correct locations in your JAWS user folder.

 

Restrict Virtual Cursor in Web-Based dialog boxes

 

If a dialog box appears on a web page as a result of an action such as activating a specific control, which can occur especially on pages that are part of a web-based application, JAWS now restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box. Sometimes, depending on how the web application is implemented, when focus moves into these dialog boxes, the content of the surrounding page is hidden until focus moves out of the dialog box. However, in many instances, the dialog content merges with the surrounding page which can be confusing especially when you only want to focus on the content in the web dialog box.

 

JAWS automatically restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box when some action occurs that moves the focus into that dialog box. This includes navigating to an edit field in the dialog box with the ARROW keys and Auto Forms mode is enabled, navigating using the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys, or activating a control on the page that automatically sets focus to the dialog box. When the Virtual Cursor is restricted, both speech and braille will only navigate content in the dialog box until restriction is disabled. The Virtual Cursor will be automatically unrestricted if you use the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys to move focus away from the dialog box, or you perform an action in the dialog box that causes focus to be moved to another part of the page, or a completely new page loads.

 

You can also use the INSERT+R keystroke when focused in a web dialog box to manually toggle the Virtual Cursor between restricted and unrestricted. For instance, you may wish to unrestrict the Virtual Cursor to review page content outside of the dialog box without moving focus.

 


Note: In some web applications, surrounding page content is hidden when a dialog box is in focus, so unrestricting the Virtual Cursor to view content outside the dialog box will not always work in these situations.

 

New Speech Option as You Move the Physical Mouse Around the Screen

 

The new mouse echo feature enables JAWS to speak text under the mouse pointer as you move around the screen using a physical mouse or as you move your finger on a trackpad. If you use a refreshable braille display, text under the mouse is also shown in braille as a flash message.

 

While totally blind users may not benefit very much from this feature, there are some cases where it can be useful. For example, there may be times where someone is trying to understand the positioning of text or the layout of controls on the screen, and this could be helpful. You also may encounter applications that have controls that can not be accessed with any of the JAWS cursors and you must use the physical mouse to locate and activate them.

 

For users that have some vision, the ability to also receive speech feedback as they move the physical mouse is very useful. There are also more improvements coming for those who use both MAGic and JAWS together.

 

If you find that you struggle to keep the mouse in a straight line when moving vertically or horrizontally, press and hold the INSERT key (or CAPSLOCK key in Laptop layout) as you move the mouse in a specific direction to lock the mouse pointer to that position. For example, if you locate a menu bar or group of buttons you would like to explore, you could press and hold INSERT as you move the mouse to the right. If you accidentally move slightly up or down, the mouse pointer remains locked to the current position.

 

Mouse echo is off by default. To turn it on, open Settings Center, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file, expand the mouse echo group, and then press the SPACEBAR on Enable Mouse Echo. You can also configure the following:
•Choose whether or not JAWS interrupts speech as you move the mouse pointer over text. By default, JAWS speaks the new text moved to with the mouse regardless of what is currently being spoken.
•Specify the length of time JAWS waits before speaking the text at the location of the mouse pointer. If you move the mouse pointer away before the delay has elapsed, JAWS does not read the text. By default there is no delay which means text is read while the mouse is in motion so you do not have to pause to hear the text under the mouse.
•Select the unit of text (character, word, line, or paragraph) you want to hear when the mouse pointer pauses over text in a control. By default, JAWS reads the current line of text under the mouse. This means that if you move the mouse pointer into the document area of an application such as Microsoft Word, JAWS will read the line of text under the mouse. As you continue moving the mouse around the edit control, JAWS will read other lines from the document. If the control cannot provide the requested unit of text, then JAWS will read all of the text provided by the control. For example, if you move the mouse into the edit control of the Windows 10 Sticky Notes app, JAWS will read the entire contents of the edit field instead of the specified unit of text.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks descriptive information provided by the control that contains the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. Note that descriptive text is not always available. The default is to not speak this information.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks the control type and state of the control containing the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. The default is to speak control information.

 

Alternatively, the following layered keystrokes are available to control mouse echo:
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, O. Toggles mouse echo on or off.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, C. Sets mouse echo to speak the character under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, W. Sets mouse echo to speak the word under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, L. Sets mouse echo to speak the line under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, P. Sets mouse echo to speak the paragraph under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing the commands in the mouse echo layer.

 


Note: When JAWS 18 and MAGic 13.1 are run together, the current mouse echo settings for MAGic will be ignored in favor of JAWS Mouse Echo speech settings. When exiting JAWS so only MAGic is running, the original mouse echo settings configured in MAGic will be used. In addition, if MAGic's Mouse Line Lock feature is enabled, the mouse line lock functionality in JAWS is disabled.

 

Improvements with JAWS Touch Support

 

JAWS 18 offers improved performance when using a touch screen device, such as the Surface Pro tablet from Microsoft, as well as tablets with smaller screens. You will experience greater accuracy and responsiveness as you perform various touch gestures including continuously moving a finger around the screen to explore. You can also now perform Windows gestures without the need to first exit JAWS. The new four-finger rotate gesture causes the next gesture to be passed directly to Windows; similar to the Pass Key Through command (INSERT+3). Performing a five-finger rotate gesture will now disable all JAWS gestures, except the four and five-finger rotate gestures, so you can use Windows gestures until you perform another five-finger rotate to reenable the JAWS gestures.

