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Re: JAWS losing focus?

Dale Heltzer
 

The frequency of JAWS crashing and reloading, or losing focus, has dramatically increased. I don't know if it's a matter of still needing to work out how to play with Windows 10 nicely, but so far, trying to work with JAWS and Windows 10 is a great deal more frustrating than it had been in Windows 7 or 8.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Ann,

Are you sure that it's not JAWS crashing, and then reloading?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 06:15
Subject: JAWS losing focus?


It seems to me that JAWS with version 17 and even more with 18,loses
focus more frequently than it used to. Is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks,


Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

Ann Byrne
 

At 10:49 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote:
Brian, I couldn't help but notice your PC is operating in another dimension. I see a message with a July 4, 2017 send date. Thought you might need to know.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adekoya Rasak
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 5:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

Hello Brian, How can I export my contact from gmail using basic html
view or standard view?
You want html view for GMail. when it says 'html view' you are in standard; and when it says 'standard view', you are in HTML.


Please guide.

On 07/04/2017, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Adekoya,

     If I had to choose a currently
supported, free, and accessible
e-mail client it would definitely be Thunderbird. Â Microsoft Outlook is
good, too, but expensive.

     What problem are you having
with contacts as far as exporting them
from standard view?
--
*Brian*

*Â Â Â Â Â * *A great many people think
they are thinking when they are *
*merely rearranging their prejudices.*

*Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ~ William James*

--


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Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Brian, I couldn't help but notice your PC is operating in another dimension. I see a message with a July 4, 2017 send date. Thought you might need to know.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adekoya Rasak
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 5:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

Hello Brian, How can I export my contact from gmail using basic html
view or standard view?

Please guide.

On 07/04/2017, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Adekoya,

          If I had to choose a currently supported, free, and accessible
e-mail client it would definitely be Thunderbird.  Microsoft Outlook is
good, too, but expensive.

          What problem are you having with contacts as far as exporting them
from standard view?
--
*Brian*

*         * *A great many people think they are thinking when they are *
*merely rearranging their prejudices.*

*                 ~ William James*

--


*ADEKOYA, Rasak*.
*Leadership, Management & Content Consultant* at www.360Connect.com.ng
<http://www.360connect.com.ng/>

If you want to significantly multiply your productivity & profit, talk to me

+2348034829045

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<https://twitter.com/Iamrasakadekoya>

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Re: JAWS losing focus?

Tom Behler
 

I have noticed this problem as well, especially with Jaws 18.

I especially notice it when using Firefox or Internet Explorer, and Outlook
e-mail.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS losing focus?

It seems to me that JAWS with version 17 and even more with 18,loses focus
more frequently than it used to. Is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks,


Re: JAWS losing focus?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

For years mine never lost focus. When I first heard that, I
had no idea what in the world what it was talking about or
if the screen dimmed or something. Anyway, it seems to be a
norm now - can be annoying, but I guess we have to live with
it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

It keeps talking, so I think not.
At 09:03 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote:
Ann,

Are you sure that it's not JAWS crashing, and then
reloading?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 06:15
Subject: JAWS losing focus?


It seems to me that JAWS with version 17 and even more with
18,loses
focus more frequently than it used to. Is there a way to
avoid this?

Thanks,






Re: JAWS losing focus?

Ann Byrne
 

It keeps talking, so I think not.

At 09:03 AM 4/10/2017, you wrote:
Ann,

Are you sure that it's not JAWS crashing, and then reloading?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 06:15
Subject: JAWS losing focus?


It seems to me that JAWS with version 17 and even more with 18,loses
focus more frequently than it used to. Is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks,






Re: Accidentally deleted Jaws18, now install stopps...it says that it is already installed?

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Peter,

Try running a JAWS repair.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 7:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accidentally deleted Jaws18, now install stopps...it says that it is already installed?

Thanks for the repair tip.
I knew about that run command but I thought you had to have Jaws running.
Sometimes you need someone else to set you straight.

So far my Windows 10 seems to be ok. Probably some minor adjustments will need to be made.

Peter T.


