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Re: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

It may or may not be JAWS related, but this behavior is two years older than Moses. Unloading JAWS fixes it; try that if nothing else works.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Good morning, Russell: I am having issues with stuck control and alt keys running the latest W10 and J 17. Tapping the offending stuck key usually unsticks it for me, but I know of no more permanent fix.

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 17 in Windows 7 right CTRL key sticking

Hi everyone,

Last week at work I had my 4 month old Lenovo desktop computer running Windows 7, re-imaged because I was having trouble with my computer freezing a lot. After re-installing Jaws 17, I am running into an issue where, if I am in a Word document or on a web page in Chrome, and press alt + tab to switch to another program, Jaws says, Alt CTRL tab, and, instead of being taken to the program I want, I am placed in a window listing all my running programs, and I must choose the program I want from the list and then press enter.

I called VFO tech support, and was briskly, and rudely, I felt, told that this is not a Jaws issue, and that Jaws has nothing to do with the alt key sticking. I looked at language and region settings, and I think they are set where they need to be. Has anyone seen this issue of the right CTRL key sticking? If so, is there a fix for it?

Thanks for any ideas!

Russell


Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

ratshtron
 

another way is to use the alt key and using the numberpad type in let say 0444 and then release the alt key amd the 1/4 symbol is entered.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 10/25/2016 01:41 PM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) said:
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That must be a granularity issue, as my JAWS just read the fraction. I use Advanced on almost all programs.

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document


Peter,

No, the official name for these symbols is "vulgar fraction" followed by what's logical for the actual fraction you've inserted.

It's the technical term for a numerator slash denominator format for a fraction, and that's exactly what they appear like as a single character.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James
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Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

ratshtron
 

I forgot to say that is kind-of like someone
driving a car in the dark and the lights are
turned off, the car is still moving but the
driver cannot see where he/she is going, lol!


Legend has it that on Tuesday 10/25/2016 12:31 PM, Kevin Hourigan said:
----------------------------------------
I take it that just shutting off speech whith
insert spacebar S, is insufficient?

From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: October 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

I wish there was a better way to suspend Jaws.
Supervisor calls end up creating enough wasted
time for me because once Jaws gets restarted, it
doesn't see the labels in the phone program, and
sometimes the other program we use for the call
flows scrolls funny so you can get to either yes
or no, but not both and so forth, since it is
mostly jaws cursor work. I kind of wonder what
fun Windows 10 would throw in the mix, if work
should choose to upgrade one day?

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov>Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

I haven’t used it much, but I think a quick,
safe way is JAWS, Spacebar, S. this should toggle.

I’m still chuckling about sightlings; sounds like Mork­nannu, nannu!

ted

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:35 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Hi Michael,

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you
should have on your desktop has a shortcut key
or not. In order to do so, select it and press
<alt+enter> to display its properties.

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key
(hotkey):” and something more. If this
additional information is simply <none>, type a
key on your keyboard, (the letter j for
instance). Then, tab away from this item, and
shift+tab back to it. You should now hear
“Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could
be replaced with the letter you typed.

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

In order to check if it works, try pressing it.
Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should
inform you about such an attempt, for instance,
by placing you into the Jaws window or opening
the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you
choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

Now, if it works, you can confidently type
<jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After
your sighted friend gives you back your
computer, simply type the hotkey you previously
defined and jaws should restart soon.

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

So every now and then one of my sighted friends
comes over and wants to check something out on
the internet. But she’s always complaining about
my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.
So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS
down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

I know way back when, on a different computer, I
had someone put on some short cut keys to
disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit
those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?
Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a
sightling freak out; when having to listen to
eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

Michael D. Ulrich
Just an ordinary average blind guy!
“Providing Insight for Blindness”
Florida Council of the Blind
Fundraising Committee Member
Home Phone: 239-540-7431
Cell phone: 239-565-5845
Email: <mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net>mulrich@centurylink.net


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Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

ratshtron
 

yes, jaws is still loaded and active; just not talking.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 10/25/2016 12:31 PM, Kevin Hourigan said:
----------------------------------------
I take it that just shutting off speech whith
insert spacebar S, is insufficient?

