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moderated Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

Bill Tessore
 

Is Thunderbird a free email service like Gmail is free? And, what,if anything does it offer that Gmail does not?

Shabbat shalom,


Bill Tessore
billtessore@...


On Feb 13, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM, Loy wrote:
In the past, I found TB to be not accessible due to lack of knowledge of how to navigate the app.
-
Loy, what follows is not a criticism, but an observation that's a direct offshoot of yours.

Accessibility of a piece of software cannot be defined due to a lack of knowledge about how to use it.  Virtually any piece of software one is completely unfamiliar with is not accessible under that definition.  But if you know that there exist many users of that software who are also screen reader users, it is absolutely accessible.

Not knowing how to use something is in no way the same as something being designed badly and unable to be accessed via a screen reader.   If you cannot get to functions and use them with a screen reader, that's inaccessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

 

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM, Loy wrote:
In the past, I found TB to be not accessible due to lack of knowledge of how to navigate the app.
-
Loy, what follows is not a criticism, but an observation that's a direct offshoot of yours.

Accessibility of a piece of software cannot be defined due to a lack of knowledge about how to use it.  Virtually any piece of software one is completely unfamiliar with is not accessible under that definition.  But if you know that there exist many users of that software who are also screen reader users, it is absolutely accessible.

Not knowing how to use something is in no way the same as something being designed badly and unable to be accessed via a screen reader.   If you cannot get to functions and use them with a screen reader, that's inaccessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

Loy
 


Thanks for this tutorial. I may be tempted to try TB again. In the past, I found TB to be not accessible due to lack of knowledge of how to navigate the app.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

Thunderbird Email Client Tutorial

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Thanks!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

 

Thunderbird Email Client Tutorial

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

 

Thunderbird Email Client Tutorial

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How accessible is Thunderbird?

 

Extremely.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated How accessible is Thunderbird?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2020 and Windows 10.  How accessible is Thunderbird?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: How to record jaws activity

Richard Turner
 

You can get quite a lot of what you want from the Jaws speech history.

After going through a page for a while, press insert+space, then the letter h.

What comes up will be at least the Jaws speech up to a certain point.  I do not recall how much you can gather at once, but it is quite a lot.

 

For example, After writing the above paragraph I brought up the jaws history and I could have copied it and your message into the clipboard.

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 5:20 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to record jaws activity

 

Hello All,

 

I am using jaws 2021 on Windows 10 and both are fully patched.

 

I am working with ux designers to get some sites to be not only accessible but usable.  That is they met all the requirements to have  the page accessible but when using a screen reader it is not easy to navigate.  So am working to get the pages usable.  My ask is does jaws have the function to record everything that is read out when navigating a page and saving it in a form like mp3 that I can provide to the ux developer?

 

 

Thanks, Abraham            

 


moderated Re: How to record jaws activity

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Abraham,

Is the SpeechHistory something you can use?

Press ins-space and then h.

The SpeechHistory will hold the last 500 spoken text.
This was 50 or 100 in earlier versions of jaws.

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 08:20:22 -0500 "Abraham Sweiss" <abrahamsweiss8@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I am using jaws 2021 on Windows 10 and both are fully patched.

I am working with ux designers to get some sites to be not only accessible but usable.  That is they met all the requirements to have  the page accessible but when using a screen reader it is not easy to navigate.  So am working to get the pages usable.  My ask is does jaws have the function to record everything that is read out when navigating a page and saving it in a form like mp3 that I can provide to the ux developer?


Thanks, Abraham




moderated How to record jaws activity

Abraham Sweiss
 

Hello All,

 

I am using jaws 2021 on Windows 10 and both are fully patched.

 

I am working with ux designers to get some sites to be not only accessible but usable.  That is they met all the requirements to have  the page accessible but when using a screen reader it is not easy to navigate.  So am working to get the pages usable.  My ask is does jaws have the function to record everything that is read out when navigating a page and saving it in a form like mp3 that I can provide to the ux developer?

 

 

Thanks, Abraham            

 


moderated Scripts for putty when using remote desktop feature.

Abraham Sweiss
 

Hello All,

 

I am using jaws 2021 on Windows 10 and both are fully patched.

 

When I use putty on my local work station, jaws is able to read the contents of the console.

The issue I have is when I either use citrix or RDP and access putty on the remote system,jaws can not handle and all the existing scripts for putty that I am aware of does not handle this use case.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to address getting jaws to work with putty running on a remote system.

