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moderated Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

OK, I misunderstood then. You should make a suggestion via the Vispero website to allow users to pick and choose their sound files for Jaws events like you can do in Windows.

I don’t use a headset often and on speaker I personally find that the sound is quite OK.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 4:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi, Sieghard.

I think what the original questioner wanted to know was how to disable the sound that you hear when the autocomplete list is generated but not how to disable Outlook's autocomplete feature, which I agree is extremely useful. I personally find that particular sound to be extremely jarring and harsh on my ears, particularly when I use a headset. I believe this sound is from JAWS and not from Outlook and I personally find it annoying. I don't believe there is a setting to disable that particular sound from within Quick Settings and there really needs to be. The various sounds are located in the folder

C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\Settings\enu\SOUNDS

and there are two Outlook autocomplete sound files, one for start and the other for end. A user could substitute their own sound files for the defaults, ensuring that they properly rename them back to the original names of the files to ensure that they still work. It is likely that deleting these files without replacing them would just result in no sounds at all without breaking the Outlook scripts but I haven't tried it to verify.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/8/2020 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Not sure why you wouldn’t want auto-complete, I use it all the time since mostly I just have to type a few characters of the person’s name and then I can arrow if necessary to find the person.

But to turn it off just go to File > Options, go to the Mail category and then tab about 40 times, if you don’t want to tab that much you can also press Alt + G when you are on the Mail category.

But of course if you do tab through all these options, you get to know what they are and it’s always good to know where things are and what you can change/customize.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi.

 

When I’m typing an e-mail, in the to field, jaws will play a sound that indicates recent people you’ve contacted. Is there a way to turn this off, and where do I find it?

 

Thanks.

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

aad leeflang
 

hello marten,
thanks for your help.
looks as if the problem is solved by linkiing my kieyboard to another
usb port.
aad
On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:54:32 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

I think the program you are writing the message in is doing something so
jaws thins that it must go to the virtual pc cursor. Instead of enter,
try shift-enter.

The mail-program you are writing your message in, is that still Becky
mail?
Do you have this problem in other programs too?>

Regards, Marten


On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 13:50:15 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello marten,
no i allso have this when i write this mail to you and press enter to
create a new line.
my pc says than: jaws and i have to switch it nanually back to pc.
i allso had this in jaws 2019 so it does not have to do with jaws 2020.
all the best
aad

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:53:40 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten



On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

aad leeflang
 

helolo
i havd just unplugged my usb keyboard and linked it to another usb port
and now the problem does not occur.
it could be the effec of unlinking and linking the keyboard or because
of a diffedrent usb port.
i have usb 3 and usb 2 ports on this machine although i don;t know if
that matters in this case.
any way thanks for your help.
aad
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 15:28:05 +0000
"Richard Turner" <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Have you tried a different keyboard?

That sounds like the minus key on the numpad is getting activated at random.



Richard

?? Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aad leeflang
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws

hello marten
yes i am still using becky.
it allso happens in other programms for example in notepad.
and it allso heppens while i am typing.
sometimes it says jaws, sometimes it says "invisible"
so it is not only accuring duringthe enter keystroke.
aad





On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:54:32 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

I think the program you are writing the message in is doing something
so jaws thins that it must go to the virtual pc cursor. Instead of
enter, try shift-enter.

The mail-program you are writing your message in, is that still Becky
mail?
Do you have this problem in other programs too?>

Regards, Marten


On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 13:50:15 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello marten,
no i allso have this when i write this mail to you and press enter
to create a new line.
my pc says than: jaws and i have to switch it nanually back to pc.
i allso had this in jaws 2019 so it does not have to do with jaws 2020.
all the best
aad

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:53:40 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten



On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020 i often run into the problem
that while typing a message or doing some work on my pc the pc
cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the
next line i hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the
numeric + to get back to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for
this is verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>






--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

Richard Turner
 

Have you tried a different keyboard?

That sounds like the minus key on the numpad is getting activated at random.



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aad leeflang
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws

hello marten
yes i am still using becky.
it allso happens in other programms for example in notepad.
and it allso heppens while i am typing.
sometimes it says jaws, sometimes it says "invisible"
so it is not only accuring duringthe enter keystroke.
aad





On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:54:32 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

I think the program you are writing the message in is doing something
so jaws thins that it must go to the virtual pc cursor. Instead of
enter, try shift-enter.

