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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Ann Byrne
 

And you realize that you can cheat ... and I can't (LOL). And although I'm a pretty good typist, I make mistakes that I want to know I made.

At 12:33 PM 2/17/2021, you wrote:
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 01:28 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
You can set JAWS to speak only three repeated characters

-Which is great, if what's being used is a repeated character set.Believe it or not, I'm not questioning your choice, as what any given one of us wants/likes will differ. I'm just pointing out that how this is actually implemented "under the hood" matters as far as what's exposed to the screen reader to read.I also have absolute trust that when a given feature is turned on, and I'm using it, and all evidence is that it's working, that it is indeed working. There are many times that I have no desire to have anything announced, because it's auditory clutter. It's just a difference of desired behavior.--

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moderated QRead, PDF's and Jaws

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
I recently installed QRead again, set it as my default PDF reader but, for whatever reason it's not opening PDF files and reading them for me.  Would someone please give me a hard kick in the right direction to get Jaws and QRead working together to read my PDF files?  I'm sure it's a setting I'm missing but, which one it is I'm not sure.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated JAWS2021 February Update build J2021.2102.34 Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

 Hi all,
 
Below is the February update for J2021 build 2102.34 direct download link + what's new.
 
32 & 64 bit download link:
 
 
What's new:
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2102.34 (February 2021)
The following is a list of improvements made between the January 2021 release and the February 2021 update.
 
Virtual Cursor Support Now Available in Windows 10 Universal Apps
The Virtual PC Cursor, used to read web pages, PDF documents, and emails in JAWS and Fusion, has been extended to work in Windows universal applications.
Universal apps are usually obtained from the Microsoft Store, however some apps, such as Weather or the Calculator, are pre-installed as part of Windows.
Once the Virtual Cursor is enabled in a universal app, it greatly improves the reading experience by allowing you to:
list of 4 items
• Use the ARROW  keys to navigate the app's contents just like a web page.
• Use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly move to specific elements like Regions, Headings, lists, tables, form fields, and more.
• Display a list of links ( INSERT+F7 ), headings ( INSERT+F6 ), and form controls ( INSERT+F5 ).
• Use Forms Mode to type text or interact with other controls.
list end
Currently, Weather is the only app where the Virtual Cursor is on by default. As you use other universal apps, press INSERT+Z to manually activate the
Virtual Cursor and try navigating to see if you notice any improvements with how JAWS reads.
Pressing INSERT+Z is used to toggle the Virtual Cursor in HTML applications. However, if focus is in a universal app, pressing INSERT+Z results in JAWS
announcing that the Virtual Cursor is toggled for UWP (Universal Windows Platform) apps and the UWP virtual cursor is temporarily toggled for the current
UWP app. If you decide you want the UWP Virtual Cursor enabled by default for a particular app, open Settings Center (INSERT+6 on the number row) from
the app and select the Enable Virtual Cursor for Windows Universal Apps check box.
Note: While the Virtual Cursor may greatly improve the experience when using certain universal apps, there will be many of these apps where there is really
no need for the Virtual Cursor. A great example where users will not need to use the Virtual Cursor is the Windows Calculator as it works well using the
default cursor and you can easily navigate using the TAB Key and ARROW keys to find all controls. The Calculator doesn’t have static text like in the Weather
app that you would need to read.
Other Changes
list of 16 items
• When focused in a Teams chat, pressing INSERT+T  now indicates the current status of the other participant along with the window title.
• If focused on a link and you press INSERT+F1  for screen-sensitive help, the link address is displayed at the top of the help window. This enables you
to quickly verify the source of a link in an email message or on a web page if there is concern that it could be a phishing link.
• You can now type text from a braille display into a Microsoft Teams chat using contracted braille input.
• Added a new JAWS Dictionary entry for "QA."
• In Google Docs, resolved an issue where an extra "blank" announcement was heard when reading by word.
• Resolved reported issues that occurred when trying to re-authenticate credentials for an online Microsoft account. After typing the first character,
JAWS exited Forms Mode and you were unable to complete the process with JAWS running.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not automatically reading the state of check boxes in the Grammar Settings dialog box of the Proofing options
for Word.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected when attempting to search for special characters in Word, such as a manual page break.
 