The remote systems I access run iether windows 16 or 10.

 

 

Thanks, Abraham            

 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for coding, programming, and website info

Abraham Sweiss
 

Hello Jeff,

 

If the goal is to learn how to code, I would start at the following article.

http://htdp.org/2003-09-26/

 

Although last  time it was updated was in  2003, the information is still relevant.

 

 

Thanks, Abraham            

 

From: Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: looking for coding, programming, and website info

 

Hello List,

I am interested in dipping my toes in the waters of coding, programming, and website design.

Can anyone recommend, books, websites, courses, or podcasts to locate on these topics. I am a total beginner when it omes to these areas.

I use Jaws 2021 on a Windows 10 laptop, with a Focus 40 Braille display. Currently I am working on my Salesforce Admin, and then hopely the Nonprofit Salesforce certification.

You can share on this list or just e-mail me directly at jlukacsena@...

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Audio Bluetooth Sound Setting

Randy Barnett
 

what's your Bluetooth headphones paired to your computer going to jaws utilities sound card and select the Bluetooth headphones from the list. They should route jaws to your Bluetooth and your microphone and speaker should work for zoom as if jaws wasn't even there.

Randy Barnett

On Feb 12, 2021, at 8:26 PM, michaelpbaity@... wrote:



Regarding Bluetooth headset- I am trying to connect my bt headset for isolating jaws messages and then have audio from a zoom conference coming thru my external speakers. I also am using a webcam as a microphone because my desktop does not have an internal microphone. I have not been able to get everything running at the same time. Any suggestions?  


moderated Re: Can I get My messages to go to a specific folder automatically?

Richard Turner
 

If you are asking whether Outlook is going to stop, no. Outlook is here to stay.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 12, 2021, at 8:25 PM, meow meow <soberwater26q@...> wrote:


Rosie here...
is outlook is stop use program?
that I thought outlook, internet explored is shutting down.
is this correct?
I'm using window live email now and wonder this going shutting down too the window live is from using program not from internet website.
 

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Can I get My messages to go to a specific folder automatically?

'If you are using Outlook, it has the ability to create rules that would automatically move emails from a particular address into a folder and you can assign a different sound to those messages.
You would want to create a folder first, but this is at a level that would be hard to write out instructions for.
Microsoft accessibility would likely help you with this.
Or maybe someone knows a good online tutorial.
Microsoft accessibility phone: 800-936-5900


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Maria Reyes <reyesm191@...> wrote:

 Hi, 
Is there a way to get my list messages into a specific folder? Like in Gmail you can automatically send messages into specific folders. I'm using Jaws. 

want to talk about all sorts of topics? join my list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in the subject field.


moderated Re: Audio Bluetooth Sound Setting

michaelpbaity@...
 

Regarding Bluetooth headset- I am trying to connect my bt headset for isolating jaws messages and then have audio from a zoom conference coming thru my external speakers. I also am using a webcam as a microphone because my desktop does not have an internal microphone. I have not been able to get everything running at the same time. Any suggestions?  


moderated Re: Can I get My messages to go to a specific folder automatically?

meow meow
 

Rosie here...
is outlook is stop use program?
that I thought outlook, internet explored is shutting down.
is this correct?
I'm using window live email now and wonder this going shutting down too the window live is from using program not from internet website.
 

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Can I get My messages to go to a specific folder automatically?

'If you are using Outlook, it has the ability to create rules that would automatically move emails from a particular address into a folder and you can assign a different sound to those messages.
You would want to create a folder first, but this is at a level that would be hard to write out instructions for.
Microsoft accessibility would likely help you with this.
Or maybe someone knows a good online tutorial.
Microsoft accessibility phone: 800-936-5900


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 11, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Maria Reyes <reyesm191@...> wrote:

 Hi, 
Is there a way to get my list messages into a specific folder? Like in Gmail you can automatically send messages into specific folders. I'm using Jaws. 

want to talk about all sorts of topics? join my list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in the subject field.


moderated Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Leo,

Is that done with the Word feature for creating a Table of Contents?  I havent’ used that in decades, but could look at it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

 

Hi, I don’t know if you have already done what I’m going to suggest, but after  adding headings to my word documents,

I usually create a table content in the first page, in this way, whenever I open my document, I can jump to a specific topic quicker than you can say Jack Robinson!

