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Re: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Brian,

 

It shows up in the JAWS manager screen JAWS key +F2 when you’re in a dialog box. It is defined in the search for JAWS commands screen jaws key+ space+ J. it also can be used anywhere the user is prompted to enter information. It seems to me that it works like an alt tag for unclear request on a control. its’ keystroke is ctrl jaws key tab.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

Hello All,

        I am about to begin working with a client at her work site where JAWS will be used on top of a custom software interface, though I believe the interface is web-based.  I have been told by someone who had worked very briefly with this system that a number of edit fields work just as you'd expect and JAWS announces the alt text or label text that goes with them.  Others, however, get a generic announcement that you're in an edit box.

        I have been told that there is a "prompt create" function in JAWS which will allow you to create the prompt that JAWS speaks for an unlabeled edit box whenever you land in it after assigning the prompt.  I have not ever seen this nor recall documentation for same.

        Is anyone familiar with this function and/or what piece of JAWS documentation I should review to learn more about it?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi everyone,

Last week at work I had my 4 month old Lenovo desktop computer running Windows 7, re-imaged because I was having trouble with my computer freezing a lot. After re-installing Jaws 17, I am running into an issue where, if I am in a Word document or on a web page in Chrome, and press alt + tab to switch to another program, Jaws says, Alt CTRL tab, and, instead of being taken to the program I want, I am placed in a window listing all my running programs, and I must choose the program I want from the list and then press enter.

I called VFO tech support, and was briskly, and rudely, I felt, told that this is not a Jaws issue, and that Jaws has nothing to do with the alt key sticking. I looked at language and region settings, and I think they are set where they need to be. Has anyone seen this issue of the right CTRL key sticking? If so, is there a fix for it?

Thanks for any ideas!

Russell


Re: Web-based gmail account

Marianne Denning
 

I do the same find command and search for "show original." If I am using standard then I press T for table until I hear 2 columns and 1 row. Then I arrow down until I find the beginning of the e-mail. One thing I like about standard is that I have created folders and can move emails into those folders and they are moved out of my inbox. I agree that standard view is more dynamic and can present some challenges. I go back and forth between the 2 options depending on what I want to do.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:49 PM, brian albriton <cocanut50@...> wrote:
Hi, Paul.
When opening a message, I use the jaws find to look for show original, which I shorten to "show or"
I than do a repeat find to move from message to message in the conversation. Sometimes you have to tap and arrow key to get to the text of the messages.
The keystrokes for jaws find and repeat find are control-f and f3, respectively.
This is just my way of doing it and certainly not the only way. You might also consider setting up some flexible web rules for gmail.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web-based gmail account

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having trouble navigating through it.  Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for gmail?  I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus










--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: Web-based gmail account

brian albriton
 

Hi, Paul.
When opening a message, I use the jaws find to look for show original, which I shorten to "show or"
I than do a repeat find to move from message to message in the conversation. Sometimes you have to tap and arrow key to get to the text of the messages.
The keystrokes for jaws find and repeat find are control-f and f3, respectively.
This is just my way of doing it and certainly not the only way. You might also consider setting up some flexible web rules for gmail.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web-based gmail account

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having trouble navigating through it. Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for gmail? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus


"Prompt Create" function of JAWS

 

Hello All,

        I am about to begin working with a client at her work site where JAWS will be used on top of a custom software interface, though I believe the interface is web-based.  I have been told by someone who had worked very briefly with this system that a number of edit fields work just as you'd expect and JAWS announces the alt text or label text that goes with them.  Others, however, get a generic announcement that you're in an edit box.

        I have been told that there is a "prompt create" function in JAWS which will allow you to create the prompt that JAWS speaks for an unlabeled edit box whenever you land in it after assigning the prompt.  I have not ever seen this nor recall documentation for same.

        Is anyone familiar with this function and/or what piece of JAWS documentation I should review to learn more about it?
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: reading column and row titles in excel

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

One caveat, from a long-time disciple of Murphy. Back up the original keyboard manager, on the off chance something happens--voice of experience. Having a clean copy on my office PC saved my bacon once.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading column and row titles in excel

Sue,

Yes, I update the Excel KBD and JSB files with each major revision, because I use, and prefer the Ctrl+Alt+1, 2, 3, 4 and the shifted versions to read the top 4 titles and leftmost 4 titles. I find these indispensible and thoroughly dislike the more modern replacements. Call me stodgy.
.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue" <sueb@mindspring.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 04:29 AM
Subject: Re: reading column and row titles in excel


Hi,

One of my favorites suggestions to clients is to change the keystroke that
is used to set row and column titles. Now if you are thinking that is a lot
of trouble, you'd be right if you don't require this often or if you only
ever use row 1 and column A as your headers. But you will appreciate a more
convenient set of keystrokes if you have to have say, row 5 and column D as
your headers for one spreadsheet and then row 10 and column F for another.
I usually show people how to do this in the Keyboard Manager.

