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moderated Re: orc apps

Glenn / Lenny
 

I didn't know that there was KNFB for windows.
I'd pay 10 for it, but not a hundred, as was mentioned, when there are good IOS apps.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: orc apps

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: orc apps

Richard Turner
 

As someone who has used Openbook since before it had that name, and was on the beta team for years, I'm pretty sure Openbook is dead, and they will just focus on Jaws Convenient OCR. 
I got KNFB reader for Windows when it was $10, and I guess I should revisit it. But, I would not go out and spend $100 for it when Jaws built in OCR is available, or Voice Dream Scanner, or Seeing AI.
Then there is SuperSense, which when on sale for half price, $49, could be worth it especially if they can do columns, which they are working on.
Of course, other than Jaws OCR and KNFB for Windows, these are all iPhone and Android apps.


Richard

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"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:



K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: orc apps

Dan Longmore
 

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS and reading/responding to comments in Word

Adrian Spratt
 

Cynthia,

 

I’m going to copy below my notes about a post from another lister, Leo, who describes his solution to this problem. I haven’t so far tried it myself. Note that although he refers to Word 2019, where he says the problem doesn’t exist, his solution appears to apply to earlier versions. If it works for you, I hope you’ll post back. Here goes:

 

I had problems working with office 2016. I'm now working with word 2019 and jaws 2020 and I'm able to reply to any comment. Besides, Whenever jaws comes across a footnote, it verbalizes it correctly. Footnote one, etc.

As for replying to the comments, you can try this:

First, go to the comment, whether listing the comments, (control plus shift plus semi column), or listing the virtual items, (windows key plus column).

However you do it, arrow down to find the comment you want to reply to, and hit enter.

press separately, alt , then r, then n.

Jaws now should announce that you're in the comment pain. Now bring up the context menu, and hopefully, you'll find the comments related options to reply, etc.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and reading/responding to comments in Word

 

Hi All,

 

I am running the most current version of JAWS 2021, and I think my version of word is current and up to date. I use comments in word a lot so I can provide feedback to students and respond to comments provided by my faculty colleagues. I can access the comments in a list by pressing the windows key + ;. I can also read them in the revisions pane and by pulling up a list using alt shift ;. However, if I come to a comment in the document while reading, I can’t read what is in the comment, and I can’t reply or edit. I have searched for solutions and followed all the steps from MS word help, but I can’t sort out what is going on.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

John Covici
 

If you just add the contact and send an Email, after that you will be
able to type the first couple of letters, etc. I am not sure you even
have to make the person a contact to do this.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:48:48 -0400,
Mario wrote:

regarding , this is what he told me he wants to do:

"I put the email address in the list.
now I am going to send them a email but I don't want to spell the hole name.
I can just put the first to letters of the name or what numbers or letters.
I do this with chris, I am sending her a email. all I punch in cf
(her first and last name initials) and her
email comes up and I do this with a lot of people that I email a lot
I hope that makes sense."

the verbage between the parentheses is my comment because I know
who the Chris he mentioned is. I don't know how what he is asking
can be accomplished. anyone have a clue?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 11:54 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and
wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact  to his list, and
"also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter
request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't
use Outlook. would someone please help.








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How do
you spend it?

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moderated Re: windows sign-in

Stan Holdeman
 

This was so easy. I am embarrassed that I tried to make it so hard.

Thanks, Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 9:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows sign-in

 

Hi,

I’ll forward this to a more relevant forum, but suffice to say that you must set up a password before enabling Windows Hello PIN method. You would do:

  1. Go to Settings (Windows+I)/Accounts/Sign-in options.
  2. Create a password for your account (don’t worry about creating a Microsoft Account unless you wish to use additional services). From Sign-in options, go to a list of sign-in options which includes Windows Hello Face, Password, among others. Select “Password” and create one if you haven’t done so.
  3. Test the password (log out and log in).
  4. Return to settings/Accounts/Sign-in options, then select Windows Hello PIN. You will be asked to enter your current password, along with setting up a PIN.