The mail-program you are writing your message in, is that still Becky
mail?
Do you have this problem in other programs too?>

Regards, Marten


On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 13:50:15 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello marten,
no i allso have this when i write this mail to you and press enter
to create a new line.
my pc says than: jaws and i have to switch it nanually back to pc.
i allso had this in jaws 2019 so it does not have to do with jaws 2020.
all the best
aad

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:53:40 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten



On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020 i often run into the problem
that while typing a message or doing some work on my pc the pc
cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the
next line i hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the
numeric + to get back to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for
this is verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

aad leeflang
 

hello marten
yes i am still using becky.
it allso happens in other programms for example in notepad.
and it allso heppens while i am typing.
sometimes it says jaws, sometimes it says "invisible"
so it is not only accuring duringthe enter keystroke.
aad





On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:54:32 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

I think the program you are writing the message in is doing something so
jaws thins that it must go to the virtual pc cursor. Instead of enter,
try shift-enter.

The mail-program you are writing your message in, is that still Becky
mail?
Do you have this problem in other programs too?>

Regards, Marten


On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 13:50:15 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello marten,
no i allso have this when i write this mail to you and press enter to
create a new line.
my pc says than: jaws and i have to switch it nanually back to pc.
i allso had this in jaws 2019 so it does not have to do with jaws 2020.
all the best
aad

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:53:40 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten



On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Aad,

I think the program you are writing the message in is doing something so
jaws thins that it must go to the virtual pc cursor. Instead of enter,
try shift-enter.

The mail-program you are writing your message in, is that still Becky
mail?
Do you have this problem in other programs too?>

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 13:50:15 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello marten,
no i allso have this when i write this mail to you and press enter to
create a new line.
my pc says than: jaws and i have to switch it nanually back to pc.
i allso had this in jaws 2019 so it does not have to do with jaws 2020.
all the best
aad

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:53:40 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten



On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>


moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

aad leeflang
 

hello bernard,
my cursor is turned on for all applications.
it does not change the behaviour.
aad
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 20:53:42 -0800
"Mike B" <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

I wonder if the virtual cursor isn't turned on for all applications. Here's
something you can try. While in any application, hold down the Insert key
and tap the, Z, key twice quickly. What you want to hear is, the virtual
cursor will be turned on for all applications. If you hear, the virtual
cursor will be turned off for all applications, do the keystroke, Insert + Z
twice quickly, to toggle it to on for all applications.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws


I've never run across this. Which keyboard layout are you using?







Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner




On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aad leeflang <aad@...> wrote:


?hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>








--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

aad leeflang
 

i am using
the desktop layaout. qwerti keyboard
aad
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 03:05:24 +0000
"Richard Turner" <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I've never run across this. Which keyboard layout are you using?




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aad leeflang <aad@...> wrote:

?hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>






--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

aad leeflang
 

hello marten,
no i allso have this when i write this mail to you and press enter to
create a new line.
my pc says than: jaws and i have to switch it nanually back to pc.
i allso had this in jaws 2019 so it does not have to do with jaws 2020.
all the best
aad

On Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:53:40 +0100
"Marten Post Uiterweer" <martenpu@...> wrote:

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten



On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>



--
aad leeflang <aad@...>

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

Mike B
 


Hi Abraham,
 
Just a suggestion to maybe experiment with.  Have you looked in your Settings Center default all applications at the following setting.  It's located in the, Miscellaneous, folder #24 of 25.  Or, possibly changing your forms mode settings.
 
Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs checked

When this check box is selected, JAWS remembers the current state of the Virtual Cursor when toggled using INSERT+Z for a tab in Google Chrome. For example, if you choose to turn the Virtual Cursor off in a web application such as GMail which offers a better user experience, and then you press CTRL+N or CTRL+T to open a web page in a new tab, the Virtual Cursor will be turned back on, but will remain off in GMail. This allows you to move focus back to GMail and not have to remember to disable the Virtual Cursor again. The Virtual Cursor reverts back to its default setting when you close the browser tab or restart JAWS.
Clearing this check box causes the Virtual Cursor to go back to the default setting when focus changes as it did in prior versions. For example, if you turn it off in GMail and then press ALT+TAB to move to another window, the Virtual Cursor will be turned back on when focus returns to GMail.
This check box is selected by default. For technical reasons, this feature only works in Chrome at this time.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws

I run into this issue on a daily bases with both FF and crome .
I run SalesForce in FF and when entering in text, things start off
welll and then for some reason switches to  the jaws cursor.  I also
run into this behavior when trying to update a work item in a GIT Repo
.
For crome, I run Slack and I can enter in a comment.  Once i hit the
enter key it switches to the jaws cursor.
I have a fully patched Windows 10 laptop and also keep FF and Crome up
 to date.  I use  the standard  desktop keyboard which is connected
through a docking station to my  laptop.
And for the cursor not turned on for all applications.  If that was
the case then would expect consistent behavior where it either does
not work all the time or works all the time.  And not start working
and then for some unknown reason other then pressing enter it switches
to the jaws cursor

BTW: I understand that will be told to contact  support but I have run
into issues where I am told no one else reported the issue then get on
calls with other   jaws users who ran into the same issue and was told
the same thing from support.


On 2/7/20, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
> I wonder if the virtual cursor isn't turned on for all applications.  Here's
>
> something you can try. While in any application, hold down the Insert key
> and tap the, Z, key twice quickly.  What you want to hear is, the virtual
> cursor will  be turned on for all applications.  If you hear, the virtual
> cursor will be turned off for all applications, do the keystroke, Insert + Z
>
> twice quickly, to toggle it to on for all applications.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Turner
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws
>
>
> I've never run across this. Which keyboard layout are you using?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
>
>
>   On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aad leeflang <aad@...> wrote:
>
>
>   hello all
>   in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
>   i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
>   work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
>   for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
>   hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
>   to pc.
>   does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
>   verry disturbing.
>   aad
>   --
>   aad leeflang <aad@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Thanks,
Abraham


moderated Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Sieghard.

I think what the original questioner wanted to know was how to disable the sound that you hear when the autocomplete list is generated but not how to disable Outlook's autocomplete feature, which I agree is extremely useful. I personally find that particular sound to be extremely jarring and harsh on my ears, particularly when I use a headset. I believe this sound is from JAWS and not from Outlook and I personally find it annoying. I don't believe there is a setting to disable that particular sound from within Quick Settings and there really needs to be. The various sounds are located in the folder

C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\Settings\enu\SOUNDS

and there are two Outlook autocomplete sound files, one for start and the other for end. A user could substitute their own sound files for the defaults, ensuring that they properly rename them back to the original names of the files to ensure that they still work. It is likely that deleting these files without replacing them would just result in no sounds at all without breaking the Outlook scripts but I haven't tried it to verify.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/8/2020 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Not sure why you wouldn’t want auto-complete, I use it all the time since mostly I just have to type a few characters of the person’s name and then I can arrow if necessary to find the person.

But to turn it off just go to File > Options, go to the Mail category and then tab about 40 times, if you don’t want to tab that much you can also press Alt + G when you are on the Mail category.

But of course if you do tab through all these options, you get to know what they are and it’s always good to know where things are and what you can change/customize.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi.

 

When I’m typing an e-mail, in the to field, jaws will play a sound that indicates recent people you’ve contacted. Is there a way to turn this off, and where do I find it?

 

Thanks.

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Aad,

Do you have this only on webpages?

What browser are you using?

Regards, marten

On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 16:57:16 +0100 "aad leeflang" <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>


moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

Abraham Sweiss
 

I run into this issue on a daily bases with both FF and crome .
I run SalesForce in FF and when entering in text, things start off
welll and then for some reason switches to the jaws cursor. I also
run into this behavior when trying to update a work item in a GIT Repo
.
For crome, I run Slack and I can enter in a comment. Once i hit the
enter key it switches to the jaws cursor.
I have a fully patched Windows 10 laptop and also keep FF and Crome up
to date. I use the standard desktop keyboard which is connected
through a docking station to my laptop.
And for the cursor not turned on for all applications. If that was
the case then would expect consistent behavior where it either does
not work all the time or works all the time. And not start working
and then for some unknown reason other then pressing enter it switches
to the jaws cursor

BTW: I understand that will be told to contact support but I have run
into issues where I am told no one else reported the issue then get on
calls with other jaws users who ran into the same issue and was told
the same thing from support.

