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moderated Re: Jaws2020 monitor message

Randy Barnett
 

do you have windows 10? if so press control windows plus enter to start narrator. if you can navigate windows and everything works correctly then it's a jaws issue. if narrator starts but if windows is not working correctly at least then you can use the narrator to help troubleshoot the problem if narrator doesn't work and nothing else happens you're going to need sided assistance or do a complete reinstall using narrator with windows 10.

Randy Barnett

On Feb 3, 2021, at 5:13 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:



Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer windows10 ,well last night (Tuesday) I was reading email then suddenly  jaws was reading message then it cut off then I said to myself  it’s sounds like the electricity power cut off and I feel computer tower is still on then I ask my sister did the power cut off she say no  then I press window + r to type in jaws2020  however jaws did not come back on !! So I went to press windows key + m to press alt +f4 arrow down once to restart press enter  the computer never restart  then I went back on desktop  press alt f4 to press enter on shut down computer  that didn’t shut down either so I had to press the power button on computer tower to turns off the computer . Well this morning the computer was on but jaws still not saying anything at all so I have try to reload jaws 2 time it won’t come on  then my sister came and try to see if she can see what’s going on the windows screen monitor  she told me the monitor is on then few second  it’s say no detected  signal  so she try to restart the computer  it won’t restart so she said that she will ask my brother to come over after his doctor appointment  so my brother said there is something on the windows screen  monitor  but he can’t fix it and say the monitor is not working . Then this evening around 5:30 p.m. I call Mr.James to ask him when he came by the house on yesterday  with laptop and I was showing him something on desktop computer did he see anything strange about the monitor  he said no  then I went back on desktop computer while he was still on the phone  suddenly jaws start talking  then Mr.James  said it probably  was jaws doing it when my brother and I have try to reload jaws it won’t come on !! Does anyone have any idea  what is the other way to try to narrow jaws back on ?

Addison


moderated Reading Googledocs with JAWS

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I am trying to read a document from my church that was sent in Googledocs, but I am finding that when I read it I can only do so line-by-line, meaning I have to press the Down Arrow key after every line.  The JAWS Say All command will not work.  Is there a way using JAWS that I can read something in Googledocs straight through, as if I were using the Say All command in other documents?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated A message of thanks that has been a long time coming.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good evening everyone, 

 

I’m writing this message, because it’s  a long time coming.  Their a few members on this list, that have taken the time out of there schedules too answer questions that I have posted regarding Jaws. Those of you who did, know who you are, and therefor, I shouldn’t post their names publically on this forum. 

 

Please know that I would like too say thanks, and it is always appreciated, 

 

Al        


moderated Jaws2020 monitor message

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer windows10 ,well last night (Tuesday) I was reading email then suddenly  jaws was reading message then it cut off then I said to myself  it’s sounds like the electricity power cut off and I feel computer tower is still on then I ask my sister did the power cut off she say no  then I press window + r to type in jaws2020  however jaws did not come back on !! So I went to press windows key + m to press alt +f4 arrow down once to restart press enter  the computer never restart  then I went back on desktop  press alt f4 to press enter on shut down computer  that didn’t shut down either so I had to press the power button on computer tower to turns off the computer . Well this morning the computer was on but jaws still not saying anything at all so I have try to reload jaws 2 time it won’t come on  then my sister came and try to see if she can see what’s going on the windows screen monitor  she told me the monitor is on then few second  it’s say no detected  signal  so she try to restart the computer  it won’t restart so she said that she will ask my brother to come over after his doctor appointment  so my brother said there is something on the windows screen  monitor  but he can’t fix it and say the monitor is not working . Then this evening around 5:30 p.m. I call Mr.James to ask him when he came by the house on yesterday  with laptop and I was showing him something on desktop computer did he see anything strange about the monitor  he said no  then I went back on desktop computer while he was still on the phone  suddenly jaws start talking  then Mr.James  said it probably  was jaws doing it when my brother and I have try to reload jaws it won’t come on !! Does anyone have any idea  what is the other way to try to narrow jaws back on ?

Addison


moderated Re: MP3gain installation

Audiobookfan
 

I took this suggestion and installed the full version. I'm pleased to report all went well.

