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moderated Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

CJ &AA MAY
 

Many thanks. Although your guidance quoted Eloquence, it works with Daniel, which is my chosen profile.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY via groups.io
Sent: 11 June 2020 12:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Is there a way of increasingly the degree of pitch change when Jaws is indicating a capital letter, as sometimes it isn’t very clear, and although your suggestion, Mike, would overcome this, I’d rather be notified by pitch change than the programme forever saying “cap”.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 11 June 2020 05:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hi Richard,

 

Try the following to see if this setting change will help you with what you're trying to do:

 

1. While in Word press, Insert + 6, on the number row to open, Word Settings Center.

 

2. Down arrow to, Say all closed, and right arrow to open.

 

3. Down arrow to, Indicate Caps during Say All not checked, and press the spacebar to check this option.
note:  this option explained;  Select this check box to have JAWS announce capitalization when reading with Say All. JAWS announces "cap" for single capital letters, and "all cap" for capitalized words. This check box is cleared by default.

 

4. Tab to, Apply , press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay , and press enter to save / close.


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:56 PM

Subject: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hello,

 

I’m using MS Word, and I am trying to figure out if the Jaws sound schemes can be customized so that an entire word with the initial letter capitalized can be identified by pitch change or other sound? I know that the sound schemes can help you identify the first letter when a word is capitalized but when I’m proofreading documents as an attorney using “say all” I need to be able to identify if words in a sentence are capitalized more efficiently.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Podcast, New Feature

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Hi,

 

Not sure if anyone has listened to the latest podcast but there was an option mentioned for some laptops that cut off the first part of speech with bluetooth headphones, did anyone listen to this?

 

 

 

 

Steven Hicks.

Servicedesk 2 Team Leader.

Tel:  01209 318620.

Mobile:  07393 792548.

EMail:  Steven.Hicks@....

 



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moderated Re: Acronis image with Jaws

Klaus Vielhauer
 

Hello Chris,


I will try it. There are  2 options:

one is graphical and the other has keyboard access. Any advice would be wellcome.

Klaus




On 6/10/2020 10:44 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

Hello.  I was talking about the program "Image for Windows" by terabyte unlimited, not the program built into windows itself.  In fact, both will allow you to restore a hard disk from an image, but the first has a lot more flexibility.  With the Terabyte Unlimited product you can do incremental and differential backups, as well as easily restore just one file if that is what you need to do, you can even view the contents of your saved image files.


The image program built into windows will allow you to restore a hard disk if and only if the drive is the same size, which makes it rather useless.  Besides that, it is likely going away in a future windows release.



On 6/10/2020 09:03, Klaus Vielhauer wrote:
Hello Chris,


the Image program that is included  in Windows does not work in case of a harddisk failure.

I am looking for a solution that also covers such a problem.

Klaus


On 6/10/2020 12:50 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
I gave Up on them five years ago for an accessibility try image for windows instead
On Jun 9, 2020, at 17:38, Klaus Vielhauer <vielhau@...> wrote:

Hello,

at the install screen there is no speech and I had to stop.

Does anyone use this program successfully?

Thanks

Klaus















moderated Re: Desktop short cut hot keys

Mike B
 


Pinning the shortcut icons to the task bar never fails for me, but the drawback is that you're limited to how many you can pin to the taskbar.  These shortcuts can be accessed from anywhere on the computer.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:05 AM
Subject: Re: Desktop short cut hot keys

Once you’ve created a desktop shortcut to a specific version of JAWS, try renaming it. for example, I’ve renamed JAWS 2020 as “JAWS 2020 shortcut.” This method was recommended by an FS tech support guy, and it has worked for me for several versions. Don’t ask me why.

To rename a file, place focus on the filename, then press F2 to bring up an edit field. Make the changes, then press enter.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 1:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Desktop short cut hot keys

 

Apparently, some systems, mine included, and I'm running Windows 10 Home 64 bit; Jaws 2020 blocks the desktop hotkeys.

I worked with Eric Damery last fall after Jaws 2020 came out.

They thought the November or maybe the December update had fixed it, but they stopped working.

They work with other screen readers.