 

While this JAWS 18 public beta offers significant improvements to touch, there are still some instances where using touch is still difficult, such as typing your password on the Windows Login screen and using the ALT+TAB list to move between apps. These items, along with other issues we have identified, will be addressed in the next public beta.

 

Refer to the Overview of JAWS Touch Support document for more information and to review all the available JAWS gestures.

 

Launch JAWS on Tablets Using Hardware Buttons

 

You can configure the Windows and Volume Up buttons on a tablet to start JAWS instead of Narrator when these buttons are pressed simultaneously. This is done through the Ease of Access Center in Windows by doing the following:
1.Open the Start menu, type "ease of access", and then press ENTER to open the Ease of Access Center.
2.Navigate to the "Make Touch and Tablets Easier to Use" link and press ENTER.
3.In the Accessibility Tools combo box, select JAWS 18.
4.Choose OK, and then close the Ease of Access Center.

 

The next time you are in a situation where JAWS is not running, you can press the Windows and Volume Up buttons together to quickly launch it from anywhere in Windows. If you are on the Secure Destktop or Windows Login screen, these hardware buttons will always launch Narrator. However, once you are logged in, these buttons will now start JAWS 18.

 

Changes to Sentence Navigation Keystrokes in the Desktop Keyboard Layout

 

In the JAWS Desktop Keyboard Layout, pressing ALT+DOWN ARROW or ALT+UP ARROW moves to the next or prior sentence, or opens and closes combo boxes. In addition, some applications also use these keystrokes to perform their own specific functions which means JAWS users need to first press INSERT+3 to pass these keystrokes through to the application so they work correctly. For instance, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW are used in the attachments area in Microsoft Outlook 2016 to open and close the list of actions you can perform with the selected attachment.

 

To avoid potential conflicts, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW in the desktop keyboard layout will now only move by sentence in Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, the message area in Microsoft Outlook, and when using the Virtual Cursor unless focused on a combo box. If you want sentence navigation to work in other applications, you can use the Keyboard Manager to reassign the Say Next Sentence and Say Prior Sentence commands, or switch to the laptop keyboard layout and use CAPS LOCK+N and CAPS LOCK+Y to move by sentence.

 

To assign new keystrokes for sentence navigation, do the following:
1.Press INSERT+F2 and select Keyboard Manager.
2.Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default key map file.
3.Press TAB to move to the list view and locate the "SayNextSentence" script.
4.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view.
5.Locate the "SayPriorSentence" script.
6.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view, and then press ALT+F4 to close the Keyboard Manager.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!



Re: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

Cristóbal
 

Man, what a yawner to burn  an  SMA on. Oh well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

 

Hi All,

 

Below you'll find the direct download links & what's new for Beta Jaws 18.

 

FS Public Beta Website:

 

 

32 Bit:

 

 

64 Bit:

 

 

New Features Added in JAWS 18

 

The following features are new to JAWS 18. For more information and complete demonstrations, go to the FSCast web page and listen to episode 131.

 

Migrate Settings from Prior Versions of JAWS

 

We have reintroduced the ability for users to merge all user customized settings from the prior version of JAWS into the latest version. This includes any application and default settings, scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles. When JAWS 18 first starts after an install and it detects that there are custom user settings for JAWS 17 available, you will be asked if you want to migrate these settings to the current version of JAWS. Choose Yes to migrate your settings from JAWS 17, or choose No to start with the default settings in JAWS 18 and launch the Startup Wizard.

 

Once the settings have been migrated, a dialog box opens where you can configure the JAWS startup options. This dialog box contains the same options found in the Start JAWS Options dialog box, which is accessed from the JAWS window by opening the Options menu, Selecting Options, and then choosing the Automatically Start JAWS button. Once you have confirmed how you want JAWS to start, choose OK to save and close the dialog box.

 


Note: Due to significant changes to the settings file structure prior to JAWS 17, custom user settings can not be migrated from versions of JAWS older than version 17.

 

Completely New Import and Export for JAWS Customized User Settings

 

JAWS 18 now enables you to quickly and conveniently export all of your JAWS user settings including application and default settings, custom scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles to a single backup file which can be stored or shared with other JAWS users. The JAWS settings backup files are saved with an SBAK extension. This backup file can then be easily imported on any computer running JAWS 18 or later and these settings will be used by that copy of JAWS.

 

To export settings to an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Export Settings. The Export Settings wizard opens and guides you through exporting your settings. During this process, you can choose to export all user settings, or select specific settings to export. By default, the SBAK file is saved to the Desktop using the name JAWS<Version Number>SettingsBackup (where Version Number is the JAWS version currently running when using the export feature). You can specify a different location and file name if necessary, as well as add optional comments to provide more information about why you are creating the backup. Once the export is complete, the SBAK file containing your settings can be shared with other JAWS users through email or a file sharing service such as Dropbox, or stored on a USB flash drive.

