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moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Leo
 

Hi, I have stated the same, n v d a does not have this problem.


Best,
   Leo
On 3/21/2020 10:53 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

The problem with adjusting the rate is a JAWS problem. It works fine with Narrator.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Not that I'm discouraging anyone from submitting feedback to Microsoft on this feature, as you absolutely should, but there are also other options now that Edge is Chromium-based and you can use extensions from the Chrome Web Store.

One extension I used routinely with my blind clients is called Read Aloud.  It allows you to assign (or reassign) shortcut keys for many of its functions when it's active and I just tested voice speed with the default voice (and there are multiple options).  It can read at "blind screen-reader user speed" which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Dean,

          No surprise there, as there have been many such screen-reader specific quirks in interacting with specific things over the time I've "been in this biz."

          I can and do still highly recommend the Read Aloud extension, though.  It's aimed squarely at the screen-reader using demographic and works beautifully.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Dean Martineau
 

The problem with adjusting the rate is a JAWS problem. It works fine with Narrator.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Not that I'm discouraging anyone from submitting feedback to Microsoft on this feature, as you absolutely should, but there are also other options now that Edge is Chromium-based and you can use extensions from the Chrome Web Store.

One extension I used routinely with my blind clients is called Read Aloud.  It allows you to assign (or reassign) shortcut keys for many of its functions when it's active and I just tested voice speed with the default voice (and there are multiple options).  It can read at "blind screen-reader user speed" which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Not that I'm discouraging anyone from submitting feedback to Microsoft on this feature, as you absolutely should, but there are also other options now that Edge is Chromium-based and you can use extensions from the Chrome Web Store.

One extension I used routinely with my blind clients is called Read Aloud.  It allows you to assign (or reassign) shortcut keys for many of its functions when it's active and I just tested voice speed with the default voice (and there are multiple options).  It can read at "blind screen-reader user speed" which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

That does not work for me and I have also not found a way to change it except that at first I could change it to the minimum (0.5) t the maximum (2) by using Home and End, but I couldn't figure out how to get it back to 1 or 1.5.
Anybody who cares about this should submit Feedback to the Microsoft Edge team via the Help and Feedback option in the Settings menu and ask them to make this accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

is this found in the file menu as read aloud? if so, there is a voice options button. after pressing spacebar, there is a speed slider.
to change it, I pressed alt+right arrow and then right arrow to hear what it changed to. continuing to press alt+right arrow increased the speed from 0.5 (it's default) to 0.75, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, and finally 2. it doesn't seem to go higher than 2. clearly Microsoft needs to do some improvement with adjusting the speed slider to make it more screen reader friendly. I don't think pressing alt+right arrow is a standard way of increasing a slider.

if anyone knows more, please do tell.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Kingsbury [mailto:davidkingsbury77@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Subject: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View Hi all,

The new Edge has a very nice feature called Immersive Reader that strips out clutter on busy web pages for a cleaner read. There is a read aloud button that reads text out loud with various voices, and this totally clears out the clutter. Note that this is not a screen reader voice, but a voice that everybody can hear, and the voice quality is good. Only problem is that it reads at a "sighted person" speed, in other words, painfully slow. While there is a left/right slider for adjusting the voice rate, it does not seem accessible. Does anybody know if there is a shortcut key that could be used to adjust this voice rate?

Thanks,

David

moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:23 AM, Sandra Streeter wrote:
Ctrl-e
That only throws you into the search box if you're in File Explorer, which is not the situation being described.

There are several possible options here.  My preferred one, if you tend to search by file name and file name alone, is to use the Everything Search by voidtools rather than Windows Search.  It's both easier and faster and entirely accessible.

If you wish to limit the native Windows Search strictly to files with a given extension, you can use the ext: operator, so hitting the Windows Key, entering "lion* ext:docx", without the quotes, would return only MS-Word files whose name begins with lion or what contain lion in the file content.  There are scads of different operators, and they can be combined.  See:
https://www.howtogeek.com/school/learning-windows-search/lesson5/
or https://thegeekpage.com/windows-10-advance-search-tricks-cheatsheet/
or any number of other tutorials you can find via web search.  I do not know whether the tables shown in the second of the above tutorials are actual tables or screen shots, but there are many resources regarding the "prefix operators" as I'll call them that limit the scope of the search.  I just found this Microsoft Query Syntax page that gets into the prefix operators you can use.