 

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Jun 10, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:

I am using JAWS 2020 with Windows 7 and have several hot keys set up to quickly open applications like JAWS, but they have stopped working.  I noticed this when I had shut down JAWS and tried to restart it with Alt + CTRL + J and nothing happened.  I later discovered that none of my hot key short cuts were working.  What would cause them to stop working?


moderated Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

Mike B
 

Morning Alison,
 
Try the following.  The steps below are for the Eloquence voice profile
1. Ppress, Jaws key + J, to open the Jaws context menu.
2. Press enter on, Options, arrow down to Voices submenu, press enter, and press enter on Voice Adjustment...
3. A. Now tab, 4 times to Voice Adjust All Contexts 1 of 5, and the setting you want is in here.
B. Tab 4 more times to, Voice upper case pitch change, and it's probably set on, 20.
C. Press your backspace key a couple of times to remove, 20, and type the number you want.  Note;  If you want a higher pitch type in a higher number than
20, and if you want a lower pitch type in a lower number.  You'll probably want to experiment with this.  I have mine set at, 27.
4. Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

Is there a way of increasingly the degree of pitch change when Jaws is indicating a capital letter, as sometimes it isn’t very clear, and although your suggestion, Mike, would overcome this, I’d rather be notified by pitch change than the programme forever saying “cap”.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 11 June 2020 05:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hi Richard,

 

Try the following to see if this setting change will help you with what you're trying to do:

 

1. While in Word press, Insert + 6, on the number row to open, Word Settings Center.

 

2. Down arrow to, Say all closed, and right arrow to open.

 

3. Down arrow to, Indicate Caps during Say All not checked, and press the spacebar to check this option.
note:  this option explained;  Select this check box to have JAWS announce capitalization when reading with Say All. JAWS announces "cap" for single capital letters, and "all cap" for capitalized words. This check box is cleared by default.

 

4. Tab to, Apply , press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay , and press enter to save / close.


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Chen

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:56 PM

Subject: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hello,

 

I’m using MS Word, and I am trying to figure out if the Jaws sound schemes can be customized so that an entire word with the initial letter capitalized can be identified by pitch change or other sound? I know that the sound schemes can help you identify the first letter when a word is capitalized but when I’m proofreading documents as an attorney using “say all” I need to be able to identify if words in a sentence are capitalized more efficiently.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

CJ &AA MAY
 

Is there a way of increasingly the degree of pitch change when Jaws is indicating a capital letter, as sometimes it isn’t very clear, and although your suggestion, Mike, would overcome this, I’d rather be notified by pitch change than the programme forever saying “cap”.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 11 June 2020 05:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hi Richard,

 

Try the following to see if this setting change will help you with what you're trying to do:

 

1. While in Word press, Insert + 6, on the number row to open, Word Settings Center.

 

2. Down arrow to, Say all closed, and right arrow to open.

 

3. Down arrow to, Indicate Caps during Say All not checked, and press the spacebar to check this option.
note:  this option explained;  Select this check box to have JAWS announce capitalization when reading with Say All. JAWS announces "cap" for single capital letters, and "all cap" for capitalized words. This check box is cleared by default.

 

4. Tab to, Apply , press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay , and press enter to save / close.


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:56 PM

Subject: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hello,

 

I’m using MS Word, and I am trying to figure out if the Jaws sound schemes can be customized so that an entire word with the initial letter capitalized can be identified by pitch change or other sound? I know that the sound schemes can help you identify the first letter when a word is capitalized but when I’m proofreading documents as an attorney using “say all” I need to be able to identify if words in a sentence are capitalized more efficiently.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Re: Desktop short cut hot keys

Adrian Spratt
 

Once you’ve created a desktop shortcut to a specific version of JAWS, try renaming it. for example, I’ve renamed JAWS 2020 as “JAWS 2020 shortcut.” This method was recommended by an FS tech support guy, and it has worked for me for several versions. Don’t ask me why.

To rename a file, place focus on the filename, then press F2 to bring up an edit field. Make the changes, then press enter.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 1:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Desktop short cut hot keys

 

Apparently, some systems, mine included, and I'm running Windows 10 Home 64 bit; Jaws 2020 blocks the desktop hotkeys.

I worked with Eric Damery last fall after Jaws 2020 came out.

They thought the November or maybe the December update had fixed it, but they stopped working.