 

To import JAWS settings from an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Import Settings. The Import User Settings wizard opens and guides you through importing the settings. By default, the import will merge the settings from the backup file with existing user settings and if a setting in the user folder conflicts with a setting from the backup file, it will be replaced by the setting from the backup. However, you can also choose to simply replace all current settings in the user folder with the contents of the backup or, when merging and there is a settings conflict, you can choose to keep the current setting.

 

During the settings import, the current settings in your user folder are automatically backed up. If you find that the settings that were imported from the SBAK file are not working as expected, you can restore the previous settings. To restore, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Restore Settings. The Restore Settings dialog box opens where you can select the backup file to restore. Choose the Restore button to replace the current settings in your JAWS user folder with the settings from the backup.

 

Some instances of when you might use this feature include:
•You want to use the same JAWS settings on multiple computers, such as in a training center or school computer lab.
•You create a lot of customizations and you want to be able to back them up so you can easily import them when you install a new version of JAWS, elliminating the task of having to manually reconfigure everything.
•A friend would like to use some of your flexible web rules and voice profiles. You could use the Export Settings wizard to only export these particular settings, send the resulting SBAK file to your friend, and if they are running JAWS 18 or later, they can import the file containing your flexible web rules and voice profiles into their copy of JAWS.
•A script developer could send you a SBAK file containing custom scripts and settings for an application that is used at your job and the Import Settings wizard will quickly import all settings and script files to the correct locations in your JAWS user folder.

 

Restrict Virtual Cursor in Web-Based dialog boxes

 

If a dialog box appears on a web page as a result of an action such as activating a specific control, which can occur especially on pages that are part of a web-based application, JAWS now restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box. Sometimes, depending on how the web application is implemented, when focus moves into these dialog boxes, the content of the surrounding page is hidden until focus moves out of the dialog box. However, in many instances, the dialog content merges with the surrounding page which can be confusing especially when you only want to focus on the content in the web dialog box.

 

JAWS automatically restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box when some action occurs that moves the focus into that dialog box. This includes navigating to an edit field in the dialog box with the ARROW keys and Auto Forms mode is enabled, navigating using the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys, or activating a control on the page that automatically sets focus to the dialog box. When the Virtual Cursor is restricted, both speech and braille will only navigate content in the dialog box until restriction is disabled. The Virtual Cursor will be automatically unrestricted if you use the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys to move focus away from the dialog box, or you perform an action in the dialog box that causes focus to be moved to another part of the page, or a completely new page loads.

 

You can also use the INSERT+R keystroke when focused in a web dialog box to manually toggle the Virtual Cursor between restricted and unrestricted. For instance, you may wish to unrestrict the Virtual Cursor to review page content outside of the dialog box without moving focus.

 


Note: In some web applications, surrounding page content is hidden when a dialog box is in focus, so unrestricting the Virtual Cursor to view content outside the dialog box will not always work in these situations.

 

New Speech Option as You Move the Physical Mouse Around the Screen

 

The new mouse echo feature enables JAWS to speak text under the mouse pointer as you move around the screen using a physical mouse or as you move your finger on a trackpad. If you use a refreshable braille display, text under the mouse is also shown in braille as a flash message.

 

While totally blind users may not benefit very much from this feature, there are some cases where it can be useful. For example, there may be times where someone is trying to understand the positioning of text or the layout of controls on the screen, and this could be helpful. You also may encounter applications that have controls that can not be accessed with any of the JAWS cursors and you must use the physical mouse to locate and activate them.

 

For users that have some vision, the ability to also receive speech feedback as they move the physical mouse is very useful. There are also more improvements coming for those who use both MAGic and JAWS together.

 

If you find that you struggle to keep the mouse in a straight line when moving vertically or horrizontally, press and hold the INSERT key (or CAPSLOCK key in Laptop layout) as you move the mouse in a specific direction to lock the mouse pointer to that position. For example, if you locate a menu bar or group of buttons you would like to explore, you could press and hold INSERT as you move the mouse to the right. If you accidentally move slightly up or down, the mouse pointer remains locked to the current position.

 

Mouse echo is off by default. To turn it on, open Settings Center, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file, expand the mouse echo group, and then press the SPACEBAR on Enable Mouse Echo. You can also configure the following:
•Choose whether or not JAWS interrupts speech as you move the mouse pointer over text. By default, JAWS speaks the new text moved to with the mouse regardless of what is currently being spoken.
•Specify the length of time JAWS waits before speaking the text at the location of the mouse pointer. If you move the mouse pointer away before the delay has elapsed, JAWS does not read the text. By default there is no delay which means text is read while the mouse is in motion so you do not have to pause to hear the text under the mouse.
•Select the unit of text (character, word, line, or paragraph) you want to hear when the mouse pointer pauses over text in a control. By default, JAWS reads the current line of text under the mouse. This means that if you move the mouse pointer into the document area of an application such as Microsoft Word, JAWS will read the line of text under the mouse. As you continue moving the mouse around the edit control, JAWS will read other lines from the document. If the control cannot provide the requested unit of text, then JAWS will read all of the text provided by the control. For example, if you move the mouse into the edit control of the Windows 10 Sticky Notes app, JAWS will read the entire contents of the edit field instead of the specified unit of text.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks descriptive information provided by the control that contains the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. Note that descriptive text is not always available. The default is to not speak this information.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks the control type and state of the control containing the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. The default is to speak control information.

