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moderated Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Delaunay Christophe
 

Hi Sameer,

 

I’m hardly using Teams for three weeks now on a laptop running Windows 10 with jaws 2020 latest update because this is my employer’s recommended tool for remote working.

 

This app is globally accessible except for defining a “contact group” in the “Chat” tab, “Contacts” subtab.

 

In order to learn how to use it, I started from this web page:

 

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows

 

I did not install any Jaws script yet but if there are some, I’d also like to know.

 

Hope this helps. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:36 PM
To: JFW Group <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

 

Dear List Friends,

 

Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.

 

Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

Leo
 

Hi, I use jaws 2020 latest compilation and thunderbird, but the only accessibility issue I find is the option menu.


Best,
   Leo
On 4/10/2020 8:34 AM, Mario wrote:

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?
I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM
Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019
I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose
focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus
from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a
press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of
my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is
lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview
reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an
email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail
without even opening it.

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some
reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just
pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am
aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it
with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before
sending this message back to you.

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative
than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in
the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of
accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook
Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not
personally use this.

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I
really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first
rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich
may have even more access challenges.

David Griffith

.

this

load.

You have to get used to using the shift

.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos
*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a
email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,
but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing
something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make
these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus







moderated Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

Leo
 

well, I know that English language represent a challenge when it comes to how synthesizers pronounce homophones, but I believe I was misunderstood.

All I want is someone willing to share their default.jfd file, of course, assuming that as an native English speaker has already added the correct pronunciation in many cases.

For example, if you guys try to read the following word using eloquence, and then try to read it using vocalizer, you'll notice the difference.

the word is

voila



Best,
   Leo
On 4/9/2020 9:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Marie,

 

Interestingly, my Dectalk Express synthesizer read “read” correctly both times in your example, that is, present tense first, then past tense. Whoever is behind this engine, or possibly the JAWS pronunciation itself, figured out a way to tell a synthesizer when to read certain words a certain way. Not all words work as well. “Polish” comes to mind. Whether it’s the surface smoother or a person from Poland, the pronunciation is the same.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

 

Part of the problem could be the weird issue in the English language of spelling words the same but having a different pronunciation depending on where the word is used. Unfortunately a screen reader can only have one way of pronouncing these word so they pick the most common usage.

Example is you might read a text today or you may have read it yesterday.

 

Marie

 

From: Leo

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:05 AM

Subject: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

 

Hi everyone,

I like to use eloquence synthesizer because it’s very responsive, and I’m used to it. However, if you use this voice on a regular basis, you’ll have probably noticed that eloquence awkwardly mispronounce lots of words, some of them very common words. So, I wonder if someone has a default dictionary for jaws that is willing to share. Besides, given that I’m not a native English speaker, all too often I can’t figure out how a word is accurately pronounced.

If someone could share with me their default.jdf file, I’d really appreciate it.

 

Tanks in advance

 

 

 

 

 

--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Sameer
 

 
Dear List Friends,
 
Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.
 
Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.
 
Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.
 
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

Mario
 

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?
I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM
Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019
I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose
focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus
from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a
press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of
my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is
lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview
reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an
email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail
without even opening it.

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some
reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just
pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am
aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it
with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before
sending this message back to you.

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative
than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in
the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of
accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook
Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not
personally use this.

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I
really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first
rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich
may have even more access challenges.

David Griffith

.

this

load.

You have to get used to using the shift

.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos
*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a
email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,
but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing
something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make
these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus


moderated Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

Barbara Sheinbein
 

I had this exact issue.  You need to turn off formatting in Outlook.  You may need to do this for each Outlook folder since sometimes apply this view to all folders does not work.  Since I had trouble figuring where to turn this off, I did have the rep at the Microsoft Disability Help Desk do this for me.  All has worked since.  Sorry I cannot provide detailed steps to turn this off for you.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

Greetings all can someone suggest how I might fix this problem. Instead of reading the number of messages jaws says   connectivity to your server I think it has to do with how outlook is set up in terms of the folder view but not sure.


moderated Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

Chris Hill
 

Why not just disable uac?  It doesn't really do what it promises, and many people will just say yes to whatever they are asked anyway.



On 4/10/2020 08:06, Daniel Wolak wrote:

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

 

Daniel

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

Patrick Johnson
 

Good morning group,

I am using Chrome on a Windows 10 machine with JAWS 2020 and I am
having trouble with the following tasks which I had no problem
completing using Firefox (which has gone completely flaky on my
laptop).
Opening a file on a web page. In Firefox I could click a file link
and I would be given the option to open or save the file. Chrome does
not give me this option. According to web searches using CTRL+Enter
and/or SHIFT+Enter should do the trick. Neither option works for me.

Closing a window and/or going back to the previous window. In Firefox
I could use the File, Close Window to complete this task. As an
example after performing a Google search I click on a result and after
reading it I want to go back to the results page. Web searches have
not turned up any viable solutions.

Thanks for everyone's help,

Patrick


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

David Griffith
 

 

I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

 

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail without even opening it.

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just  pressing the windows key and pressing M  to launch it again.

 

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before sending this message back to you.

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not personally use this.

 

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first rather than going  from the frying pan to the fire of other options  which may have even more access challenges.

 

David Griffith

 

 

.

this

 

 

 

 

load.

You have to get used to using the shift

 

 

.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: 10 April 2020 12:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail, but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus


moderated Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

Daniel Wolak
 

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

 

Daniel

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

Jeff Christiansen
 

Hi James

 

You are correct, it does have to do with the view settings.