They work with other screen readers.

 

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Jun 10, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:

I am using JAWS 2020 with Windows 7 and have several hot keys set up to quickly open applications like JAWS, but they have stopped working.  I noticed this when I had shut down JAWS and tried to restart it with Alt + CTRL + J and nothing happened.  I later discovered that none of my hot key short cuts were working.  What would cause them to stop working?


moderated Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

Richard Chen <richlchen@...>
 

Awesome. This works. Thanks Mike.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hi Richard,

 

Try the following to see if this setting change will help you with what you're trying to do:

 

1. While in Word press, Insert + 6, on the number row to open, Word Settings Center.

 

2. Down arrow to, Say all closed, and right arrow to open.

 

3. Down arrow to, Indicate Caps during Say All not checked, and press the spacebar to check this option.
note:  this option explained;  Select this check box to have JAWS announce capitalization when reading with Say All. JAWS announces "cap" for single capital letters, and "all cap" for capitalized words. This check box is cleared by default.

 

4. Tab to, Apply , press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay , and press enter to save / close.


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Chen

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:56 PM

Subject: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

 

Hello,

 

I’m using MS Word, and I am trying to figure out if the Jaws sound schemes can be customized so that an entire word with the initial letter capitalized can be identified by pitch change or other sound? I know that the sound schemes can help you identify the first letter when a word is capitalized but when I’m proofreading documents as an attorney using “say all” I need to be able to identify if words in a sentence are capitalized more efficiently.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Re: Desktop short cut hot keys

Richard Turner
 

Apparently, some systems, mine included, and I'm running Windows 10 Home 64 bit; Jaws 2020 blocks the desktop hotkeys.
I worked with Eric Damery last fall after Jaws 2020 came out.
They thought the November or maybe the December update had fixed it, but they stopped working.
They work with other screen readers.

Later,




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 10, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:

I am using JAWS 2020 with Windows 7 and have several hot keys set up to quickly open applications like JAWS, but they have stopped working.  I noticed this when I had shut down JAWS and tried to restart it with Alt + CTRL + J and nothing happened.  I later discovered that none of my hot key short cuts were working.  What would cause them to stop working?


moderated Desktop short cut hot keys

Marty Hutchings
 

I am using JAWS 2020 with Windows 7 and have several hot keys set up to quickly open applications like JAWS, but they have stopped working.  I noticed this when I had shut down JAWS and tried to restart it with Alt + CTRL + J and nothing happened.  I later discovered that none of my hot key short cuts were working.  What would cause them to stop working?


moderated Re: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

Mike B
 

Hi Richard,
 
Try the following to see if this setting change will help you with what you're trying to do:
 
1. While in Word press, Insert + 6, on the number row to open, Word Settings Center.
 
2. Down arrow to, Say all closed, and right arrow to open.
 
3. Down arrow to, Indicate Caps during Say All not checked, and press the spacebar to check this option.
note:  this option explained;  Select this check box to have JAWS announce capitalization when reading with Say All. JAWS announces "cap" for single capital letters, and "all cap" for capitalized words. This check box is cleared by default.
 
4. Tab to, Apply , press the spacebar, now tab to, Okay , and press enter to save / close.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:56 PM
Subject: Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

Hello,

I’m using MS Word, and I am trying to figure out if the Jaws sound schemes can be customized so that an entire word with the initial letter capitalized can be identified by pitch change or other sound? I know that the sound schemes can help you identify the first letter when a word is capitalized but when I’m proofreading documents as an attorney using “say all” I need to be able to identify if words in a sentence are capitalized more efficiently.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Identifying Capitalized Words in MS Word

Richard Chen <richlchen@...>
 

Hello,

I’m using MS Word, and I am trying to figure out if the Jaws sound schemes can be customized so that an entire word with the initial letter capitalized can be identified by pitch change or other sound? I know that the sound schemes can help you identify the first letter when a word is capitalized but when I’m proofreading documents as an attorney using “say all” I need to be able to identify if words in a sentence are capitalized more efficiently.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

David Griffith
 

I never really anticipated Malwarebytes as a  replacement  for anti-virus software either.

To be honest it has been years and years since I have had  any such problems which has probably made me complacent. 

