Date   
moderated Re: Row Headers

Chris
 

This is because this particular folder is grouped by date as default

 

To change this behaviour deselect all files in the folder , then do a right click and from the menu set the group by sub menu to none, then all should be right with the world once again, have a nice day :D

 

From: Elise Berkley
Sent: 16 March 2020 21:24
To: jfw
Subject: Row Headers

 

Hello, all.

For some reason, under "this pc" these annoying row headers have shown

up. It is like my downloads, etc. are listed by "earlier this week",

"yesterday", etc. I need to get rid of these headers. Can someone help

me out? Thanks.

Windows 10, JAWS 2018

Elise Berkley

 

 

 

moderated Re: Row Headers

Bill White
 

Hi, Elise.


1. Open the downloads folder.
2. Make sure nothing is selected with CONTROL plus SPACE.
3. Press Applications key or F10.
4. Arrow down to Group by submenu and press ENTER.
5. Arrow down to none, and press ENTER.

This should get rid of the row headers.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:25 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Row Headers

Hello, all.
For some reason, under "this pc" these annoying row headers have shown
up. It is like my downloads, etc. are listed by "earlier this week",
"yesterday", etc. I need to get rid of these headers. Can someone help
me out? Thanks.
Windows 10, JAWS 2018
Elise Berkley

moderated Row Headers

Elise Berkley
 

Hello, all.
For some reason, under "this pc" these annoying row headers have shown
up. It is like my downloads, etc. are listed by "earlier this week",
"yesterday", etc. I need to get rid of these headers. Can someone help
me out? Thanks.
Windows 10, JAWS 2018
Elise Berkley

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 04:35 PM, Shai wrote:
On the websites that have this activity, is the show password on the website checked?
Never thought of that, which could be.  That being said, the show password option (usually a button at the right side of the password text entry box) will always default to off unless you activate it.  And even if you activate it, it should only work for that instance.  I have never seen show password being toggled on persisting over time.

I am endlessly amazed how often the request is made to either show and/or announce passwords when typed.  Whether it's at home alone or not, it's just bad practice that's very hard to wean yourself off of if you use it frequently.  It makes a lot more sense to use a password manager and either copy and paste or, for many sites and with a number of password managers, have it automatically enter your login ID and password for you.  The automated population of those fields is being made more difficult these days by design, as it prevents machine based attempts to log in via scripting that uses the same technique.  Some sites are even making it impossible to paste a password in to a password field.   It really pays to use what I call, The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords, and typing yourself all the time.  Passwords created that way tend to roll very quickly off the fingers after you are fully acclimated to your chosen fixed elements and where you fix them.  They also become incredibly easy to remember, or even guess, for the individual that created them but only that individual.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

Shai
 

Hello,
There is no such check box. On the websites that have this activity,
is the show password on the website checked? Perhaps that is checked
and why JAWS is reading out the password. I would ensure that show
password on the site you are trying to log into is not checked if
there is such an option.
I would also recommend a JAWS repair because I am not having this
behavior in JAWS2020.

On 3/16/20, Sameer <salatey@...> wrote:

Dear List Friends,

Whenever I try to type a password, JAWS reads out the actual keys being
pressed instead of reading “star, star”. In previous versions, JAWS did not
echo passwords but read them as “star, star”.

This problem has been happening in both Chrome & Firefox with JAWS 2020 but
not with JAWS 2019. My OS is Windows 10.

Kindly guide me as to what settings I should change in JAWS 2020 so that it
does not echo passwords.

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India



moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

 

I hope that one of these days Vispero clues in and stops making me, and others who use JAWS only occasionally and only in demo mode, have to restart our computers if they've been on for more than 40 minutes.  How long the computer has been on is irrelevant when I haven't touched JAWS in several months.  I'd be perfectly happy for it to start counting, and remember how long it's been used, cutting you off at the 40 minute limit, but the whole thing of looking at how long the machine has been running rather than how long JAWS has been running is ridiculous.

I can't even help with JAWS 2019, as I'm not about to restart my machine at the moment.

Forgive the venting, I now return you to someone else who can look into JAWS settings and use the search feature to find password, which has to be in there, somewhere.  It's either that, or a script.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated speaking passwords

Don H
 

Someone on the list said there was a setting for speaking passwords with Jaws. Is there really such a setting and where is it.
Thanks

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

netbat66
 

i wished jaws did have this option. i am tired of haveing to copy and paste my passwords from notepad into the password box.
thats why i continue to use window eyes for this. it has the option to turn the speaking of the keys i press on. or off.
this is at home. i don't have to worry about someone else stealing my passwords.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Diamond
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"



Most likely you’ve got it set to read out passwords. Uncheck that box.