• If a graphic in a Word document is selected and the document contains multiple graphics, when the TAB  key is used to move through the different graphics,
JAWS now announces the kind of image and its text alignment. Additionally, the type of image is indicated when reading the current line, and reading by
word or character indicates the alignment and dimensions of the image. If you prefer not to hear the alignment and dimensions of graphics, open Quick Settings
( INSERT+V ) and clear the Include Graphical Dimensions  and Include Graphic Alignment Description  check boxes.
• Addressed issues with JAWS sometimes double speaking in Microsoft Office when toggling bold, italics, or underline.
• Resolved reported issues of Volume fluctuating with JAWS and Fusion while navigating Word documents using the Proof Reading Scheme. Moving quickly through
the document with the ARROW  keys was much worse than navigating slowly and letting it finish reading.
• Resolved a PowerPoint issue related to opening a slide show using something referred to as “Browsed by an individual (window)” rather than the expected,
“Presented by Speaker (full screen). Microsoft has now added a change to UIA in PowerPoint versions greater than 16.0.13517 which allows JAWS to read the
slide show in either case.
• When editing Alt text for graphics in PowerPoint using a braille display, resolved a reported issue where cursor routing was not working as expected.
 
• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards  option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to another
sound device.
• For users experiencing issues with JAWS and Fusion not reading as expected in the Windows 10 Start Menu, as well as in Universal apps including Weather
or Calculator, open JAWS Settings Center ( INSERT+6 ), press CTRL+SHIFT+D  to load the Default File, search for "start", and select the Start menu: Access-Out-of-Process
 check box.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS language detection on web pages was not working as expected for Mandarin text, even if the page used the correct
language tags and a Mandarin Vocalizer Expressive voice was installed. Note that this change only affects the default Vocalizer Expressive voice profile
for each language. Refer to this
Technical Support Notice
 for details on applying this change to any custom voice profiles.
list end

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated form fillable PDF files

ann
 

HI folks,

I normally use QRead for PDF files. But that is just a reader, and i have a PDF that is form fillable. Using the latest version of Jaws with Windows10, what is the best program to open the form fillable PDF files?

Thanks,
~Ann


moderated Re: Research it

Nermin
 

Hi, Brian,


while I think you're right when it comes to the function being updated, I also think that it is not completely useless. Some people find it daunting to deal with all the different interfaces and just want a uniform way of working with research utilities. The resulting window is quite comvenient and offers all the necessary info condensed into one place.

Generally speaking, if you're tech savvy enough, you should of course use the internet tools that are available out there, since you may come across someone who may not be using JAWS at all.


Regards,

Nermin


moderated Re: versions of ms office.

 

I believe Microsoft has now backed off of Office 2019 being the last free standing installable version.  I seem to remember Joseph Lee posting something about the decision having been made that one more like this will be released, though.  There are also multiple articles about this in the tech press.

A New Version of Microsoft Office Without a Subscription ...

New version of Microsoft Office won't require you to pay ...

Microsoft is releasing a non-subscription Office suite in 2021

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moderated Re: versions of ms office.

Shirley Tracy
 

I bought Office 2019 from MS via a phone call. Only it doesn’t include Outlook, which was on your list of what you use. I’m told Office 19 is the last app you can pay upfront with no expiration date on it. They explained that All higher versions have either a monthly fee or a yearly fee. I guess that tells you how long it has been since I purchased my Office 2016.  

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: versions of ms office.

 

Hi to you all,

 

This is probably not for here, but i thought i would ask anyway.

I am at home, so a basic version of office does me fine.

I only use outlook for emails, word for basic documents and excel for basic spreadsheets.

I have been using office 2007, and it does me just fine.

However, as expected, eventually, jaws is having trouble with this because it is so old.

Does anyone know where i could get maybe office 2010 2013 etc?

I don’t need the latest office 365 or anything like that.

I cannot find anywhere on the ms web site that might sell it either, as they just want you to buy the latest.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Patrick

 

 

Sent from my gmail account.

 

 


moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 01:31 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
But you don't know.
-
Well, I'd argue that.

If you toggle on a feature for leader, and the feature is toggled on, the leader is there.

It's no different than using a list in word, once you've turned on a list, and I'll use a bulleted list as the example, if I'm told I'm in that list when working I don't need the screen reader to tell me, for every item, what bullet shape is being used after I've initially chosen or set them.  They're just there, and I know they're there because I am using the list feature.

If there were no way of knowing whether a feature had been activated or not, then you have no idea what's there.  But when a feature that has a defined behavior is activated, and you're using it, the whole idea is so that you don't have to double check what it automates - it's just there.  And, again, what you stated at the outset about alignment allows you to infer that it's there, as if it weren't, the page numbers would certainly not align, whether a leader were in use or not.  The table of contents feature reliably handles formatting for the various sections per the settings you've chosen.
 
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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Mike B.
 