First go to the view menu

Navigate to and activate, change view settings

Tab to IMAP messages and press enter

 

HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

I did both actually phoned Microsoft their disability answer desk  a gentlemen was on the phone with me for over an hour couldn’t figure it out, I  believe

 It has something to do with how the view is set in outlook.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

I remember having this problem, but I don’t recall how I overcame it. Tom has posted the method that ought to work, JAWS key+3 on the numpad. Since that doesn’t work for you, you might do a JAWS repair and a Microsoft Office repair.  If you’re unfamiliar with either repair method, please re-post.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

Greetings all can someone suggest how I might fix this problem. Instead of reading the number of messages jaws says   connectivity to your server I think it has to do with how outlook is set up in terms of the folder view but not sure.


moderated Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

james hooper
 

I did both actually phoned Microsoft their disability answer desk  a gentlemen was on the phone with me for over an hour couldn’t figure it out, I  believe

 It has something to do with how the view is set in outlook.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

I remember having this problem, but I don’t recall how I overcame it. Tom has posted the method that ought to work, JAWS key+3 on the numpad. Since that doesn’t work for you, you might do a JAWS repair and a Microsoft Office repair.  If you’re unfamiliar with either repair method, please re-post.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

Greetings all can someone suggest how I might fix this problem. Instead of reading the number of messages jaws says   connectivity to your server I think it has to do with how outlook is set up in terms of the folder view but not sure.


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

Gerald Levy
 


Mozilla Thunderbird is completely accessible with JAWS 2019.


Gerald



On 4/10/2020 7:07 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail, but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus


moderated Email client for Jaws 2019

Nickus de Vos
 

Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail, but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus


moderated Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

Adrian Spratt
 

I remember having this problem, but I don’t recall how I overcame it. Tom has posted the method that ought to work, JAWS key+3 on the numpad. Since that doesn’t work for you, you might do a JAWS repair and a Microsoft Office repair.  If you’re unfamiliar with either repair method, please re-post.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

Greetings all can someone suggest how I might fix this problem. Instead of reading the number of messages jaws says   connectivity to your server I think it has to do with how outlook is set up in terms of the folder view but not sure.


moderated Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

Adrian Spratt
 

Marie,

 

Interestingly, my Dectalk Express synthesizer read “read” correctly both times in your example, that is, present tense first, then past tense. Whoever is behind this engine, or possibly the JAWS pronunciation itself, figured out a way to tell a synthesizer when to read certain words a certain way. Not all words work as well. “Polish” comes to mind. Whether it’s the surface smoother or a person from Poland, the pronunciation is the same.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

 

Part of the problem could be the weird issue in the English language of spelling words the same but having a different pronunciation depending on where the word is used. Unfortunately a screen reader can only have one way of pronouncing these word so they pick the most common usage.

Example is you might read a text today or you may have read it yesterday.

 

Marie

 

From: Leo

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:05 AM

Subject: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

 

Hi everyone,

I like to use eloquence synthesizer because it’s very responsive, and I’m used to it. However, if you use this voice on a regular basis, you’ll have probably noticed that eloquence awkwardly mispronounce lots of words, some of them very common words. So, I wonder if someone has a default dictionary for jaws that is willing to share. Besides, given that I’m not a native English speaker, all too often I can’t figure out how a word is accurately pronounced.

If someone could share with me their default.jdf file, I’d really appreciate it.

 

Tanks in advance

 

 

 

 

 

--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

Pramit
 

Hi James,

Make sure that Window is maximized and try Jaws Key + Tab to read number of messages.

Pramit

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:17 AM james hooper <rockiesfan296@...> wrote:

Greetings all can someone suggest how I might fix this problem. Instead of reading the number of messages jaws says   connectivity to your server I think it has to do with how outlook is set up in terms of the folder view but not sure.


moderated Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

Marie
 

Part of the problem could be the weird issue in the English language of spelling words the same but having a different pronunciation depending on where the word is used. Unfortunately a screen reader can only have one way of pronouncing these word so they pick the most common usage.
Example is you might read a text today or you may have read it yesterday.
 
Marie
 

From: Leo
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?
 

Hi everyone,

I like to use eloquence synthesizer because it’s very responsive, and I’m used to it. However, if you use this voice on a regular basis, you’ll have probably noticed that eloquence awkwardly mispronounce lots of words, some of them very common words. So, I wonder if someone has a default dictionary for jaws that is willing to share. Besides, given that I’m not a native English speaker, all too often I can’t figure out how a word is accurately pronounced.

If someone could share with me their default.jdf file, I’d really appreciate it.

 

Tanks in advance

 

 

 

 

 

--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Re: Facebook queston

David Diamond
 

The groups you belong to should show up under the groups menu.  Now, here is the trick, the last group you posted too will be the first one you see so to speak. I E, if you posted last to a kitchen group, it will be the first one in the line up.  Guide dog, could be right under the kitchen one or in the 6th position. Face Book only shows you the first 6 groups, under the 6th is the prompt for all of your face book groups. I’m musing if the group you were looking for was # 7 or lower.     


moderated Re: Defender and trojan notice

tom x
 

Thanks for your reply Nermin,

 

I had a pair of eyes look at the screen but all that was shown was it was a Trojan and was severe.  I would like to know where it was originally located and  where it is now after being blocked.

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 10 April 2020 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Defender and trojan notice

 

Hi, Tom,

 

use the touch cursor to navigate around the screen and get the desired info.

 

Regards,

Nermin