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

Don H
 

where is this setting for getting jaws to read passwords? FS told me there was no such setting.

On 3/16/2020 1:59 PM, David Diamond wrote:
Most likely you’ve got it set to read out passwords.  Uncheck that box.

moderated Re: JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

David Diamond
 

Most likely you’ve got it set to read out passwords.  Uncheck that box. 

moderated JAWS reads out passwords instead of reading "star, star"

Sameer
 

 
Dear List Friends,
 
Whenever I try to type a password, JAWS reads out the actual keys being pressed instead of reading “star, star”. In previous versions, JAWS did not echo passwords but read them as “star, star”.
 
This problem has been happening in both Chrome & Firefox with JAWS 2020 but not with JAWS 2019. My OS is Windows 10.
 
Kindly guide me as to what settings I should change in JAWS 2020 so that it does not echo passwords.
 
Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.
 
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India

moderated Re: Masen Consulting Announcement: My Audiobook about Zoom Cloud Meetings is now free

Don Mauck
 

What a gracious thing to do. That’s good on you!!

 

From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mosen Consulting Announcement: My Audiobook about Zoom Cloud Meetings is now free

 

What follows is not JAWS related, but given the circumstances with the COVID-19 pandemic I believe it is important enough that it warrants posting here.  This topic is intended as a "public service announcement," so can be locked immediately.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From:

Jonathan Mosen <jonathan@...>

 

 

Kia ora everyone, from a beautiful Wellington New Zealand.

As many of you know, I’m now CEO of a national organisation here in New Zealand. I’m no longer developing Mosen Consulting projects, but I keep titles available as long as they remain relevant. Occasionally, I check in to see what we have sold through our automated system.

Having just done this, I have noticed a sharp increase in the number of people buying my audiobook on Zoom Cloud Meetings, “Meet Me Accessibly”, which is a three-hour description of how to use Zoom on a range of platforms with a screen reader. There has been a very sharp spike in sales in just the last few days.

Clearly, this is because more people are already working from home or are preparing to do so.

I do not feel comfortable profiting from a need people have during a crisis that is unprecedented in living memory. If people need access to the material at a time like this, I can afford to give it away especially since Mosen Consulting is no longer my primary means of making a living.

I have therefore refunded in full everyone who has purchased “Meet Me Accessibly” during March, and made it free on the website. You are welcome to download it free and distribute it anywhere you want. The only thing I ask is that you please not change any of the files and that it be distributed in full.

Download it free from http://mosen.org/zoom

I hope this helps in some small way during a very tough time for many.

There is no sugar coating the fact that we are living through a very difficult period in history. But if we follow quality advice including regular handwashing and levels of isolation appropriate for the degree of outbreak in our country, we’ll get through it.

Let’s all do our best to stay safe, be mindful of the safety of others, and be kind.

Take care.

Jonathan

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Mosen Consulting Announcement: My Audiobook about Zoom Cloud Meetings is now free

 

What follows is not JAWS related, but given the circumstances with the COVID-19 pandemic I believe it is important enough that it warrants posting here.  This topic is intended as a "public service announcement," so can be locked immediately.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jonathan Mosen <jonathan@...>
   

Kia ora everyone, from a beautiful Wellington New Zealand.

As many of you know, I’m now CEO of a national organisation here in New Zealand. I’m no longer developing Mosen Consulting projects, but I keep titles available as long as they remain relevant. Occasionally, I check in to see what we have sold through our automated system.

Having just done this, I have noticed a sharp increase in the number of people buying my audiobook on Zoom Cloud Meetings, “Meet Me Accessibly”, which is a three-hour description of how to use Zoom on a range of platforms with a screen reader. There has been a very sharp spike in sales in just the last few days.

Clearly, this is because more people are already working from home or are preparing to do so.

I do not feel comfortable profiting from a need people have during a crisis that is unprecedented in living memory. If people need access to the material at a time like this, I can afford to give it away especially since Mosen Consulting is no longer my primary means of making a living.

I have therefore refunded in full everyone who has purchased “Meet Me Accessibly” during March, and made it free on the website. You are welcome to download it free and distribute it anywhere you want. The only thing I ask is that you please not change any of the files and that it be distributed in full.

Download it free from http://mosen.org/zoom

I hope this helps in some small way during a very tough time for many.

There is no sugar coating the fact that we are living through a very difficult period in history. But if we follow quality advice including regular handwashing and levels of isolation appropriate for the degree of outbreak in our country, we’ll get through it.

Let’s all do our best to stay safe, be mindful of the safety of others, and be kind.

Take care.

