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moderated Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

Adrian Spratt
 

Robin, I sometimes get this log-in screen. I press enter, and it goes away.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 11:55 AM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

 

Sometime early last fall I bought a license for Office 2016 for my home laptop.  All was find for several months. Then, after some update in the last, I’d say, 2 months, I now get this pop when launching Outlook that tells me to login.  I can’t recall the exact message.)   Using the password to my main email account and Microsoft store logs me in.  I cannot seem to bypass this login step.  Here are my issues or questions. 

 

  • Does anyone else get this screen? 
  • This login screen is having issues with JAWS 2019 and 2020.  If I enter forms mode to type my password, I can type the first character, then forms mode turns back off and I have to manually turn it off again to finish the password.  This is a consistent issue. 
  • I’m also just annoyed at this new step and would love to disable it.  I’m not sure what I may have done to trigger it or if this was just an Office update.  I did notice this coincides with now seeing a Skype icon in my System Tray that says I’m logged in, even though I don’t use Skype.  I do not get this screen if I just launch Word or Excel, although I suppose it’s fair to say that I typically launch Outlook first, so maybe I need to go test this from a fresh restart of my computer.

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

Randy Barnett
 

Yes repair Jaws as it requests. Download the correct version of jaws for you. Run it and select repair.

On 2/17/2020 11:16 AM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,

I posted this once before, and I am doing it again, because hopefully someone may have a thought on how to resolve the problem. I have tried calling FS support twice and waited 30 minutes twice, and no one comes on the line to help.

Anyway here is the message. The freedom scientific audio display driver is not installed properly. To fix this problem,  reboot your computer if you have not done so already. If you have rebooted your computer and the problem still exists, run a repair on the jaws installation to repair the display driver. Go to the jaws set up package, and type argument jaws/repair.

I hope I got this correct. the message goes by so fast when I boot up, and I can’t get it to hold for me. It says the message and there is an ok button, and that’s it. Is there any way to resolve this? jim

moderated Re: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

Ann Byrne
 

YOu may have to completely uninstall JAWS and reinstall it. I think that's how I got rid of that message. Uninstalled including from the apps\roaming whatever that is hidden.

Good luck!

moderated Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Ann Byrne
 

Be aware that when you change a color in Office, the color JAWS reports when you are moving through the colors dialog is *not what it reports when the color is applied. I chose orange from the color grid, and when it was in a cell JAWS called it "antique white". "Dark Blue" became "slate grey".

moderated Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

Van Lant, Robin
 

Ok, I’ll go look for the checkbox and see if that helps.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

 

I recently set up Office including Outlook with Exchange accounts up on a new PC and had no problems with that login screen or to check the Remember my credentials checkbox.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

 

My first thought is to call Microsoft Accessibility: 1-800-936-5900

It sounds like Skype may have decided to launch at startup? 

One reason I'd call Microsoft Accessibility is to have them see if there isn't a remember me checkbox that Jaws is missing.

Another thing to try, is to unload Jaws, run Narrator with Windows+control+enter and then launch word and see if there is a remember me checkbox or if it kicks you out of the password after only one character.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Feb 17, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Sometime early last fall I bought a license for Office 2016 for my home laptop.  All was find for several months. Then, after some update in the last, I’d say, 2 months, I now get this pop when launching Outlook that tells me to login.  I can’t recall the exact message.)   Using the password to my main email account and Microsoft store logs me in.  I cannot seem to bypass this login step.  Here are my issues or questions. 

 

  • Does anyone else get this screen? 
  • This login screen is having issues with JAWS 2019 and 2020.  If I enter forms mode to type my password, I can type the first character, then forms mode turns back off and I have to manually turn it off again to finish the password.  This is a consistent issue. 
  • I’m also just annoyed at this new step and would love to disable it.  I’m not sure what I may have done to trigger it or if this was just an Office update.  I did notice this coincides with now seeing a Skype icon in my System Tray that says I’m logged in, even though I don’t use Skype.  I do not get this screen if I just launch Word or Excel, although I suppose it’s fair to say that I typically launch Outlook first, so maybe I need to go test this from a fresh restart of my computer.

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thanks for the ideas.  I’m going to play with using the Find Command, Filtering and other suggestions.   I am new to using the JAWS speech Schemes and see how this works well in Word, but I’m not getting them to work in Excel.  That might have been really helpful and maybe I’ll find a way to get it to work.

 

I’ll type up some questions and also call Microsoft Accessibility to see if they have any ideas.  It doesn’t’ help that there are just so many colors available in Office products.  The file I got from a coworker last week is using a background color called Khaki1.  She suggested that I could update the cells I edited, but I’m not even sure how to find this color when I need to fill appropriate cells.  I think I’ll ask some of the executive assistants around here for tips.  Even without the blindness aspect, maybe I can gain some best practices and tricks that might make my work easier when I need to add colors to a file.

 

Robin

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

 

Robin,

Please bear in mind that I have no personal experience in dealing with color-coded spreadsheets but I believe I can get you started on finding some possible solutions.