 

Alternatively, the following layered keystrokes are available to control mouse echo:
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, O. Toggles mouse echo on or off.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, C. Sets mouse echo to speak the character under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, W. Sets mouse echo to speak the word under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, L. Sets mouse echo to speak the line under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, P. Sets mouse echo to speak the paragraph under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing the commands in the mouse echo layer.

 


Note: When JAWS 18 and MAGic 13.1 are run together, the current mouse echo settings for MAGic will be ignored in favor of JAWS Mouse Echo speech settings. When exiting JAWS so only MAGic is running, the original mouse echo settings configured in MAGic will be used. In addition, if MAGic's Mouse Line Lock feature is enabled, the mouse line lock functionality in JAWS is disabled.

 

Improvements with JAWS Touch Support

 

JAWS 18 offers improved performance when using a touch screen device, such as the Surface Pro tablet from Microsoft, as well as tablets with smaller screens. You will experience greater accuracy and responsiveness as you perform various touch gestures including continuously moving a finger around the screen to explore. You can also now perform Windows gestures without the need to first exit JAWS. The new four-finger rotate gesture causes the next gesture to be passed directly to Windows; similar to the Pass Key Through command (INSERT+3). Performing a five-finger rotate gesture will now disable all JAWS gestures, except the four and five-finger rotate gestures, so you can use Windows gestures until you perform another five-finger rotate to reenable the JAWS gestures.

 

While this JAWS 18 public beta offers significant improvements to touch, there are still some instances where using touch is still difficult, such as typing your password on the Windows Login screen and using the ALT+TAB list to move between apps. These items, along with other issues we have identified, will be addressed in the next public beta.

 

Refer to the Overview of JAWS Touch Support document for more information and to review all the available JAWS gestures.

 

Launch JAWS on Tablets Using Hardware Buttons

 

You can configure the Windows and Volume Up buttons on a tablet to start JAWS instead of Narrator when these buttons are pressed simultaneously. This is done through the Ease of Access Center in Windows by doing the following:
1.Open the Start menu, type "ease of access", and then press ENTER to open the Ease of Access Center.
2.Navigate to the "Make Touch and Tablets Easier to Use" link and press ENTER.
3.In the Accessibility Tools combo box, select JAWS 18.
4.Choose OK, and then close the Ease of Access Center.

 

The next time you are in a situation where JAWS is not running, you can press the Windows and Volume Up buttons together to quickly launch it from anywhere in Windows. If you are on the Secure Destktop or Windows Login screen, these hardware buttons will always launch Narrator. However, once you are logged in, these buttons will now start JAWS 18.

 

Changes to Sentence Navigation Keystrokes in the Desktop Keyboard Layout

 

In the JAWS Desktop Keyboard Layout, pressing ALT+DOWN ARROW or ALT+UP ARROW moves to the next or prior sentence, or opens and closes combo boxes. In addition, some applications also use these keystrokes to perform their own specific functions which means JAWS users need to first press INSERT+3 to pass these keystrokes through to the application so they work correctly. For instance, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW are used in the attachments area in Microsoft Outlook 2016 to open and close the list of actions you can perform with the selected attachment.

 

To avoid potential conflicts, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW in the desktop keyboard layout will now only move by sentence in Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, the message area in Microsoft Outlook, and when using the Virtual Cursor unless focused on a combo box. If you want sentence navigation to work in other applications, you can use the Keyboard Manager to reassign the Say Next Sentence and Say Prior Sentence commands, or switch to the laptop keyboard layout and use CAPS LOCK+N and CAPS LOCK+Y to move by sentence.

 

To assign new keystrokes for sentence navigation, do the following:
1.Press INSERT+F2 and select Keyboard Manager.
2.Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default key map file.
3.Press TAB to move to the list view and locate the "SayNextSentence" script.
4.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view.
5.Locate the "SayPriorSentence" script.
6.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view, and then press ALT+F4 to close the Keyboard Manager.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


Typing on the BrailleSense with JAWS

kelby carlson
 

All,

I have my BrailleSense connected to Jaws as a braille display.
However, I cannot seem to access the "BrailleIn' feature that the
manual describes in order to type into documents. At the moment when I
type lettersthey perform different functions rather than inserting
text into the document. Anyone know how to go about getting this to
work?


Download Links & What's New In Public Beta Jaws 18

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Below you'll find the direct download links & what's new for Beta Jaws 18.
 
FS Public Beta Website:
 
 
32 Bit:
 
 
64 Bit:
 
 
New Features Added in JAWS 18
 
The following features are new to JAWS 18. For more information and complete demonstrations, go to the FSCast web page and listen to episode 131.
 