On 2/7/20, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
I wonder if the virtual cursor isn't turned on for all applications. Here's

something you can try. While in any application, hold down the Insert key
and tap the, Z, key twice quickly. What you want to hear is, the virtual
cursor will be turned on for all applications. If you hear, the virtual
cursor will be turned off for all applications, do the keystroke, Insert + Z

twice quickly, to toggle it to on for all applications.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws


I've never run across this. Which keyboard layout are you using?







Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner




On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aad leeflang <aad@...> wrote:


hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>









--
Thanks,
Abraham

moderated Re: picture smart

 

I don’t use Jaws 2019 any more so not sure if it has a Help Topic, but Jaws 2020 certainly does have a Help Topic for Picture Smart under the reference tools book.

Here is what that information is:

 

Picture Smart

Picture Smart allows you to choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then displayed in the JAWS Results Viewer window. Descriptions might include details such as the number of people in the photo, recognizable landmarks, landscape details such as "outdoors with a blue sky and green grass," if there are vehicles such as automobiles or trains, and more. If there is text in the picture, it will OCR the text and provide that as well.

To use Picture Smart, use the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by P. Once the Picture Smart layer is active, the following keystrokes are available:

  • A - Opens the Picture Smart dialog box where you can acquire an image from a flatbed scanner or the Freedom Scientific PEARL camera and submit it to be described.
  • F - Describes the currently selected image in File Explorer. Supported images include BMP, JPEG, GIF, TIF, or PNG.
  • C - Describes an image associated with the current control. For instance, a graphic on a web page or in an email message.
  • B - Describes the contents of the Windows Clipboard if it contains an image.
  • QUESTION MARK - Displays help for the Picture Smart layer.

There is also a PictureSmart folder where you can save an image and have it automatically submitted for analyzing and display the resulting description. To access this folder, press WINDOWS Key+E to open File Explorer, open the Pictures folder, and then open the PictureSmart folder.

To use Picture Smart, the "submit annonymous usage data" option must be enabled in Settings Center. This sends encrypted information to Freedom Scientific. The images from Picture Smart are then submitted to the various services (such as Microsoft and Google) which analyze the images and returns the descriptions back to JAWS. These descriptions are then displayed in the Results Viewer. If you attempt to use Picture Smart and this setting is off, a message displays prompting you to turn it on.

Note: Picture Smart is currently only available while in the English Language UI of JAWS and Fusion as the services that perform the image analysis do not currently support international languages for descriptions of images.

For users of localized versions of JAWS running in versions of Windows other than English, you must switch the JAWS UI language to English to try out this feature. We plan to make Picture Smart available in more languages in the future as these services continue to expand to include additional languages.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 8:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart

 

Hi Mitch,

 

Here's an explanation and I'll follow up with keystrokes and such in another message.

 

 Be Smart and Learn About Your Pictures with JAWS and Fusion!
Submitted by brianhartgen on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 13:14
 
Introduction.
 
Within the March 2019 JAWS for Windows and Fusion updates, a new feature is available called Picture Smart. This has the promise to be fantastic technology.
Currently as suggested above it is in its early stages of development, but nevertheless it is a useful feature.
 
We haven't seen much information at all regarding Picture Smart, and there is no help topic available in JAWS or Fusion to support it. So lets walk you
through it.
 
So what is it?
 
Picture Smart allows you to choose an image on your computer and submit it over the internet to be analyzed. A description of the image is then displayed
in the JAWS Results Viewer window. This is a window which overlays the current application or environment in which you are working, allowing you to examine
the text without causing any disturbance to your normal working condition. It's the more modern version of the JAWS Virtual Viewer.
 
Descriptions of pictures might include details such as the number of people in the photo, recognizable landmarks, landscape details such as "outdoors with
a blue sky and green grass," if there are vehicles such as cars or trains, and more. If there is text in the picture, it will scan the text using Optical
Character Recognition technology and provide that as well.
 
How Do I Use It?
 
The following is a list of keystrokes found within the JAWS or Fusion products, together with voice commands which can be used with our J-Say product as
of 15 April this year.
 