Sue B.

On Jul 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Mark, try this. It works for me in E-10. With your worksheet open use
"Insert, V", then arrow down to "Workbook settings" open and arrow on down
to "Title reading detection", open and use the space bar to select "read
Colum and row titles", hit enter and you should be good to go.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Furness
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading column and row titles in excel

Is there not a key board command to set up jaws to read the column and row
titles in excel? When I was using excel years ago I thought there was,
currently i can not find it out.
I am having trouble trying the insert, command, alt with the lette.

Thank you for your help!

Markr c for column or r for row.





Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Nathaniel Kile <heavens4real@...>
 

Fire Fox is indeed the Google recommended browser for Google Drive. I work on about five different stations throughout the week and am noticing more and more that FF is definitely a much more screen reader friendly browser than IE.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:
Nate, which Internet browser is the best with Google Drive?  I use Firefox.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
Here is the link to the Google page for Google drive and its accessibility related information, https://support.google.com/a/answer/1631886 It is now called G suite and this is the oficial page for access supported software. 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
NVDA is the most accessible with Drive online, Jaws will do just fine with the desktop version. I was at the training avent with Google two weeks ago in Baltimore and the topic was covered. Jaws will get you around, but NVDA is taylored for drive and its related apps.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 






--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired



Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Marianne Denning
 

Nate, which Internet browser is the best with Google Drive?  I use Firefox.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
Here is the link to the Google page for Google drive and its accessibility related information, https://support.google.com/a/answer/1631886 It is now called G suite and this is the oficial page for access supported software. 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
NVDA is the most accessible with Drive online, Jaws will do just fine with the desktop version. I was at the training avent with Google two weeks ago in Baltimore and the topic was covered. Jaws will get you around, but NVDA is taylored for drive and its related apps.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 






--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Marianne Denning
 

Google Drive is a method of file sharing. Schools use it a lot. I think some businesses use it too. Two or more people can be editing in a document at the same time. It has Google Docs, Google Sheets and Google Slides.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
I'm not familiar with it, so what exactly is Google drive?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Absolutely! I teach my students to use it regularly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 




--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Nathaniel Kile <heavens4real@...>
 

Here is the link to the Google page for Google drive and its accessibility related information, https://support.google.com/a/answer/1631886 It is now called G suite and this is the oficial page for access supported software. 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:
NVDA is the most accessible with Drive online, Jaws will do just fine with the desktop version. I was at the training avent with Google two weeks ago in Baltimore and the topic was covered. Jaws will get you around, but NVDA is taylored for drive and its related apps.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 




Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Nathaniel Kile <heavens4real@...>
 

NVDA is the most accessible with Drive online, Jaws will do just fine with the desktop version. I was at the training avent with Google two weeks ago in Baltimore and the topic was covered. Jaws will get you around, but NVDA is taylored for drive and its related apps.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 



Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Here’s where a relatively obscure JAWS feature like listing ASCII values really pulls its weight.  This kind of under-the-hood discussion reminds me of my years with DOS, and (believe me) that’s no criticism.  I learned a lot back then.

 

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 12:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

 

Dave,

           The example you give of what you wanted to do is where the power of wildcards really comes in.  Lets say you're interested in replacing any one of the digits 0 through 9 that's followed by a space with that same digit followed by a period and a space.

            Your find string would be "([0-9])( )"  without the quotes, of course, and there is a single space between the second open and close parenthese.  This snags any digit zero through nine followed by a space in the find and the digit found will be available in the replace by the special denotation \1  (backslash followed by one).  The space itself is available using backslash followed immediately by two, but that's more trouble than it's worth here, but isn't if the thing captured is more complex than a space.

            Your replace string would be "\1. " without the quotes, which gives you the digit you captured followed immediately by a period followed immediately by a space.