 

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

 

Just wanted to report back that I’m loving this quick way of adding headings to Word documents.  I took the time to create my own way I want the fonts to appear or each of them and now I’m finding using for this in other documents.  Such a great way to quickly jump around in larger documents. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Press CTRL alt and whatever number you want. For example, 1 for heading 1 text and 2 for heading 2 text. You can press the above hotkey either before or after typing your text. Just know that after you type text you want in heading xxx, you have to of course select it before pressing above hotkey.

 

On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Hi,

I have a long JAWS help file where I keep my notes on using JAWS with various software.  What is the easiest way to add headings so that I can turn on quick keys and navigate this large document with level 1 and level 2 headings?  The style task pane seemed a bit intimidating.  I can go back to my Window Eyes and Word 2010 book from Cathie Ann to see if she covers the topic more thoroughly, but hoping someone can answer for this simple aspect. Using JAWS 2021 and Word 2016.  I really need a better way to find topics in this document, over the way I’ve been doing it.

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

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moderated Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

Bill White
 

Hi, Leo. Could you please outline exactly what you do to create the table of content in your Word documents, so I can duplicate the first page table of topics you generate?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 5:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

 

Hi, I don’t know if you have already done what I’m going to suggest, but after  adding headings to my word documents,

I usually create a table content in the first page, in this way, whenever I open my document, I can jump to a specific topic quicker than you can say Jack Robinson!

 

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

 

Just wanted to report back that I’m loving this quick way of adding headings to Word documents.  I took the time to create my own way I want the fonts to appear or each of them and now I’m finding using for this in other documents.  Such a great way to quickly jump around in larger documents. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Easiest way to add headings to Word doc?

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Press CTRL alt and whatever number you want. For example, 1 for heading 1 text and 2 for heading 2 text. You can press the above hotkey either before or after typing your text. Just know that after you type text you want in heading xxx, you have to of course select it before pressing above hotkey.

 

On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Hi,

I have a long JAWS help file where I keep my notes on using JAWS with various software.  What is the easiest way to add headings so that I can turn on quick keys and navigate this large document with level 1 and level 2 headings?  The style task pane seemed a bit intimidating.  I can go back to my Window Eyes and Word 2010 book from Cathie Ann to see if she covers the topic more thoroughly, but hoping someone can answer for this simple aspect. Using JAWS 2021 and Word 2016.  I really need a better way to find topics in this document, over the way I’ve been doing it.

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

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moderated : Jaws2020 monitor message

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi Glenn and others Well it's did it again on yesterday evening around 5
p.m. when I heard thunderstorm I shut down the computer then I waited til
the storm calmed down and turns on desktop computer around 7:45 p.m.
yesterday evening so I waited for 15 minute jaws didn't even come on then
I called Mr.James around 8:45 p.m. last night to tell him it did again when
I shut down and turns back on computer that jaws never come back on so he
told me to leave it on and checks it tomorrow (Friday) today when I came on
computer this morning jaws didn't do no talking when my brother came inside
the house to bring breakfast and I asked him does he see anything on the
monitor screen he say No nothing so I called Mr.James and left voicemail he
called me back I told him my brother say there is nothing on the screen
monitor at all that was 12:35 p.m. so I told him I have appt with barber
shop at 1:30 p.m. so he told me when I get back home have my driver to see
if he see anything on monitor screen my driver say No nothing on the screen
so I called Mr.James back so he told me to shut down the computer and turns
it back on then I asked my mom if she see anything on the monitor screen she
say No while Mr.James was stil on the phone with me so Mr.James told me he
will come and will call me when he is at the door . He called me and I let
him inside the house he checked the monitor and said the monitor is good
nothing wrong with it so he said it is the computer so he able to get jaws
to come on he said it's the starter up and able to resolved it and had do
lot of disk cleans up and stay for little while to finished doing
everything then he shut down the computer to see what's happen from there.
So He got it resolved and will come back next week to pick up computer tower
to fix the computer tower.
Addison

-----Original Message-----
From: O. Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 5:39 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Jaws2020 monitor message

Hi Glenn My name is not Madison it is Addison My brother is the one who
put the momonitor and hooked it to the computer tower he unplugged
everything then plugged it back in like he say there is something in there
but he can't fix it and tried to activate jaws it won't come on so he say
the monitor is not working but after 5:15 p.m. almost 5:30 p.m. yesterday
jaws came back on !! I did check it at 3:00 p.m. jaws did not come on so I
have tried to activate jaws and it won't come on
Addison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 monitor message