Thanks,
Jeff

On 2/1/2021 3:58 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 04:55 PM, Audiobookfan wrote:
I was trying to install version 1.2.5. I think the version you
mention below is a beta and I'd prefer not to use beta software.
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You are correct.
I'd simply download a fresh copy of the installer from the official download page: http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php <http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php>
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moderated Re: Problem with my Wi-Fi

Dave Durber
 

Glen & Randy:

Please accept my apologies in not responding to both your last posts regarding this thread. I am having to write my reply as and when I can, this is because I am taking care of my wife, who has recently come out of hospital, following a major double sergeacal procedure. I will try and send, a reply in a day or so.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: Problem with my Wi-Fi


That is another good thing to check.
Especially if it is a laptop, this may get checked automatically.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "HH. Smith Jr." <josham129@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with my Wi-Fi


Hi again,

In device manager, find the adapter in the network adapter pull out window
and go into its properties and on the last tab there is a checkbox asking
you whether you want the computer to turn it off if you want to save power
consumption. You do not want the computer to turn it off at all. HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr. via
groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with my Wi-Fi

Hi,

I don't know if this has been already mentioned, but have you checked if the
USB port that the adapter is plugged into is in power saving mode. You can
check for that in your device manager

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with my WiFi

Agreed and now you have ruled out the dongle.
PatAt 01:54 PM 1/30/2021, you wrote:
Pat:

I have done that but, the problem stays with the DELL computer,
therefore, I am fairly certain it is a problem with network settings in
Windows 10 for that computer.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Byrne" <k9jau@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with my WiFi


Dave,
Try swapping the dongles, just to be that the new one isn't defective.
Pat Byrne




























moderated Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

Randy Barnett
 

I had to search with google to get to it. the program is called hope.

Accessible Apps – Hope (q-continuum.net)

On 2/3/2021 1:31 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:
Randy, I can't get fcontinuum.net to work... where did you find that player you got again please? Jims

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

I couldn't find a script for jaws oncontinuum.net. They do have an app 
called Hope that is a stand alone player. I did buy it and it works fine 
so far.

On 2/1/2021 7:24 AM, Charles Krugman wrote:
There is a script that has been around for a while. I use it and am very
satisfied with it. There is a nominal fee for purchase but you can try it
first. Check out q-continuum.net.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Crome
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Pandora with JAWS

Hello everyone,

I am helping a person to learn to use JAWS.  She would like to use Pandora
to listen to music.  She is running JAWS 2021 with Windows 10.  We
downloaded the Pandora App and it appears somewhat usable but has limited
ease of access to the controls.  I am wondering if there is a list of usable
hotkeys for this app, or if there may be a script that I can acquire that
will help her make this more usable?

Thanks much for any assistance that you can provide.
Roger


















moderated Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

Mario
 

Jim, here it is:

Hope: Accessibility for Pandora
https://q-continuum.net/hope/

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jim Rawls [mailto:jazzpiano@ca.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 4:31 PM
Subject: Using Pandora with JAWS
Randy, I can't get fcontinuum.net to work... where did you find that player you got again please? Jims

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

I couldn't find a script for jaws oncontinuum.net. They do have an app
called Hope that is a stand alone player. I did buy it and it works fine
so far.

On 2/1/2021 7:24 AM, Charles Krugman wrote:
There is a script that has been around for a while. I use it and am very
satisfied with it. There is a nominal fee for purchase but you can try it
first. Check out q-continuum.net.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Crome
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Pandora with JAWS

Hello everyone,

I am helping a person to learn to use JAWS. She would like to use Pandora
to listen to music. She is running JAWS 2021 with Windows 10. We
downloaded the Pandora App and it appears somewhat usable but has limited
ease of access to the controls. I am wondering if there is a list of usable
hotkeys for this app, or if there may be a script that I can acquire that
will help her make this more usable?

Thanks much for any assistance that you can provide.
Roger


















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moderated Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

Jim Rawls
 

Randy, I can't get fcontinuum.net to work... where did you find that player you got again please? Jims

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

I couldn't find a script for jaws oncontinuum.net. They do have an app
called Hope that is a stand alone player. I did buy it and it works fine
so far.

On 2/1/2021 7:24 AM, Charles Krugman wrote:
There is a script that has been around for a while. I use it and am very
satisfied with it. There is a nominal fee for purchase but you can try it
first. Check out q-continuum.net.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Crome
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Pandora with JAWS

Hello everyone,

I am helping a person to learn to use JAWS. She would like to use Pandora
to listen to music. She is running JAWS 2021 with Windows 10. We
downloaded the Pandora App and it appears somewhat usable but has limited
ease of access to the controls. I am wondering if there is a list of usable
hotkeys for this app, or if there may be a script that I can acquire that
will help her make this more usable?

Thanks much for any assistance that you can provide.
Roger







moderated Re: Settings question using chrome browser.

Edward Green
 

Hi Al,

type chrome://settings into the address bar.

Cheers,

Ed

On 3 February 2021 20:08:01 "Albert Cutolo " <Albertc51@...> wrote:

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

I use chrome as my internet browser on a windows 10 laptop computer with jaws 21.  My question is, Where do I go too get to the settings menu after chrome loads? 

 

Thanks in advance for any and all help, 

 

Al          


moderated Re: Settings question using chrome browser.

Mike B.
 

After you open Chrome press, Alt + F, to open the menues, then press the letter, S, to open Settings.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 12:07 PM
Subject: Settings question using chrome browser.

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

I use chrome as my internet browser on a windows 10 laptop computer with jaws 21.  My question is, Where do I go too get to the settings menu after chrome loads? 

 

Thanks in advance for any and all help, 

 

Al          


moderated Settings question using chrome browser.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

I use chrome as my internet browser on a windows 10 laptop computer with jaws 21.  My question is, Where do I go too get to the settings menu after chrome loads? 

 

Thanks in advance for any and all help, 

 

Al          


moderated Re: Google Sheets - how to adjust column width?

 

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:56 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:
I've already read the first link and it is just talking about clicks. There are no keyboard steps.
-

To automatically resize column width in Google Sheets to fit text, follow these steps:

  1. Select the column(s) that you want to fit to the text inside them
  2. Right click at the top of a selected column, then click "Resize column…"
  3. Click "Fit to data, then click, "OK"
I'm sorry, but there is no excuse, none, for a screen reader user not to be able to translate "right click" in a sighted set of instructions to "bring up the context menu by the method of your choosing."

Click resize column.  Gain focus on resize column control and activate.

Click "fit to data."    Gain focus on the Fit to data menu option/radio button/checkbox/whatever control, and activate.

Click OK button.  Activate OK button.

Etc.

If you cannot do the direct translation from typical point and click to its exact keyboard equivalent then it's time to learn.  It was long ago time to learn.

There is nothing in those three steps that any screen reader user should not immediately understand and be able to do.  It's not rocket science.
 
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moderated Re: Google Sheets - how to adjust column width?

Tanguy LOHEAC
 

Hi Brian

Thank you for your answer. I've already read the first link and it is just talking about clicks. There are no keyboard steps.

Le 03/02/2021 à 16:26, Brian Vogel a écrit :

Personally, I like using the "Fit to Data" option to automatically resize columns.  See: Automatically resize columns in Google Sheets with “Fit to data”

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=using+google+sheets+with+a+screen+reader 

Keyboard shortcuts for Google Sheets - Computer - Docs ...


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moderated Re: Google Sheets - how to adjust column width?

 

Personally, I like using the "Fit to Data" option to automatically resize columns.  See: Automatically resize columns in Google Sheets with “Fit to data”

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=using+google+sheets+with+a+screen+reader 

Keyboard shortcuts for Google Sheets - Computer - Docs ...


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moderated Re: what is mp3gain

 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 04:37 PM, Mario wrote:
you don't have to keep reaching for the volume dial on your mp3 player every time it switches to a new song.
-
Which, if you have to do it, is an annoyance to begin with, but if you are driving a car (or are a passenger) where a collection of MP3 music is on shuffle play for hours and hours it saves you from utter madness as well as the occasional shock if one album had a recording level significantly higher than another and those two songs play back to back.

MP3Gain Home Page
 
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moderated Google Sheets - how to adjust column width?