On 4/8/2017 5:21 PM, Gerry Ellis wrote:
Hi,

If you have the downloaded instalation file or the JAWS CD you can do
a repair. For instance, if the download file was called J18.0.exe and
it was in your c:\ folder, then type "c:\temp\j18.0.exe" /type repair

Note putting the folder in quotes. This is only necessary if the folder name includes spaces,b but it is no harm doing it wherever the instalation file is.

If you have the CD, I presume you would point to the install.exe or setup .exe (whatever is on the CD's root directory).



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don’t know where you’re going,
How will you know when you get there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 10:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accidentally deleted Jaws18, now install stopps...it says that it is already installed?

If you have a backup of your data or can make one I think it would be much easier and less potential issues down the road to reinstall Windows.
Maybe if the Program Files folder is still in the recycle bin you could restore it and be OK, otherwise I think you'll run into problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Peter Tesar
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accidentally deleted Jaws18, now install stopps...it says that it is already installed?

Hi,

Yes I did delete the entire "program files" folder. I forgot about the recycle bin.

On this desktop, I have Win10 working. Also NVDA and Narrator allows me to navigate. I also have FireFox and Thunderbird and most of the other apps are in the "program files (x86)" folder.

I cannot do a repair on Jaws if there is no Jaws installed. Unless you can do it with the Jaws 18 downloaded file or DVD.

The question is there a hidden folder with the Jaws 18 setup files that the wizard said was being copied to the hard drive. After the copy progress clicks finish, I'm told that the program is already installed.
I cannot force it to continue the installation.

The "add remove programs" list has Jaws 18 on it, but it is not responsive. It cannot find the program to do the uninstall.

There may be a hidden file folder with a program that would allow a forced install.

My laptop has Win 10 and Jaws 18. Can I just copy the "Freedom Scientific" folder from the laptop to the desktop?

Maybe I can install Jaws 16 or 17.

I'm waiting for the Win 10 version 17 to give me the ability to run it on a USB penn drive with Narrator.

Peter T.











Re: JAWS losing focus?

Dave...
 

Ann,

Are you sure that it's not JAWS crashing, and then reloading?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 06:15
Subject: JAWS losing focus?


It seems to me that JAWS with version 17 and even more with 18,loses
focus more frequently than it used to. Is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks,


Re: recapcha

Jonas Voll
 

 

Has anyone got the new Webvisum installed with the latest version of Firefox?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
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F: 316-267-4312
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Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

If you use an app you can probably get around all that. I used Craigslist and Kijiji last fall to post an item for sale and did all of it from my iPhone. The Kijiji app is very accessible and I used an app called "Classifieds Pro Free for Craigslist by Impala Studios for Craigslist and it was also very accessible if I remember correctly. When replying to somebody it's almost like using an email app with an Inbox and all that.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 4:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

 

What is especially disturbing is that this captcha problem seems to be getting progressively worse.  As usual, the blindness advocacy groups, whose responsibility it is to address such issues, have their heads buried in the sand, concerned more about Braille literacy and white cane proficiency than web site accessibility. I doubt that you will get anywhere by contactingCraig’s List directly.  Because this is a major web site, why not contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage to them over the recaptcha problem and see what kind of response you get?  If they are truly dedicated to blindness advocacy, as they would like us to believe, then they will do something about it.  But, unfortunately, you are more likely to get some kind of lame response that it’s not their problem, blah,blah, blah. As far as Craig’s List failing to comply with the Telecommunications Act of 2010, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai has made it quite clear that he intends to pursue a pro-business, anti-consumer agenda, which means that he is highly unlikely to enforce it.  Indeed, he has already taken action to quash net neutrality and government subsidization of Lifeline service for low-income consumers, so he would not seem to be any friend of us struggling blind computer users.

 

Gerald

 

 

From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 6:37 AM

Subject: Re: recapcha

 

Good morning all,

I’ve been up against  these stupid captchas and recaptcha anti spam non accessibility issues ever since their inception!

Now I can’t reply to anything for sale, or any other category on Craig’s List!

 

I’ve tried all the tricks in the book, and it’s hit or miss at best. This totally sucks and is quite frustrating for a blind person using screen readers or an IPhone in voice over.