First, Excel's Find command, available via the ctrl-F hotkey, contains an Options button within this dialog. When you activate this button you will be in another  dialog. From this dialog, navigate with the tab key and look for the Format button. Once you activate the Format button you will be in a multi-page dialog box. One of these tabs is a Font tab. Within the font page is a color picker, where you can specify a specific color that you're looking for. Once you perform a color search it is likely that activating the Find Next command, which is probably f3, will search for the next cell containing the color you previously searched for. Along with that you could also use the Speech and Sounds Manager, found within Settings Center, to set JAWS to behave in a certain way when you move to a cell containing a specific color. As an example, it should be possible to tell JAWS to play a certain sound when you move into a cell containing red text or you could have JAWS identify that color by speaking its name when it gains focus. You can even tell JAWS to read text in a specific color in a different voice. For red text you could set JAWS to read it with a lower pitch voice, as an example. The instructions in how to do this would be in the JAWS help system and you have many options from which to choose. I wish that JAWS would have keystrokes where you could bring up a list of cells with specific color attributes, such as all cells with red text. I don't believe that this capability exists with the current set of Excel scripts. I think this is something which FS should add and it might be worth writing to suggestions@... to ask them to add this. It could likely be done with scripting.

I hope this helps.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 2/13/2020 4:24 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

Using JAWS 2019 with Office 365 and Windows 10.

I seem to be working with more people, including my new manager, who really like color coding in Excel.  I totally get it, as I can clearly understand how this visually makes looking at a large spreadsheet file easier, especially on calendar or schedule files.  The first project I had for my new manager was to take a color coded calendar she had from last summer and update it for this year, color coding each event based on whether I was able to secure the necessary room reservation.  My approach in this case was to hunt for color coded cells, and copy the color into a place off to the side, then clear all the colors and then paste the colors back in to new cells as I made the room reservations.  This is just an example.

 

Hear my question with the lens of someone who is losing more usable vision and adjusting to new leadership in my role.  I’m feeling a bit insecure about my abilities and am wondering if there are any tips from others who share spreadsheet files with sighted colleagues on managing colors and/or fancier layouts.  I’m intimidated by these large files my new manager is sending.  I’ve typically been the one creating the spreadsheet, so I could lay it out in my own way, but I’m taking on new job duties and inheriting files with lots of data that is just just a simple grid.

 

I guess I just need to hear of there are any tips or empathy out there. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

 

And are you sure it’s not the “video display driver”, I have never heard of an “audio display driver”.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

 

If you run the jaws install file you should get an option to repair jaws.

 

Hopefully that will do it.

 

Otherwise, you probably get to sit on hold or hope someone here has more info.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

 

Hi all,

I posted this once before, and I am doing it again, because hopefully someone may have a thought on how to resolve the problem. I have tried calling FS support twice and waited 30 minutes twice, and no one comes on the line to help.

Anyway here is the message. The freedom scientific audio display driver is not installed properly. To fix this problem,  reboot your computer if you have not done so already. If you have rebooted your computer and the problem still exists, run a repair on the jaws installation to repair the display driver. Go to the jaws set up package, and type argument jaws/repair.

I hope I got this correct. the message goes by so fast when I boot up, and I can’t get it to hold for me. It says the message and there is an ok button, and that’s it. Is there any way to resolve this? jim

moderated Re: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

Richard Turner
 

If you run the jaws install file you should get an option to repair jaws.

 

Hopefully that will do it.

 

Otherwise, you probably get to sit on hold or hope someone here has more info.

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

 

Hi all,

I posted this once before, and I am doing it again, because hopefully someone may have a thought on how to resolve the problem. I have tried calling FS support twice and waited 30 minutes twice, and no one comes on the line to help.

Anyway here is the message. The freedom scientific audio display driver is not installed properly. To fix this problem,  reboot your computer if you have not done so already. If you have rebooted your computer and the problem still exists, run a repair on the jaws installation to repair the display driver. Go to the jaws set up package, and type argument jaws/repair.

I hope I got this correct. the message goes by so fast when I boot up, and I can’t get it to hold for me. It says the message and there is an ok button, and that’s it. Is there any way to resolve this? jim

moderated a message I keep getting when I boot up my computer.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all,

I posted this once before, and I am doing it again, because hopefully someone may have a thought on how to resolve the problem. I have tried calling FS support twice and waited 30 minutes twice, and no one comes on the line to help.

Anyway here is the message. The freedom scientific audio display driver is not installed properly. To fix this problem,  reboot your computer if you have not done so already. If you have rebooted your computer and the problem still exists, run a repair on the jaws installation to repair the display driver. Go to the jaws set up package, and type argument jaws/repair.

I hope I got this correct. the message goes by so fast when I boot up, and I can’t get it to hold for me. It says the message and there is an ok button, and that’s it. Is there any way to resolve this? jim

moderated Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

 

I recently set up Office including Outlook with Exchange accounts up on a new PC and had no problems with that login screen or to check the Remember my credentials checkbox.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

 

My first thought is to call Microsoft Accessibility: 1-800-936-5900

It sounds like Skype may have decided to launch at startup? 

One reason I'd call Microsoft Accessibility is to have them see if there isn't a remember me checkbox that Jaws is missing.

Another thing to try, is to unload Jaws, run Narrator with Windows+control+enter and then launch word and see if there is a remember me checkbox or if it kicks you out of the password after only one character.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Feb 17, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Sometime early last fall I bought a license for Office 2016 for my home laptop.  All was find for several months. Then, after some update in the last, I’d say, 2 months, I now get this pop when launching Outlook that tells me to login.  I can’t recall the exact message.)   Using the password to my main email account and Microsoft store logs me in.  I cannot seem to bypass this login step.  Here are my issues or questions. 