But, if searching by file name, I prefer Everything Search.  I only use Windows Search when I can't recall part of the file name but can somehow remember something distinctive about the file content.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Mario
 

if you know the folder that contains the file that will produce a match for the contents you are searching for, navigate to and open that folder, shift+tab to a search field, and past or type the contents you are looking for and press enter. tab once to the results that will show the most likely matches.

I don't know if there is a more global way.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 11:21 AM
Subject: Searching my computer contents
Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Mario
 

Sandra, please expand on when exactly control+e is pressed and any info you can add to answer Andrew's question mor thoroughly.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sandra Streeter [mailto:sandrastreeter381@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 11:25 AM
Subject: Searching my computer contents
Ctrl-e

Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind -

(Emily Dickinson)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Searching my computer contents

Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Sandra Streeter
 

Ctrl-e

Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind -

(Emily Dickinson)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Searching my computer contents

Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Mario
 

is this found in the file menu as read aloud? if so, there is a voice options button. after pressing spacebar, there is a speed slider.
to change it, I pressed alt+right arrow and then right arrow to hear what it changed to. continuing to press alt+right arrow increased the speed from 0.5 (it's default) to 0.75, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, and finally 2. it doesn't seem to go higher than 2. clearly Microsoft needs to do some improvement with adjusting the speed slider to make it more screen reader friendly. I don't think pressing alt+right arrow is a standard way of increasing a slider.

if anyone knows more, please do tell.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Kingsbury [mailto:davidkingsbury77@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Subject: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View
Hi all,

The new Edge has a very nice feature called Immersive Reader that strips
out clutter on busy web pages for a cleaner read. There is a read aloud
button that reads text out loud with various voices, and this totally
clears out the clutter. Note that this is not a screen reader voice, but
a voice that everybody can hear, and the voice quality is good. Only
problem is that it reads at a “sighted person” speed, in other words,
painfully slow. While there is a left/right slider for adjusting the
voice rate, it does not seem accessible. Does anybody know if there is a
shortcut key that could be used to adjust this voice rate?

Thanks,

David

moderated Searching my computer contents

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Leo
 

Hi David,

this is one of the reasons why edge chromium has become my favorite browser. Sadly, some shortcuts keys or at least a feature to customize shortcut keys needs to be added. Those voices are quite amazing, I'm not an English native speaker, so I can tell you that the English voices are the most clear synthetic voices I've heard from my prospective as a language learner of course. As for the left right slider, This is a serious issue that latest version of jaws 2020 haven't been able to fix. This is important. It's a screen reader issue and not a browser issue. How do I know? Very simple, you can access this slider with no problems using n v d a.


Best,
   Leo
On 3/21/2020 8:38 AM, David Kingsbury wrote:

Hi all,

 

The new Edge has a very nice feature called Immersive Reader that strips out clutter on busy web pages for a cleaner read. There is a read aloud button that reads text out loud with various voices, and this totally clears out the clutter. Note that this is not a screen reader voice, but a voice that everybody can hear, and the voice quality is good. Only problem is that it reads at a “sighted person” speed, in other words, painfully slow. While there is a left/right slider for adjusting the voice rate, it does not seem accessible. Does anybody know if there is a shortcut key that could be used to adjust this voice rate?

Thanks,

David

 

 

moderated New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

The new Edge has a very nice feature called Immersive Reader that strips out clutter on busy web pages for a cleaner read. There is a read aloud button that reads text out loud with various voices, and this totally clears out the clutter. Note that this is not a screen reader voice, but a voice that everybody can hear, and the voice quality is good. Only problem is that it reads at a “sighted person” speed, in other words, painfully slow. While there is a left/right slider for adjusting the voice rate, it does not seem accessible. Does anybody know if there is a shortcut key that could be used to adjust this voice rate?

