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Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Joseph Weakland
 

yes if you use web visum and mozilla firefox

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:35 AM
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Mario
 

Gerald, do you think for those of us who got the signed addon from James
Scholes, that we should now remove and install the one from Mozilla's
depository?

now, it would be great if someone would develop a WebVisum like
extension for Edge, that is if Edge ever becomes accessible.

same thing for Google Chrome.

any input from others are welcome to comment.

From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 1:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and approved by
Firefox, I missed it!

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Gerald Levy
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?





To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free
add-on that works with Firefox. It has been signed and is now
officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and
unsigned for a few years. Once you install it, you press
Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an
image captcha. The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be
pasted into the appropriate edit field:



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webvisum/





Gerald







*From:*Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@comcast.net>

*Sent:*Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Free Captcha Solver?



Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact,
and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a
simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me
to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

No, Webvisum only works with Firefox.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Young
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Will this work with IE as well?

 

Elaine

 

On 9/29/2016 1:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?

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Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Will this work with IE as well?


Elaine


On 9/29/2016 1:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
 
To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:
 
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?
 
Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?

No virus found in this message.
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Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and approved by Firefox, I missed it!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

 

To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Maybe do like they did on Who Wants to be a Millionaire and phone a friend? Albeit a sighted one at that!

Seriously though, I to, get very tired of all this non accessible accessibility going on  with today’s websites! So tell me, wasn’t that 21st century video and communication act of 2010 supposed to fix all that?

 

Heck, nowadays they’ve even got pay apps to help the blind read thos quite little non blind friendly captchas! Hogwash!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Gerald Levy
 

 
To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:
 
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?
 
Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Free Captcha Solver?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Firefox49

 

I think you mean this:

 Use a background service to install updates Alt+Shift+b

I kept looking for "maintenance service" but this is all I have.

I think Peter may be right, maybe version 49 is not pushed out via automatic updates yet because no matter what I do I am on 47.0.1. Anyhow, I'm sure it will pdate sooner or later, in the meantime I don't use it often enough to spend more time on this, it's not like version 47 doesn't work.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

You may have unchecked it in the past. It is right after the combo box which asks you about checking for updates, either:

 

Always install updates,

Check for Updates, but let me install them, or Never Check for Updates.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

Where do you find the Mozilla Maintenance Service checkbox? There is

something about a third party something, but I see nothing about Mozilla

Maintenance Service on that update options page.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:28 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For Updates

before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which has the

Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then o

for the options settings.

next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow until

JAWS says list box and press the space bar.

down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.

right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.

up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether to

install them radio button checked press control+w or alt+f4.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]

Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Firefox49

 

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of

Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used

Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it seemed

to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use Jaws

Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just went to the

Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a file name of "

Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".

Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest

version from the installer.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.

Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following this,

press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page loads, if

your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will see a Check for

Updates button. It will already be focused on this button. Just press the

Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you will either get a notice

that you can update, or you will hear silence.

If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If you

see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has

downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space Bar

again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing and

update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where do I go

to force a check for updates?

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the

Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I

thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it

sit there nothing happens.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason

White via Groups.io

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to

upgrade to the current version.

 

 

And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in more

recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Paul has instructions, if memory serves, that I helped him get started with to tweek the conversation view to his liking.

 

Currently, all of my mailing list folders state conversation, closed 5 messages, for example, and I right arrow to expand and perform the necessary actions, or I just delete the conversation if it’s not of interest.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

It doesn't tell you how many emails are in the list, and you can't click on individual emails in the list. It just goes out of the list without interacting with the email.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:14 AM

Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

How is it not accessible?

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi, Mike. As far as I know, Freedom Scientific advises turning off Conversation View because it is not really accessible with JAWS.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:53 AM

Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook using the conversation view.

 

I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay within the borders of that conversation.

 

Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.  When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was done.

 

Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated.  I looked around the web on this but did not find any info at all.

 

Mike

 



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Re: General issues with JAWS, is it just me?

anil adivishnu
 

hello i think that your jaws having some buggs plees report to
freedomscientific i has this tipe off buggs in jaws 16 with my old
laptop then i bought a new computer better give your computer
configuration to mee so i can help you out also plees respand to my
answer thanks

On 9/27/16, jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@gmail.com> wrote:
I am using the latest version of Internet Explorer, v11 I believe. And,
also, sometimes when I am tabbing through links, the JAWS gets stuck in a
spot on the screen and it seems like the page only consists of this link
unless I do those same moves like close and reopen JAWS or sometimes refresh

the page. Since restarting JAWS fixes the problem most of the time that is

what I do, sometimes JAWS restarts on its own and it fixes the problem as
well. I keep thinking that there is something I could be setting
differently or maybe I don't have something running in IE11 that should be
there.BTW, it is not limited to just one web site. I first noticed this type

of behavior when I would open a "pdf" file on the internet and somehow I
figured out that tabbing away and back to the screen with the file on it
would take it from a seemingly empty file to a readible one.

-----Original Message-----
From: anil adivishnu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: General issues with JAWS, is it just me?

are you useing firefox? if yes the problem which you are explaneing is
rite it hapends firefox and jaws with some web sites use chrom if you
think that is a big problem but firefox is better chrom has more
problems thanks if this is helpfull plees respond to my answer thanks
ones agane.

On 9/27/16, Robert Logue <bobcat11@shaw.ca> wrote:
I have the same issue. I'm using the Jaws beta. and latest Firefox.
Quite frustrating. Sometimes the Jawsvirtual cursor is off and won't
turn on either.


Bob



On 9/22/2016 4:00 PM, jeff armstrong wrote:
Hello; When I am on a web page, in this case, my cable providers
billing page, if I need to “alt-tab” away from the page when I
“alt-tab back to it it seems blank. If I refresh the page it
sometimes solves this or sometimes I close and restart Jaws 17 and I
am in windows 10. Any ideas?
Jeff Armstrong

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Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Lee Maschmeyer
 

What happens if you check the box that says "Always read this block aloud" or something similar? I use Braille so don't want any speech usually but if Jaws Braille won't work it'd be nice to automate Narrator as much as possible. This is Windows 7.

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Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

thomas williams
 

send me the instruction as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

the directions would be handy to have. I would like a copy too, unless you decide to post it.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 6:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Same here. Thanks. Keith



*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Drew Hunthausen
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:04 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



I would love to get instructions on how to do this as it would really
help for groups like this!! please send instructions. thanks



*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *paul lemm
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:58 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



Hi,



I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really
helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to
have all my emails grouped together



There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly
how you want, currently mine is set up so in outlook for example
your message appears like below in outlook for me.



Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,



Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation and use up and
down to scroll through the messages in this list . if that’s what
you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions on how
to do this.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Mike Cormier
*Sent:* 28 September 2016 18:54
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



Hi everyone,





Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook
using the conversation view.



I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will
advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay
within the borders of that conversation.



Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise
me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.
When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right
out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was
done.



Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated. I looked around
the web on this but did not find any info at all.



Mike


Re: Firefox49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

If 49 isn't ready for public use, why did I receive the option to upgrade to 49? I'm not a beta tester.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:58 PM
Subject: Firefox49

Hi,

I just upgraded my FireFox using the HELP menu.
When I selected "about, I was told that I had version 46.

The option was to upgrade to version 47. This I did successfully.

The original subject is about version 49.
If FireFox does not indicate that v49 is the latest, then maybe it isn't ready for public use.

Peter T.


On 2016-09-28 5:57 PM, Mario wrote:
in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then 
o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow 
until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether 
to install them radio button checked
press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of
Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used
Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it
seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use
Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just
went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a
file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest
version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following
this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page
loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will
see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this
button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you
will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If
you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has
downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space
Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing
and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where
do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the
Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I
thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it
sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to
upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in
more
recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Re: Firefox49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

You may have unchecked it in the past. It is right after the combo box which asks you about checking for updates, either:

Always install updates,
Check for Updates, but let me install them, or
Never Check for Updates.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Where do you find the Mozilla Maintenance Service checkbox? There is something about a third party something, but I see nothing about Mozilla Maintenance Service on that update options page.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For Updates before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which has the Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them radio button checked press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in more recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Firefox49

Peter Tesar
 

Hi,

I just upgraded my FireFox using the HELP menu.
When I selected "about, I was told that I had version 46.

The option was to upgrade to version 47. This I did successfully.

The original subject is about version 49.
If FireFox does not indicate that v49 is the latest, then maybe it isn't ready for public use.

Peter T.


On 2016-09-28 5:57 PM, Mario wrote:
in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then 
o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow 
until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether 
to install them radio button checked
press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of
Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used
Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it
seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use
Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just
went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a
file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest
version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following
this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page
loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will
see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this
button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you
will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If
you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has
downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space
Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing
and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where
do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the
Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I
thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it
sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to
upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in
more
recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Re: Firefox49

Mario
 

if you check if there is an update by pressing alt+h and then a, you
will get a update to version # button if there is an update. if so,
press the space bar. after about 20 or so seconds, Firefox needs to
restart to complete the update. you will be notified and focused on a
restart now button. at least this is how it works for me.