 

  • Does anyone else get this screen? 
  • This login screen is having issues with JAWS 2019 and 2020.  If I enter forms mode to type my password, I can type the first character, then forms mode turns back off and I have to manually turn it off again to finish the password.  This is a consistent issue. 
  • I’m also just annoyed at this new step and would love to disable it.  I’m not sure what I may have done to trigger it or if this was just an Office update.  I did notice this coincides with now seeing a Skype icon in my System Tray that says I’m logged in, even though I don’t use Skype.  I do not get this screen if I just launch Word or Excel, although I suppose it’s fair to say that I typically launch Outlook first, so maybe I need to go test this from a fresh restart of my computer.

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

Richard Turner
 

My first thought is to call Microsoft Accessibility: 1-800-936-5900
It sounds like Skype may have decided to launch at startup? 
One reason I'd call Microsoft Accessibility is to have them see if there isn't a remember me checkbox that Jaws is missing.
Another thing to try, is to unload Jaws, run Narrator with Windows+control+enter and then launch word and see if there is a remember me checkbox or if it kicks you out of the password after only one character.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 17, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Sometime early last fall I bought a license for Office 2016 for my home laptop.  All was find for several months. Then, after some update in the last, I’d say, 2 months, I now get this pop when launching Outlook that tells me to login.  I can’t recall the exact message.)   Using the password to my main email account and Microsoft store logs me in.  I cannot seem to bypass this login step.  Here are my issues or questions. 

 

  • Does anyone else get this screen? 
  • This login screen is having issues with JAWS 2019 and 2020.  If I enter forms mode to type my password, I can type the first character, then forms mode turns back off and I have to manually turn it off again to finish the password.  This is a consistent issue. 
  • I’m also just annoyed at this new step and would love to disable it.  I’m not sure what I may have done to trigger it or if this was just an Office update.  I did notice this coincides with now seeing a Skype icon in my System Tray that says I’m logged in, even though I don’t use Skype.  I do not get this screen if I just launch Word or Excel, although I suppose it’s fair to say that I typically launch Outlook first, so maybe I need to go test this from a fresh restart of my computer.

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

 

The only time I have seen this happen is if one has changed one's store password does not match what the e-mail server knows about, which will trigger the dialog for password entry.  Generally there is a checkbox in that dialog that says, "Remember password," or something very similar after the text box in which the password is entered.

If you type in your current password, and it's been being accepted, then make sure the next time the dialog presents itself you hunt for that checkbox and make sure it's checked.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated trouble with a new login screen in Outlook 2016

Van Lant, Robin
 

Sometime early last fall I bought a license for Office 2016 for my home laptop.  All was find for several months. Then, after some update in the last, I’d say, 2 months, I now get this pop when launching Outlook that tells me to login.  I can’t recall the exact message.)   Using the password to my main email account and Microsoft store logs me in.  I cannot seem to bypass this login step.  Here are my issues or questions. 

 

  • Does anyone else get this screen? 
  • This login screen is having issues with JAWS 2019 and 2020.  If I enter forms mode to type my password, I can type the first character, then forms mode turns back off and I have to manually turn it off again to finish the password.  This is a consistent issue. 
  • I’m also just annoyed at this new step and would love to disable it.  I’m not sure what I may have done to trigger it or if this was just an Office update.  I did notice this coincides with now seeing a Skype icon in my System Tray that says I’m logged in, even though I don’t use Skype.  I do not get this screen if I just launch Word or Excel, although I suppose it’s fair to say that I typically launch Outlook first, so maybe I need to go test this from a fresh restart of my computer.

 

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear David Diamond & List:
That may be true. I Know they have sold Perkins Braillers for years at exactly what Ontario ADP pays maximum.

TO this day, I do not think CNIV stocks Amy Perkins Accessories, such as the wooden carrying case or the DYMO tape adapter.
They recently purchased Frontier Computing mot being able to bill the several provinces will seriously cramp their style.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of David Diamond
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I have it on good authority that the agency you speak of here in Canada cannot do business with government agencies anymore. Too greedy. They shot themselves in the foot because they vastly marked up the price of visual aids when submitting quotes to the government for such aids. .

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: February 16, 2020 6:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Dear Mario & List:
The toll-free number for VISPERO is (800) 444-4443. However, Canadians are referred to Optalec Canada, their distributor here.

I have bought SMA from the U. S. occasionally, but the proper procedure is to order from Optalec Canada. CNIV is now a dealer of VISPERO.
I do not believe Canadians qualify for the annual subscription, however OPTALEC will know if we have it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Mario
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I thought Vispero/FS was going to allow the subscription plan for Canadian users. has that fizzled out?
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, February 14, 2020, 11:58 AM
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA
The price for an SMA last time was $60. So less expensive to maintain that than go to the $90 subscription unless you are several versions out of date.
Too bad the subscription model is just for those of us in the US.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

On Feb 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:


That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws
2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this, I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll-free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

*Best regards,*

*Sieghard*

**

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Blind Gamer
*Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Question regarding jaws SMA**

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws SMA then how much price for upgrade

Thanks

moderated Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

David Diamond
 

I have it on good authority that the agency you speak of here in Canada cannot do business with government agencies anymore. Too greedy. They shot themselves in the foot because they vastly marked up the price of visual aids when submitting quotes to the government for such aids. .