To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by P. JAWS says "Picture Smart". Once the Picture Smart keyboard layer is active, the following keystrokes
are available. J-Say users of course do not need to press Insert Space then P.
 
list of 5 items
• A - Open the Picture Smart dialog box where you can acquire an image from a flatbed scanner or the Freedom Scientific PEARL camera. Voice command: "Picture
with Camera".
• F - Describes the currently selected image in File Explorer. Supported images include BMP, JPEG, GIF, TIF, or PNG. Voice command: "Picture with File".
Note that you must have located an image on your computer first, such as within File Explorer, prior to executing this command or keystroke.
• C - Describes an image associated with the current control. For instance, a graphic on a web page or in an email message. Voice command: "Picture with
Control". Note in our experience this is a feature which does not work particularly well at present. If it finds a picture at all, often surrounding text
on the page is encapsulated within the description.
• B - Describes the contents of the Windows Clipboard if it contains an image. Voice command: "Picture with Clipboard".
• QUESTION MARK - Displays help for the Picture Smart layer.
list end
 
There is also a new PictureSmart folder where you can save an image and have it automatically submitted for analyzing and display the resulting description.
To access this folder, press WINDOWS Key+E to open File Explorer, open the Pictures folder, and then open the PictureSmart folder.
 
It is our suggestion that this should be placed on the JAWS Utilities menu for easier access. While JAWS does a good job of monitoring this folder for
changes, the only way of examining the description at a later date is to remove the picture and place it back in the folder.
 
What Kind of Information Does Picture Smart Give You?
 
Doubtless the information returned by Picture Smart will be refined over time. However, because the results are being collated by using two scanning recognition
services, it could be that you will experience some duplication of information. Our view however is that it is better to have duplicated information than
none at all.
 
Prior to scanning a picture, JAWS will advise you that "Picture Smart is in Progress".
 
Here is a sample of what you might expect, taken from the JAWS Results Viewer.
 
Caption is a man holding a golf club.
This object appears in the photo
 
Person.
 
This object probably appears in the photo
 
Man.
 
These tags describe the photo
 
athletic game, golf, Golf club, Golf course, Golf equipment, Golfer, grass, Grassland, Highland, mountain, outdoor, Pitch and putt, Professional golfer,
sky, sport, Sport venue.
 
This tag probably describes the photo
 
person.
 
If there are famous people which form part of the image, JAWS may return the name of that person. I'm obviously not famous at all as it doesn't recognise
me! But nor should it.
 
Conclusion.
 
To use Picture Smart, the "submit annonymous usage data" option must be enabled in the JAWS Settings Center. This sends encrypted information to Vispero.
The images from Picture Smart are then submitted to the various services (such as Microsoft and Google) which analyze the images and return the descriptions
back to them. As has been described, these descriptions are then displayed in the Results Viewer. If you attempt to use Picture Smart and this setting
is off, a message displays prompting you to turn it on. Simply press Tab to reach the "Yes" Button and press the Space Bar.
 
Note that the "Anonymous Usage Data" sending is also controllable via the "Startup Wizard" when JAWS or Fusion is first installed, or it can be reached
via the JAWS Window by pressing ALT+H then Z.
 
We do hope this technology continues to evolve, particularly in the area of describing images on web sites such as Facebook.  For those people who purchased
our thorough
training course in the use of Microsoft PowerPoint,
 an audio demonstration of this feature together with comments are available as part of Lesson 5. Picture Smart is of course closely associated with PowerPoint,
since you can verify your pictures prior to placing them into presentations.
 
We hope you have found this blog post useful! If you would like to find out more about our archived online Training Courses, or on site training within
the UK, please visit our
Training page!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mich Verrier

Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: picture smart

 

Hi all what is this picture smart? Is it some sort of way for jaws to identify pictures? And if so what version of jaws does it run on? Or is this something that you hve to download and run? From Mich.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: February 7, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart

 

Jaws key/space bar/p.  Layered key stroke.

On 2/7/2020 3:16 PM, dennis wrote:

could someone tell me the key stroke to get picture smart to work? thanks in advance.

