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Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

paul lemm
 

Hi Everyone,

 

It was actually one of the members from this list called Kimsan who helped me set up conversation view originally.

 

The instructions he wrote were well explained, clear and easy to follow, since they were so helpful I saved them for if I ever needed them again, so below are the instructions that Kimsam wrote for me to set up conversation view for those that are interested:

 

First make sure you are in the folder you would like to make the change.

 

After you are in the folder alt v for the view ribbon and tab to view settings and space bar.

Next tab to “description group by” and press enter or spacebar.

There will be a choice that says automatically group according to arangement and by default is checked, uncheck it.

Press your tab key and you will be in a combo box, expand it with alt down arrow Press C until you hear "conversation" of course without the quotes.

Tabbing one more time, you will have two radio buttons, make sure it's on the first radio button, ascending.

Tab to the combo box where it says "expand collapse defaults" 

 and if it says last viewd, up arrow and place it on all collapse.

We are finished here, so now tab to the ok button and press spacebar.

Now tab to the sort button and press spacebar.  The first thing you should land on is "sort items by" 

Press S until you get subject, then set that to asending. then tab to the next field set this to received and then asending. then go ok, then ok once more and all done

 

It may seem like a lot of instructions, but it really doesn’t take a moment to get it all set up and in my opinion worth every second of setting it up to get conversation view working well. Again huge thanks to Kimsan for putting the instructions together in the first place.

 

Regards

 

Paul

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: 28 September 2016 23:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

I would love to get instructions on how to do this as it would really help for groups like this!! please send instructions. thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi,

 

I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to have all my emails grouped together

 

There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly how  you want, currently  mine is set up  so in outlook  for example your message appears like below in outlook for me.

 

Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,

 

Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation  and use up and down to scroll through the messages in this list .  if that’s what you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions  on how to do this.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Cormier
Sent: 28 September 2016 18:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook using the conversation view.

 

I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay within the borders of that conversation.

 

Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.  When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was done.

 

Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated.  I looked around the web on this but did not find any info at all.

 

Mike

 


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

I'd like it please

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?


i'd like it please, thanks

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/29/2016 1:51 PM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
i have the setup file for the new web visum if anyone needs email off
list and i'll attach it

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and
approved by Firefox, I missed it!





*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gerald Levy
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?





To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a
free add-on that works with Firefox. It has been signed and is now
officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and
unsigned for a few years. Once you install it, you press
Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains
an image captcha. The result will be placed on your clipboard,
ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webvisum/





Gerald







*From:*Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@comcast.net>

*Sent:*Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Free Captcha Solver?



Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website
https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it.
There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is
there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas
on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

douglas richard dexheimer
 

i'd like it please, thanks

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
home phone 773-409-6163
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/29/2016 1:51 PM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
i have the setup file for the new web visum if anyone needs email off
list and i'll attach it

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and
approved by Firefox, I missed it!





*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gerald Levy
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?





To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a
free add-on that works with Firefox. It has been signed and is now
officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and
unsigned for a few years. Once you install it, you press
Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains
an image captcha. The result will be placed on your clipboard,
ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webvisum/





Gerald







*From:*Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@comcast.net>

*Sent:*Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Free Captcha Solver?



Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website
https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it.
There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is
there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas
on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Joseph Weakland
 

i have the setup file for the new web visum if anyone needs email off list and i'll attach it

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and approved by Firefox, I missed it!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

 

To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Gerald Levy
 

I don't think there is any reason to remove the James Sholes version of Webvisum and install the official Mozilla version as long as it works. After all,if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Gerald, do you think for those of us who got the signed addon from James
Scholes, that we should now remove and install the one from Mozilla's
depository?

now, it would be great if someone would develop a WebVisum like
extension for Edge, that is if Edge ever becomes accessible.

same thing for Google Chrome.

any input from others are welcome to comment.

From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 1:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and approved by
Firefox, I missed it!

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Gerald Levy
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?





To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free
add-on that works with Firefox. It has been signed and is now
officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and
unsigned for a few years. Once you install it, you press
Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an
image captcha. The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be
pasted into the appropriate edit field:



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webvisum/





Gerald







*From:*Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@comcast.net>

*Sent:*Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Free Captcha Solver?



Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact,
and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a
simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me
to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Joseph Weakland
 

yes if you use web visum and mozilla firefox

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:35 AM
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Mario
 

Gerald, do you think for those of us who got the signed addon from James
Scholes, that we should now remove and install the one from Mozilla's
depository?

now, it would be great if someone would develop a WebVisum like
extension for Edge, that is if Edge ever becomes accessible.

same thing for Google Chrome.

any input from others are welcome to comment.