I installed Malwarebytes without any real expectation of having to use it,  rather because I bought it years ago and thought it was silly not to use it as a form of insurance.

On my Desktop it has never been used.

Really I was relying on Windows Defender for anti virus which was why I was surprised that Malwarebytes flagged up a Trojan that Windows Defender was oblivious of. For reason stated earlier I am convinced this was not a false positive.

I am happy to be corrected  but my understanding is that trojans are viruses rather than simple browser based Malware code.

As I say I used to use ESET Smart Secuirty for years also but could not see the point in continuing to use a product that I could increasingly not accessibly interact with. lp to deal with it which defeats the point really.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 09 June 2020 23:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

 

MalwareBytes claims that the latest 4.X releases can be used as an antivirus program (not the free, on-demand only version.) However, because they don't use standard definition or signature files I feel a bit jittery depending on it as my main security tool. Their reasons for why this is a nonissue are somewhat compelling and I realize that standard definition files are not the only way to protect a computer. Still I am not comfortable using it as my sole or even my primary security tool.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/9/2020 12:55 PM, Blind Tech tutorials And Tips wrote:

Hi,

You can use malware bites, it is about 90% accessible, and mostly useable, and it is a very strong anti-virus software, most prefer it ove others. Yes windows defender is the most accessible, but if you want a better antivirus, that is accessible 90% of the time and is much more secure than windows defender, I would go for malware bites.

 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:20 PM david Jennette <dcjenn@...> wrote:

I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again. Sorry if you all get the message a second time.

I’m wondering if windows defender is still the best antivirus software to use with jaws or if there are now other packages that are accessible now. I figured I’d ask because some time has passed and things might have changed. Thanks.

 


moderated Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Milton,

 

The PC I’m speaking of is an refurbished HP business PC I bought from New Egg for cheap. I use it as a media center, of sorts, as it is attached to my home stereo receiver to stream music, etc. So I’m just trying to squeeze some more life out of it.

 

My main PC is faithfully updated and protected as it is used for work and personal data.

 

But it never hurts to mention what you did as it is excellent advice for someone who may have their one and only PC running 8.1.

 

Thanks, as always,

Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hello Norma,

 

I’m not sure if you are aware but, these days if you are doing Zoom conferencing or any other form of online conferencing, you should make sure that Windows is up-to-date and the conferencing app/program you are using is up-to-date as well for security purposes.

 

I would highly recommend that you look into a new computer system if your Windows 8.1 cannot be updated.

 

Milton

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi Milton,

 

I’m running Win 8.1 from a fresh install to an HP desktop which had Win 7 and was not eligible for an update to Win 10.I didn’t think about updating the Win 8.1. to 10, I will look into that possibility.

 

I will double check to see if Office 365 is up to date. I’m pretty sure it is, but thanks for the reminder, I will double check it.

 

Thanks for your note,

Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hello,

 

I am not sure if this has been addressed but from seeing your response, Norma, Have you check to see if you are eligible for upgrading your Win 8.1 to Windows 10?

 

Have you check to see if you have installed the updates for Office 365?

 

I would try these steps and get updated to properly see that JAWS 2020 is then still giving you the problems you are describing.

 

Milton

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi,

 

All I have to go on is problems that occur when using J2020 do not occur when using 2019. They include:

 

Even more sluggishness in outlook 365, esp. when replying to a message

 

In Word 365, Jaws says “normal” when I arrow up and down through lines whether they have text or not. I spent an hour with a FS tech trying to resolve this issue and we finally ended up restoring J2020 factory settings. Major PITA. J2020 was OK for a few months, and now it’s happening again. So I need to use J2019 when working in Word.

 

There are other issues which I can’t recall now. And I know I’m not the only one who’s expressing frustration with J2020 problems.

 

Regards,

Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Well…what problems are you having?

Is there any particular reason you feel your performance issues are related to jaws?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi and thanks. I’ll give 2020 a try with my Win 8.1 PC, but I’m not too optimistic. I can’t even get optimal performance using J2020 with Windows 10. But, maybe I’ll get lucky…

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 11:50 AM
To: list Jaws <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi group,

 

I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: jaws 2020 & setting speech profiles per application

Shan Noyes
 

Thanks and sorry about that. not replying and saying  that I got it figured out.

