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opening PDF with Acrobat Reader, was Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario
 

Tom, I accidentally deleted your post about having Firefox open a PDF
with Acrobat Reader:

when in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for tools and o for
options.
what I do, and it may not be necessary, press control+home to move to
the top of the page.
either press insert+z to turn virtual PC cursor off and use the arrow
keys to move to the applications category, or move down to where JAWS
announces list box, press the space bar and arrow to the applications
category.
press the tab key 3 times. this is a list of file extensions/events that
correlate to an action you want Firefox to perform when encountering
that file type.
arrow to the Portable Document Format (PDF) and press the tab key.

here is where it gets a bit trying to set it the way you want.
press the up or down arrow keys to choose the option you want.
the default is Use Adobe Acrobat Reader if you have Reader, which you do.
if you encounter the option to send, in this case, a PDF, you will be
placed in a dialog to select which program to open/execute the file.
if you don't intend to have a program handle the file, you'll have to
tab to and space bar on the cancel button, thus forcing you to start
over from the beginning.
so now you'll have to take note of how this particular dialog works.
once you've selected to use Adobe Reader, you're set, unless you want to
tinker with the other file types/events. if not, you can just press
control+w or alt+f4, and try it out.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario
 

try getting to voiceover-easy.net using NVDA instead of JAWS.
if you don't get the error message when using Firefox, you can
demonstrate to FS that the problem does lie with JAWS.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 8:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

So, how exactly do I convince FS that this might be a Jaws issue?

I guess I can try calling them again tomorrow.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox, the
issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and files
under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean
out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result,
because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites
between Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate
the problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email
voiceover-easy and see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use
some input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the
following issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing
tutorials for the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get
the error message below. I don't get this message when trying to
access the web site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct
the problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of
the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more
information about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]


Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double'
is not valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint)
+4775




----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319;
ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.












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.


Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I can change it by just hitting Page Up to increase it or
Page Down to decrease JAWS. I tried, just to make sure.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a
laptop?

ctrl-alt-windows + pagedown.
At 06:40 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hi,

Somehow I increased the speech rate of JAWS on my laptop.
I'm thinking
it's from using the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down keys with
another key
pressed simultaneously, but for the life of me I can't
figure it out.

Can someone please point out how to reduce JAWS speech rate
from the keyboard?

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

So, how exactly do I convince FS that this might be a Jaws issue?

I guess I can try calling them again tomorrow.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox, the
issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and files
under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean
out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result,
because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites
between Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate
the problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email
voiceover-easy and see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use
some input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the
following issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing
tutorials for the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get
the error message below. I don't get this message when trying to
access the web site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct
the problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of
the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more
information about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]


Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double'
is not valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs
e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint)
+4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319;
ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.












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signature database 14232 (20161005) __________

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Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

Tom Behler
 

Ann:

Can I do this globally by changing a setting in Firefox or Internet Explorer
for all PDF files, or must I do it for each individual PDF file?


Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 7:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When
Reading On Line PDF Documents

With your cursor on the filename, use the applications key to get to "open
with" and choose the program you want to use.
At 05:11 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I just worked with Sherry from Freedom Scientific regarding my problem
with the constant clickable announcement when reading On line PDF
documents.

We couldn't properly configure Adobe Acrobat Pro to avoid the clickable
announcements, so she suggested that I install Adobe Reader DC, which I
have done.

As instructed, I have gone into the accessibility settings and told
Adobe Reader DC to not read downloaded PDF documents in my browser, but
how do I get Internet Explorer and Firefox to recognize Adobe Reader DC
as my preferred reader for Adobe PDF files?

Thanks for any help!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. I suspect that even if you uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox, the issue would not be resolved. First, Firefox tends to leave folders and files under ApData in Windows, and also in Roming. Even if you were to go clean out all these files and folders, I suspect you would have the same result, because it could be a JAWS issue, not a Firefox issue.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about
the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites between
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials
for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the
web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current
web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception
can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is
not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e)
in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












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Re: Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

Ann Byrne
 

With your cursor on the filename, use the applications key to get to "open with" and choose the program you want to use.

At 05:11 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I just worked with Sherry from Freedom Scientific regarding my problem with the constant clickable announcement when reading On line PDF documents.

We couldn't properly configure Adobe Acrobat Pro to avoid the clickable announcements, so she suggested that I install Adobe Reader DC, which I have done.

As instructed, I have gone into the accessibility settings and told Adobe Reader DC to not read downloaded PDF documents in my browser, but how do I get Internet Explorer and Firefox to recognize Adobe Reader DC as my preferred reader for Adobe PDF files?

Thanks for any help!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

Ann Byrne
 

ctrl-alt-windows + pagedown.

At 06:40 PM 10/5/2016, you wrote:
Hi,

Somehow I increased the speech rate of JAWS on my laptop. I'm thinking it's from using the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down keys with another key pressed simultaneously, but for the life of me I can't figure it out.

Can someone please point out how to reduce JAWS speech rate from the keyboard?

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

Bill and all:

I disabled all Firefox add-ons, but the www.voiceover-easy.net web site
still did not come up correctly.

In other words, I started Firefox in what's called safe mode.

As I think I said earlier, the web site is accessible via Internet Explorer
11, but not Firefox.

I had my sighted wife try accessing the voiceover-easy.net web site with
Firefox on her computer, and she said it came up fine. Her computer does
not have Jaws.

Freedom Scientific claims this is not a Jaws issue, but I'm not totally
convinced.

Is there anything else I should try, short of uninstalling and then
re-installing firefox?

Once again, here's the error message I get:

Input string was not in a correct format.

Server Error in '/' Application.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about
the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can
be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:


[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63

[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478
VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11
System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194
System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1




Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns
disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by
following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the
website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you
do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns
one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as
normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites between
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I
realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials
for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the
web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a
correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current
web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception
can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is
not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e)
in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.












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How do I reduce speech rate in JAWS on a laptop?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

Somehow I increased the speech rate of JAWS on my laptop. I’m thinking it’s from using the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down keys with another key pressed simultaneously, but for the life of me I can’t figure it out.

 

Can someone please point out how to reduce JAWS speech rate from the keyboard?

 

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

 

Tom,

         Also, it's entirely possible that when you restart Firefox with all add-ons disabled that it will fix nothing.  If that's the case you almost certainly have a JAWS-related issue since so many of us using Firefox 49.0.1 who are not using JAWS are having the page you're having a problem with load just fine.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

 

Tom,

          Starting with add-ons disabled is a diagnostic step.  It only applies for that restart of Firefox and when you restart it again it goes back to normal.

          It's much easier to use the "Restart with add-ons disabled" step to see if anything changes when no add-ons are involved.  If that fixes the problem, then you restart Firefox again (without using the help menu to do it), go to the add-ons manager - extensions tab (most likely, start there first), then disable your add-ons one at a time, reloading the page that's failing after each one is disabled.  Eventually it will load correctly and you have likely found your culprit in the last add-on that you disabled, though to be sure you should begin turning on the add-ons prior to the one you hit one-by-one to see if any interaction is involved.  It's a tedious process.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

Gerald:

Can I disable individual add ons, rather than getting rid of all of them at
once?

As I said earlier, there is an add on I have used successfully called plain
old favorites, and I'd like to keep that one if possible.

Tom behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 4:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


To disable all Firefox add-ons, launch the Firefox Help menu and scroll down
to "Start Firefox With Add-Ons Disabled". To restore Firefox to normal, just
relaunch it.

Gerald


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites between
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



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Version:4.6.1069.1



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.


Need Further Advice On Dealing With Clickable Announcement When Reading On Line PDF Documents

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just worked with Sherry from Freedom Scientific regarding my problem with the constant clickable announcement when reading On line PDF documents.

 

We couldn’t properly configure Adobe Acrobat Pro to avoid the clickable announcements, so she suggested that I install Adobe Reader DC, which I have done.

 

As instructed, I have gone into the accessibility settings and told Adobe Reader DC to not read downloaded PDF documents in my browser, but how do I get Internet Explorer and Firefox to recognize Adobe Reader DC as my preferred reader for Adobe PDF files?

 

Thanks for any help!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Google Docs & Moodle

 

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:52 am, Marianne Denning wrote:
Yes, both work with JAWS but they can still be inaccessible depending on how they are used.

 Marianne,

           Could you please give a couple of specific examples of what you mean by "can still be inaccessible depending on how they're used."  I don't recall ever having an accessibility issue with Moodle.  There were issues with accessibility for a raft of old image scanned PDF documents that professors were distributing via Moodle, but that was a different issue altogether.  It could be that I never needed to "wander into" given areas of Moodle over the several years I worked intermittently with the client I'd mentioned, but I know we covered a lot of Moodle territory.

            I haven't played enough with Google Docs using a screen reader to comment about its deeper recesses.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. When Mario suggested that you restart Firefox with all AddOns disabled, this is not a permanent condition. This is something you do by following the procedure below:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus the letter H.
3. Arrow up approximately three times to reach the menu entry:
Restart Firefox with AddOns Disabled.
4. Press ENTER.

Firefox will then start with all AdOns disabled. You can then go to the website in question, and find out if you still get the same error. If you do, It isn't the Firefox AdOns. If you don't, you need to disable the AdOns one by one until you isolate the culprit.

When you exit Firefox and reopen it, all AddOns will start enabled as normal.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49


Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites between
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.











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Re: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Gerald Levy
 

To disable all Firefox add-ons, launch the Firefox Help menu and scroll down to "Start Firefox With Add-Ons Disabled". To restore Firefox to normal, just relaunch it.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites between
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Tom Behler
 

Mario:

To be honest, I'm not sure how to disable all firefox add-ons.

And, there is one add-on that I want to keep--it's called Plain Old
Favorites for organizing and coordinating my internet favorites between
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I do not use NVDA here, at least yet, but it is on my things to do list.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.


Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Mario
 

did you try Brian's suggestions of restarting FF with all addons disabled?

you can also use NVDA instead of JAWS. remember to unload JAWS before
starting NVDA and then FF, with or without all addons disabled.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 2:22 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

I e-mailed voiceover-easy.net, and the web master couldn't replicate the
problem on his end.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

using Firefox 49.0.1, I don't experience the message you describe. I realize
someone said the problem is with FF, but I would email voiceover-easy and
see what they say.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 5, 2016 9:02 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





*From:* Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:35 PM
*To:* jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
*Subject:* Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net <http://www.voiceover-easy.net>



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below. I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object
Left, Object Right) +478

VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----



Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan












.


Re: Google Docs & Moodle

Nathaniel Kile <heavens4real@...>
 

Hello Merrianne, I will try to ask one of the people from the Google team before we are done today or tomorrow and let you know.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:

Yes, both work with JAWS but they can still be inaccessible depending on how they are used.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of clelands@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Google Docs & Moodle

 

I'm working to figure out the best option for a student who will be needing access to Google docs and Moodle in his classrooms.  I've read that Jaws now works with google docs -- is that correct?  And I can't find any information about moodle -- any experience with this?