Thanks,

David

 

 

moderated Re: restarting JAWS in default user mode

Mike B
 

Hi Martin,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.  There's another way to run in the default mode, by turning off all modified scripts in Manage Application settings.  This is where you check to see which scripts are currently being used / run.
 Try the following:
1. Open your Jaws context menu, Insert + J.
Note:  The keystroke to Manage Applications settings is, Insert + J, then press the letter, O, then press the letter, M.

2. Press enter on options.
 
3. up / down arrow to, Manage Application settings, press enter.
 
4. Tab to, the, Disable All button, press the spacebar, then tab to, Okay, and press enter.  You can disable them individually as well to eliminate scripts that you suspect might be giving you problems.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: restarting JAWS in default user mode

Mike,

I know of the ins-space and z-command and saw it in the message, but
this is temporary. If you start jaws again, it will use your profile.
The solution I gave was to reset  your profile.

Marten


On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 16:34:46 -0700 "Mike B" <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> As Dean posted, but it was below Alison's message.  Press, Insert + spacebar
> , then press the letter, Z, to run Jaws with its default settings, this is a
> toggle, so invoke the keystroke again to go back to your settings.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
> I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone
> can buy toilet paper!
> But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is
> temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marten Post Uiterweer
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: restarting JAWS in default user mode
>
>
> Dean, Alison,
>
> Don's know if there is an official way to do this, but this will work:
> Unload Jaws first.
>
> Go to your profile by pressing win+r and type:
> shell:appdata
>
> You will find here a freedomscientific folder.
> Open this folder and go to the Jaws folder.
> Here you will see foolders for the different jaws versions installed on
> this computer. For example:
> 2019 or 2020.
> Rename the folder of the jaws version you use.
>
> Next time you start jaws a fresh profile is created.
>
> Regards, Marten
>
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:53:12 -0400 "Dean Martineau" <topdot@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 7:41 AM
> > To: main@jfw.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: zoom
> >
> >
> >
> > Recently I have lost speech on several occasions whilst typing. My husband
> > has so far always been able to recover speech. This time we are having a
> > lot of problems and cannot get speech to work properly again. Is it
> > possible to unload jaws  and then reload it with jaws  defaults? Or is
> > there another way to tackle this? I want to upgrade to jaws  20, but don't
> > think I should do this until I have resolve my current problem.
> >
> > Sentr from my iPhone by Alison may
> >
> > 0777 315 8181
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To switch JAWS to run the default settings, press Insert_Space, z.  Do it
> > again to switch to your personal settings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Upgrading to JAWS 2020 might just solve your problem. Fixing a problem in
> > an older version of JAWS doesn't affect the newer version, so that is a
> > possible fix.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 20 Mar 2020, at 3:21 am, Judy Redlich <jredlichspeaks@...> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > I really like using zoom.  We use it for meetings all the time. I use it
> > with jaws on my laptop.  All without others  hearing the meeting, you can
> > take notes in word or in a text file, and hear all your jaws commands.  If
> > you are the organizer, you even hear the chat messages.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
> > via Groups.Io
> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:29 PM
> > To: main@jfw.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: zoom
> >
> >
> >
> > I haven't used the Zoom platform with JAWS yet, but I find the iPhone app
> > for Zoom really easy to use thus far, as long as you have an earpiece with
> > microphone so that people don't hear voicover talking.  If I were doing a
> > class with Zoom, I might run Zoom from my phone, leaving my laptop open
> > for taking notes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  <main@jfw.groups.io
> > <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:19 AM
> > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: zoom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I copied the info and pasted it after the link to the Zoom support page on
> > hotkeys:
> >
> >
> > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205683899-Hot-Keys-and-Keyboard-Shortcuts-for-Zoom?mobile_site=true
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_205683899-2DHot-2DKeys-2Dand-2DKeyboard-2DShortcuts-2Dfor-2DZoom-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue&d=DwMGaQ&c=Y1KkN7JyAPjrAJTUCirS0fy9vQY8xn4_Oh4EEEpbXx4&r=-1nxI1tr9hKnIWNyLOCPlqI9Rh0Aj118fOCkSudZWTI&m=2cfEY6o-7oQu07l5etYxszXC1Gi6OOnVmnlPBEhWiTY&s=MCCb9-ha_8f9x4razIe3eW7_IbpzPDgDsQa0gMbuqG4&e=>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_205683899-2DHot-2DKeys-2Dand-2DKeyboard-2DShortcuts-2Dfor-2DZoom-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue-23collapsePC&d=DwMGaQ&c=Y1KkN7JyAPjrAJTUCirS0fy9vQY8xn4_Oh4EEEpbXx4&r=-1nxI1tr9hKnIWNyLOCPlqI9Rh0Aj118fOCkSudZWTI&m=2cfEY6o-7oQu07l5etYxszXC1Gi6OOnVmnlPBEhWiTY&s=34tujM4vpDXfBu7Hm3WnxomR6L0k6cIeWr6e0Sgut2w&e=>
> > Windows
> >
> >
> > You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.
> >
> > 1.       Log in to your Zoom desktop client.
> >
> > 2.       Click your profile picture then click Settings.
> >
> >
> > 3.       Click Keyboard Shortcuts.
> >
> >
> > 4.       The keyboard shortcuts will appear.
> >
> >
> > Editing Shortcuts
> >
> >
> > You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the
> > shortcut key that you would like to use.
> >
> > Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
> > work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
> > the option next to the shortcut.
> >
> >
> > Available Keyboard Shortcuts
> >
> >
> > *         F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.
> >
> > *         Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls
> >
> > *         PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view
> >
> > *         PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view
> >
> > *         Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar
> > in Accessibility Settings
> >
> > *         Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting
> >
> > *         Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting
> >
> > *         Alt+F4: Close the current window
> >
> > *         Alt+V: Start/Stop Video
> >
> > *         Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio
> >
> > *         Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the
> > meeting host only
> >
> > *         Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note:
> > Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus
> >
> > *         Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work
> > when meeting control toolbar has focus
> >
> > *         Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when
> > meeting control toolbar has focus
> >
> > *         Alt+R: Start/stop local recording
> >
> > *         Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording
> >
> > *         Alt+P: Pause or resume recording
> >
> > *         Alt+N: Switch camera
> >
> > *         Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen
> >
> > *         Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel
> >
> > *         Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel
> >
> > *         Alt+I: Open Invite window
> >
> > *         Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand
> >
> > *         Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control
> >
> > *         Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control
> >
> > *         Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name
> >
> > *         Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls
> >
> > *         Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot
> >
> > *         Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L
> >
> > *         Ctrl+W: Close current chat session
> >
> > *         Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat
> >
> > *         Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat
> >
> > *         Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone
> >
> > *         Ctrl+F: Search
> >
> > *         Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)
> >
> > *         Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > "There's a nap for that."
> >
> > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> >
> > "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Judy <bunchkinbear@...
> > <mailto:bunchkinbear@...> > wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Hi, any tips or pointers on using Zoom would be greatly appreciated. I was
> > able to set up an account, but had some problems with settings and
> > muting/unmuting etc. Need to learn this fast as a class I'm in is going
> > online for discussions. Using Jaws 2019 and windows 10. Thanks in advance.
> > Judy & Libby
> >
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moderated Re: restarting JAWS in default user mode

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Mike,

I know of the ins-space and z-command and saw it in the message, but
this is temporary. If you start jaws again, it will use your profile.
The solution I gave was to reset your profile.

Marten

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 16:34:46 -0700 "Mike B" <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Martin,

As Dean posted, but it was below Alison's message. Press, Insert + spacebar
, then press the letter, Z, to run Jaws with its default settings, this is a
toggle, so invoke the keystroke again to go back to your settings.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone
can buy toilet paper!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Marten Post Uiterweer
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: restarting JAWS in default user mode


Dean, Alison,

Don's know if there is an official way to do this, but this will work:
Unload Jaws first.

Go to your profile by pressing win+r and type:
shell:appdata

You will find here a freedomscientific folder.
Open this folder and go to the Jaws folder.
Here you will see foolders for the different jaws versions installed on
this computer. For example:
2019 or 2020.
Rename the folder of the jaws version you use.

Next time you start jaws a fresh profile is created.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 11:53:12 -0400 "Dean Martineau" <topdot@...>
wrote:





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom



Recently I have lost speech on several occasions whilst typing. My husband
has so far always been able to recover speech. This time we are having a
lot of problems and cannot get speech to work properly again. Is it
possible to unload jaws and then reload it with jaws defaults? Or is
there another way to tackle this? I want to upgrade to jaws 20, but don't
think I should do this until I have resolve my current problem.