Tanguy LOHEAC
 

Hi there

Does anyone know how to automatically adjust column width in Google Sheets? The only steps i found on the web refer to actions with the mouse pointer, and I can't find any options in the menus.

Thanks in advance for your help


have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

Charles Krugman
 

That's the right one.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Pandora with JAWS

I couldn't find a script for jaws oncontinuum.net. They do have an app called Hope that is a stand alone player. I did buy it and it works fine so far.

On 2/1/2021 7:24 AM, Charles Krugman wrote:
There is a script that has been around for a while. I use it and am
very satisfied with it. There is a nominal fee for purchase but you
can try it first. Check out q-continuum.net.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Crome
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Pandora with JAWS

Hello everyone,

I am helping a person to learn to use JAWS. She would like to use
Pandora to listen to music. She is running JAWS 2021 with Windows 10.
We downloaded the Pandora App and it appears somewhat usable but has
limited ease of access to the controls. I am wondering if there is a
list of usable hotkeys for this app, or if there may be a script that
I can acquire that will help her make this more usable?

Thanks much for any assistance that you can provide.
Roger












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moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

JM Casey
 

I do understand. I have a hearing loss myself and when I’m watching movies or listening to audiodramas, especially old ones, I tend to use equaliser settings to bring out more of the high frequencies in dialogue. As for the Eloquence synth, it’s top “resolution’ if you want to call it that is 11khz roughly, and the rule of thumb is that you get half that in terms of top-most frequency audible, so around 5.5khz, which is still *(supposed* to be above the frequency of most connsonants, but in practical terms, your ear can probably still discern that something is missing.

I still think Eloquence is the best synth for everyday computer use because it’s more concerned with smoothness and practical use than actual pleasurable reading. I don’t set it to speak very fast, myself, but still much faster than Vocalizer, whihch, as it’s taken from actual human voice samples, sounds like absolute garbage speaking any faster than a person can speak. However I do switch to vocaliser when I want to listen to a book “on the go” or something with my bluetooth headset. Otherwise though I just stick to refreshable braille most of the time.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: February 2, 2021 04:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

Glad to understand the frequency aspect of why I might have issues hearing Eloquence clearly.  Ever so often I’ll test out voices again, but most have either too much inflection or must have some of this frequency difference.  Even in Vocalizer, I find the U.S. voices other than Nathan and Samantha seem more muffled to me.  Vocalizer.  

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

Robin:

 

I don't like eloquence either.  The version that used to ship with k1000 was better, but the one with jaws sounds like audio above a certain frequency is completely missing.  I use Tom Premium High on Jaws and my phone both, it seems about the best, and since I can have it on both, things are usually mis-pronounced everywhere, which bothers me less.

 

I used to have a Dec express, I wish I could get that voice back, maybe without the problem of not being able to shut it up quickly, that might be the best of all worlds.

 

 

On 2/2/2021 10:07, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Chris,

It’s been a while, but, even on my iPhone, I think there is more inflection in the full or enhanced versions.  I was a Window Eyes user with Dec Talk for many years, so I don’t mind the robotic sounds of Eloquence, but there is something to the about the voices that I find hard or fuzzy to my hearing, not the diction, but the audio quality.  I like the sound clarity in Vocalizer Nathan the most, despite some of its pronunciation quirks. I like that the Compact voices are less emotive and more steady.  I’m also not one who listens to speech super-fast, so that isn’t a concern to me. I’m faster than the default for sure, but not the rocket speed I hear others use. I’m not diagnosed as hearing impaired, but have some sort of issues with my hearing of certain frequencies or tones.  I also like Microsoft Mobile Mike for clarity.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Hello.

 

Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?  These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't have trouble with the full one.

 

 

On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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moderated Re: what is mp3gain

Mario
 

MP3Gain analyzes mp3 files to determine how loud they sound to the human ear. It can then adjust the mp3 files so that they all have the same loudness without any quality loss. This way, you don't have to keep reaching for the volume dial on your mp3 player every time it switches to a new song.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jeff Lukacsena [mailto:jlukacsena@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 4:10 PM
Subject: what is mp3gain
Hi List,

I have seenseveral messages about a programcalled mp3 gain. Can someone
tell me what this program is and what it can do, and how do you get it?

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

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