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: February 16, 2020 6:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Dear Mario & List:
The toll-free number for VISPERO is (800) 444-4443. However, Canadians are referred to Optalec Canada, their distributor here.

I have bought SMA from the U. S. occasionally, but the proper procedure is to order from Optalec Canada. CNIV is now a dealer of VISPERO.
I do not believe Canadians qualify for the annual subscription, however OPTALEC will know if we have it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Mario
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I thought Vispero/FS was going to allow the subscription plan for Canadian users. has that fizzled out?
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, February 14, 2020, 11:58 AM
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA
The price for an SMA last time was $60. So less expensive to maintain that than go to the $90 subscription unless you are several versions out of date.
Too bad the subscription model is just for those of us in the US.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:



That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws
2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this, I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll-free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

*Best regards,*

*Sieghard*

**

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Blind Gamer
*Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Question regarding jaws SMA**

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws SMA then how much price for upgrade

Thanks

moderated Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Mario & List:
The toll-free number for VISPERO is (800) 444-4443. However, Canadians are referred to Optalec Canada, their distributor here.

I have bought SMA from the U. S. occasionally, but the proper procedure is to order from Optalec Canada. CNIV is now a dealer of VISPERO.
I do not believe Canadians qualify for the annual subscription, however OPTALEC will know if we have it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of Mario
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I thought Vispero/FS was going to allow the subscription plan for Canadian users. has that fizzled out?
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, February 14, 2020, 11:58 AM
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA
The price for an SMA last time was $60. So less expensive to maintain that than go to the $90 subscription unless you are several versions out of date.
Too bad the subscription model is just for those of us in the US.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner


On Feb 14, 2020, at 8:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:



That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws
2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and
it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and
this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of
course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go
straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used
up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another
SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you
would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws
subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle
you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are
on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always
entitle you to install and use the latest update.

Having said all this, I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero
directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws
serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll-free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

*Best regards,*

*Sieghard*

**

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Blind Gamer
*Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Question regarding jaws SMA**

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws SMA then how much price for upgrade

Thanks

moderated Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

 

And that is exactly why it's important nowadays for people to include not only what version of Jaws they are using, but also what version of Windows and, if it's about a browser or other application, the version of said browser or application.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having a edge and forms mode problem?

If you are using the chromium based Edge and any but the latest updated version of jaws 2020 then you have to turn off UI automation. It is turned on by default now and only the latest version of jaws 2020 just released last week supports UI automation. If you cant get this version of jaws then you need to disable UI automation in Edge.

Just google it if you need a how to.
On 2/14/2020 2:25 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Both myself and my close  friend Tom Klaus and myself are in a role
playing game.
I've noticed lately that when using edge and jaws that the forms mode
doesn't stay on and you need to double check that forms mode stays on
before typing in a speed and or use any of the features within the
game.
I've also notice when typing in a field and or password for a web page
as well that forms mode doesn't stay on.
Any thought on this?
Many Thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG


moderated Re: KeePass Overview for managing passwords

John Covici
 

Keepass has such a setting 60 seconds seems good to me.

On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:05:34 -0500,
Mario wrote:

I would imagine there would be a setting that would automatically
clear the clipboard after a password had been pasted, since
Keepass is a password manager.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jim Ruby [mailto:jimruby67@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020, 11:38 AM
Subject: KeePass Overview for managing passwords
Yes, but if you leave your password in the clipboard that is not
secure either. I hate some of the websites that don't allow the paste
function.

On 2/16/20, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
ironic, because having to type a password is not as secure as pasting it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jim Ruby [mailto:jimruby67@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2020, 10:42 AM
Subject: KeePass Overview for managing passwords
Hi, Thank you for this overview. The only problem I see is some
websites now may block the paste function (control v) so a password
must be typed and this is by design as security gets tighter.


On 2/16/20, Alan Lemly <@walemly> wrote:
John,

I'm a bit puzzled by your below post. I don't know about KeePass on the Mac
as I use Windows but KeePass Touch on iOS works very well with my KeePass
kdbx database synced using Dropbox. And I'm not sure what Chrome has to do
with KeePass. I maintain the passwords database on my local Windows
computer
with the installed KeePass program and no browser, Chrome or otherwise, is
involved with its administration. And maybe you could explain what you mean
by its implementations being done by volunteers. My overview was written so
that individuals could use KeePass to manage their own passwords so I'm
confused by your implementation reference.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: KeePass Overview for managing passwords

Just to let people know, it no longer works on the mac and its various IOS
implementations are not very good, its all done by volunteers and so the
implementations vary a lot in quality depending on who is doing them. It
seems not to work with Chrome, or last time I looked.


On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:46:35 -0500,
Judy Redlich wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>] Are use the key pass
program. I like it too. Thank you for sending the overview. I started
using it about a year ago.
On Feb 15, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly <@walemly> wrote:

?
I promised this overview of the KeePass program about a month ago and I
apologize for the delay in completing it. The full overview with
navigable headings follows my signature.