 

Note that Windows Hello Face and Fingerprint options will require appropriate hardware.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:47 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: windows sign-in

 

Dear Listers: I recently had to have a new hard drive and thus a new install of Windows 10.

 

Formerly after boot up I would get the Windows welcome with sign in in which I typed a 4 digit password which would sign me in. This was set up by the person who sold me the computer.

 

Now I go straight to Windows desktop with no need for sign in. I would like to have the added security of a sign in password. How do I do this? I have gone to settings, accounts, sign in options, but the page reads poorly and I can’t seem to proceed.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

Mario
 

regarding , this is what he told me he wants to do:

"I put the email address in the list.
now I am going to send them a email but I don't want to spell the hole name.
I can just put the first to letters of the name or what numbers or letters.
I do this with chris, I am sending her a email. all I punch in cf (her first and last name initials) and her
email comes up and I do this with a lot of people that I email a lot
I hope that makes sense."

the verbage between the parentheses is my comment because I know who the Chris he mentioned is. I don't know how what he is asking can be accomplished. anyone have a clue?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 11:54 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and
wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact  to his list, and
"also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter
request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't
use Outlook. would someone please help.








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moderated Re: Setting Winamp to work with JAWS

Gezim Rexha
 

Thank you so much, it worked.

Cheers,
Gezim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: e martë, 16 mars 2021 15:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Winamp to work with JAWS

try setting Winamp as the default program to handle audio files:

press windows+i.
tab once, down arrow to and spacebar on Apps.
tab once, down arrow to and spacebar on Default apps.
tab to and spacebar on Music player.
tab to and spacebar on Winamp.
alt+f4. done.

to reset it, choose a different program instead of Winamp, and then choose Winamp. sometimes it needs to be rerecognized which program is to handle audio files, although I hadn't had this problem since upgrading to Windows 10.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Gezim Rexha [mailto:gezim_rexha@hotmail.com]
To: jfw@groups.io <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 8:59 AM
Subject: Setting Winamp to work with JAWS Hi list,

I tried to open an audio file with Winamp, but it would not play; instead, it only opened an intro recording from Winamp. I would appreciate steps to set Winamp to properly work with JAWS.

Best regards,

Gezim


moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

Peter Tighe
 

The shortcut key for adding a new contact in outlook is shift-control-c


Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding Outlook contacts

a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact to his list, and "also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't use Outlook. would someone please help.


moderated adding Outlook contacts

Mario
 

a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact  to his list, and "also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't use Outlook. would someone please help.


moderated JAWS and reading/responding to comments in Word

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi All,

 

I am running the most current version of JAWS 2021, and I think my version of word is current and up to date. I use comments in word a lot so I can provide feedback to students and respond to comments provided by my faculty colleagues. I can access the comments in a list by pressing the windows key + ;. I can also read them in the revisions pane and by pulling up a list using alt shift ;. However, if I come to a comment in the document while reading, I can’t read what is in the comment, and I can’t reply or edit. I have searched for solutions and followed all the steps from MS word help, but I can’t sort out what is going on.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Navigating canvas with Jaws

Peter Donahue
 

Hello everyone,

 

                It’s a drawing program. It’s also a part of HTML5.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of marilyn
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 10:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating canvas with Jaws

 

I have to say that I also find Canvas not to be user friendly at all. I have to use it for many things, and unless I have sighted help, there is no way to accomplish what needs to be done. Contacting Canvas for help or providing feedback on accessibility goes nowhere either.

 

Wish I didn’t have to use it.

 

Marilyn  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 7:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating canvas with Jaws

 

I am afraid I completely disagree that canvas is totally accessible.

Parts are accessible and others are certainly not with a screenreader.

I have not time to go into details now but I was only recently discussing the problems not just for students but with a blind lectururer  who was also experiencing similar problems to me on his interface.

 

The disappointing thing is the way that Canvas  have been completely unresponsive to the specific feedback  I have offered on particular  problems.