 

So my question to you all is: How can I contact Craig’s List to voice my complaint of their noncompliance with the 21st Century Communication and Video Accessibility Act of 2010 and other legislation?

I think CL’s recaptcha goes through Google, so who do you think I should contact and how would I go about that?

 

Any help is appreciated big time!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 9:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

Someone just told me that the I am not a robot by google Captia on my Pharmacy will verify me if I put in my user name and password. Then go into forms mode and make sure I stay in forms mode and after I check the check box I sit and wait ten or fifteen seconds. Then it will say Verified and I won’t need to enter a Captia. I’m not sure if that actually works but I am willing to give it a try since the last time it not only locked me out of my account but all other accounts at the same I P address.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 7:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

All these recaptchas totally suck for the blind.

The only one that I’ve seem that a blind person can work without problem, is the one in which you are a asked a math question like: “What is 6 + 6?”. Then there’s an edit box right underneath in which you type in “12”. Then hit enter and bingo, you’re in.

I’ve submitted numerous complaints directly  to these Recaptcha companies, completely explaining everything, but I never get a response and the BS keeps getting crappier!

It’s a never ending chase, the blind pay for steep upgrades to their technology, only to watch the sighted teck go ahead 10 steps!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

Totally agree

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

My Pharmacy just went to one which is very difficult to check the box. After I get the box checked the Captia can be visual or audio. Selecting the audio is very difficult because it requires me to select an unlabeled graphic of a headset. Then I select play or download the Captia as an MP3. However, I do not have very long to solve the captia or I have to check the box again and start over. And if I fail to solve the captia too many times I am locked out of my Pharmacy and I am required to call them.

Several days ago, while attempting to refill several prescriptions, I locked myself out because every time I attempted to play the audio captia Jaws would talk over the first number. I kept trying to repeat the audio but I ended up locking myself out of the Pharmacy. I did not want to download the audio or mute Jaws. I just wanted to refill the prescriptions and I had already entered my User name and Password using Jaws. I felt that should have been sufficient.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

André,

          One of the major intentions of the reCAPTCHA was to have the same verification abilities to spurn spam bots and machine logins yet avoid the issues with accessibility that came with Captchas.  They should be read by screen readers and require only that you activate them, much like a button, to verify that you are human.

           I've encountered many of these but not when I was actively using a screen reader at the time.  Apparently there are variants that are much more like old Captchas, but I have yet to encounter them.  All I've hit so far are the boxes/buttons that you have to activate/check that have the label "I am not a robot."

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James

 
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JAWS losing focus?

Ann Byrne
 

It seems to me that JAWS with version 17 and even more with 18,loses focus more frequently than it used to. Is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks,


Re: Gmail?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I quit saying "No-way" years ago. Having witnessed the rise and fall of Netscape, Yahoo, Lotus, DBase, and WordPerfect, each of which had its period of industry-leading dominance. Having said this, the decline will probably be years away.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Gmail?

I bet some user, sighted or not, is still using some version of Eudora
because they just can't (or won't) give it up.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Friday, Apr 7, 2017 7:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Gmail?

No way at all gmail will go away or be turned off just as there is no
way Outlook.com will do so.
The accessibility of the web interface is a different issue, but you can
always use an email client on your pC like Outlook or Thunderbird, not
sure if Eudora is still much u sed and accessible.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Gmail?

Hello, I don't believe that Gmail will be going away. As it is attached
to Google.
Joseph Hudson

Email
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On Apr 7, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Howard Traxler
<howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:

Opinion, please:

Do you all think gmail will be around for awhile? I wouldn't like to
sign up and get all my mailing lists changed over to gmail and then they
turn it off; or better yet, make it inaccessible.

Howard
----- Original Message ----- From: "Milton Ota"
<mota1252@samobile.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?


I'm using the HTML interface on gmail. It makes using JAWS and any
screen reader easier to navigate with the standard web commands like h
for headings, b for buttons, x for checkboxes, t for tables, etc.

I believe Freedom scientific still recommends using the HTML interface
to view e-mail via the web.