Alan Lemly

I'm writing an overview of how to use the basic features of the KeePass
program to manage your passwords with your computer. I'm running Windows
7 with Fusion 2019 and using KeePass version 2.44, the most recent
downloadable version, for purposes of this discussion. I will include
navigable headings where appropriate and since I'm sending this post in
html format, these headings should be maintained. This document was
completed on February 15, 2020.
Introduction
KeePass is an open source program available for free for maintaining a
user's passwords. This discussion will be about running KeePass on a
Windows computer but my understanding is that it will also run on Linux
and Mac OS X. Note the spelling of the program which appears to be a
combination of the words keep and an abbreviation of password and don't
make the mistake I did thinking it's spelled like a key to unlock
something. KeePass is basically a small database management system where
the underlying records are your passwords. A database is really just a
table or spreadsheet of information where each row represents a record
and each column represents a field of data for that record. For password
records, the main fields in KeePass are Title, User Name, and Password
where Title is the item with the password such as NLS BARD account. Be
aware that KeePass has two main versions and various build iterations of
each, version 1.x and version 2.x. I recommend you use version 2.x as I
believe it contains more accessibility and this discussion will be about
it.
KeePass Website
The main KeePass website can be found here:

https://keepass.info/

The site contains a lot of helpful information and I'd recommend you
explore it to gather what you need. I'd suggest you start by pressing
Insert + F7 to generate a list of links and arrow through them to find
your interests most quickly. You can go to the Downloads link from this
list or use the following link to download the KeePass program:

https://keepass.info/download.html

KeePass has both fully installable and portable versions. As you arrow
through the available downloads, you can pick whether you want the
installer which will be an exe file or the Portable version which will
be a zip file. As you know, Portable versions don't add anything to your
registry and can be copied to a flash drive for portability after being
unzipped.
Running KeePass the first time
I installed the fully installable version of KeePass a few years back
when I started using it and I have no intention of uninstalling it for
purposes of this overview. Be aware of that so if you experience
something different from my explanation, the reason might relate to
this. I will attempt to mirror a new installation by creating a new
KeePass database file that will hopefully yield similar results to
those who are installing it for the first time.

When I pressed Ctrl + n to create an new KeePass database file, I was
prompted to save it with the name Database.kdbx in the same folder of my
existing KeePass database. First time users of the program will probably
get different results but I'd recommend that if you're a Dropbox user,
that you save your KeePass database kdbx file in your Dropbox folder.
This will make syncing it with a mobile device discussed later much
easier. You should make note of this file name in order to make it
easier to find in the future. After providing the database filename and
location, you are in a dialog box to create your composite master key
which is your master password to access your KeePass database. Choose a
password that isn't easily cracked but that you can easily remember.
This will be the only password you have to remember going forward
because all the others will be housed in KeePass to recall as needed.
Type in your master password and tab once where you'll land on a
checkbox that is checked to hide the password value using asterisks.
Tab again to reenter your master password. Tab once which takes you to a
Show expert options checkbox which you should leave unchecked. Tab again
which takes you to a Help button which you can tab past to the ok button
which you should execute. You will be taken to a create new password
database dialog box which is multi tabbed with tabs for General,
Security, Compression, Recycle Bin, and Advanced. Each of these tabs
contain settings for the password database but accept for the General
tab discussed below, the defaults are fine and can be ignored. You will
be located on the General tab when you first enter this dialog in the
database name text box. I would recommend leaving this text box blank
and referring to your KeePass database by its filename previously
assigned. Tab again and you'll be taken to a database description text
box that you can also leave blank. In my opinion, these last two items
are for those who have more than one KeePass database file which I
strongly discourage for purposes of this discussion. Tab again and
you'll move to the default user name for new entries text box. This will
be the assigned user name whenever you create a new entry in your
KeePass database and I'd suggest typing your email address here. My
experience has been that an email address is most commonly the user name
for an account and this saves a step when creating a new password entry.
Tab again and you'll move to the custom database color checkbox which
you can leave unchecked. Tab until you hear ok and press enter. You are
then prompted if you'd like to print a KeePass emergency sheet which
will contain all the information needed to open your database. If
desired, this should be printed and saved in a safe place or you can
skip this step.