Sentr from my iPhone by Alison may

0777 315 8181





To switch JAWS to run the default settings, press Insert_Space, z. Do it
again to switch to your personal settings.



Upgrading to JAWS 2020 might just solve your problem. Fixing a problem in
an older version of JAWS doesn't affect the newer version, so that is a
possible fix.







On 20 Mar 2020, at 3:21 am, Judy Redlich <jredlichspeaks@...> wrote:

?

I really like using zoom. We use it for meetings all the time. I use it
with jaws on my laptop. All without others hearing the meeting, you can
take notes in word or in a text file, and hear all your jaws commands. If
you are the organizer, you even hear the chat messages.

Judy

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom



I haven't used the Zoom platform with JAWS yet, but I find the iPhone app
for Zoom really easy to use thus far, as long as you have an earpiece with
microphone so that people don't hear voicover talking. If I were doing a
class with Zoom, I might run Zoom from my phone, leaving my laptop open
for taking notes.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: zoom




I copied the info and pasted it after the link to the Zoom support page on
hotkeys:


https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205683899-Hot-Keys-and-Keyboard-Shortcuts-for-Zoom?mobile_site=true
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<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.zoom.us_hc_en-2Dus_articles_205683899-2DHot-2DKeys-2Dand-2DKeyboard-2DShortcuts-2Dfor-2DZoom-3Fmobile-5Fsite-3Dtrue-23collapsePC&d=DwMGaQ&c=Y1KkN7JyAPjrAJTUCirS0fy9vQY8xn4_Oh4EEEpbXx4&r=-1nxI1tr9hKnIWNyLOCPlqI9Rh0Aj118fOCkSudZWTI&m=2cfEY6o-7oQu07l5etYxszXC1Gi6OOnVmnlPBEhWiTY&s=34tujM4vpDXfBu7Hm3WnxomR6L0k6cIeWr6e0Sgut2w&e=>
Windows


You can view and edit keyboard shortcuts in your Accessibility settings.

1. Log in to your Zoom desktop client.

2. Click your profile picture then click Settings.


3. Click Keyboard Shortcuts.


4. The keyboard shortcuts will appear.


Editing Shortcuts


You can edit a shortcut by clicking on the shortcut and then pressing the
shortcut key that you would like to use.

Some of the shortcuts can be used as global shortcuts, meaning they will
work even when Zoom is not in focus. To enable a shortcut globally, check
the option next to the shortcut.


Available Keyboard Shortcuts


* F6: Navigate among Zoom popup windows.

* Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls

* PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view

* PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view

* Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting control toolbar
in Accessibility Settings

* Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting

* Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting

* Alt+F4: Close the current window

* Alt+V: Start/Stop Video

* Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio

* Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host Note: For the
meeting host only

* Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share Note:
Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus

* Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share Note: Will only work
when meeting control toolbar has focus

* Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share Note: Will only work when
meeting control toolbar has focus

* Alt+R: Start/stop local recording

* Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording

* Alt+P: Pause or resume recording

* Alt+N: Switch camera

* Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen

* Alt+H: Display/hide In-Meeting Chat panel

* Alt+U:Display/hide Participants panel

* Alt+I: Open Invite window

* Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand

* Alt+Shift+R: Gain Remote Control

* Alt+Shift+G: Stop Remote Control

* Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name

* Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/Hide floating meeting controls

* Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot

* Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L

* Ctrl+W: Close current chat session

* Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat

* Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat

* Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone

* Ctrl+F: Search

* Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)

* Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)







Richard

"There's a nap for that."

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

"





On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Judy <bunchkinbear@...
<mailto:bunchkinbear@...> > wrote:

?

Hi, any tips or pointers on using Zoom would be greatly appreciated. I was
able to set up an account, but had some problems with settings and
muting/unmuting etc. Need to learn this fast as a class I'm in is going
online for discussions. Using Jaws 2019 and windows 10. Thanks in advance.
Judy & Libby

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moderated Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

Abraham Sweiss
 

You will need to register all the devices where the Kindle reader is installed with your Amazon account. Once that is done the books should be automatically downloaded to those devices. There should be instructions on Amazon.com and how to register these devices.

Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:17 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos <pantonop2856@...> wrote:

Hi Gezim/all,

If installed, then just go to your download link and press it for the book to download. Then find the kindle icon on your desktop or whatever and press it. You should ideally land on your title, which you can press on. Tabbing once, you will get to the table of contents from where you can select the part, chapter you need. Once you get more books, these will appear and I have found that right-arrowing is more handy then down-arrowing if you have many book, as I do have.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

I installed it both on my iPhone and PC, but I don’t know how to read books at any.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

If you have a smart phone, the Kindle app works fine with either Talkback on Android, or VoiceOver on an iPhone.

Or, search for Accessible Kindle for PC, and install it.

You will need to login with your Amazon account, or create one.

Sighted assistance is helpful for that login screen, as it does not read right with JAWS.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi list,

 

Someone sent me some Kindle books, but I can’t open them, probably because Kindle is not installed on my PC. I would appreciate if you could instruct me ho to download  and how to use it with JAWS 19.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

moderated Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Gezim/all,

If installed, then just go to your download link and press it for the book to download. Then find the kindle icon on your desktop or whatever and press it. You should ideally land on your title, which you can press on. Tabbing once, you will get to the table of contents from where you can select the part, chapter you need. Once you get more books, these will appear and I have found that right-arrowing is more handy then down-arrowing if you have many book, as I do have.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

I installed it both on my iPhone and PC, but I don’t know how to read books at any.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

If you have a smart phone, the Kindle app works fine with either Talkback on Android, or VoiceOver on an iPhone.

Or, search for Accessible Kindle for PC, and install it.

You will need to login with your Amazon account, or create one.

Sighted assistance is helpful for that login screen, as it does not read right with JAWS.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi list,

 

Someone sent me some Kindle books, but I can’t open them, probably because Kindle is not installed on my PC. I would appreciate if you could instruct me ho to download  and how to use it with JAWS 19.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

moderated Re: Issues with "I'm not a robot"

George Brechmann
 

Hello,

I had the same problem with a web site and I found that if I placed the curser on the element and then used the left mouse key twice, it checked the box and then you could arrow down to the submit button and hit enter.  I hope that this helps.

George

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 6:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Issues with "I'm not a robot"

 

Some websites won’t let the checkbox be checked until you enter the text they want. My challenge: even if I use the audible and hear the letters and/or numbers, I can’t always get them typed into the place where they should go.

 

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 6:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Issues with "I'm not a robot"

 

Hello,

 

I’m having trouble with trying to communicate with a business via email from their web site.  When it says “I’m not a robot checkbox not checked it will not allow me to check that to let them know I’m not a robot.  I’ve tried pressing the space bar and I’ve tried pressing enter to no avail.  Is there another way to get that checked to say “I’m not a robot checkbox checked?

 

Thank you for any help.

 

Laura

 

 

moderated Re: Census survey

Judy
 

That is interesting as to my knowledge IE 11 was the last update, then going to Edge. They are behind the times for sure. Judy

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 2:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Census survey

 

Hello:

Has anyone completed the 2020 census on line at my2020census.gov?

At the top, it asks screen reader users to use the latest version of Internet Explorer and JAWS.  I wonder how secure IE is now.

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks,

 

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moderated Re: Outlook 2010&Spell Check

Pramit
 

Hi Jim,

The issue might be because of the older version of Windows that you are using or it might be possible
 that you might be caused by the less RAM in the system 4GB or less.

Try updating to the latest version of Windows that is Windows 10 and increase the RAM to either 8 GB or more if your system supports it, and there won't be any lag.

There might be some incompatibility because of the old version of Windows old version.

Hope this helps

Pramit

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:29 AM Jim L <jimscave@...> wrote:

Heya Folks,

 

For ages now on previous versions of Jaws as well as this latest version have always had huge problems with lagging during and using of the Microsoft Outlook 2010 Spell checker, there’s never been a fix for this is it just me with this issue or is there others out there too? Am running Windows 7, 64bit Home edition.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim