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Re: MS Word 2010

 

Does anybody still have Jaws 17? I have long ago stopped using Office 2010, but I'm curious about what Tim said that he could not read the contents of cells in an Excel spreadsheet with Jaws 17, I believe he said he was using Office 2010 on a Windows 10 computer. I wonder if something else is going on or if Jaws 17 really does not read Excel content in this scenario but Jaws 18 does.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

I'm not Brian, but, yes, they will work well together. I am using them on this computer.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:08 PM

Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

Brian,

 

Just to reassure myself and make sure I understand correctly …… Will Windows 10 Pro, Jaws 18 and MS word 2010 work well together without any major issues?

 

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

Laura,

          The extended support end date for the Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 2 (which all of us should have by now if we have Office 2010, or will have not long after loading a fresh copy) is October 13, 2020.   (See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/13615)

           End of support for Office 2010 should have little to nothing to do with whether a screen reader will work with it so long as said screen reader will work under "the old Windows paradigm" meaning if it's compatible with Windows 7 or earlier.

           It is highly unlikely that screen reader support for Windows 7 will end before its sundown date in 2020 and, given the embedded base of Windows 7 and that many will still be using it, it may go after that.  I doubt that the code that supports "the old pre-universal-apps" Windows application programs (termed Desktop Apps under Windows 10) is going to go away for a very, very long time because those programs are not going away any time soon and there are still many that are under development that show no signs of rushing to become an universal app anytime soon.

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how to get Jaws 18 to speak what radio button is checked automatically

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, is there a way to get Jaws 18 to Automatically say 3 radio button checked as an example.  It does this in Jaws 15 but in 18 it says radio button checked.  Thanks for your help.


Re: standard user and jaws

 

Actually, I believe you can get around this issue as a standard user if you have JAWS set up to not keep user profiles (or whatever these get called, my 40-minute mode is currently past its 40 minutes) in the installation directory.  The issue comes if a standard user tries to write data to one of the Windows directories, and the default location for JAWS is under the Program Files hierarchy.

I could swear that there is a way at setup to designate an alternate storage location for the user profile, but it's been too long since my last install for me to say this with anything approaching certainty.
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Re: standard user and jaws

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi,David,

 

That is nothing at all to do with JAWS. It is to do with organisations not wanting users to make changes to their computers that make the computers vulnerable to malware threats and to ensure that IT support knows what they are likely to encounter if they are asked to resolve a problem. They lock you out from making changes.

 

If you need access to update JAWS on your system, then you need to make a case to your IT Support or to your boss. If you live in the U.S. there is plenty of legislation to support your requirements.

 

 

 

Take care,

 

Gerry Ellis

 

If you don’t know where you’re going,

How will you know when you get there?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: standard user and jaws

 

Hi,

When I used JAWS at work, I could not even make a hot key for it without the administrator doing it. I did not realize that Window-Eyes let a standard user make these changes. I am so sorry, but you can not make hardly any changes to JAWS as a standard user, you can change the rate or volume and such, but that is about it. You cannot get into quick settings and make many changes in there at all.

That is not right. I had to use JAWS at work at practically factory settings LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: standard user and jaws

 

why is it that no jaws settings can be changed when running as a standard user?

i can do this with window eyes.

this is a serious problem for me.

i do not log on as a administrator to block most viruses from installing

themselves

i tried changeing the jaws icon to run as administrator but with this both jaws

and the ease of access center runs at the same time.

even so i muted all of the function keys and they show there indeed in mute

mode but the still speak.

i can make these changes logged in as administrator and the work fine. but not

as a standard user.

 

 

There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.

You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

 

 

 

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: MS Word 2010

 

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 04:20 pm, Gerry Ellis wrote:
I suggest that a good way to improve your efficiency using MS Office in general is to spend a lot of time learning keyboard alternatives.

This goes well beyond just MS Office.  I strongly encourage my clients to figure out, based on the work they're currently doing and any time new "repetitive" tasks start entering the picture, that they should take the time to create a personal "greatest hits list" of the keyboard shortcuts for the tasks they need to do in the programs they're needing to do them.   It is just so much faster and, ultimately, less frustrating than constantly navigating to a control, whether that be via menu or ribbon. 
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Re: MS Word 2010

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi, Laura,

 

I use that combination together every day at home and it works very well. I use the same at work except that i use Windows 7 and it also works very well. It works particularly well with Excel.

 

I suggest that a good way to improve your efficiency using MS Office in general is to spend a lot of time learning keyboard alternatives.

 

 

 

 

Take care,

 

Gerry Ellis

 

If you don’t know where you’re going,

How will you know when you get there?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

Brian,

 

Just to reassure myself and make sure I understand correctly …… Will Windows 10 Pro, Jaws 18 and MS word 2010 work well together without any major issues?

 

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

Laura,

          The extended support end date for the Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 2 (which all of us should have by now if we have Office 2010, or will have not long after loading a fresh copy) is October 13, 2020.   (See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/13615)

           End of support for Office 2010 should have little to nothing to do with whether a screen reader will work with it so long as said screen reader will work under "the old Windows paradigm" meaning if it's compatible with Windows 7 or earlier.