Adding entries to your new database
Adding a group
KeePass uses groups to categorize entries into its passwords database.
Think of groups like folders in Outlook or like subfolders on a Windows
computer for purposes of providing an organization structure to your
files. Use of KeePass groups will make it much easier to access your
passwords when you have hundreds of entries as I do. Also, the program
developer has said putting all entries in one group will cause the
program to work less efficiently when entries become numerous. The
default groups KeePass contains when first launched are General,
Windows, Network, Internet, Email, and Homebanking. These are shown on
the left side of the KeePass screen indented below the database name
to which they belong. In this discussion, remember that I named my
KeePass kdbx file Database so the default groups just listed are shown
below Database in my program. You can arrow up and down through these
groups to pick the appropriate one to house your new password entry. If
you do not want to use any of the default groups, arrow up to your
database name, press shift + F10 to open a context menu, arrow down to
Add group, and press enter. You will be placed in an add group dialog
where you can type the group name desired, tab to pick an icon which you
can ignore, tab to an expires checkbox which I recommend you leave
unchecked, and tab until you hear ok and press enter. I suggest you
leave the expires checkbox and date unchecked because I don't think you
want your password groups to expire. Focus will be on the group you just
created. You can have subgroups below groups so make sure focus is on
the database name when creating a new group so you won't end up with
numerous group levels unless that is what you prefer. My preference is
to have only one level of groups so I'm clear where I am when arrowing
up and down a sorted list. Be aware that groups are not automatically
sorted. For this discussion, I added a new group named Finance which
was placed as the last group in the group even though it's not the last
alphabetically. To change the order of your groups, tab or shift + tab
until you hear tree view and arrow up until focus is on your database
name, Database in this example. Press shift + F10 to open the context
menu, arrow down to Rearrange submenu and right arrow to open the
submenu and down arrow to Sort direct subgroups and press enter. All the
subgroups in your database will now be sorted alphabetically.
Adding a new password
You can add an new password entry to your KeePass database by pressing
ctrl + i. Remember, whichever group has focus when you press this hotkey
will contain the new entry. You can arrow up and down your groups to
ensure the desired one has focus. This is important because KeePass does
not provide a group entry field when adding a new record since it's
automatically assigned based on the group with focus. For this example,
I'm creating a new password in my Finance group. When pressing ctrl + I,
a multi-tabbed dialog opens with the Entry tab containing focus and the
Title text box containing the cursor. Type the title best suited for you
to find this entry later. For this example, I'm using Bank online
account. Tab once and you're prompted to pick an icon which you can
ignore, tab again and you'll be in the user name text box which should
already be populated with your email address. Use that email address if
appropriate or type in a new user name and tab. A default password will
be shown as asterisks and highlighted. You should type in the password
you desire for this entry. Tab once where you'll land on a hide field
using asterisks checkbox which is checked and which you can tab past.
You will then be on the repeat password text box where the original
default asterisked password is highlighted and must be retyped with your
new password which matches the one previously entered. Tab once and
you'll be on a generate a password button which you can use if you don't
wish to use your own password. If you execute this generate a password
button which I don't recommend, a context menu of choices will open that
you can arrow through to select the desired option. Since I don't
recommend using this, I'm not covering those options. Tab again and
you'll be in a URL text box where you can enter the web URL associated
with this account if desired. Tab again and you'll be in a Notes text
box where you can store any notes related to this entry. Tab again and
you'll be on an Expires checkbox which I don't recommend using. If you
do check it, tab again and enter the desired date of expiration. Tab
again and you'll be on a button to select one of the standard expire
times. Tab again to ok and press enter to complete the entry. You will
be on a two vertical pane screen not unlike a Windows Explorer screen
where folders are listed on the left side and the files they contain are
listed on the right side. In this case, your KeePass groups are listed
on the left and the entries in the group with focus is listed on the
right. The entry you just created contains focus. If you shift tab,
Fusion announces tree view and moves focus to the password's host group,
Finance in this example, and the group name will be spoken. Tab back and
list view will be spoken and the name of the entry with focus with some
of its details will be spoken. Pressing enter while n the passwords list
view will open an edit box for the entry with focus. The Entry tab
previously discussed will contain focus. While the Entry tab contains
most of what you need to manage password entries, i.e., titles, user
names, and passwords, I'm going to discuss one other tab in this
multi-tabbed entry edit dialog. Press ctrl + tab to move to the
Advanced tab. When you tab once, you'll be placed in a string fields
list. String fields are great for creating your own custom fields. For
example, in my Bank online account entry, I want to track the account's
fed routing number and the account number so I will set up two custom
string fields to do so. Tab once out of string fields list box and
you'll be on an add button where you press enter. You will land in a
name text box where edit is spoken. Type the name for this custom field
and for my example, I'll type FedRoute. If you've previously set up
string fields for this database, a list of previous field names will be
presented when you start typing characters. This doesn't apply here so
I'll tab once after entering the name and be placed in the value text
box. A fed routing code is a 9-digit number so I'll type in 123456789
for purposes of this example. Tab once where you'll land on an enable in
memory protection checkbox which you can ignore. Tab again to the ok
button and press enter. Focus should again be on the Add button which I
will execute in order to add another custom string field. I'm back in
the Name text box for this custom string field where I'll type AcctNum.
I'll tab once to the value text box and type 456789. I'll tab to the ok
button and press enter to complete the addition of this second custom
string field and its value. I'll then tab to the ok button and press
enter to complete the entry of this custom string field. Focus moves to
a File attachments list view which is blank because I have none. Tab
once to move to an Attach button if you'd like to attach a file to this
entry. Tab again to the Ok button and press enter to complete the edit
of this password entry. Focus returns to the list view with the last
edited entry containing focus.
Exiting the database
More than one way exists to exit your KeePass database. I like to leave
mine running to make access easier and I'll discuss the settings to
control this later. For now, press alt + spacebar and arrow down to
minimize and press enter. You will be placed on an option to save
database changes before locking the workspace since we've just modified
our database. Press enter to save it. KeePass remembers which group
contained focus when the database was last saved and that group will
have focus the next time you open KeePass.
KeePass options
KeePass has a number of option settings that can be accessed from the
Tools, Options menu. I mainly use the default settings but will describe
a couple of suggested settings that I use. With KeePass open, press the
alt key to activate the topline menu and right arrow to Tools. When
Tools is spoken, down arrow once to open the Tools submenu and up arrow
once to land on Options and press enter. A multi-tabbed Options dialog
will open with tabs for Security, Policy, Interface, Integration, and
Advanced. Security has focus and I'm going to turn off one of its
default settings. Tab once and Lock workspace after KeePass inactivity
will be spoken which means you are in the list of Security options which
you can down arrow through. I then down arrow to the Use 'Clipboard
Viewer Ignore' clipboard format checkbox which I make sure is unchecked.
I'm the only person using my computer and I use a clipboard manager
program named Ditto which allows me to browse previous items copied to
my clipboard. I find this especially helpful for browsing items copied
from my KeePass database but if this option is left checked, KeePass
won't allow Ditto to do this. You may be happy with the default setting
not to allow this which is a more secure setting. Next, press ctrl + tab
to move to the Integration tab. Tab once and you'll be in a system wide
hotkeys section in the global auto-type text box which I don't use. Tab
again and you're on the Global auto-type - password only text box which
I have set to none. Tab again and you're on the Auto-type selected
entry which I have set to none. Tab once more and you're in the Show
KeePass window hotkey box. I have this set to ctrl + alt + shift + k so
that when I press this combination, a KeePass window will open prompting
me for my master password. KeePass always remembers the last kdbx file
on exiting the program. While this hotkey text box has focus, press the
key combination you want to set here. Continue to tab until you hear Run
KeePass at Windows startup checkbox and make sure it is checked. I think
it is a good idea to have KeePass running at all times to make accessing
your stored passwords easier when using your computer. Tab until you
hear ok and press enter to complete setting your options.
Opening KeePass
How you open KeePass could vary depending on your option settings. I
have KeePass set to run automatically at Windows startup so I'm
presented with a KeePass login window at system start where I provide my
password. I have my options set to lock KeePass whenever I minimize it
so that the master password is required in order to review the passwords
in its database. I can open a new KeePass window by pressing ctrl + alt
+ shift + k which I described earlier in the options section. To open
KeePass, you might need to execute a desktop icon on your system
depending on how you installed KeePass and your option settings.