Basically accessing and downloading course material is pretty OK but the accessibility of quizzes and feedback forms is sporadic at best, depending on how they are laid out. On some pages it is impossible to access any edit boxes to type anything in. Other quizzes have check boxes to respond to but NVDA and Jaws are unable to read the questions  associated. 

The calendar seems an accessibility mess and I have never managed to make any sense of it.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: James Malone
Sent: 14 March 2021 18:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating canvas with Jaws

 

Hello all, this question is for anyone but particularly  Debra Armstrong. I have a student that is attending courses at a community college. I was listening to the open line  cast that was made back in February. Debra, you say that Canvas is totally accessible with Jaws. Can you please email me off list on ways to help my client navigate the pages?

I was told that certain web browsers didn’t work with Canvas, and particularly Google Chrome. Here’s the link. https://utah.instructure.com/courses/325662/pages/navigating-canvas-with-a-screen-reader.

Yet, when I went to this link and used Internet explorer, I found that Canvas would not open in Internet Explorer.

When trying to navigate within Chrome, we found that for example when trying to read a message the message preview would come up, but the message body would not read the completed message. My client is using Jaws 21, the latest build. If there is any keystrokes to help read within Canvas, I would like to know what they are so I can give her some assistants before her classes starts on Tuesday.

Feel free to email me at malone_j@....

Best: James

 


moderated Re: Setting Winamp to work with JAWS

Mario
 

try setting Winamp as the default program to handle audio files:

press windows+i.
tab once, down arrow to and spacebar on Apps.
tab once, down arrow to and spacebar on Default apps.
tab to and spacebar on Music player.
tab to and spacebar on Winamp.
alt+f4. done.

to reset it, choose a different program instead of Winamp, and then choose Winamp. sometimes it needs to be rerecognized which program is to handle audio files, although I hadn't had this problem since upgrading to Windows 10.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Gezim Rexha [mailto:gezim_rexha@hotmail.com]
To: jfw@groups.io <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 8:59 AM
Subject: Setting Winamp to work with JAWS
Hi list,

I tried to open an audio file with Winamp, but it would not play;
instead, it only opened an intro recording from Winamp. I would
appreciate steps to set Winamp to properly work with JAWS.

Best regards,

Gezim


moderated Re: windows sign-in

 

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:51 AM, Stan Holdeman wrote:
I already have a Microsoft account with password.
-
If that's what you're using to log in on this particular computer, then you can skip straight to step #4.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: windows sign-in

Stan Holdeman
 

Thank you, Joseph, but now I am feeling a bit dumb for having to ask this follow-up.

I already have a Microsoft account with password. How does that change or complicate the instructions you sent me.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 9:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows sign-in

 

Hi,

I’ll forward this to a more relevant forum, but suffice to say that you must set up a password before enabling Windows Hello PIN method. You would do:

  1. Go to Settings (Windows+I)/Accounts/Sign-in options.
  2. Create a password for your account (don’t worry about creating a Microsoft Account unless you wish to use additional services). From Sign-in options, go to a list of sign-in options which includes Windows Hello Face, Password, among others. Select “Password” and create one if you haven’t done so.
  3. Test the password (log out and log in).
  4. Return to settings/Accounts/Sign-in options, then select Windows Hello PIN. You will be asked to enter your current password, along with setting up a PIN.

 

Note that Windows Hello Face and Fingerprint options will require appropriate hardware.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:47 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: windows sign-in

 

Dear Listers: I recently had to have a new hard drive and thus a new install of Windows 10.

 

Formerly after boot up I would get the Windows welcome with sign in in which I typed a 4 digit password which would sign me in. This was set up by the person who sold me the computer.

 

Now I go straight to Windows desktop with no need for sign in. I would like to have the added security of a sign in password. How do I do this? I have gone to settings, accounts, sign in options, but the page reads poorly and I can’t seem to proceed.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: Setting Winamp to work with JAWS

Milton Ota
 

Hello,

 

Did you press your application key to bring up a menu?

 

If you did that, then, did you arrow down to play file?