To the original message.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2020 & setting speech profiles per application

 

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Open the app you want to have a different profile.
press ctrl-jaws-S This will bring up a profile selector.
tab once and you should be on a control labeled use default profile for application.
By using arrow keys at this point, I was able to change profiles.
I did not try saving this, but I have done this in JAWS 18, and the dialog seemed very similar.

HTH!
Jonathan Cohn 
 

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moderated Re: jaws 2020 & setting speech profiles per application

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Open the app you want to have a different profile.
press ctrl-jaws-S This will bring up a profile selector.
tab once and you should be on a control labeled use default profile for application.
By using arrow keys at this point, I was able to change profiles.
I did not try saving this, but I have done this in JAWS 18, and the dialog seemed very similar.

HTH!
Jonathan Cohn 
 


moderated Re: Acronis image with Jaws

Chris Hill
 

Hello.  I was talking about the program "Image for Windows" by terabyte unlimited, not the program built into windows itself.  In fact, both will allow you to restore a hard disk from an image, but the first has a lot more flexibility.  With the Terabyte Unlimited product you can do incremental and differential backups, as well as easily restore just one file if that is what you need to do, you can even view the contents of your saved image files.


The image program built into windows will allow you to restore a hard disk if and only if the drive is the same size, which makes it rather useless.  Besides that, it is likely going away in a future windows release.

On 6/10/2020 09:03, Klaus Vielhauer wrote:
Hello Chris,


the Image program that is included  in Windows does not work in case of a harddisk failure.

I am looking for a solution that also covers such a problem.

Klaus


On 6/10/2020 12:50 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
I gave Up on them five years ago for an accessibility try image for windows instead
On Jun 9, 2020, at 17:38, Klaus Vielhauer <vielhau@...> wrote:

Hello,

at the install screen there is no speech and I had to stop.

Does anyone use this program successfully?

Thanks

Klaus






moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, I agree that useage and qualifications are needed for, not just anti virus comparisons, but for most software.  Anti virus requirements vary depending on how and what purposes and security level one needs with their device.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 02:26 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

Windows Defender is a strong anti virus program and while paid ones may have stronger points

Dan, what follows is not a criticism of what you've said, which is 100% accurate, but an addition.  Any other product, paid or free (at least potentially), may do better than Windows Security does with a given thing.  That's shown time and again in formal tests where each and every major security suite product changes position, often from the last test to the current one, because one of the things tested that's given more weight than others improves in one product while staying the same in others.

This is one reason why any statement that product X is better than product Y, without any qualifications, and regardless of the product, is nothing more than an opinion.  You need to be able to identify what it is that's better, and why, between X and Y across all significant dimensions, how you weight those, and that product X is better across a majority of them before you can declare it better with any objectivity.

I can, and have, given my subjective opinions about what I like best, but that does not make it "best for all users and situations."  I generally try to describe what my criteria were.

So, I'll repeat myself, as I've posted this before.  But the closest thing you (any you) are going to find that are at least somewhat objective measures of the effectiveness of a given security suite across multiple dimensions/functions is to look at the reports from testing labs, and not just the latest one, but going back at least a year, preferably two, to see how the various products have changed places over time, and how the different testers weight things differently such that one declares suite X superior to suite Y while another says just the opposite, but both place them in the top tier of products.  There are no simple declarations with regard to security software.

See the most recent plus the last several years of historical test results from:

AV Test

AV Comparatives

SE Labs  (Reports Page)

MRG Effitas  (360 Protection Testing Category)

This article from Quietman7, a security expert at BleepingComputer.com, makes for interesting reading, too, and directly pertains to the sorts of testing referenced above:  
Reflections on Antivirus/Antimalware Testing & Comparisons

 

 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

David Griffith
 

 

Has the accessibility improved?

I used to use it but abandoned it when they produced updates which made it inaccessible with a screenreader and worst seemed not to take this as a serious concern. If they have at last addressed screenreader accessibility I would probably recommence my subscription.

David Griffith.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don Mauck
Sent: 09 June 2020 20:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

 

For me, I’m very happy with the ESET suite of products. I’ve never been a victim of Malware or any other virus. While free is nice and Windows Defender works well enough, I’m very glad o take the extra protection I  very happy with ESET.