When you open KeePass, you should be asked for your master password.
After that is typed and accepted, your database will open and focus will
be in a search box where you can type the title keyword to locate an
existing entry. After typing the search term and pressing enter, the
list of entries matching will be presented in the list view. You can tab
once to access the tree view of groups and tab again to reach the list
view of entries which match. You can then arrow up and down the list
until you find the one you want.
Accessing the passwords in the list view When focus is on the
password entry you want, you can press ctrl + c to copy its password to
the clipboard. You can easily paste it to another computer program or
website by pressing ctrl + v when on a text box seeking a password.
Also, when focus is on an entry in the KeePass list view, you can press
ctrl + b to copy that entry's user name to the clipboard. Finally, you
can press shift + F10 on the entry with focus and a context menu will
open which you can arrow up and down through to select an item of
choice. If you set up custom string fields for this entry, one of the
context menu choices is the copy field submenu and when you right arrow
on it, you will be provided a list of the custom string fields set up
and pressing enter on the custom field name will copy its value to the
clipboard. This is very handy especially if you use a clipboard manager
such as Ditto that allows you to peruse your clipboard entries for
selection and pasting.
KeePass on your mobile device
With the explosion of mobile devices for accessing content, having
access to your KeePass database on such devices is critical. This
discussion will focus on iOS since I use an iPhone but the main issue
for both iOS and Android is that you will have to know the name of your
KeePass kdbx file on your computer and make it available to your mobile
device whether you are running iOS or Android. This is why I recommended
earlier that you save your KeePass kdbx file in a Dropbox folder on your
computer which makes it much easier to share with a mobile device.
iOS
I have used two different iOS apps for accessing my KeePass database on
my iPhone. The first was Mini KeePass which unfortunately is no longer
available and the second is KeePass Touch which is free with ads or is
99 cents without ads. KeePass Touch is much better in my opinion because
it can be synced with the same kdbx database used by your computer using
Dropbox. With KeePass Touch, when you sign into the app after turning on
Touch ID, you have access to all your passwords without providing the
master password manually. When you navigate to your password field, you
can double tap on the screen to copy it to the clipboard for easy
pasting to another app. KeePass Touch also has a search feature at the
top of its main screen for locating specific entries by keyword. iOS
has other apps that work with KeePass databases but I'm unfamiliar with
their accessibility or cost. I suggest you search the App Store for
KeePass and see what comes up if KeePass Touch doesn't interest you.
Android
I have only very limited experience with Android but I did install the
KeePass Droid app which was free on a Moto X4 phone. I did nothing more
than install the app so can't offer any instructions on its use.
Dropbox download link for this overview For those wishing to
download this overview to your device in html format, you can use the
following Dropbox link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/idmnog8hql7qyev/KeePass%20Overview.htm?dl=
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Alan Lemly





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moderated Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Randy Barnett
 

You don't have to buy all the versions in between. You just pay a upgrade fee, this gets you to the current version. Then if you want a SMA you buy one and then get the next two major updates. It is very reasonable and fair.

I only have a problem with the initial purchase price of 1300 back when I first got Jaws. Now it is down to 1000.00 I think.

You need to realize with the subscription if you stop paying your Jaws stops working. But with the traditional purchase and SMA your software works forever or until it is just to outdated.