            This is an incredibly powerful facility.  I only wish that Microsoft had implemented it using regular expressions instead of their own syntax, as this is the concept behind the wildcards, but they're not nearly so flexible as true regular expressions are.  That, however, is beyond the scope here.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

 

Hi Mike,

 

Google Drive is Google’s version of Microsoft’s OneDrive cloud storage/backup service or same from Dropbox. It of course integrates with Google’s other cloud services like Google Docs etc. Here is a Google search result when you put in “What is Google Drive?”:

 

Google Drive - Cloud Storage & File Backup for Photos, Docs & More

https://www.google.com/drive/

Get access to files anywhere through secure cloud storage and file backup for your photos, videos, files and more with Google Drive.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

 

I'm not familiar with it, so what exactly is Google drive?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Absolutely! I teach my students to use it regularly.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

 

Hi Mike,

 

Google Drive is Google’s version of Microsoft’s OneDrive cloud storage/backup service or same from Dropbox. It of course integrates with Google’s other cloud services like Google Docs etc. Here is a Google search result when you put in “What is Google Drive?”:

 

Google Drive - Cloud Storage & File Backup for Photos, Docs & More

https://www.google.com/drive/

Get access to files anywhere through secure cloud storage and file backup for your photos, videos, files and more with Google Drive.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

 

I'm not familiar with it, so what exactly is Google drive?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Absolutely! I teach my students to use it regularly.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Lauren Snyder
 

Can you recommend a tutorial or a short keystrokes list or something that I can use to teach myself how to use it?  

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder, Ph.D.  
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2016, at 3:59 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:

I'm not familiar with it, so what exactly is Google drive?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Absolutely! I teach my students to use it regularly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 


Re: print email from outlook 2016

Stan Holdeman
 

Thanks. Shift tab 3 times worked.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: print email from outlook 2016

 

Hi Stan,

 

The only difference between our setup is that I am running the Jaws 18 Beta, I had to reinstall my laptop from scratch with Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit because somehow in my previous installation something was corrupted and I was not able to set up any Outlook email accounts. Anyhow, I am currently also running Windows 10 Anniversary Edition and updated to the latest update, I have Office 2016, but since we are not that far from the public Jaws release and it seems to be working well I decided not to even put Jaws 17 back on this machine.

I just pressed Control+P when I had your email open and was able to tab through the options for printing until I came to the actual “Print” button. It took me 8 tabs forward or 3 tabs back (Shift+Tab) after I pressed Control+P. When the print dialogue first opened it put me on where it says “Specify how you want the item to be printed” and it is on a combo box and “Memo Style” is selected.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: print email from outlook 2016

 

I am running W 10 Anniversary and jaws 17

 

In Outlook 2016 when trying to print an email, I cannot get jaws to land me on the print button in the print dialogue. It wants to take me through all the print options (page layout, font, etc.) but never lands me on the print button. I have had to load Magic, magnify it big and click print with the mouse pointer.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Stan

 


Re: google drive and Jaws accessibility?

Michael D. Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

I'm not familiar with it, so what exactly is Google drive?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Absolutely! I teach my students to use it regularly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Lauren Snyder <princessesrule@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Is Jaws 17 accessible for use on Google Drive?

 

 


Re: Web-based gmail account

Soronel Haetir
 

I just use the "basic HTML" view and normal jaws navigation keys (h,
b, t, x, etc).

For instance to get to the message chain (after selecting one from the
table) I hit 1, 2, 2, 2. I could probably set up a bookmark but
haven't found it needful to do so.

I do _seriously_ recommend using the basic HTML view rather than
standard. Standard is much more dynamic and jaws has a hard time
dealing with that.

On 10/17/16, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:
I will send more directions later. I am using the dictate feature on my
iPhone and cannot get enough information in. Please contact me off list if
you have specific questions.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Paul Filpus <paulfilpus@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having
trouble navigating through it. Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for
gmail? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you
find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus





--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Web-based gmail account

Marianne Denning
 

I will send more directions later. I am using the dictate feature on my iPhone and cannot get enough information in. Please contact me off list if you have specific questions.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Paul Filpus <paulfilpus@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having trouble navigating through it. Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for gmail? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus




Re: Web-based gmail account

Marianne Denning
 

I use Gmail on a regular basis. I usually use standard view rather than the basic view since it has more functionality. You can't jump from email to email with X. If you want to delete an email you push the to check the email when you have picked all the ones you want to select hit insert F5 go

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Paul Filpus <paulfilpus@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I set up a Google email account (gmail) in basic html and am having trouble navigating through it. Where will I find JAWS shortcut keys for gmail? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments about how user-friendly you find gmail to be.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus