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Re: getting Jaws on the desktop
While I can get the shell:AppsFolder to display in any of the typical views, it does not respond to the standard folder shortcut keys to change the view. The only way I can get there is:
1. Activate the Organize dropdown, Layout Option, Menu Bar toggle. 2. Activate the View Menu (ALT+V), Details option (followed by D). It also always reverts to Tiles view, it's default, if you close it and open it again later, no matter what view you had chosen for it using the above method. With NVDA, and I'd have to believe with JAWS (but haven't tested), first letter navigation works regardless of the view chosen. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Office 365
It's under File > Office Account. Also, for Office 365 there is no Office 2019, this refers only to the stand-alone version. With Office being a subscription product you will always have the latest version.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365
Dan, I’m not finding an update option under Files, Options. Could you say more where you are finding this?
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dan Longmore
Hi, Using Office 365 and JAWS 2021. No major issues other than those that have lingered over last couple of JAWS versions. Nothing major. In your office application you need to go to options , under the file menu, and then update.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Good question. I’ve not heard great things about Jaws and Microsoft 2019, so I have not really looked into it. I also haven’t bothered to call Microsoft and ask.
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Hi All, A question about office 365 version number. My word and outlook apps and so on is 2016, when there are updates, why don’t my apps get updated to 2019? Is there a way to get them updated to 2019?
Andrew
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Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,
Van Lant, Robin
Joseph,
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Those of us using JAWS at a company cannot use the annual home license anyway. We have to use the Professional version.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10, Milton, what I was suggesting below, was him speaking with his employer about getting the $90 subscription. Whether it had to be done through an administrator or himself. On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@gmail.com> wrote: This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: getting Jaws on the desktop
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That all depends on which View yu select, by default it might be showing as a grid, but you can display this folder just as any other folder with small icons, medium icons, large icons, a list or details and the standard folder shortcut keys apply, e.g. Control + Shift + numberRow 6 for Details. If you select to show it as a list or details all apps are listed one below the other and of course first letter navigation applies so simply typing J will take you instantly to Jaws.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop Hi Bill, Thanks for this, I didn't know that's how you're supposed to navigate the folder. Wish I'd known that before! Thanks again! -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: November 16, 2020 1:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop Hi, Sieghard. Even if Madison is using Windows 10, one thing he/she may not know is that in the Apps Folder (accessed through shell:AppsFolder), one does not use the up and down arrows to navigate through the files. The files are laid out horizontally, and navigation is accomplished by using the left and right arrows. Because of this, the JAWS application could have been missed, if the up and down arrows were being used as the method of navigation in the Apps Folder. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop No offense, but maybe you are not doing something the way it is explained. If you have Jaws installed on your computer and are using Windows 10 the Shell:AppsFolder command will definitely show you a list which contains Jaws. Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7? Don't think you said and I don't recall if anybody asked. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog. 2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list of all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want windows to create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the message off the top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll hear but this method will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're not comfortable doing this and you need assistance, just let me know and I'll be happy to help you. BZ! -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop Hi all, I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a shortcut I got 5 options: Run as administrator Open file location Unpin from taskbar Pin to start Uninstall Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws, I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks Madison -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?
Cynthia Bruce
Hi All,
I received a manuscript proof that indicates a missing resource is highlighted. Can I search for this highlighted text? I am using JAWS 2020 and Word 2016.
Thanks,
Cynthia
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Re: Asking a outlook 2019 mail question with jaws.
Ann Byrne
Is it possible that outlook is set to empty the deleted items on exit, so there is in fact nothing in that folder?
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Re: reading footnotes in a word document
Ok, I shall wait until next week when I plan to upgrade. Also Richard, for me there is no concern whether footnotes appear at bottom of page, I usually switch to draft view when reading long documents in braille. Usually when I pick a footnote number, I press the relevant cursor routing button and usually go to them with cntrl-shift-e which pays most of the time. However, since this is really a preview screen and I particularly want to read a very long note, I use the customary method of windows key-colon, arrow down to footnotes and then have to find the one I want, a bit more tedious when you get to say, note 289 or so. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document
I’m using Jaws 2021. That might be the difference.
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Richard, I will try it again, perhaps this may have changed with latest jaws2020 version. I shall let you all know. Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
With my Orbit Reader 20 plus, in Word 2016 from Microsoft Office 365, leaving the UI option checked and having Comments, Footnotes, and Endnotes Detection On in Reading OptionsWord Settings, when I come to a footnote with the braille display it shows the number sign, dot 1 for number 1, with dots 7,8 under both cells, and so on. Then, at the bottom of the page, it shows the number and the text of the footnote. I am using UEB Contracted.
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Hi Richard/all, Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them. Cheers, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I find that leaving UI checked works fine. If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document. Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting: Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Hi Justin, I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look. Take care, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
What category is it under?
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Hi Richard/all, Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual. Hope this helps, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
He meant just jawsKey plus v. The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read. I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.