From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: October 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

I wish there was a better way to suspend Jaws.
Supervisor calls end up creating enough wasted
time for me because once Jaws gets restarted, it
doesn't see the labels in the phone program, and
sometimes the other program we use for the call
flows scrolls funny so you can get to either yes
or no, but not both and so forth, since it is
mostly jaws cursor work. I kind of wonder what
fun Windows 10 would throw in the mix, if work
should choose to upgrade one day?

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov>Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

I haven’t used it much, but I think a quick,
safe way is JAWS, Spacebar, S. this should toggle.

I’m still chuckling about sightlings; sounds like Mork­nannu, nannu!

ted

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:35 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Hi Michael,

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you
should have on your desktop has a shortcut key
or not. In order to do so, select it and press
<alt+enter> to display its properties.

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key
(hotkey):” and something more. If this
additional information is simply <none>, type a
key on your keyboard, (the letter j for
instance). Then, tab away from this item, and
shift+tab back to it. You should now hear
“Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could
be replaced with the letter you typed.

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

In order to check if it works, try pressing it.
Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should
inform you about such an attempt, for instance,
by placing you into the Jaws window or opening
the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you
choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

Now, if it works, you can confidently type
<jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After
your sighted friend gives you back your
computer, simply type the hotkey you previously
defined and jaws should restart soon.

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

So every now and then one of my sighted friends
comes over and wants to check something out on
the internet. But she’s always complaining about
my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.
So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS
down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

I know way back when, on a different computer, I
had someone put on some short cut keys to
disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit
those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?
Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a
sightling freak out; when having to listen to
eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

Michael D. Ulrich
Just an ordinary average blind guy!
“Providing Insight for Blindness”
Florida Council of the Blind
Fundraising Committee Member
Home Phone: 239-540-7431
Cell phone: 239-565-5845
Email: <mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net>mulrich@centurylink.net


----------------------------------------


Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

Ann Byrne
 

In Excel 2010 you put an apostrophe before the number, or format it under format cells, numbers, as fraction.

At 01:32 PM 10/25/2016, you wrote:
Cool, as usual This list could make a dandy document by itself, and I think I’ll create one.

Ted

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document


Without using the Character Map program or the Insert Symbol command in Word is to use the "insert unicode character" command, which is done by typing the unicode code then immediately hitting ALT+X (no space, nothing after the code).

The one third symbol is unicode character 2153, so if you type 2153 immediately followed by ALT+X you'll get a on third (in Arial, but not all fonts have that symbol).

The two-thirds symbol is 2154.

Here are the available fraction symbols and their unicode code:

one-seventh 2150

one-ninth 2151

one-tenth 2152

one-third 2153

two-thirds 2154

one-fifth 2155

two-fifths 2156

three-fifths 2157

four-fifths 2158

one-sixth 2159

five-sixths 215A

one-eighth 215B

three-eighths 215C

five-eighths 215D

seven-eighths 215E

fraction numerator one 215F (which gives you one with the slash as one character, after which you can then type in what you want as a denominator)
















--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: Word 2013, windows 7: opened document not reading

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

This may be a long shot, but perhaps go into the task manager after you close all word documents and see if for some reason a MS Word document application is still running and then end it. After that turn off the computer and restart it. Just a shot in the dark.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.lisle@...> wrote:
Ann, there's a label to the immediate left of the ribbon.  If memory serves, it invokes a read-only mode that strips a lot of junk and makes difficult documents a little easier to handle.  You might give it a shot.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word 2013, windows 7: opened document not reading

Jaws 17.

When my student opens a document in the documents list, JAWS says "Document, message" and does not read the text.  The text is on the screen but not accessible.  Printview is on.  sometimes it says something about preview, but I can't find a preview screen.

additionally when she opens a new document, it's not the usual document 1, but--for example--document 26, then 27, then 28.

How can we fix this????

Thanks,

Ann









Re: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Jason White
 

Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I would feel comfortable updating Firefox, especially since you are using
Windows10.

If you don't keep it up to date, you'll expose your computer to security
vulnerabilities which are fixed in later versions of Firefox.


Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That must be a granularity issue, as my JAWS just read the fraction.  I use Advanced on almost all programs.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

 

Peter,

            No, the official name for these symbols is "vulgar fraction" followed by what's logical for the actual fraction you've inserted.