Hi Robin,
 
You can change your speech and sound scheme on the fly to get formatting.  Press, Jaws key, Alt + S, to open the schemes list.  Note: Take notice of which scheme is highlighted so you can return to it.
up / down arrow to the scheme you want and press enter to switch.  You might have to experiment with the schemes to see which one will do what you want but, you have several choices.  You can even modify the schemes if necessary to get exactly what you want.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

I see your point Ann, but I can also appreciate that I don’t' want to hear that extra verbiage when arrowing through the contents list. I wonder if there is a toggler of some keystroke that would list the formatting.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Thanks for this.  I really believe that JAWS used to read the leader ... probably in Word 2002.  shows how long it has been since I tried this.
With too little vision to check for dots, I would stinkin' like to be told if they are there.
At 07:45 PM 2/16/2021, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I just did a table of content earlier using that first button on the
>References ribbon.  I picked the first automatic option in the list.  I
>have enough vision to see that the leading periods are there, even
>though JAWS is not reading them.  Here is my speech history as I read
>down a portion of this table of contents:
>
>Table of contents linkend Table of contents Internship Seekers 1 Table
>of contents linkSara Young 1 Table of contents linkLinda  Brandt 1
>Table of contents linkAmanda Thomas 1 Table of contents linkFull-time
>position seekers 2 Table of contents
>
>Not sure if your table of contents is the same formatting, but hoepufly
>this helps. I did nothing to customize it from that first option on the
>Table of Contents creation button.
>
>Robin
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:22 PM
>To: main@jfw.groups.io
>Subject: Showing the leader in a table of contents
>
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>In word 2016 I have set tab stops for a table of
>contents--6 inches, right aligned, .... as the leader.  When I fill in
>information the titles align correctly, the page numbers align, but
>there are no little dot dot dots between the title and the beautifully
>aligned page number.  Does JAWS just not display the leader?  do I need
>to do something funky with the Word 2016 settings besides selecting the
>leader?
>
>Thx,
>
>Ann
>
>
>
>
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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

 

That should have been, "something announced," not, "anything."  I can't imagine not wanting to hear anything at all; it kinda defeats the purpose of a screen reader!
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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 01:28 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
You can set JAWS to speak only three repeated characters
-
Which is great, if what's being used is a repeated character set.

Believe it or not, I'm not questioning your choice, as what any given one of us wants/likes will differ.  I'm just pointing out that how this is actually implemented "under the hood" matters as far as what's exposed to the screen reader to read.

I also have absolute trust that when a given feature is turned on, and I'm using it, and all evidence is that it's working, that it is indeed working.  There are many times that I have no desire to have anything announced, because it's auditory clutter.  It's just a difference of desired behavior.
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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Ann Byrne
 

But you don't know. What if you hit the wrong key? To ensure the integrity of my work, I want a way to know what I have written.

At 10:42 AM 2/17/2021, you wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 09:05 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
With too little vision to check for dots, I would stinkin' like to be told if they are there.

-It is entirely possible that, way back in the versions of Word available up through 2003, that the leaders were actually implemented as a series of period characters of sufficient length, but now they're not.I haven't done this, or played with it, but Word could now be using a graphic of dots of the appropriate width based on the length of the table item and the page number.There is probably a way to get something said, but the fact that you know things align correctly is a very, very strong suggestion that "something's in there" to force the alignment of the page numbers to actually occur. It would drive me mad were it to announce something like, "Dot, Dot, Dot, Dot," for the number of dots used in a given leader for each and every leader. If you actually have a way of knowing that the leader function is activated, you can be assured it's there.--

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moderated Re: snap shot on web site

 

Yes.

WinKey+PrtSc takes a snapshot of your entire screen (so make sure the web browser is maximized if you want only that - and it will include the tabs open in a given browser window across the top so if you really want only that website, open it in its own browser window before taking the snapshot).

You will find the resulting screen shot in your Pictures library, Screenshots folder, with a name of the format Screenshot(Number).png.  The numbers start with one, and keep incrementing as you take screen shots.  If you delete all the existing screenshots, the numbering will begin with one again.
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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Ann Byrne
 

You can set JAWS to speak only three repeated characters, no matter how many there are, so you wouldn't have to hear all of them.

At 10:01 AM 2/17/2021, you wrote:
I see your point Ann, but I can also appreciate that I don’t' want to hear that extra verbiage when arrowing through the contents list. I wonder if there is a toggler of some keystroke that would list the formatting.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Thanks for this. I really believe that JAWS used to read the leader ... probably in Word 2002. shows how long it has been since I tried this.
With too little vision to check for dots, I would stinkin' like to be told if they are there.
At 07:45 PM 2/16/2021, you wrote:
Hi,
I just did a table of content earlier using that first button on the
References ribbon. I picked the first automatic option in the list. I
have enough vision to see that the leading periods are there, even
though JAWS is not reading them. Here is my speech history as I read
down a portion of this table of contents:

Table of contents linkend Table of contents Internship Seekers 1 Table
of contents linkSara Young 1 Table of contents linkLinda Brandt 1
Table of contents linkAmanda Thomas 1 Table of contents linkFull-time
position seekers 2 Table of contents

Not sure if your table of contents is the same formatting, but hoepufly
this helps. I did nothing to customize it from that first option on the
Table of Contents creation button.