Migrate Settings from Prior Versions of JAWS
 
We have reintroduced the ability for users to merge all user customized settings from the prior version of JAWS into the latest version. This includes any application and default settings, scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles. When JAWS 18 first starts after an install and it detects that there are custom user settings for JAWS 17 available, you will be asked if you want to migrate these settings to the current version of JAWS. Choose Yes to migrate your settings from JAWS 17, or choose No to start with the default settings in JAWS 18 and launch the Startup Wizard.
 
Once the settings have been migrated, a dialog box opens where you can configure the JAWS startup options. This dialog box contains the same options found in the Start JAWS Options dialog box, which is accessed from the JAWS window by opening the Options menu, Selecting Options, and then choosing the Automatically Start JAWS button. Once you have confirmed how you want JAWS to start, choose OK to save and close the dialog box.
 

Note: Due to significant changes to the settings file structure prior to JAWS 17, custom user settings can not be migrated from versions of JAWS older than version 17.
 
Completely New Import and Export for JAWS Customized User Settings
 
JAWS 18 now enables you to quickly and conveniently export all of your JAWS user settings including application and default settings, custom scripts, dictionary entries, graphics labels, PlaceMarkers, flexible web rules, personalized web settings including custom labels, speech and sounds schemes, and voice profiles to a single backup file which can be stored or shared with other JAWS users. The JAWS settings backup files are saved with an SBAK extension. This backup file can then be easily imported on any computer running JAWS 18 or later and these settings will be used by that copy of JAWS.
 
To export settings to an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Export Settings. The Export Settings wizard opens and guides you through exporting your settings. During this process, you can choose to export all user settings, or select specific settings to export. By default, the SBAK file is saved to the Desktop using the name JAWS<Version Number>SettingsBackup (where Version Number is the JAWS version currently running when using the export feature). You can specify a different location and file name if necessary, as well as add optional comments to provide more information about why you are creating the backup. Once the export is complete, the SBAK file containing your settings can be shared with other JAWS users through email or a file sharing service such as Dropbox, or stored on a USB flash drive.
 
To import JAWS settings from an SBAK file, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Import Settings. The Import User Settings wizard opens and guides you through importing the settings. By default, the import will merge the settings from the backup file with existing user settings and if a setting in the user folder conflicts with a setting from the backup file, it will be replaced by the setting from the backup. However, you can also choose to simply replace all current settings in the user folder with the contents of the backup or, when merging and there is a settings conflict, you can choose to keep the current setting.
 
During the settings import, the current settings in your user folder are automatically backed up. If you find that the settings that were imported from the SBAK file are not working as expected, you can restore the previous settings. To restore, open the Utilities menu located in the JAWS application window, open the Import/Export menu, and select Restore Settings. The Restore Settings dialog box opens where you can select the backup file to restore. Choose the Restore button to replace the current settings in your JAWS user folder with the settings from the backup.
 
Some instances of when you might use this feature include:
•You want to use the same JAWS settings on multiple computers, such as in a training center or school computer lab.
•You create a lot of customizations and you want to be able to back them up so you can easily import them when you install a new version of JAWS, elliminating the task of having to manually reconfigure everything.
•A friend would like to use some of your flexible web rules and voice profiles. You could use the Export Settings wizard to only export these particular settings, send the resulting SBAK file to your friend, and if they are running JAWS 18 or later, they can import the file containing your flexible web rules and voice profiles into their copy of JAWS.
•A script developer could send you a SBAK file containing custom scripts and settings for an application that is used at your job and the Import Settings wizard will quickly import all settings and script files to the correct locations in your JAWS user folder.
 
Restrict Virtual Cursor in Web-Based dialog boxes
 
If a dialog box appears on a web page as a result of an action such as activating a specific control, which can occur especially on pages that are part of a web-based application, JAWS now restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box. Sometimes, depending on how the web application is implemented, when focus moves into these dialog boxes, the content of the surrounding page is hidden until focus moves out of the dialog box. However, in many instances, the dialog content merges with the surrounding page which can be confusing especially when you only want to focus on the content in the web dialog box.
 
JAWS automatically restricts Virtual Cursor navigation to the dialog box when some action occurs that moves the focus into that dialog box. This includes navigating to an edit field in the dialog box with the ARROW keys and Auto Forms mode is enabled, navigating using the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys, or activating a control on the page that automatically sets focus to the dialog box. When the Virtual Cursor is restricted, both speech and braille will only navigate content in the dialog box until restriction is disabled. The Virtual Cursor will be automatically unrestricted if you use the TAB or SHIFT+TAB keys to move focus away from the dialog box, or you perform an action in the dialog box that causes focus to be moved to another part of the page, or a completely new page loads.
 
You can also use the INSERT+R keystroke when focused in a web dialog box to manually toggle the Virtual Cursor between restricted and unrestricted. For instance, you may wish to unrestrict the Virtual Cursor to review page content outside of the dialog box without moving focus.
 

Note: In some web applications, surrounding page content is hidden when a dialog box is in focus, so unrestricting the Virtual Cursor to view content outside the dialog box will not always work in these situations.
 
New Speech Option as You Move the Physical Mouse Around the Screen
 
The new mouse echo feature enables JAWS to speak text under the mouse pointer as you move around the screen using a physical mouse or as you move your finger on a trackpad. If you use a refreshable braille display, text under the mouse is also shown in braille as a flash message.
 
While totally blind users may not benefit very much from this feature, there are some cases where it can be useful. For example, there may be times where someone is trying to understand the positioning of text or the layout of controls on the screen, and this could be helpful. You also may encounter applications that have controls that can not be accessed with any of the JAWS cursors and you must use the physical mouse to locate and activate them.
 
For users that have some vision, the ability to also receive speech feedback as they move the physical mouse is very useful. There are also more improvements coming for those who use both MAGic and JAWS together.
 
If you find that you struggle to keep the mouse in a straight line when moving vertically or horrizontally, press and hold the INSERT key (or CAPSLOCK key in Laptop layout) as you move the mouse in a specific direction to lock the mouse pointer to that position. For example, if you locate a menu bar or group of buttons you would like to explore, you could press and hold INSERT as you move the mouse to the right. If you accidentally move slightly up or down, the mouse pointer remains locked to the current position.
 
Mouse echo is off by default. To turn it on, open Settings Center, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file, expand the mouse echo group, and then press the SPACEBAR on Enable Mouse Echo. You can also configure the following:
•Choose whether or not JAWS interrupts speech as you move the mouse pointer over text. By default, JAWS speaks the new text moved to with the mouse regardless of what is currently being spoken.
•Specify the length of time JAWS waits before speaking the text at the location of the mouse pointer. If you move the mouse pointer away before the delay has elapsed, JAWS does not read the text. By default there is no delay which means text is read while the mouse is in motion so you do not have to pause to hear the text under the mouse.
•Select the unit of text (character, word, line, or paragraph) you want to hear when the mouse pointer pauses over text in a control. By default, JAWS reads the current line of text under the mouse. This means that if you move the mouse pointer into the document area of an application such as Microsoft Word, JAWS will read the line of text under the mouse. As you continue moving the mouse around the edit control, JAWS will read other lines from the document. If the control cannot provide the requested unit of text, then JAWS will read all of the text provided by the control. For example, if you move the mouse into the edit control of the Windows 10 Sticky Notes app, JAWS will read the entire contents of the edit field instead of the specified unit of text.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks descriptive information provided by the control that contains the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. Note that descriptive text is not always available. The default is to not speak this information.
•Choose whether or not JAWS speaks the control type and state of the control containing the text at the mouse pointer. This information will be spoken after the text at the mouse pointer is spoken. The default is to speak control information.
 
Alternatively, the following layered keystrokes are available to control mouse echo:
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, O. Toggles mouse echo on or off.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, C. Sets mouse echo to speak the character under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, W. Sets mouse echo to speak the word under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, L. Sets mouse echo to speak the line under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, P. Sets mouse echo to speak the paragraph under the mouse pointer in controls that support navigating by units of text.
•INSERT+SPACEBAR, E, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing the commands in the mouse echo layer.
 

Note: When JAWS 18 and MAGic 13.1 are run together, the current mouse echo settings for MAGic will be ignored in favor of JAWS Mouse Echo speech settings. When exiting JAWS so only MAGic is running, the original mouse echo settings configured in MAGic will be used. In addition, if MAGic's Mouse Line Lock feature is enabled, the mouse line lock functionality in JAWS is disabled.
 
Improvements with JAWS Touch Support
 
JAWS 18 offers improved performance when using a touch screen device, such as the Surface Pro tablet from Microsoft, as well as tablets with smaller screens. You will experience greater accuracy and responsiveness as you perform various touch gestures including continuously moving a finger around the screen to explore. You can also now perform Windows gestures without the need to first exit JAWS. The new four-finger rotate gesture causes the next gesture to be passed directly to Windows; similar to the Pass Key Through command (INSERT+3). Performing a five-finger rotate gesture will now disable all JAWS gestures, except the four and five-finger rotate gestures, so you can use Windows gestures until you perform another five-finger rotate to reenable the JAWS gestures.
 
While this JAWS 18 public beta offers significant improvements to touch, there are still some instances where using touch is still difficult, such as typing your password on the Windows Login screen and using the ALT+TAB list to move between apps. These items, along with other issues we have identified, will be addressed in the next public beta.
 
Refer to the Overview of JAWS Touch Support document for more information and to review all the available JAWS gestures.
 
Launch JAWS on Tablets Using Hardware Buttons
 
You can configure the Windows and Volume Up buttons on a tablet to start JAWS instead of Narrator when these buttons are pressed simultaneously. This is done through the Ease of Access Center in Windows by doing the following:
1.Open the Start menu, type "ease of access", and then press ENTER to open the Ease of Access Center.
2.Navigate to the "Make Touch and Tablets Easier to Use" link and press ENTER.
3.In the Accessibility Tools combo box, select JAWS 18.
4.Choose OK, and then close the Ease of Access Center.
 
The next time you are in a situation where JAWS is not running, you can press the Windows and Volume Up buttons together to quickly launch it from anywhere in Windows. If you are on the Secure Destktop or Windows Login screen, these hardware buttons will always launch Narrator. However, once you are logged in, these buttons will now start JAWS 18.
 