Jonathan

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Richard Turner
 

The only dumb question is the one not asked.
Screen Shade, or in iPhone terminology, Screen Curtain, makes the screen black so people cannot see what you have on your screen. It is a layered keystroke, insert+spacebar then f11.
Its a toggle.
HTH,



Richard
"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:35 AM, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:



i'm sorry for this dumb question but what is screen shade?

On 3/16/2020 7:47 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:

Are you able to actually see the screen turn black? Also what computer are you using?

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

I just tested and everything works as expected.

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:28 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

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moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

dennis
 

i'm sorry for this dumb question but what is screen shade?

On 3/16/2020 7:47 AM, Debbie April Yuille wrote:

Are you able to actually see the screen turn black? Also what computer are you using?

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

I just tested and everything works as expected.

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:28 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

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Virus-free. www.avast.com

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Abraham Sweiss
 

Screen shade also works on my desktop computer.
It also has windows 10 with jaws 2020.
It was custom-made, so no specific brand to specify.

Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Ok thanks. I need to hear from someone who is using a desktop PC not a laptop. Thanks anyway.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 11:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Yes both the screen on my laptop and my external monitor go black.

 

I have a Lenovo laptop which a plug into a docking station.

I am I have windows 10 with jaws 2020.

 

I would suggest pressing the windows key plus the letter P.
This should provide the interface to determine how your external monitor is viewed by your Windows operating system.
Or at least that just a combination I use and Lenovo.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Are you able to actually see the screen turn black? Also what computer are you using?

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

I just tested and everything works as expected.

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:28 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Debbie April Yuille
 

Ok thanks. I need to hear from someone who is using a desktop PC not a laptop. Thanks anyway.

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 11:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Yes both the screen on my laptop and my external monitor go black.

 

I have a Lenovo laptop which a plug into a docking station.

I am I have windows 10 with jaws 2020.

 

I would suggest pressing the windows key plus the letter P.
This should provide the interface to determine how your external monitor is viewed by your Windows operating system.
Or at least that just a combination I use and Lenovo.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Are you able to actually see the screen turn black? Also what computer are you using?

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

I just tested and everything works as expected.

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:28 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

moderated Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

Richard Turner
 

I don’t have a second monitor, but this is what you get with Windows+p:

Project  window

PROJECT list

PC screen only selected     

Duplicate

Extend

Second screen only

Connect to a wireless display link

link

HTH,

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 5:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

Yes both the screen on my laptop and my external monitor go black.

 

I have a Lenovo laptop which a plug into a docking station.

I am I have windows 10 with jaws 2020.

 

I would suggest pressing the windows key plus the letter P.
This should provide the interface to determine how your external monitor is viewed by your Windows operating system.
Or at least that just a combination I use and Lenovo.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Are you able to actually see the screen turn black? Also what computer are you using?

 

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Shade not Working with External Monitor

 

I just tested and everything works as expected.

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:28 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

Has anyone else found that the screen shade feature doesn’t work if you are using a desktop PC with an external monitor? I activate the command and it reports that it’s on but I can see that it isn’t. I’ve changed Monitors and it makes no difference. I’m using the latest builds of both JAWS and windows 10.

 

Debbie

moderated Re: JAWS, Amazon, and Firefox Problem solved

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks for explaining. I’ve learned a lot. And all my issues with Amazon seem to have vanished. Hurray!

 

Shirley

 

From: Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS, Amazon, and Firefox Problem solved

 

To improve performance, browsers save information about your login in their browser history. My suspicion is something became stale or corrupt which was causing unexpected issues. Clearing out the old data forced your browser to rebuild the history.

And for all those who are a bit more technical, something in the cash like a token or other artifact within the cookies or meditator may of become stale causing unexpected issues.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 15, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:

Thank all of you who responded to my question. I took someone’s suggestion, and I deleted history. Although I don’t know why, clearing it out fixed the problem. I placed an order and all is well. Now, I’m wondering why it worked—but with my limited technical talents, I’m just glad it did.   

 

Now I’ll be using Firefox more and not IE.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

moderated Re: Amazon, JAWS, and Firefox

Shirley Tracy
 

I,

 

Yes, it did the trick. Everything is working fine now. I had no idea that’s been the problem.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Pramit
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Amazon, JAWS, and Firefox

 

Hi Shirley,

 

If this is the first time you got the issue with FireFox running Amazon then clearing the cookies and cache of the firefox browser might fix your issue.

 

Hope this helps

 

Pramit

 

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:00 AM Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:

John, where the version number should be, it says 70.0. 64 bit. Does that sound reasonable? I don’t know enough to know.

The error says something to the effect that “We’re sorry but there has been an error with the order. Check your accounts….” I put in quotes, but it’s really a paraphrase. And then if I go to IE, I can get the usual screen and place the order.

 

I’m puzzled.  Is it JAWS? Amazon? Firefox? Or me?

 

Shirley