On 2/15/2020 4:44 PM, Loy wrote:

I don't think it is wrong to charge for the missing versions, Freedom Scientific has to [pay the developers to produce all these versions to get to the current version. And it is not fair for us who purchase all versions to keep up to date and you not have to. ---- If you don't want to purchase all past version to get up to date and you are in US you can just purchase the annual subscription for an up to date version, but it will turn into a demo after a year unless you renue. I like to keep up to date on SMA so if I were get to where I could not purchase current version, I have the previous versions that will still work.
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

I think it is wrong because people paid for the missing versions of Jaws simply by not enjoying all the latest features.
I don't think it is wrong for FS to not give support to someone without an up-to-date license though.
But charging for unpurchased versions is wrong.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

It is very common for software makers to offer annual maintenance plans which give people access to the latest version of their software as well as technical support. Vispero actually has never charged for technical support even for those who don’t maintain a current Jaws SMA and are on the latest version. It is typically of great benefit for software makers to try and get as many people to use their latest software since it makes support easier. If somebody still runs Jaws 17 or Jaws 18 they probably run into issues with Windows 10 which they then call Vispero support to help with, but the issues may not be Jaws issues but simply exist because these older versions of Jaws are becoming increasingly incompatible with Windows 10.

I don’t think it’s wrong at all for Jaws to charge somebody who is still using Windows 7 with Jaws version 15 more to jump to version Jaws 2020 because maybe now their computer died and they had to get a new Windows 10 computer. If they only ever bought Jaws 15 and maybe not even had an SMA to begin with, they are now jumping up 7 versions to Jaws 2020 and others who maintained their SMA helped to pay for the development of this version, they paid Vispero all these years also so Vispero can offer technical support which the Jaws 15 user also may have benefited from.

Vispero is a good sized organization with a number of software and hardware products and I really don’t get it why people continue to think that they should give away what they make for free. They have offices and employees and they incur millions in costs and yet people always compare them to NVDA which is an open-source project. I don’t ever see people complaining about the cost of Microsoft Office whether they buy the retail version or are on the Office 365 subscription nor do I see people comparing to projects such as LibreOffice, Polaris Office or FreeOffice.

I think now that in the US people can get up to speed with the latest version of Jaws for $90 a year with the subscription model that this is a very fantastic offer by Vispero, yes, it may cost $2.50 a month more than maintaining your SMA at $60 a year, but having access to what I call still the best screenreader in the world if you need a screenreader for more then sending an occasional email and browsing the web for $7.50 a month is affordable for pretty much everybody. Many of us pay more for our monthly music or Netflix subscription or other things like a couple of coffees from Starbucks or your favourite local gourmet coffee shop etc. If I really had to choose between having a Jaws subscription or a Apple Music or Spotify subscription because I can only afford one or the other I’d rather listen to free music and have access to Jaws or I’ll skip one or two other extras and if that is still beyond me then there is always NVDA which, by the way, would also no longer be around if they didn’t get some donations. I am sure those who complain about the $5 a month to maintain a Jaws SMA or the $7.50 for the subscription are also not people who donate anything to NV Access, but I’m sure others do because they like NVDA and want to help to offset the costs for servers and such so that the project can continue.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

That may indeed be correct, but it is not fair if true.

If someone decides to live without the latest and greatest for a year, they should be able to get a new jaws for the same price as a new user.

So if they changed their name and address, they can get it for less?

That's wrong.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:14 AM

Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

 

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks

moderated Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

Loy
 


There has been no announcement about discontinuing SMA's.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

No problem.  I’m running the latest version of JAWS 20. I believe I’m on my last update though.  So, I will have to renew soon, if I can.  I’m wondering if they will renew anything after Sept. of this year.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 16, 2020 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

Hello David:

 

Remember, before you can purchase an SMA for the next 2 years, you first need to pay the upgrade fee, from the version you are currently using, to the latest version.

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 9:20 PM

Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

Well, using that logic, you receive an email from JAWS every year reminding you that your SMA is expiring, or a unexpected charge on your credit card every year.  As apposed to one charge every 2 years that is cheaper in the long run. Of course if you don’t have to pay for it, the cost is irrelevant. Swing for the fences and you may hit a home run out of the park.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: February 14, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

What would be the better of the choices with not what is paid but what is received?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

I’m not sure so don’t quote me on this.  I think in the long run it is cheaper to buy 2 updates for JAWS, rather then paying $90 per year. I think the cost for 2 updates is $160.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 14, 2020 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

That depends on how far behind you are.

If you are on Jaws 2019 and just didn’t have an SMA to upgrade to Jaws 2020 you should be able to buy a new SMA at whatever the price is and it will give you Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 this fall.

If you are still on Jaws 2018 you should be able to buy a new SMA and this would entitle you to upgrade to Jaws 2019 and Jaws 2020, of course there is no need to actually install Jaws 2019, you would go straight to Jaws 2020, but at that point your SMA is once again used up and if you want Jaws 2021 this fall you would need to buy another SMA either right away or at the latest by October.

If you are on anything prior to Jaws 2018 like Jaws 18 or even 17, you would have to immediately buy 2 SMA’s to even get Jaws 2020.

Alternatively, if you live in the US you can switch to the Jaws subscription model which is I believe $90 a year, this would entitle you to upgrade right away to Jaws 2020 no matter what version you are on, then you continue to pay $90 each year and this will always entitle you to install and use the latest update.

 

Having said all this I would highly recommend you speak to Vispero directly at 1-727-803-8600, let them look up your account via the Jaws serial number you have and ask what your options are.

They do also have a toll free number, but I don’t currently have it handy.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blind Gamer
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question regarding jaws SMA

 

Hi I have one question
If we didn't renew jaws sma then how much price for upgrade
Thanks