 

When you got to the edit field did you shift tab to see the files in the directory/folder that open file is showing?

 

If you did my last step, and you are not in the directory/folder where your audio file is, you will have to navigate to the folder where your file is located.

 

If you are not sure of this, and would like someone to tandem into your computer and show you how to do this, let me know by sending me a message to: mota1252@...

 

 

Milton Ota

ICAN Island Computer Access Now

4273 Coventry Dr., S.

Unit E

Fargo, ND 58104-4498

 

Ph: (701) 731-0511

Email: mota1252@...

 

               

 


moderated Setting Winamp to work with JAWS

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi list,

 

I tried to open an audio file with Winamp, but it would not play; instead, it only opened an intro recording from Winamp. I would appreciate steps to set Winamp to properly work with JAWS.

 

Best regards,

Gezim

 


moderated Re: SPSS Statistics 27

Mark
 

The following list contains resources that helped a JAWS user get up and running with SPSS. Challenges with exporting output persists and experimentation continues.


moderated Re: Trouble with selecting deleting text with JAWS 2021

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi Mario,
I tried both the things: reinstalling JAWS as also maximising Notepad
to fit the whole screen.
The issue strangely persists.
Best
Turab

On 3/16/21, turab chimthanawala via groups.io
<turabhvc=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thankyou!

On 3/15/21, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
a bit late, but try unloading and reloading JAWS. if that doesn't fix
the problem, try maximizing Notepad's window. press alt+spacebar and x.

-------- Original Message --------
From: turab chimthanawala [mailto:turabhvc@gmail.com]
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 12, 2021, 10:07 PM
Subject: Trouble with selecting deleting text with JAWS 2021
Dear all,
I use JAWS 2021 on a Windows 10 machine.
In notepad, JAWS does not speak when I either read/ select word by
word or I back space to delete some text.
Only option is to restart JAWS. However, this problem occurs
repeatedly, making restarting an irritating option.
I have updated to the latest update of JAWS 2021.
Please guide.
Thanks
Best
Turab





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moderated Re: Navigating canvas with Jaws

Vaughn Brown
 

For quizzes and assignment comments you want to use the headings for getting to the questions, E to jump edit for typing in the answers, and F or X for the boxes.

 

I usually rely on headings and arrows keys for reading the quizzes. Sorry you are having so much trouble.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating canvas with Jaws

 

I am afraid I completely disagree that canvas is totally accessible.

Parts are accessible and others are certainly not with a screenreader.

I have not time to go into details now but I was only recently discussing the problems not just for students but with a blind lectururer  who was also experiencing similar problems to me on his interface.

 

The disappointing thing is the way that Canvas  have been completely unresponsive to the specific feedback  I have offered on particular  problems.

Basically accessing and downloading course material is pretty OK but the accessibility of quizzes and feedback forms is sporadic at best, depending on how they are laid out. On some pages it is impossible to access any edit boxes to type anything in. Other quizzes have check boxes to respond to but NVDA and Jaws are unable to read the questions  associated. 

The calendar seems an accessibility mess and I have never managed to make any sense of it.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: James Malone
Sent: 14 March 2021 18:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating canvas with Jaws

 

Hello all, this question is for anyone but particularly  Debra Armstrong. I have a student that is attending courses at a community college. I was listening to the open line  cast that was made back in February. Debra, you say that Canvas is totally accessible with Jaws. Can you please email me off list on ways to help my client navigate the pages?

I was told that certain web browsers didn’t work with Canvas, and particularly Google Chrome. Here’s the link. https://utah.instructure.com/courses/325662/pages/navigating-canvas-with-a-screen-reader.

Yet, when I went to this link and used Internet explorer, I found that Canvas would not open in Internet Explorer.

When trying to navigate within Chrome, we found that for example when trying to read a message the message preview would come up, but the message body would not read the completed message. My client is using Jaws 21, the latest build. If there is any keystrokes to help read within Canvas, I would like to know what they are so I can give her some assistants before her classes starts on Tuesday.

Feel free to email me at malone_j@....

Best: James

 

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