Madison,
Do you have an Internet connection that is working?
That is, have you tried unplugging and plugging your modem and router?
I'm assuming where you are eMailing from is not the computer in question.
And I wonder if that yearly subscription of Jaws needs a working Internet
connection to work.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "O.Addison Gethers" <o.addisongethers@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 monitor message


Mario My brother done everything to try to get jaws to come on
Addison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 monitor message

to answer your question as another way to restart JAWS, you could press
control+alt+j if you have assigned a hotkey to the desktop shortcut.

also you can press insert+alt+f4 and wait to see if JAWS eventually
restarts. this takes a bit shorter than pressing alt+f4 and then
control+alt+j.

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com]
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 8:13 PM
Subject: Jaws2020 monitor message
Hi All I have jaws2020 and desktop computer windows10 ,well last night
(Tuesday) I was reading email then suddenly jaws was reading message
then it cut off then I said to myself it's sounds like the electricity
power cut off and I feel computer tower is still on then I ask my sister
did the power cut off she say no then I press window + r to type in
jaws2020 however jaws did not come back on !! So I went to press
windows key + m to press alt +f4 arrow down once to restart press enter
the computer never restart then I went back on desktop press alt f4 to
press enter on shut down computer that didn't shut down either so I had
to press the power button on computer tower to turns off the computer .
Well this morning the computer was on but jaws still not saying anything
at all so I have try to reload jaws 2 time it won't come on then my
sister came and try to see if she can see what's going on the windows
screen monitor she told me the monitor is on then few second it's say
no detected signal so she try to restart the computer it won't
restart so she said that she will ask my brother to come over after his
doctor appointment so my brother said there is something on the windows
screen monitor but he can't fix it and say the monitor is not working
. Then this evening around 5:30 p.m. I call Mr.James to ask him when he
came by the house on yesterday with laptop and I was showing him
something on desktop computer did he see anything strange about the
monitor he said no then I went back on desktop computer while he was
still on the phone suddenly jaws start talking then Mr.James said it
probably was jaws doing it when my brother and I have try to reload
jaws it won't come on !! Does anyone have any idea what is the other
way to try to narrow jaws back on ?

Addison


moderated Re: Warning, was RE: How accessible is LibreOffice with JAWS?

Richard Turner
 

My point was, just don’t plan to update from within the software with Jaws.

NVDA works fine.

Otherwise, the software seems perfectly fine especially if one either cannot, or chooses not to, afford Microsoft’s software.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, was RE: How accessible is LibreOffice with JAWS?

 

I did not have this specific problem while checking for updates, however using JAWS 2018 at least I was unable to actually activate the update button.

One can just go to the libre office homepage and download the latest version.

Or ninite as already suggested, if one preefrs that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: February 12, 2021 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, was RE: How accessible is LibreOffice with JAWS?

 

While it seems to work fine with Jaws, do not, and I repeat, do not try to check for updates in Libre Office while Jaws is running!

It froze my computer, twice.

I tried it to get to 7.1.03, and I had to have my sighted wife kill the process.

I then tried it with NVDA, and was able to download the newer version and install it from my downloads folder.

After getting 7.1.03 installed with the usual reboot, I checked again for updates with Jaws 2021 running, and had to shut down because I couldn’t kill the process.

I will be writing them some feedback.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 7:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How accessible is LibreOffice with JAWS?

 

I do not use it much, but when I installed it to deal with a particular conversion issue it worked very well.

When you open it, at least for me, you get the following as you tab:

LibreOffice 7.0 checked
Open File Button‑ O
Remote Files Button‑ s
Recent Files button menu‑ R
Templates button menu‑ e
Writer Document Button‑ W
Calc Spreadsheet Button‑ C
Impress Presentation Button‑ I
Draw Drawing Button‑ D
Math Formula Button‑ M
Base Database Button‑ B
Help Button‑ l
Extensions Button‑ x
Recent Files List List box‑

 

 

I only played a little with the calc spread sheet and the writer, but given that it is free, it is well worth checking out.

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 7:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How accessible is LibreOffice with JAWS?

 

Hi!

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.  How accessible is JAWS with LibreOffice 7.1.0?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

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