Changes to Sentence Navigation Keystrokes in the Desktop Keyboard Layout
 
In the JAWS Desktop Keyboard Layout, pressing ALT+DOWN ARROW or ALT+UP ARROW moves to the next or prior sentence, or opens and closes combo boxes. In addition, some applications also use these keystrokes to perform their own specific functions which means JAWS users need to first press INSERT+3 to pass these keystrokes through to the application so they work correctly. For instance, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW are used in the attachments area in Microsoft Outlook 2016 to open and close the list of actions you can perform with the selected attachment.
 
To avoid potential conflicts, ALT+DOWN ARROW and ALT+UP ARROW in the desktop keyboard layout will now only move by sentence in Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, the message area in Microsoft Outlook, and when using the Virtual Cursor unless focused on a combo box. If you want sentence navigation to work in other applications, you can use the Keyboard Manager to reassign the Say Next Sentence and Say Prior Sentence commands, or switch to the laptop keyboard layout and use CAPS LOCK+N and CAPS LOCK+Y to move by sentence.
 
To assign new keystrokes for sentence navigation, do the following:
1.Press INSERT+F2 and select Keyboard Manager.
2.Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default key map file.
3.Press TAB to move to the list view and locate the "SayNextSentence" script.
4.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view.
5.Locate the "SayPriorSentence" script.
6.Press CTRL+A to open the Add Keystroke dialog box, press the key combination you want to use, and press ENTER. Press ENTER once more to confirm the change and return to the list view, and then press ALT+F4 to close the Keyboard Manager.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


18.1 Beta Speaker Behavior

Dave Mitchell
 

Hi All:  I note slight speech hesitation and a little speaker pop when 18.1 begins initial speech.  After this noticeable uneven start, most  subsequent speech seems to roll along as has been the case with 17.
I am just wondering if anyone else has noticed  this as, at least to me, it is annoying.  I use the Eloquence voice.  Thanks, Mitch
 
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                               (Henry Haskins)



Re: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Actually, it may take 3 taps of F-6, depending on how many panes are open. I have been successful in Word 2013 in just arrowing out of the footnote, which surprised me because I don't think I could do that in Word 2010.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing footnotes in JAWS

F6 should return you to the document.
At 07:14 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
A related question: once I'm finished typing a new footnote, how do I
go back to the place in the document I was editing?

On 9/8/16, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
Once inside the footnote, editing is no problem, though in large
documents, JAWS sometimes slows to a snail's pace.
If you navigate to the bottom of the page where the footnote is
found, that will put you in the footnote. You can also get their by
searching and finding an item of text found there.
To get rid of a note, navigate to the reference. I use alt + s + o +
n (for
next) or p (for previous. Then, when you find the reference, delete it.



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Aine Kelly
Costello
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Hi all,

How does one edit or delete a previously-written footnote in Word
2013 with JAWS, please? I can make new footnotes for Africa, and I
can read existing ones, but can't work out how to edit/delete them...

I've just joined this group so please excuse me if this has been
asked before.

Many thanks,

Best wishes,

Aine




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Re: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

F6 should return you to the document.

At 07:14 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
A related question: once I'm finished typing a new footnote, how do I
go back to the place in the document I was editing?

On 9/8/16, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
Once inside the footnote, editing is no problem, though in large documents,
JAWS sometimes slows to a snail's pace.
If you navigate to the bottom of the page where the footnote is found, that
will put you in the footnote. You can also get their by searching and
finding an item of text found there.
To get rid of a note, navigate to the reference. I use alt + s + o + n (for
next) or p (for previous. Then, when you find the reference, delete it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Aine Kelly
Costello
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Hi all,

How does one edit or delete a previously-written footnote in Word 2013 with
JAWS, please? I can make new footnotes for Africa, and I can read existing
ones, but can't work out how to edit/delete them...

I've just joined this group so please excuse me if this has been asked
before.

Many thanks,

Best wishes,

Aine




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Re: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

This is from the DeWitt and Associates Word 2010 tutorial:
1. Modifying note text is best done in the View Notes Pane, specifically in the Footnote and Endnote Pane. The View Notes Pane is only visible in Draft View. Turn on Draft View with ALT + CTRL + N.
2. Press ALT + S, then H. The View Notes Dialog Box will open. This dialog box contains two radio buttons: View Endnote Area and View Footnote Area, the latter of which is the default option. Focus will be on the OK Button. TAB to the radio buttons and, using the ARROW Keys, select View Endnote Area. TAB to the OK Button and press SPACEBAR to activate. The View Notes Pane will open. NOTE: When pressing ALT + S, then H, the View Notes Dialog Box will only open if the document contains both footnotes and endnotes such that a choice needs to be made. If the document contains only endnotes or only footnotes, pressing ALT + S, then H will automatically open the View Notes Pane.



1. Press MODIFIER + V to open the Adjust JAWS Options Dialog Box and, using the ARROW Keys, locate the Comments, Footnotes and Endnotes Option. Use SPACEBAR to set the option to "On With Text". Press ENTER. Focus will return to the document.

At 07:14 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote:
A related question: once I'm finished typing a new footnote, how do I
go back to the place in the document I was editing?