Robin



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Showing the leader in a table of contents

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In word 2016 I have set tab stops for a table of
contents--6 inches, right aligned, .... as the leader. When I fill in
information the titles align correctly, the page numbers align, but
there are no little dot dot dots between the title and the beautifully
aligned page number. Does JAWS just not display the leader? do I need
to do something funky with the Word 2016 settings besides selecting the
leader?

Thx,

Ann






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moderated snap shot on web site

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Jaws2021 and Google. Is there a way to take a snap shot of a screen on a web site?

Cheers,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Research it

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:53 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Research It is just about useless anymore.
-
And was a bad crutch from the beginning.  One of the things I have hated about several things "of this ilk" is that they don't increase convenience significantly over actually learning how to get that information "the conventional way" and put an extra thing in the path of learning to do so.

The number of flight tracking options, and what they track, is myriad:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=UA+3442+flight+information 

Better to find the website(s) that track what it is you're looking for, and use them.
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moderated Re: Research it

john.falter
 

Sorry that flight lookup isn't working for you but I use research it every day for many of its options.

BBC CNN Reuters Fox news and most other choices.

 

On 2/15/2021 5:53 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I can't find it either.  ResearchIt is just about useless anymore.


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On 2/15/2021 5:48 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
I am trying to check on a flight using research it.  I know it is the correct number, because I can find it on google; but stinkin' research it tells me flight not found.  Is flight look up working for everyone else?  The number I am looking for is United Airlines 3442.  I entered ua3442, but no joy.














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moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 09:05 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
With too little vision to check for dots, I would stinkin' like to be told if they are there.
-
It is entirely possible that, way back in the versions of Word available up through 2003, that the leaders were actually implemented as a series of period characters of sufficient length, but now they're not.

I haven't done this, or played with it, but Word could now be using a graphic of dots of the appropriate width based on the length of the table item and the page number.

There is probably a way to get something said, but the fact that you know things align correctly is a very, very strong suggestion that "something's in there" to force the alignment of the page numbers to actually occur.  It would drive me mad were it to announce something like, "Dot, Dot, Dot, Dot," for the number of dots used in a given leader for each and every leader.  If you actually have a way of knowing that the leader function is activated, you can be assured it's there.
--

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moderated Re: versions of ms office.

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:59 AM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
I bought a license to the retail version Office 2016 on eBay.  Maybe older licenses still exist.  The seller sent me the license key in an email and it worked to activate my office.  I really hope it’s legitimate.  Not sure how you really know. 
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I also have acquired my licenses for Office 2016 and one for Windows 10 Pro on the grey market.  Once you step out of buying direct from Microsoft or a well-known reseller of Microsoft license keys (like the ones you can get at Best Buy, Walmart, etc.) you have absolutely no way of knowing whether what you're purchasing is a legitimate license or not.  I have had any number over the years that would not work and where the seller was banned from eBay before I could even complain.  But at the prices available for grey market keys, it would take a very long time before I came anywhere close to paying what a brand new license costs.

As far as legitimacy, once I've presented a license key to the entity that controls the licenses, and it is activated by them, it's legitimate as far as I'm concerned.  They are the ones who hold the ability to either accept, or reject, a key.  They also are the "keepers of the databases" that should tell them if a given key is OK for activation/reactivation or not.  If they activate, who am I to argue?

On the Grey Market
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Van Lant, Robin
 

I see your point Ann, but I can also appreciate that I don’t' want to hear that extra verbiage when arrowing through the contents list. I wonder if there is a toggler of some keystroke that would list the formatting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Showing the leader in a table of contents

Thanks for this. I really believe that JAWS used to read the leader ... probably in Word 2002. shows how long it has been since I tried this.
With too little vision to check for dots, I would stinkin' like to be told if they are there.
At 07:45 PM 2/16/2021, you wrote:
Hi,
I just did a table of content earlier using that first button on the
References ribbon. I picked the first automatic option in the list. I
have enough vision to see that the leading periods are there, even
though JAWS is not reading them. Here is my speech history as I read
down a portion of this table of contents:

Table of contents linkend Table of contents Internship Seekers 1 Table
of contents linkSara Young 1 Table of contents linkLinda Brandt 1
Table of contents linkAmanda Thomas 1 Table of contents linkFull-time
position seekers 2 Table of contents

Not sure if your table of contents is the same formatting, but hoepufly
this helps. I did nothing to customize it from that first option on the
Table of Contents creation button.

Robin



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Showing the leader in a table of contents

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In word 2016 I have set tab stops for a table of
contents--6 inches, right aligned, .... as the leader. When I fill in
information the titles align correctly, the page numbers align, but
there are no little dot dot dots between the title and the beautifully
aligned page number. Does JAWS just not display the leader? do I need
to do something funky with the Word 2016 settings besides selecting the
leader?

Thx,

Ann






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