            It's the technical term for a numerator slash denominator format for a fraction, and that's exactly what they appear like as a single character.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: 1password with jaws

 

Sorry, not sure, but I don't think Roboform has such an option.
You can set up multiple identities and in options under security is a checkbox which by default is unchecked and it says "Dual Password (Employee\Supervisor) Protection", but I'm not totally sure what this does and how this works. I should find out, however, because it would be good if I could give my employees access to some business related logins and passcards. If I find out I'll let you know.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 1password with jaws

Hi Sieghard,

Do you know if RoboForm has a Family option that is accessible and usable. 1Pasword has a family plan wherein each member of a family gets his or her own secure vault, but there is a shard vault for all family members for information which is shared among them.

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 1password with jaws

Hi Bonnie,

I have no experience with OnePassword, but I have been using Roboform for many years and it works quite well. If you subscribe to Roboform Everywhere which I believe is $20 a year or so you can install it on as many devices as you want and your data will be kept on the Roboform servers and sync automatically to your computers. On the iPhone the app is also accessible, but you have to start a sync manually from time to time. Roboform allows you to have password secured log-ins, you can also have Bookmarks which are not password secured and you can have SafeNotes which you can protect with your Master Password or not. I sometimes just have a few notes which are not sensitive information which I don't protect, but it's an easy way to have them available on all my devices.
If I want to log in to a website I just go to my system tray, bring up the Roboform menu and go to Logins, then I find my login (it is first letter sensitive) and press enter on it. For the most part this will go to the website, fill in user name and password and log me in all automatically. For some sites this does not work and in those cases you can put focus in the user name edit field, bring up the application menu with the key for it if you have one or Shift+F10 and select the "Fill" option, this will show you the password Roboform thinks should be used for the website which is usually the correct one and if you press enter it will fill the fields and submit, again on some websites you have to activate the Submit or Login button after it fills the fields. Occasionally when you do this Jaws loses focus and I have to tab away and back to the website and repeat the step withShift+F10, select fill and press enter on the passcard as Roboform calls them.
Overall I quite like Roboform, it has a few quirks, but what doesn't. What is more is that it seems to have been consistently accessible.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 1password with jaws

Hi again,
I have another question as well. I have been using1password as my password program for a year or so. It is not particularly smooth, but I have been able to make it work. However, a few weeks ago they came out with an upgrade, and since then it has not worked at all. I'm wondering if this is a problem with my Firefox browser needing to be updated, but I have been in touch with support. They noticed that something to do with the Freedom scientific settings may be an issue. Does anyone else use this program, and do you have any suggestions for me to make it work? Are there other password programs that work better? It would be a big pain to shift everything over, but if there something that works better I would like to know.

Thanks, Bonnie


Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Cool, as usual  This list could make a dandy document by itself, and I think I’ll create one.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

 

Without using the Character Map program or the Insert Symbol command in Word is to use the "insert unicode character" command, which is done by typing the unicode code then immediately hitting ALT+X (no space, nothing after the code).

The one third symbol is unicode character 2153, so if you type 2153 immediately followed by ALT+X you'll get a on third (in Arial, but not all fonts have that symbol).

The two-thirds symbol is 2154.

Here are the available fraction symbols and their unicode code:

one-seventh 2150

one-ninth 2151

one-tenth 2152

one-third 2153

two-thirds 2154

one-fifth 2155

two-fifths 2156

three-fifths 2157

four-fifths 2158

one-sixth 2159

five-sixths 215A

one-eighth 215B

three-eighths 215C

five-eighths 215D

seven-eighths 215E

fraction numerator one 215F  (which gives you one with the slash as one character, after which you can then type in what you want as a denominator)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi Kevin,

 

If you have an iPhone then Turning off speech with Insert+Spacebar+S in Jaws is like turning off speech with a 3-finger double tap in iOS/Voiceover. It will mute speech, but iOS gestures as well as Jaws behaviour is still as if Jaws or Voiceover were running and it’s equally difficult for sighted users to use the devices this way.