Richard
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Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,
Joseph Hudson
Milton, what I was suggesting below, was him speaking with his employer about getting the $90 subscription. Whether it had to be done through an administrator or himself.
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On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Asking a outlook 2019 mail question with jaws.
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
CTRL+M while in the folder
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Asking a outlook 2019 mail question with jaws.
Ron Kolesar
Hello, to all.
How can I get jaws to read my mail in the deleted mailbox of outlook 2019? Every time I go to that mailbox, it states that there's no mail in that mailbox, even though I know that there are mail in the mailbox. What do I need to click on to have my mail that's inside the deleted mailbox show up? Many thanks. Ron KR3DOG In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
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Re: JFW2021 getting stuck in a Word Document
Ashleigh Piccinino
Not happening for me, everything’s working/reading normally. You might want to do a JAWS repair nd/or contact Vispero for more support.
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On Nov 17, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:
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Re: Office 365
Ashleigh Piccinino
Not finding it under options either, but under account ... there is an ‘update options’ thing. It’s alt f then d and r, so think of President FDR for that. Are those the option you mean, Rich and others on the thread?
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Re: Office 365
1. Office 365 (like most recent versions of Office) should be self-updating. It never hurts to check, but it's unlikely to turn up anything when you do. If you are a Windows 10 User, and look in your Update History under the Quality Updates section, you'll very likely see a number of items related to Microsoft Office if you have Office.
2. Microsoft 2016, 2019, and 365 are all rooted in the same code base, a lot of which has not changed. So specific version numbers on components that really haven't changed could reflect 2016 in all three. 3. There have definitely been updates to specific components in 2019, and especially 365, as time has marched on. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Office 365
Richard Turner
Dan, I’m not finding an update option under Files, Options. Could you say more where you are finding this?
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365
Hi, Using Office 365 and JAWS 2021. No major issues other than those that have lingered over last couple of JAWS versions. Nothing major. In your office application you need to go to options , under the file menu, and then update.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Good question. I’ve not heard great things about Jaws and Microsoft 2019, so I have not really looked into it. I also haven’t bothered to call Microsoft and ask.
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Hi All, A question about office 365 version number. My word and outlook apps and so on is 2016, when there are updates, why don’t my apps get updated to 2019? Is there a way to get them updated to 2019?
Andrew
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Re: Office 365
Dan Longmore
Hi, Using Office 365 and JAWS 2021. No major issues other than those that have lingered over last couple of JAWS versions. Nothing major. In your office application you need to go to options , under the file menu, and then update.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Office 365
Good question. I’ve not heard great things about Jaws and Microsoft 2019, so I have not really looked into it. I also haven’t bothered to call Microsoft and ask.
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Hi All, A question about office 365 version number. My word and outlook apps and so on is 2016, when there are updates, why don’t my apps get updated to 2019? Is there a way to get them updated to 2019?
Andrew
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Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)
Dan Longmore
True, the government is not involved. Yet as an individual I have the
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freedom to express myself unless , the list expressly prohibits such behaviors. In that case I have the choice to follow the rules or leave. Many, non religious saying I do not like but that's part of a person's right. A sad statement on our culture that we can so easily be offended or want something removed with which we disagree. Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability) All must go? Sounds like a great idea. For the record, this is not a First Amendment issue. The government isn't involved. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability) Hi, First Amendment allows anyone to add to their signature and that includes those who desire to share something about themselves, and the importance of faith and belief in God, in their post. Many signatures also include common , non religious, sayings. IF we begin to eliminate some then all must go. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability) Many personal signatures on the list include religious statements. Why are these allowed??? At 04:45 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote: Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limitsWindow Eyes.
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Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)
Adrian Spratt
All must go? Sounds like a great idea. For the record, this is not a First Amendment issue. The government isn't involved.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability) Hi, First Amendment allows anyone to add to their signature and that includes those who desire to share something about themselves, and the importance of faith and belief in God, in their post. Many signatures also include common , non religious, sayings. IF we begin to eliminate some then all must go. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability) Many personal signatures on the list include religious statements. Why are these allowed??? At 04:45 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote: Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limitsWindow Eyes.
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Hi,
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First Amendment allows anyone to add to their signature and that includes those who desire to share something about themselves, and the importance of faith and belief in God, in their post. Many signatures also include common , non religious, sayings. IF we begin to eliminate some then all must go. Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability) Many personal signatures on the list include religious statements. Why are these allowed??? At 04:45 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote: Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limitsWindow Eyes.
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Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)
Ann Byrne
Many personal signatures on the list include religious statements. Why are these allowed???
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At 04:45 PM 11/17/2020, you wrote:
Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limits everything else goes.
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Re: List Rules (was RE: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability)
Randy Barnett
Blind-users@groups.io but religion and politics are off limits everything else goes.
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On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, James English wrote:
What are these lists? I've been looking for a general blindness list for a while
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