           It is highly unlikely that screen reader support for Windows 7 will end before its sundown date in 2020 and, given the embedded base of Windows 7 and that many will still be using it, it may go after that.  I doubt that the code that supports "the old pre-universal-apps" Windows application programs (termed Desktop Apps under Windows 10) is going to go away for a very, very long time because those programs are not going away any time soon and there are still many that are under development that show no signs of rushing to become an universal app anytime soon.

--
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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


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Re: standard user and jaws

David Moore
 

Hi,

When I used JAWS at work, I could not even make a hot key for it without the administrator doing it. I did not realize that Window-Eyes let a standard user make these changes. I am so sorry, but you can not make hardly any changes to JAWS as a standard user, you can change the rate or volume and such, but that is about it. You cannot get into quick settings and make many changes in there at all.

That is not right. I had to use JAWS at work at practically factory settings LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: standard user and jaws

 

why is it that no jaws settings can be changed when running as a standard user?

i can do this with window eyes.

this is a serious problem for me.

i do not log on as a administrator to block most viruses from installing

themselves

i tried changeing the jaws icon to run as administrator but with this both jaws

and the ease of access center runs at the same time.

even so i muted all of the function keys and they show there indeed in mute

mode but the still speak.

i can make these changes logged in as administrator and the work fine. but not

as a standard user.

 

 

There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.

You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

 

 

 

 


Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 03:50 pm, David Moore wrote:
it takes a long time to learn it all LOL!

 I say the following without a bit of snark, and not with the intention of discouraging anyone:  No one ever learns them all.

JAWS is, to me, very much like any program of your choosing in the Microsoft Office suite.  I don't know of a single person who knows all the features of any single one of these, let alone all of them.  As programs expand to become "grand unified" it becomes impossible for any user to learn it all.

That being said, you don't need to learn it all.  Just like in spoken language, there is a core that is used for 90+ percent of what you do.  You learn the esoterica if or when you need it. [And that applies to all screen readers and any complex piece of software.  Full mastery simply is not possible for everything they can do.  Testing groups in development houses tend to be split into groups that focus on a specific feature set or small range of feature sets.]
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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: MS Word 2010

 

Laura,

          I'm refusing to make that assurance but I will say that JAWS 18 is working as expected (so far, anyway) with MS-Office 2010 on my laptop which runs Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.296.

          Given this, it is my expectation that they should do the same under the Pro version of Windows 10.
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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: MS Word 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 


I'm not Brian, but, yes, they will work well together. I am using them on this computer.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

Brian,

 

Just to reassure myself and make sure I understand correctly …… Will Windows 10 Pro, Jaws 18 and MS word 2010 work well together without any major issues?

 

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

Laura,

          The extended support end date for the Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 2 (which all of us should have by now if we have Office 2010, or will have not long after loading a fresh copy) is October 13, 2020.   (See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/13615)

           End of support for Office 2010 should have little to nothing to do with whether a screen reader will work with it so long as said screen reader will work under "the old Windows paradigm" meaning if it's compatible with Windows 7 or earlier.

           It is highly unlikely that screen reader support for Windows 7 will end before its sundown date in 2020 and, given the embedded base of Windows 7 and that many will still be using it, it may go after that.  I doubt that the code that supports "the old pre-universal-apps" Windows application programs (termed Desktop Apps under Windows 10) is going to go away for a very, very long time because those programs are not going away any time soon and there are still many that are under development that show no signs of rushing to become an universal app anytime soon.

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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.



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Re: MS Word 2010

Laura Richardson
 

Brian,

 

Just to reassure myself and make sure I understand correctly …… Will Windows 10 Pro, Jaws 18 and MS word 2010 work well together without any major issues?

 

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Word 2010

 

Laura,

          The extended support end date for the Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 2 (which all of us should have by now if we have Office 2010, or will have not long after loading a fresh copy) is October 13, 2020.   (See:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/13615)

           End of support for Office 2010 should have little to nothing to do with whether a screen reader will work with it so long as said screen reader will work under "the old Windows paradigm" meaning if it's compatible with Windows 7 or earlier.

           It is highly unlikely that screen reader support for Windows 7 will end before its sundown date in 2020 and, given the embedded base of Windows 7 and that many will still be using it, it may go after that.  I doubt that the code that supports "the old pre-universal-apps" Windows application programs (termed Desktop Apps under Windows 10) is going to go away for a very, very long time because those programs are not going away any time soon and there are still many that are under development that show no signs of rushing to become an universal app anytime soon.

--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: Hello

David Moore
 

Hi,

To make a hot key for starting JAWS, go to the JAWS icon on your desktop, press alt+enter, and tab to the box where you type the hotkey. Just press J or any other letter. The CTRL and ALT will be put there automatically. So just pressing a J, will create your hotkey. Your hotkey will then be CTRL+Alt+J. just tab to okay after typing the j and press enter. Sometimes, Win10 throws it out, so you have to do those steps again. You will get a message to press enter if you are an administrator with win10 as well when setting up the hotkey!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello

 

Oh yes, and JAWS should work from the Systems Tray. You can Press Insert-J. You'll be in Options. Right Arrow once, and you'll be on Basics. Enter there. In that section, tab across, and Automatically Start up JAWS will be there, and a couple or three tabs to the right will be JAWS in Systems Tray, you will want to check both of those by pressing rthe Spacebar. Then tab to OK. Then press Escape.