I did notice that Firefox did update once or twice unannounced to me
even though I had the update function set to Check for updates, but let
me choose whether to install them. I suspect it happened due to a major
security update or something related.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 7:27 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For
Updates before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which
has the Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then
o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow
until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether
to install them radio button checked
press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of
Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used
Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it
seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use
Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just
went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a
file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest
version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following
this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page
loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will
see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this
button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you
will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If
you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has
downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space
Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing
and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where
do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the
Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I
thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it
sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to
upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in
more
recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Given the fact I am missing two fingers on each hand due to the accident which also caused my blindness I have to cross arms for that gesture. I can't reach the Windows Key and F4 with my left hand, so I cross arms and use a finger on  my left hand to press the Jaws Key and then I can press the Windows Key with my thumb and the F4 with the ring finger on my right hand. Works well enough and by now it's part of muscle memory.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

All at once, unfortunately.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Young
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

This is good info- I assume I hit the three keys one at time, sure can't reach them all at once with only two hands! Right?

 

Elaine

 

On 9/28/2016 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Jaws Key+Windows+F4 will dump Jaws and restart it. It is meant as a last resort when Jaws hangs or crashes in which case this key combination usually brings it back.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

You can skip the Yes question by using Jaws+Windows+F4.  Jaws will shut down immediately.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Unloading Jaws does not require you to set up a shortcut key, Jaws Key+F4 will do this, it is a built-in shortcut key and if you press it Jaws will say the following:

 

Unloading JAWS

Quit JAWS dialog

Are you sure you want to quit JAWS? Press Enter to quit now, or Escape to cancel.

OK

 

At this point focus is on the OK button, so just press enter and Jaws will go away, if you don't want it to do this press Escape.

As for bringing Jaws back as other pointed out you'll have to add a shortcut key combination like Control+Shift+J to the Jaws shortcut on the desktop.

As long as the Jaws shortcut is on your desktop you can also press Windows+M a couple of times to make sure all Windows are minimized and you are on the desktop, then type "J" and as long as Jaws is the only shortcut that starts with J focus will now be on Jaws and pressing enter will start it.

A final method is to use Windows+R to bring up the Run dialogue, type "Jaws" followed by your version and press enter. For example, if you have Jaws 17 then type "Jaws17" without space and press enter.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

That’s what I thought. So how can I set up my computer, via short cut keystrokes, to completely shut off JAWS, and still easily bring it back up once said sightling is finished?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi, Mike. If you shut off only the voicing of JAWS, it will still interfere with typing text into form fields. Sighted users won't be able to type into edit fields without activating them in JAWS, unless JAWS is completely unloaded.

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From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:08 AM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Thanks! Do you think if I go that route and shut off just the voicing, it won’t interfere with a sightling’s normal navigation of whatever program they’re working with? As in maneuvering the mouse ETC?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hello Michael,


If all you want to do is silence JAWS, you can do this without killing JAWS.

You will have to use the layered command.


Use the numpad insert key, this is the JAWS modifier key.

  JAWS plus space bar, then press "s" to toggle the synthesizer on or off.

Peter T

On 2016-09-28 7:35 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display its properties.

 

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key (hotkey):” and something more. If this additional information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard, (the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item, and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear “Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could be replaced with the letter you typed.

 

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

 

In order to check if it works, try pressing it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

 

Now, if it works, you can confidently type <jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.

 

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

So every now and then one of my sighted friends comes over and wants to check something out on the internet. But she’s always complaining about my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.

So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

 

I know way back when, on a different computer, I had someone put on some  short cut keys to disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

 

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?

Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

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Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

 

No, it didn't even exist in Windows 10 before the anniversary update. It is, however, just one more keypress, Windows+U or Windows+Enter is about the same and in Windows 7 you just have to follow up with an Alt+N. Also, and this is just a question, why not upgrade to Windows 10? You may of course have a perfectly legit reason like maybe your computer is a work computer where you don't have an option, but Windows 10 will run perfectly fine on just about anything that runs Windows 7. I have it running very well on my almost 5-year old laptop which has a first generation I5 CPU and also on an even older Pdesktop which has a CORE-2 Duo E7400 Intel chip and which dates back to I think around 2010. That desktop only has 4 Gb of RAM and, like I said, it runs Windows 10 just as good as it did Windows 7.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

The Windows key and u command takes you to the control panel ease of access center, but you then need to tab to the start narrator button, or press alt and the letter n and it will go to and start narrator. A bit cumbersome, hence my interest in a direct key combination, which apparently does not exist for us old Windows 7 folks.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Hi Sieghard,

In Windows 7, Windows-U should also launch Narrator.

Les

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

As far as I know this combination only works with Windows 10 Anniversary Upgrade.

If you are running Windows 7 you can still get Narrator going, however, just type Windows Key+R for the Run command and then type Narrator followed by enter.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?



HI All,



I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the combination of windows key and enter. Maybe I heard that wrong, because that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have focus. Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of Narrator? I am running Windows 7.



Tim Ford


Re: Firefox49

 

Where do you find the Mozilla Maintenance Service checkbox? There is something about a third party something, but I see nothing about Mozilla Maintenance Service on that update options page.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For Updates before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which has the Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them radio button checked press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in more recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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