From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 1:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and approved by
Firefox, I missed it!

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Gerald Levy
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Free Captcha Solver?





To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free
add-on that works with Firefox. It has been signed and is now
officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and
unsigned for a few years. Once you install it, you press
Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an
image captcha. The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be
pasted into the appropriate edit field:



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webvisum/





Gerald







*From:*Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@comcast.net>

*Sent:*Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Free Captcha Solver?



Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact,
and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a
simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me
to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

No, Webvisum only works with Firefox.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Young
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Will this work with IE as well?

 

Elaine

 

On 9/29/2016 1:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 

To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?

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Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Will this work with IE as well?


Elaine


On 9/29/2016 1:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
 
To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:
 
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?
 
Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4656/13110 - Release Date: 09/29/16


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SponsoredBy Content.Ad


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Thanks for letting us know Webvisum is once again signed and approved by Firefox, I missed it!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Captcha Solver?

 

 

To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:

 

 

 

Gerald

 

 

 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM

Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Maybe do like they did on Who Wants to be a Millionaire and phone a friend? Albeit a sighted one at that!

Seriously though, I to, get very tired of all this non accessible accessibility going on  with today’s websites! So tell me, wasn’t that 21st century video and communication act of 2010 supposed to fix all that?

 

Heck, nowadays they’ve even got pay apps to help the blind read thos quite little non blind friendly captchas! Hogwash!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Free Captcha Solver?

Gerald Levy
 

 
To solve image captchas, you can download and install Webvisum, a free add-on that works with Firefox.  It has been signed and is now officially approved once again by Mozilla after being abandoned and unsigned  for a few years.  Once you install it, you press Alt-Control-mumrow 6 whenever you encounter a web page that contains an image captcha.  The result will be placed on your clipboard, ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field:
 
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:35 PM
Subject: Free Captcha Solver?
 
Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Free Captcha Solver?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
There's a captcha on the website https://www.themonastery.org/contact, and I can't seem to solve it. There's no link to an audio challenge or a simple math problem; Is there a way for sight-impaired customers like me to solve captchas on websites like this one?


Re: Firefox49

 

I think you mean this:

 Use a background service to install updates Alt+Shift+b

I kept looking for "maintenance service" but this is all I have.

I think Peter may be right, maybe version 49 is not pushed out via automatic updates yet because no matter what I do I am on 47.0.1. Anyhow, I'm sure it will pdate sooner or later, in the meantime I don't use it often enough to spend more time on this, it's not like version 47 doesn't work.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

You may have unchecked it in the past. It is right after the combo box which asks you about checking for updates, either:

 

Always install updates,

Check for Updates, but let me install them, or Never Check for Updates.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

Where do you find the Mozilla Maintenance Service checkbox? There is

something about a third party something, but I see nothing about Mozilla

Maintenance Service on that update options page.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:28 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For Updates

before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which has the

Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then o

for the options settings.

next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow until

JAWS says list box and press the space bar.

down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.

right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.

up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether to

install them radio button checked press control+w or alt+f4.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]

Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Firefox49

 

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of

Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used

Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it seemed

to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use Jaws

Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just went to the

Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a file name of "

Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".

Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest

version from the installer.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.

Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following this,

press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page loads, if

your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will see a Check for

Updates button. It will already be focused on this button. Just press the

Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you will either get a notice

that you can update, or you will hear silence.

If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If you

see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has

downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space Bar

again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing and

update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where do I go

to force a check for updates?

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the

Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

 

I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I

thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it

sit there nothing happens.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason

White via Groups.io

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox49

 

Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to

upgrade to the current version.

 

 

And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in more

recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Paul has instructions, if memory serves, that I helped him get started with to tweek the conversation view to his liking.

 

Currently, all of my mailing list folders state conversation, closed 5 messages, for example, and I right arrow to expand and perform the necessary actions, or I just delete the conversation if it’s not of interest.

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

It doesn't tell you how many emails are in the list, and you can't click on individual emails in the list. It just goes out of the list without interacting with the email.

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:14 AM

Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

How is it not accessible?

 

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi, Mike. As far as I know, Freedom Scientific advises turning off Conversation View because it is not really accessible with JAWS.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:53 AM

Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook using the conversation view.

 

I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay within the borders of that conversation.

 

Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.  When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was done.