On 9/8/16, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
Once inside the footnote, editing is no problem, though in large documents,
JAWS sometimes slows to a snail's pace.
If you navigate to the bottom of the page where the footnote is found, that
will put you in the footnote. You can also get their by searching and
finding an item of text found there.
To get rid of a note, navigate to the reference. I use alt + s + o + n (for
next) or p (for previous. Then, when you find the reference, delete it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Aine Kelly
Costello
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Hi all,

How does one edit or delete a previously-written footnote in Word 2013 with
JAWS, please? I can make new footnotes for Africa, and I can read existing
ones, but can't work out how to edit/delete them...

I've just joined this group so please excuse me if this has been asked
before.

Many thanks,

Best wishes,

Aine




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Re: Editing footnotes in JAWS

kelby carlson
 

A related question: once I'm finished typing a new footnote, how do I
go back to the place in the document I was editing?

On 9/8/16, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
Once inside the footnote, editing is no problem, though in large documents,
JAWS sometimes slows to a snail's pace.
If you navigate to the bottom of the page where the footnote is found, that
will put you in the footnote. You can also get their by searching and
finding an item of text found there.
To get rid of a note, navigate to the reference. I use alt + s + o + n (for
next) or p (for previous. Then, when you find the reference, delete it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Aine Kelly
Costello
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Hi all,

How does one edit or delete a previously-written footnote in Word 2013 with
JAWS, please? I can make new footnotes for Africa, and I can read existing
ones, but can't work out how to edit/delete them...

I've just joined this group so please excuse me if this has been asked
before.

Many thanks,

Best wishes,

Aine




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Re: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Once inside the footnote, editing is no problem, though in large documents, JAWS sometimes slows to a snail's pace.
If you navigate to the bottom of the page where the footnote is found, that will put you in the footnote. You can also get their by searching and finding an item of text found there.
To get rid of a note, navigate to the reference. I use alt + s + o + n (for next) or p (for previous. Then, when you find the reference, delete it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Aine Kelly Costello
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Editing footnotes in JAWS

Hi all,

How does one edit or delete a previously-written footnote in Word 2013 with JAWS, please? I can make new footnotes for Africa, and I can read existing ones, but can't work out how to edit/delete them...

I've just joined this group so please excuse me if this has been asked before.

Many thanks,

Best wishes,

Aine




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Editing footnotes in JAWS

Aine Kelly Costello <ainekc@...>
 

Hi all,

How does one edit or delete a previously-written footnote in Word 2013
with JAWS, please? I can make new footnotes for Africa, and I can read
existing ones, but can't work out how to edit/delete them...

I've just joined this group so please excuse me if this has been asked before.

Many thanks,

Best wishes,

Aine


how to import ms access tables into sql management studio developer 64 bit 2014

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. was wondering, got sql management studio, and created a ms access database, now how to import my access tables into sql management studio, when I try this, and run as admin, get error messages saying the process is running, the files are in another program, but I don’t open them, using sql management studio development 64 bit version. Any tips, links, or is there a script I can run, to get these tables into sql management studio 2014.

Thanks.

 


Re: Notepad/Wordpad

kelby carlson
 

Actually I spoke too soon. Still running into the problem. It only
seems to happen if I open a file through Windows explorer; if I open
it directly in Notepad it's usually fine, though not always.

On 9/7/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Okay, thought so. At least one problem solved.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


Okay, turns out my screen was rotated. We got that straightened out
and it seems to have fixed the Notepad issue. I deleted the Wordpad
configuration file as well, but that problem still remains.

On 9/7/16, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:
Is that in the app data directory?



On 9/7/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In your shared settings folder. Delete any file that has the name
notepad.xxx and wordpad.xxx. There may be more than one with different
extensions.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 05:37 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


What is the best way to delete/restore the original Notepad/Wordpad
scripts?

I'm not sure what has happened; I didn't have this problem until a few
days ago, and I've had the computer for a couple of weeks.

On 9/6/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

You'll need to find your graphics properties, usually from your
desktop,
with nothing selected, and pressing your Applications key (or
Shift+F10).
Look for anything in that menu like NVDIA, or some other graphics card
you
have.

However, first have someone sighted look at your screen to make sure
it's
actually not right-side-up.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all.
Do
you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow
through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.



































Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Dave...
 

Okay, thought so. At least one problem solved.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


Okay, turns out my screen was rotated. We got that straightened out
and it seems to have fixed the Notepad issue. I deleted the Wordpad
configuration file as well, but that problem still remains.

On 9/7/16, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:
Is that in the app data directory?



On 9/7/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In your shared settings folder. Delete any file that has the name
notepad.xxx and wordpad.xxx. There may be more than one with different
extensions.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 05:37 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


What is the best way to delete/restore the original Notepad/Wordpad
scripts?

I'm not sure what has happened; I didn't have this problem until a few
days ago, and I've had the computer for a couple of weeks.

On 9/6/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

You'll need to find your graphics properties, usually from your desktop,
with nothing selected, and pressing your Applications key (or
Shift+F10).
Look for anything in that menu like NVDIA, or some other graphics card
you
have.

However, first have someone sighted look at your screen to make sure
it's
actually not right-side-up.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do
you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow
through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.






























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