--
Dennis Cornelison

moderated Re: picture smart

 

Have you enabled “Submit anonymous usage data” in Jaws Settings Centre, Picture Smart will not work if that is disabled.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart

 

Well, why didn’t mine do that?  LOL

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: picture smart

 



Hi Marty,

 

I just pasted a picture of our ex-speedboat into the Picture Smart folder and it started scanning immediately.  This is the results.

 

 

This text appears in the photo

LRT
ELITE.

This object appears in the photo

Tire.

This object possibly appears in the photo

Toy.

These tags describe the photo

indoor, land vehicle, Motor vehicle, vehicle, Water transportation.

These tags probably describe the photo

Bass boat, Boat trailer, wheel.

These tags possibly describe the photo

auto part, Automotive exterior, car, Skiff, Speedboat.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: picture smart

 

I just found the PictureSmart folder in My Pictures and pasted a Jpeg into this folder.  Nothing happened.  When I pressed JAWS key plus Space bar then P then F, JAWS then described the picture, but it did not start automatically with JFW 2019.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 1:48 PM

Subject: Re: picture smart

 

Another way is, if you have a picture as a .JPEG or some other picture format save it somewhere, then copy / paste it into the Picture Smart folder and once it's pasted into this folder the Picture Smart feature will start on it as soon as it's pasted.  The Picture Smart folder is located in your User Name folder as a sub-folder of the My Pictures folder.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: dennis

Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 11:20 AM

Subject: Re: picture smart

 

thanks john. what if it's in an email or on a webpage?

On 2/7/2020 12:36 PM, John Doering wrote:

Dennis:

Open the picture.

Select all with a control a.

Save to clipboard with a control c

Then JAWS key plus space bar, then p then b.

That should start the Picture Smart.

You also can try.

Select the file of the picture.

Then Jaws key plus space bar then p then f.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: picture smart

 

could someone tell me the key stroke to get picture smart to work? thanks in advance.

--
Dennis Cornelison

--
Dennis Cornelison

moderated Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Not sure why you wouldn’t want auto-complete, I use it all the time since mostly I just have to type a few characters of the person’s name and then I can arrow if necessary to find the person.

But to turn it off just go to File > Options, go to the Mail category and then tab about 40 times, if you don’t want to tab that much you can also press Alt + G when you are on the Mail category.

But of course if you do tab through all these options, you get to know what they are and it’s always good to know where things are and what you can change/customize.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi.

 

When I’m typing an e-mail, in the to field, jaws will play a sound that indicates recent people you’ve contacted. Is there a way to turn this off, and where do I find it?

 

Thanks.

moderated Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

If you press Jaws Key + NumPad 3, does it say something like this:

 

Items in View 67. Unread Items in View 65. Progress All folders are up to date. Connectivity to your server. Connected to: Microsoft Exchange

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

I think I am missing something here.  I too use my exchange accounts primarily however, when I do open my Gmail account using office 365, it does tell me how many unread messages I have.  Perhaps the query about message count means something else? 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 7, 2020 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

Interesting, I recently set up my ?Gmail account in Outlook and you are correct, it says it’s connected to the server and all that, but it does not give a message count.

Oh well, I rarely use that account for anything since I much prefer the Exchange way for mail, contacts and such.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

It works perfectly for me in a Microsoft Exchange folder, but it doesn’t report the number of messages in an IMAP folder.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 09:02
To: "main@jfw.groups.io" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

As Seigart said, you need to use the num pad on your keyboard.  Following his clear instructions nets the result he mentioned, I tested it and got the same message he stated, save I have more messages. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marcia Moses
Sent: February 5, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

When I press insert plus the 3, it says""pass key through."

I'm using Jaws 2020, windows ten and Outlook 2016.

Marcia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

That keystroke works for me, but when it doesn’t it usually is because Outlook is displaying some message somewhere which you may or may not be able to get to with Jaws to dismiss it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denise J Moses
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:47 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: seeing how many messages I have in Outlook

 

I used to be able to press JAWS key plus 3 on the number pad & it would tell me how many email messages I have.  I use Outlook 2016, Windows 10 & JAWS 2018.  How do I get this to work again?

 

Thank you.