Using Insert+F4 will unload Jaws completely just as a triple click of the home button completely turns off Voiceover and both the computer or the iPhone will be as if no screenreader was installed.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

I take it that just shutting off speech whith insert spacebar S, is insufficient?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: October 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

I wish there was a better way to suspend Jaws. Supervisor calls end up creating enough wasted time for me because once Jaws gets restarted, it doesn't see the labels in the phone program, and sometimes the other program we use for the call flows scrolls funny so you can get to either yes or no, but not both and so forth, since it is mostly jaws cursor work. I kind of wonder what fun Windows 10 would throw in the mix, if work should choose to upgrade one day?

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:52 PM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

I haven’t used it much, but I think a quick, safe way is JAWS, Spacebar, S.  this should toggle.

 

I’m still chuckling about sightlings; sounds like Mork—nannu, nannu!

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi Michael,

 

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display its properties.

 

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key (hotkey):” and something more. If this additional information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard, (the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item, and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear “Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could be replaced with the letter you typed.

 

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

 

In order to check if it works, try pressing it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

 

Now, if it works, you can confidently type <jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.

 

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

So every now and then one of my sighted friends comes over and wants to check something out on the internet. But she’s always complaining about my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.

So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

 

I know way back when, on a different computer, I had someone put on some  short cut keys to disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

 

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?

Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 


Re: 1password with jaws

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi Sieghard,

Do you know if RoboForm has a Family option that is accessible and usable. 1Pasword has a family plan wherein each member of a family gets his or her own secure vault, but there is a shard vault for all family members for information which is shared among them.

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 1password with jaws

Hi Bonnie,

I have no experience with OnePassword, but I have been using Roboform for many years and it works quite well. If you subscribe to Roboform Everywhere which I believe is $20 a year or so you can install it on as many devices as you want and your data will be kept on the Roboform servers and sync automatically to your computers. On the iPhone the app is also accessible, but you have to start a sync manually from time to time. Roboform allows you to have password secured log-ins, you can also have Bookmarks which are not password secured and you can have SafeNotes which you can protect with your Master Password or not. I sometimes just have a few notes which are not sensitive information which I don't protect, but it's an easy way to have them available on all my devices.
If I want to log in to a website I just go to my system tray, bring up the Roboform menu and go to Logins, then I find my login (it is first letter sensitive) and press enter on it. For the most part this will go to the website, fill in user name and password and log me in all automatically. For some sites this does not work and in those cases you can put focus in the user name edit field, bring up the application menu with the key for it if you have one or Shift+F10 and select the "Fill" option, this will show you the password Roboform thinks should be used for the website which is usually the correct one and if you press enter it will fill the fields and submit, again on some websites you have to activate the Submit or Login button after it fills the fields. Occasionally when you do this Jaws loses focus and I have to tab away and back to the website and repeat the step withShift+F10, select fill and press enter on the passcard as Roboform calls them.
Overall I quite like Roboform, it has a few quirks, but what doesn't. What is more is that it seems to have been consistently accessible.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 1password with jaws

Hi again,
I have another question as well. I have been using1password as my password program for a year or so. It is not particularly smooth, but I have been able to make it work. However, a few weeks ago they came out with an upgrade, and since then it has not worked at all. I'm wondering if this is a problem with my Firefox browser needing to be updated, but I have been in touch with support. They noticed that something to do with the Freedom scientific settings may be an issue. Does anyone else use this program, and do you have any suggestions for me to make it work? Are there other password programs that work better? It would be a big pain to shift everything over, but if there something that works better I would like to know.

Thanks, Bonnie


Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I take it that just shutting off speech whith insert spacebar S, is insufficient?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: October 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

I wish there was a better way to suspend Jaws. Supervisor calls end up creating enough wasted time for me because once Jaws gets restarted, it doesn't see the labels in the phone program, and sometimes the other program we use for the call flows scrolls funny so you can get to either yes or no, but not both and so forth, since it is mostly jaws cursor work. I kind of wonder what fun Windows 10 would throw in the mix, if work should choose to upgrade one day?

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:52 PM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

I haven’t used it much, but I think a quick, safe way is JAWS, Spacebar, S.  this should toggle.

 

I’m still chuckling about sightlings; sounds like Mork—nannu, nannu!

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi Michael,

 

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display its properties.

 

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key (hotkey):” and something more. If this additional information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard, (the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item, and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear “Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could be replaced with the letter you typed.