Original message:
in addition, I'd also like to know if there are particular things I
can or should do to make a GMail's interface/account accessible to a
screen reader? I am thinking of obtaining one but am not sure yet.
any recommendations/suggestions to persuade me to sign up?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Adekoya Rasak [mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, Apr 7, 2017 10:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

Hello,

I have been using basic html on gmail.com but I want to switch to
Standard view. Has anyone used it conveniently with jaws?

If yes, can you share the best key stroke with major task?

I look forward to your feedback.

Regard.
















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Re: recapcha

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If you use that URL often, you might  want to label the audio graphic, making it application-specific.  It may be a hassle the first time, but could pay dividends.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

My Pharmacy just went to one which is very difficult to check the box. After I get the box checked the Captia can be visual or audio. Selecting the audio is very difficult because it requires me to select an unlabeled graphic of a headset. Then I select play or download the Captia as an MP3. However, I do not have very long to solve the captia or I have to check the box again and start over. And if I fail to solve the captia too many times I am locked out of my Pharmacy and I am required to call them.

Several days ago, while attempting to refill several prescriptions, I locked myself out because every time I attempted to play the audio captia Jaws would talk over the first number. I kept trying to repeat the audio but I ended up locking myself out of the Pharmacy. I did not want to download the audio or mute Jaws. I just wanted to refill the prescriptions and I had already entered my User name and Password using Jaws. I felt that should have been sufficient.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

André,

          One of the major intentions of the reCAPTCHA was to have the same verification abilities to spurn spam bots and machine logins yet avoid the issues with accessibility that came with Captchas.  They should be read by screen readers and require only that you activate them, much like a button, to verify that you are human.

           I've encountered many of these but not when I was actively using a screen reader at the time.  Apparently there are variants that are much more like old Captchas, but I have yet to encounter them.  All I've hit so far are the boxes/buttons that you have to activate/check that have the label "I am not a robot."

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: recapcha

Alan Robbins
 

Many times when I go to check that box it won’t

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: recapcha

 

André,

          One of the major intentions of the reCAPTCHA was to have the same verification abilities to spurn spam bots and machine logins yet avoid the issues with accessibility that came with Captchas.  They should be read by screen readers and require only that you activate them, much like a button, to verify that you are human.

           I've encountered many of these but not when I was actively using a screen reader at the time.  Apparently there are variants that are much more like old Captchas, but I have yet to encounter them.  All I've hit so far are the boxes/buttons that you have to activate/check that have the label "I am not a robot."

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

 

Adekoya,

         I can give some guidance, but it will not be perfect.  I am not going to try to give the JAWS keystrokes related to this unless it turns out to be difficult to actually carry out and requires that level of digging.  Exporting all contacts from Gmail is straightforward and I will use the standard view as my basis.  I am presuming you already can open your contacts list in Gmail.

  1. Open your contacts in Gmail.
  2. Navigate to what JAWS announces as 'Button Menu - Collapsed' then expand it and select "All" from the dropdown menu.  This will cause all of your contacts to be selected.
  3. Navigate to the "More button Menu," expand it, and choose "Export"
  4. You will get a pop-up dialog that asks you, "Which contacts do you want to export?" and generally the answer to that will be given by activating the "Selected Contacts" radio button, which should be activated by default.  If you, by chance, want to export the e-mail address of everyone who's ever sent you an e-mail rather than just those you've put in your personal contacts list then activate the "All Contacts" radio button instead.  There are generally hundreds more entries in "All Contacts," which are collected by Gmail as messages are received and sent, than there are in your own address book.  Use that option with extreme caution.
  5. Go to the "Which Export Format?" section and activate the radio button for the format you wish to have the contacts exported in.  I can't answer which one you want since I don't know where you intend to import them.
  6. Activate the Export button.
  7. You will now be presented with a dialog asking whether you want to open or save the file to be created, and the save radio button is activated by default.  Since I presume you want to save the file for later importing this is as it should be.  Activate the OK button in the dialog.
  8. You'll now be presented with your usual File Explorer style save dialog.  Navigate to wherever you wish to save the file, take a look at the file name it intends to use, which is google by default with the extension determined by the file format you chose in step five, and change it if you want another file name.  After this activate the Save button.

Your contacts are now exported and saved in the file format you chose, under the file name you chose, in the folder you chose.  Now use them for importing where they need to be imported.

As an aside, if you are using IMAP access for your e-mail accounts you may not need to do the export/import process.  Some e-mail clients that manage both contacts and e-mail messages will synchronize both when you configure your e-mail account in them since both messages and contacts are maintained on the e-mail server side.

--
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        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?

Adekoya Rasak
 

Hello Brian, How can I export my contact from gmail using basic html
view or standard view?

Please guide.

On 07/04/2017, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Adekoya,

          If I had to choose a currently supported, free, and accessible
e-mail client it would definitely be Thunderbird.  Microsoft Outlook is
good, too, but expensive.

          What problem are you having with contacts as far as exporting them
from standard view?
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Re: thunderbird update gone bad

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

I've noticed that when Thunderbird goes wrong, I could not remove it and install an older version.

For a long time, I was using Thunderbird v34. I changed the update to automatic, and after many higher versions, something went wrong.
I couldn't install v34.

Removing the latest version of TB and installing v34 gave me the latest version.
Maybe there is a way to really remove Tb. I used the "add Remove" feature.

There must still be a hidden folder with the latest TB version.
Maybe someone has a suggestion on how to really remove all of TB.

Peter T.

On 4/9/2017 11:46 AM, Marsha via Groups.Io wrote:
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/5/17, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: thunderbird update gone bad
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, April 5, 2017, 10:04 AM
Try unloading and reloading
JAWS.
lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if
it is not present in small things, it does not exist at
all.
On 4/5/2017 9:15 AM,
Mario wrote:
> correction. it's
weird, I can tab as usual, but when I get to the list
> with the messages, JAWS remains silent.
might have to send a feedback
> about
this. but not sure on how to do this. never did it before.
any
> assistance would be greatly
appreciated.
>
>
>
> -------- Original
Message --------
> From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, Apr 5, 2017 10:04 AM
EST
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: thunderbird update gone bad
>
> when it finished
updating, did JAWS announce that there was a problem
> loading page? I just pressed control+w.
that should do away with the
> message,
and then if you close TB and launch it, there shouldn't
be any
> problem from then on.
>
> ever since an earlier
version, maybe 41 or so, I was never able to find
> what tweaks I can do to Thunderbird or
Firefox so I can use the JAWS
> cursor if
I needed to. if you you or anyone who knows, can you
please
> share with the list?
>
> -------- Original
Message --------
> From: dennis
[mailto:dennisc67@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, Apr 5, 2017 8:34 AM
EST
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: thunderbird update gone bad
>
> hi list. using jaws
16 and got the latest version of thunderbird. jaws
won't
> read message list. also
can't get jaws kercer to work at all just like
> firefox.
> anybody else
having this issue?
>
>
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon>
>
> Virus-free.
www.avast.com
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
>
>
>
>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hi
I'm having the problem with Jaws not reading the message list in Thunderbird. I have the latest version of Thunderbird and using Jaws 16. If there was an answer to this, I may have deleted it because I wasn't having the problem at the time. Could someone please help? My mail is really piling up. Thanks in advance.

Marsha



Re: thunderbird update gone bad

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 4/5/17, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: thunderbird update gone bad
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, April 5, 2017, 10:04 AM

Try unloading and reloading
JAWS.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if
it is not present in small things, it does not exist at
all.