Denise

moderated Re: enoing problem in jaws

Mike B
 


I wonder if the virtual cursor isn't turned on for all applications.  Here's something you can try. While in any application, hold down the Insert key and tap the, Z, key twice quickly.  What you want to hear is, the virtual cursor will  be turned on for all applications.  If you hear, the virtual cursor will be turned off for all applications, do the keystroke, Insert + Z twice quickly, to toggle it to on for all applications.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: enoing problem in jaws

I've never run across this. Which keyboard layout are you using?




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aad leeflang <aad@...> wrote:

hello all
in jaws 2019 and allso in jaws 2020
i often run into the problem that while typing a message or doing some
work on my pc the pc cursor jumps to the jaws cursor.
for instance when i write a meesage and give an enter to the next line i
hear myh speech say "jaws" and i have to press the numeric + to get back
to pc.
does anyone has the same and if so how to deal with this, for this is
verry disturbing.
aad
--
aad leeflang <aad@...>




moderated Picture Smart Keystrokes

Mike B
 


J2019.1903.9 keystroke to scan pictures:
 
 Insert and Space bar, followed by the letter, P, then the letter, F.
 
Picture Smart for Describing Images with JAWS and Fusion
 
Picture Smart allows you to choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A
description of the image is then displayed in the JAWS Results Viewer
window.
Descriptions might include details such as the number of people in the
photo, recognizable landmarks, landscape details such as "outdoors with a
blue sky and green grass," if there are vehicles such as automobiles or
trains, and
more. If there is text in the picture, it will OCR the text and provide that
as well.
 
To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by P. Once the Picture
Smart layer is active, the following keystrokes are available:
 
list of 5 items
• A - Open the Picture Smart dialog box where you can acquire an image from
a flatbed scanner or the Freedom Scientific PEARL camera.
• F - Describes the currently selected image in File Explorer. Supported
images include BMP, JPEG, GIF, TIF, or PNG.
• C - Describes an image associated with the current control. For instance,
a graphic on a web page or in an email message.
• B - Describes the contents of the Windows Clipboard if it contains an
image.
• QUESTION MARK - Displays help for the Picture Smart layer.
list end
 
JAWS now also creates a new PictureSmart folder which is located in your
user documents folder under My Pictures. If a single image is saved to this
folder,
JAWS will automatically submit it for analyzing and display the resulting
description.
 
To use Picture Smart, the "submit annonymous usage data" option must be
enabled in Settings Center. This sends encrypted information to Freedom
Scientific.
The images from Picture Smart are then submitted to the various services
(such as Microsoft and Google) which analyze the images and returns the
descriptions
back to us. These descriptions are then displayed in the Results Viewer. If
you attempt to use Picture Smart and this setting is off, a message displays
prompting you to turn it on.
 
Note: Picture Smart is currently only available while in the English
Language UI of JAWS and Fusion as the services that perform the image
analysis do
not currently support international languages for descriptions of images.
For users of localized versions of JAWS running in versions of Windows other
than English, you must switch the JAWS UI language to English to try out
this feature. We plan to make Picture Smart available in more languages in
the
future as these services continue to expand to include additional languages.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

moderated Re: picture smart

Mike B
 


Hi Mitch,
 
Here's an explanation and I'll follow up with keystrokes and such in another message.
 
 Be Smart and Learn About Your Pictures with JAWS and Fusion!
Submitted by brianhartgen on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 13:14
 
Introduction.
 
Within the March 2019 JAWS for Windows and Fusion updates, a new feature is available called Picture Smart. This has the promise to be fantastic technology.
Currently as suggested above it is in its early stages of development, but nevertheless it is a useful feature.
 
We haven't seen much information at all regarding Picture Smart, and there is no help topic available in JAWS or Fusion to support it. So lets walk you
through it.
 
So what is it?
 
Picture Smart allows you to choose an image on your computer and submit it over the internet to be analyzed. A description of the image is then displayed
in the JAWS Results Viewer window. This is a window which overlays the current application or environment in which you are working, allowing you to examine
the text without causing any disturbance to your normal working condition. It's the more modern version of the JAWS Virtual Viewer.
 
Descriptions of pictures might include details such as the number of people in the photo, recognizable landmarks, landscape details such as "outdoors with
a blue sky and green grass," if there are vehicles such as cars or trains, and more. If there is text in the picture, it will scan the text using Optical
Character Recognition technology and provide that as well.
 