 

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

 

In order to check if it works, try pressing it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

 

Now, if it works, you can confidently type <jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.

 

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

So every now and then one of my sighted friends comes over and wants to check something out on the internet. But she’s always complaining about my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.

So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

 

I know way back when, on a different computer, I had someone put on some  short cut keys to disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

 

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?

Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 


Re: 1password with jaws

 

Hi Bonnie,

I have no experience with OnePassword, but I have been using Roboform for many years and it works quite well. If you subscribe to Roboform Everywhere which I believe is $20 a year or so you can install it on as many devices as you want and your data will be kept on the Roboform servers and sync automatically to your computers. On the iPhone the app is also accessible, but you have to start a sync manually from time to time. Roboform allows you to have password secured log-ins, you can also have Bookmarks which are not password secured and you can have SafeNotes which you can protect with your Master Password or not. I sometimes just have a few notes which are not sensitive information which I don't protect, but it's an easy way to have them available on all my devices.
If I want to log in to a website I just go to my system tray, bring up the Roboform menu and go to Logins, then I find my login (it is first letter sensitive) and press enter on it. For the most part this will go to the website, fill in user name and password and log me in all automatically. For some sites this does not work and in those cases you can put focus in the user name edit field, bring up the application menu with the key for it if you have one or Shift+F10 and select the "Fill" option, this will show you the password Roboform thinks should be used for the website which is usually the correct one and if you press enter it will fill the fields and submit, again on some websites you have to activate the Submit or Login button after it fills the fields. Occasionally when you do this Jaws loses focus and I have to tab away and back to the website and repeat the step withShift+F10, select fill and press enter on the passcard as Roboform calls them.
Overall I quite like Roboform, it has a few quirks, but what doesn't. What is more is that it seems to have been consistently accessible.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: 1password with jaws

Hi again,
I have another question as well. I have been using1password as my password program for a year or so. It is not particularly smooth, but I have been able to make it work. However, a few weeks ago they came out with an upgrade, and since then it has not worked at all. I'm wondering if this is a problem with my Firefox browser needing to be updated, but I have been in touch with support. They noticed that something to do with the Freedom scientific settings may be an issue. Does anyone else use this program, and do you have any suggestions for me to make it work? Are there other password programs that work better? It would be a big pain to shift everything over, but if there something that works better I would like to know.

Thanks, Bonnie


Re: Custom JAWS Scripting for Interaction Desktop by Interactive Intelligence

 

Continuing thanks to all who've responded with suggestions.

Shan, I haven't seen anything come into my inbox privately nor to this list that matches your description.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: silencing announcements

 

Mario,

           Sorry to contradict you, but I'm going to.  Between e-mail providers (most of them, anyway) doing server-side scanning and most folks employing antivirus or security suite software that does realtime scanning of e-mail messages upon download it has been years, literally, since I've had a client who got malware of any kind from allowing images to load as part of their e-mail.  I haven't blocked images in so long I cannot remember.

            If your (for any you) browsing and e-mail habits are such that your security software has not found anything to quarantine in as long as you can remember, the probability that you will get infected from embedded images in an e-mail is vanishingly remote.

            It all comes back to my repeated position:  Most infections are the result of direct or one-click removed user action.  If you aren't someone who goes to sketchy sites, your e-mail spam filter works, and you have any adequate antivirus or security suite you simply don't experience infections with any frequency.  An ounce of prevention in good "browsing hygiene" is worth a pound of cure after a disaster because it wasn't employed in the first place.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mario. I don't know how to tell you this, because I never need to use flash. If you do indeed need to use flash for Firefox, I will put the link below to download an executable file for flash.

https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/latest/help/install_flash_player.exe

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Latest version of Firefox with jaws


Bill, everytime I go to a website that I frequently visit and want to
listen to a flash video, I get a message that I need an up to date
version of Flash.
how can I get Firefox to play Flash content without installing Flash?
maybe there's an extension or plugin I need to install?

------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2016 11:36 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Hi, Bonnie. I am using Firefox49.0.2 with JAWS13, which is an old
version of JAWS, and I am having no problems with Firefox. One reason
you might be getting these messages is that the latest Firefox browser
versions don't need Flash Player from Adobe to stream audio content.
Instead, it uses html5, and some inside players. This is also what
Google Chrome does now.