On 4/5/2017 9:15 AM,
Mario wrote:
> correction. it's
weird, I can tab as usual, but when I get to the list
> with the messages, JAWS remains silent.
might have to send a feedback
> about
this. but not sure on how to do this. never did it before.
any
> assistance would be greatly
appreciated.
>
>
>
> -------- Original
Message --------
> From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, Apr 5, 2017 10:04 AM
EST
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: thunderbird update gone bad
>
> when it finished
updating, did JAWS announce that there was a problem
> loading page? I just pressed control+w.
that should do away with the
> message,
and then if you close TB and launch it, there shouldn't
be any
> problem from then on.
>
> ever since an earlier
version, maybe 41 or so, I was never able to find
> what tweaks I can do to Thunderbird or
Firefox so I can use the JAWS
> cursor if
I needed to. if you you or anyone who knows, can you
please
> share with the list?
>
> -------- Original
Message --------
> From: dennis
[mailto:dennisc67@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, Apr 5, 2017 8:34 AM
EST
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: thunderbird update gone bad
>
> hi list. using jaws
16 and got the latest version of thunderbird. jaws
won't
> read message list. also
can't get jaws kercer to work at all just like
> firefox.
> anybody else
having this issue?
>
>
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon>
>
>     Virus-free.
www.avast.com
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
>
>
>
>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Hi
I'm having the problem with Jaws not reading the message list in Thunderbird. I have the latest version of Thunderbird and using Jaws 16. If there was an answer to this, I may have deleted it because I wasn't having the problem at the time. Could someone please help? My mail is really piling up. Thanks in advance.

Marsha


Re: Gmail?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Hello Marrianne, I don’t have the steps in front of me, but it is under the Gmaile settings. It will enable quite a few keystrokes. If I dig the steps up I will put them on the e list.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Gmail?

 

What is the shortcut key that needs to be enabled? I use Gmail in standard mode all of the time. I don't think I have ever enabled in a shortcut key.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 8, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:

There is actually a shortcut keystroke feature in Gmail that needs to be toggled on and then standard view tends to be a smoother path IMO. The Google accessibility team actually recommends standard view with the shortcut keys enabled.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Gmail?

 

Thanks for the clarification, Brian.

 

This is very helpful.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Gmail?

 

Tom,

         Google recommends the use of the basic HTML view for maximum ease of accessibility and my observation is that this view is a bit easier to deal with than the standard view.

          That being said, there are a lot of screen-reader users who elect to use the standard view.

          If you're able to navigate what you need to navigate and the process of doing so isn't driving you mad then whichever of the two views you choose is perfectly fine.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Jaws not speaking battery time remaining

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

ON my new HP Envy X360 laptop, Jaws isn’t speaking the amount of time left while working off of the battery. Only the percentage amount.

My sighted wife says that she only sees the percentage too. So I’m wondering if it’s some setting I need to enable somewhere on the system? If it is, I’m not aware where to check or what to enable. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Running JFW 18 and Windows 10 Home.

Thanks,


Re: Gmail?

Marianne Denning
 

There are a lot of things you can do in standard that you can't do in basic. I prefer standard over basic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:

If you turn the gmail website to "basic html" it is plenty accessible,
though without the dynamic bells and whistles of the standard
interface.

On 4/7/17, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
I sure hope g-mail will be around for a while, since that's what I use for
my personal e-mail.

I use Outlook to manage my g-mail account.

It's far from perfect, but, in my view, is far more accessible than the
g-mail web site.

I have accessed my g-mail via the g-mail web site, but with considerable
difficulty. So, another way to manage g-mail would probably be best, if
you
can find it.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Gmail?

Opinion, please:

Do you all think gmail will be around for awhile? I wouldn't like to sign
up and get all my mailing lists changed over to gmail and then they turn it
off; or better yet, make it inaccessible.

Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Milton Ota" <mota1252@samobile.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?


I'm using the HTML interface on gmail. It makes using JAWS and any screen

reader easier to navigate with the standard web commands like h for
headings, b for buttons, x for checkboxes, t for tables, etc.

I believe Freedom scientific still recommends using the HTML interface to

view e-mail via the web.

Original message:
in addition, I'd also like to know if there are particular things I can
or should do to make a GMail's interface/account accessible to a screen
reader? I am thinking of obtaining one but am not sure yet. any
recommendations/suggestions to persuade me to sign up?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Adekoya Rasak [mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, Apr 7, 2017 10:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is anyone Using Standard html page on Gmail?
Hello,
I have been using basic html on gmail.com but I want to switch to
Standard view. Has anyone used it conveniently with jaws?
If yes, can you share the best key stroke with major task?
I look forward to your feedback.
Regard.











--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com