 

From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 02:26 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

Windows Defender is a strong anti virus program and while paid ones may have stronger points

Dan, what follows is not a criticism of what you've said, which is 100% accurate, but an addition.  Any other product, paid or free (at least potentially), may do better than Windows Security does with a given thing.  That's shown time and again in formal tests where each and every major security suite product changes position, often from the last test to the current one, because one of the things tested that's given more weight than others improves in one product while staying the same in others.

This is one reason why any statement that product X is better than product Y, without any qualifications, and regardless of the product, is nothing more than an opinion.  You need to be able to identify what it is that's better, and why, between X and Y across all significant dimensions, how you weight those, and that product X is better across a majority of them before you can declare it better with any objectivity.

I can, and have, given my subjective opinions about what I like best, but that does not make it "best for all users and situations."  I generally try to describe what my criteria were.

So, I'll repeat myself, as I've posted this before.  But the closest thing you (any you) are going to find that are at least somewhat objective measures of the effectiveness of a given security suite across multiple dimensions/functions is to look at the reports from testing labs, and not just the latest one, but going back at least a year, preferably two, to see how the various products have changed places over time, and how the different testers weight things differently such that one declares suite X superior to suite Y while another says just the opposite, but both place them in the top tier of products.  There are no simple declarations with regard to security software.

See the most recent plus the last several years of historical test results from:

AV Test

AV Comparatives

SE Labs  (Reports Page)

MRG Effitas  (360 Protection Testing Category)

This article from Quietman7, a security expert at BleepingComputer.com, makes for interesting reading, too, and directly pertains to the sorts of testing referenced above:  
Reflections on Antivirus/Antimalware Testing & Comparisons

 

 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

 


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Mario
 

Don, I don't remember if you use JAWS/NVDA or have enough sight to manipulate things displayed on the screen with a mouse, but I find it very difficult to use Eset with NVDA or JAWS. the wording throughout it's UI sounds very garbled and upon further inspection, actually are two to five or more words following each other with no spaces between the words. it's very frustrating to make sense of what is being pronounced. for one of my computers, I'm thinking of not renewing when the subscription runs out. unless some smart user has written some scripts for JAWS or an addon for NVDA to more effectively use Eset.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Don Mauck [mailto:don.mauck@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 3:42 PM
Subject: Antivirus software.
For me, I’m very happy with the ESET suite of products. I’ve never been
a victim of Malware or any other virus. While free is nice and Windows
Defender works well enough, I’m very glad o take the extra protection I
very happy with ESET.

*From:* Brian Vogel <@britechguy>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 1:27 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Antivirus software.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 02:26 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

Windows Defender is a strong anti virus program and while paid ones
may have stronger points

Dan, what follows is not a criticism of what you've said, which is 100%
accurate, but an addition.  Any other product, paid or free (at least
potentially), may do better than Windows Security does with a given
thing.  That's shown time and again in formal tests where each and every
major security suite product changes position, often from the last test
to the current one, because one of the things tested that's given more
weight than others improves in one product while staying the same in others.

This is one reason why any statement that product X is better than
product Y, without any qualifications, and regardless of the product, is
nothing more than an opinion.  You need to be able to identify what it
is that's better, and why, between X and Y across all significant
dimensions, how you weight those, and that product X is better across a
majority of them before you can declare it better with any objectivity.

I can, and have, given my subjective opinions about what I like best,
but that does not make it "best for all users and situations."  I
generally try to describe what my criteria were.

So, I'll repeat myself, as I've posted this before.  But the closest
thing you (any you) are going to find that are at least somewhat
objective measures of the effectiveness of a given security suite across
multiple dimensions/functions is to look at the reports from testing
labs, and not just the latest one, but going back at least a year,
preferably two, to see how the various products have changed places over
time, and how the different testers weight things differently such that
one declares suite X superior to suite Y while another says just the
opposite, but both place them in the top tier of products.  There are no
simple declarations with regard to security software.

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/This article from Quietman7, a security expert at BleepingComputer.com,
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of testing referenced above: //*/*Reflections on Antivirus/Antimalware
Testing & Comparisons*/
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Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

/The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./
       ~ Lawrence Krauss