How Do I Use It?
 
The following is a list of keystrokes found within the JAWS or Fusion products, together with voice commands which can be used with our J-Say product as
of 15 April this year.
 
To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by P. JAWS says "Picture Smart". Once the Picture Smart keyboard layer is active, the following keystrokes
are available. J-Say users of course do not need to press Insert Space then P.
 
list of 5 items
• A - Open the Picture Smart dialog box where you can acquire an image from a flatbed scanner or the Freedom Scientific PEARL camera. Voice command: "Picture
with Camera".
• F - Describes the currently selected image in File Explorer. Supported images include BMP, JPEG, GIF, TIF, or PNG. Voice command: "Picture with File".
Note that you must have located an image on your computer first, such as within File Explorer, prior to executing this command or keystroke.
• C - Describes an image associated with the current control. For instance, a graphic on a web page or in an email message. Voice command: "Picture with
Control". Note in our experience this is a feature which does not work particularly well at present. If it finds a picture at all, often surrounding text
on the page is encapsulated within the description.
• B - Describes the contents of the Windows Clipboard if it contains an image. Voice command: "Picture with Clipboard".
• QUESTION MARK - Displays help for the Picture Smart layer.
list end
 
There is also a new PictureSmart folder where you can save an image and have it automatically submitted for analyzing and display the resulting description.
To access this folder, press WINDOWS Key+E to open File Explorer, open the Pictures folder, and then open the PictureSmart folder.
 
It is our suggestion that this should be placed on the JAWS Utilities menu for easier access. While JAWS does a good job of monitoring this folder for
changes, the only way of examining the description at a later date is to remove the picture and place it back in the folder.
 
What Kind of Information Does Picture Smart Give You?
 
Doubtless the information returned by Picture Smart will be refined over time. However, because the results are being collated by using two scanning recognition
services, it could be that you will experience some duplication of information. Our view however is that it is better to have duplicated information than
none at all.
 
Prior to scanning a picture, JAWS will advise you that "Picture Smart is in Progress".
 
Here is a sample of what you might expect, taken from the JAWS Results Viewer.
 
Caption is a man holding a golf club.
This object appears in the photo
 
Person.
 
This object probably appears in the photo
 
Man.
 
These tags describe the photo
 
athletic game, golf, Golf club, Golf course, Golf equipment, Golfer, grass, Grassland, Highland, mountain, outdoor, Pitch and putt, Professional golfer,
sky, sport, Sport venue.
 
This tag probably describes the photo
 
person.
 
If there are famous people which form part of the image, JAWS may return the name of that person. I'm obviously not famous at all as it doesn't recognise
me! But nor should it.
 
Conclusion.
 
To use Picture Smart, the "submit annonymous usage data" option must be enabled in the JAWS Settings Center. This sends encrypted information to Vispero.
The images from Picture Smart are then submitted to the various services (such as Microsoft and Google) which analyze the images and return the descriptions
back to them. As has been described, these descriptions are then displayed in the Results Viewer. If you attempt to use Picture Smart and this setting
is off, a message displays prompting you to turn it on. Simply press Tab to reach the "Yes" Button and press the Space Bar.
 
Note that the "Anonymous Usage Data" sending is also controllable via the "Startup Wizard" when JAWS or Fusion is first installed, or it can be reached
via the JAWS Window by pressing ALT+H then Z.
 
We do hope this technology continues to evolve, particularly in the area of describing images on web sites such as Facebook.  For those people who purchased
our thorough
training course in the use of Microsoft PowerPoint,
 an audio demonstration of this feature together with comments are available as part of Lesson 5. Picture Smart is of course closely associated with PowerPoint,
since you can verify your pictures prior to placing them into presentations.
 
We hope you have found this blog post useful! If you would like to find out more about our archived online Training Courses, or on site training within
the UK, please visit our
Training page!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: picture smart

Hi all what is this picture smart? Is it some sort of way for jaws to identify pictures? And if so what version of jaws does it run on? Or is this something that you hve to download and run? From Mich.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: February 7, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart

 

Jaws key/space bar/p.  Layered key stroke.

On 2/7/2020 3:16 PM, dennis wrote:

could someone tell me the key stroke to get picture smart to work? thanks in advance.

--
Dennis Cornelison