 

Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated.  I looked around the web on this but did not find any info at all.

 

Mike

 



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Re: General issues with JAWS, is it just me?

anil adivishnu
 

hello i think that your jaws having some buggs plees report to
freedomscientific i has this tipe off buggs in jaws 16 with my old
laptop then i bought a new computer better give your computer
configuration to mee so i can help you out also plees respand to my
answer thanks

On 9/27/16, jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@gmail.com> wrote:
I am using the latest version of Internet Explorer, v11 I believe. And,
also, sometimes when I am tabbing through links, the JAWS gets stuck in a
spot on the screen and it seems like the page only consists of this link
unless I do those same moves like close and reopen JAWS or sometimes refresh

the page. Since restarting JAWS fixes the problem most of the time that is

what I do, sometimes JAWS restarts on its own and it fixes the problem as
well. I keep thinking that there is something I could be setting
differently or maybe I don't have something running in IE11 that should be
there.BTW, it is not limited to just one web site. I first noticed this type

of behavior when I would open a "pdf" file on the internet and somehow I
figured out that tabbing away and back to the screen with the file on it
would take it from a seemingly empty file to a readible one.

-----Original Message-----
From: anil adivishnu
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: General issues with JAWS, is it just me?

are you useing firefox? if yes the problem which you are explaneing is
rite it hapends firefox and jaws with some web sites use chrom if you
think that is a big problem but firefox is better chrom has more
problems thanks if this is helpfull plees respond to my answer thanks
ones agane.

On 9/27/16, Robert Logue <bobcat11@shaw.ca> wrote:
I have the same issue. I'm using the Jaws beta. and latest Firefox.
Quite frustrating. Sometimes the Jawsvirtual cursor is off and won't
turn on either.


Bob



On 9/22/2016 4:00 PM, jeff armstrong wrote:
Hello; When I am on a web page, in this case, my cable providers
billing page, if I need to “alt-tab” away from the page when I
“alt-tab back to it it seems blank. If I refresh the page it
sometimes solves this or sometimes I close and restart Jaws 17 and I
am in windows 10. Any ideas?
Jeff Armstrong

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Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Lee Maschmeyer
 

What happens if you check the box that says "Always read this block aloud" or something similar? I use Braille so don't want any speech usually but if Jaws Braille won't work it'd be nice to automate Narrator as much as possible. This is Windows 7.

--

Lee Maschmeyer

"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."
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Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

thomas williams
 

send me the instruction as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

the directions would be handy to have. I would like a copy too, unless you decide to post it.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 6:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Same here. Thanks. Keith



*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Drew Hunthausen
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:04 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



I would love to get instructions on how to do this as it would really
help for groups like this!! please send instructions. thanks



*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *paul lemm
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:58 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



Hi,



I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really
helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to
have all my emails grouped together



There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly
how you want, currently mine is set up so in outlook for example
your message appears like below in outlook for me.



Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,



Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation and use up and
down to scroll through the messages in this list . if that’s what
you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions on how
to do this.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Mike Cormier
*Sent:* 28 September 2016 18:54
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



Hi everyone,





Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook
using the conversation view.



I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will
advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay
within the borders of that conversation.



Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise
me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.
When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right
out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was
done.



Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated. I looked around
the web on this but did not find any info at all.



Mike


Re: Firefox49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

If 49 isn't ready for public use, why did I receive the option to upgrade to 49? I'm not a beta tester.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:58 PM
Subject: Firefox49

Hi,

I just upgraded my FireFox using the HELP menu.
When I selected "about, I was told that I had version 46.

The option was to upgrade to version 47. This I did successfully.

The original subject is about version 49.
If FireFox does not indicate that v49 is the latest, then maybe it isn't ready for public use.

Peter T.


On 2016-09-28 5:57 PM, Mario wrote:
in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then 
o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow 
until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether 
to install them radio button checked
press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of
Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used
Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it
seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use
Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just
went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a
file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest
version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following
this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page
loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will
see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this
button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you
will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If
you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has
downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space
Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing
and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where
do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the
Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I
thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it
sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to
upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in
more
recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Re: Firefox49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

You may have unchecked it in the past. It is right after the combo box which asks you about checking for updates, either:

Always install updates,
Check for Updates, but let me install them, or
Never Check for Updates.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Where do you find the Mozilla Maintenance Service checkbox? There is something about a third party something, but I see nothing about Mozilla Maintenance Service on that update options page.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For Updates before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which has the Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them radio button checked press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in more recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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