I would feel comfortable updating Firefox, especially since you are
using Windows10.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Vegiard"
<bonnievegiard@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:10 AM
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws


I am getting different messages that my Firefox browser needs to be
updated. I am always concerned about doing this, because I do not know
how it will work with jaws if I installed the very latest version. Does
anyone have any feedback on this? I have the most updated version of
jaws, and I am using windows 10, but right now I am not sure what
version of Firefox I am using, just that it has not been updated in a
while.

Thanks, Bonni






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Re: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Mario
 

Bonnie, to check for updates, press alt+h for the help menu, a for the
about dialog. if Firefox has an update, JAWS should put you on the
button to get the update. just press space bar or the enter key. wait a
while until JAWS announces it's time to restart Firefox to complete the
update.

-------- Original Message --------

From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2016 11:36 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Hi, Bonnie. I am using Firefox49.0.2 with JAWS13, which is an old
version of JAWS, and I am having no problems with Firefox. One reason
you might be getting these messages is that the latest Firefox browser
versions don't need Flash Player from Adobe to stream audio content.
Instead, it uses html5, and some inside players. This is also what
Google Chrome does now.

I would feel comfortable updating Firefox, especially since you are
using Windows10.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Vegiard"
<bonnievegiard@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:10 AM
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws


I am getting different messages that my Firefox browser needs to be
updated. I am always concerned about doing this, because I do not know
how it will work with jaws if I installed the very latest version. Does
anyone have any feedback on this? I have the most updated version of
jaws, and I am using windows 10, but right now I am not sure what
version of Firefox I am using, just that it has not been updated in a
while.

Thanks, Bonni






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Re: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

majno <alfred.hl@...>
 

you can't. it depends how a site reproduce such contents. some let you use old version of flash, but some don't let you play a media content unless you update your flash. Also some play their contents in html5 if flash is not available.

El 25-Oct-16 a las 11:00 AM, Mario escribió:
Bill, everytime I go to a website that I frequently visit and want to
listen to a flash video, I get a message that I need an up to date
version of Flash.
how can I get Firefox to play Flash content without installing Flash?
maybe there's an extension or plugin I need to install?

------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2016 11:36 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Hi, Bonnie. I am using Firefox49.0.2 with JAWS13, which is an old
version of JAWS, and I am having no problems with Firefox. One reason
you might be getting these messages is that the latest Firefox browser
versions don't need Flash Player from Adobe to stream audio content.
Instead, it uses html5, and some inside players. This is also what
Google Chrome does now.

I would feel comfortable updating Firefox, especially since you are
using Windows10.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Vegiard"
<bonnievegiard@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:10 AM
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws


I am getting different messages that my Firefox browser needs to be
updated. I am always concerned about doing this, because I do not know
how it will work with jaws if I installed the very latest version. Does
anyone have any feedback on this? I have the most updated version of
jaws, and I am using windows 10, but right now I am not sure what
version of Firefox I am using, just that it has not been updated in a
while.

Thanks, Bonni






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Re: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Mario
 

Bill, everytime I go to a website that I frequently visit and want to
listen to a flash video, I get a message that I need an up to date
version of Flash.
how can I get Firefox to play Flash content without installing Flash?
maybe there's an extension or plugin I need to install?

------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2016 11:36 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws

Hi, Bonnie. I am using Firefox49.0.2 with JAWS13, which is an old
version of JAWS, and I am having no problems with Firefox. One reason
you might be getting these messages is that the latest Firefox browser
versions don't need Flash Player from Adobe to stream audio content.
Instead, it uses html5, and some inside players. This is also what
Google Chrome does now.

I would feel comfortable updating Firefox, especially since you are
using Windows10.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Vegiard"
<bonnievegiard@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:10 AM
Subject: Latest version of Firefox with jaws


I am getting different messages that my Firefox browser needs to be
updated. I am always concerned about doing this, because I do not know
how it will work with jaws if I installed the very latest version. Does
anyone have any feedback on this? I have the most updated version of
jaws, and I am using windows 10, but right now I am not sure what
version of Firefox I am using, just that it has not been updated in a
while.

Thanks, Bonni






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