 

Bye for now,

 

Carolyn

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:57 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Hello

 

You can also configure JAWS to start automatically; I strongly recommend doing both.

 

Ted

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G

Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Hello

 

For what it is worth, JAWS doesn't assign a hot key by default to start it.

You can always press windows-r to run and type

jaws18 for version 18

jaws 17 for version 17.

 

You'll need to make a hot key such as alt-control-j if you want that to work.

 

 

 

Chris Grabowski

Mystic Access

Where the magic is in learning.

https://www.MysticAccess.com

Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while

actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio

tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer

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-------- Original Message --------

From: Michelle's Home Emails

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:10 PM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Hello

 

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

Michelle Stevens here,

 

Though I am still a new Jaws user, you may wish to go to the braille and

synthesiser settings through the main menu.

 

Press your hot keys to start Jaws usually insert plus control pus letter

j on your desk top.

 

Press insert plus j to bring Jaws into focus.

 

Press alt plus o for the options menu. Press  alt to arrow through the

different menus.

 

Tip, I found the on board help very helpful. You may wish to install the

fs reader for tutorials.

 

There are a lot of podcasts in Freedomscientific website.

 

If I am giving wrong info, I am sorry, there are others on the list a

lot more experienced than me.

 

Best wishes

Michelle Stevens.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 16 May 2017, at 10:02 am, Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...

<mailto:gilp@...>> wrote:

 

My name is Pastor Gil Pries.

I am going to be a new jaws user.

I’d like to know how to get in to the braille and synthesizer manager?

Thanks,

Pastor Gil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Hi Joseph and all.

David Moore
 

Hi Shannon!

Ask away! I really feel for you guys just checking out JAWS for the first time. It has a lot of bells and wistles, but it takes a long time to learn it all LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Thanks. For that it was actually helpful. And may make all the difference for me. That feature and learning what Ican and can not configure myself will help me figure which direction to go.

Thanks again

Shannon 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 17, 2017, at 4:32 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi,

If you have JAWS version 15 or above, you have the touch cursor. That cursor can get you to many more controls on a page or in a program than the invisible cursor can. The invisible cursor only works as well as the JAWS cursor, and for me, the JAWS cursor does not work at all on many web pages or in many programs. The touch cursor is like using your finger on a touch screen to navigate. You do not even need a touch screen on your device for this to work. Just press shift+numpad plus to turn it on and press the numpad plus twice to go back to the PC cursor. On a laptop, press shift+caps lock+semicolon to turn it on, and press caps lock+semicolon twice to turn it off. You go back to the PC cursor when turned off. This touch cursor in JAWS, allows you to navigate apps, just like you would with your finger. When on, just press your arrow keys. Right arrow is like swiping right for example. This is how you can use your keyboard with JAWS to navigate many environments, not just apps. I want you all to know that if you are switching to JAWS.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Old days as in early 2010’s (shows what happens if I don’t keep up with certain details of screen readers from time to time…). Perhaps I didn’t think of that as I was too used to touch cursor, UWP and what not these days…

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Old days? Far as I know it still exists. LOL

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: May-17-17 5:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

Hi,

Ah yes, forgot about that from the old days…

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hi Joseph and all.

 

 

There’s a sixth cursor for JAWS, and that’s the invisible cursor.  It’s used to read info on the screen without having to move other cursors.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY

 

 


Re: Hi Joseph and all.

Shannon
 

Thanks. For that it was actually helpful. And may make all the difference for me. That feature and learning what Ican and can not configure myself will help me figure which direction to go.
Thanks again
Shannon 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2017, at 4:32 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi,

If you have JAWS version 15 or above, you have the touch cursor. That cursor can get you to many more controls on a page or in a program than the invisible cursor can. The invisible cursor only works as well as the JAWS cursor, and for me, the JAWS cursor does not work at all on many web pages or in many programs. The touch cursor is like using your finger on a touch screen to navigate. You do not even need a touch screen on your device for this to work. Just press shift+numpad plus to turn it on and press the numpad plus twice to go back to the PC cursor. On a laptop, press shift+caps lock+semicolon to turn it on, and press caps lock+semicolon twice to turn it off. You go back to the PC cursor when turned off. This touch cursor in JAWS, allows you to navigate apps, just like you would with your finger. When on, just press your arrow keys. Right arrow is like swiping right for example. This is how you can use your keyboard with JAWS to navigate many environments, not just apps. I want you all to know that if you are switching to JAWS.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Old days as in early 2010’s (shows what happens if I don’t keep up with certain details of screen readers from time to time…). Perhaps I didn’t think of that as I was too used to touch cursor, UWP and what not these days…

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Old days? Far as I know it still exists. LOL

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: May-17-17 5:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

Hi,

Ah yes, forgot about that from the old days…

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hi Joseph and all.

 

 

There’s a sixth cursor for JAWS, and that’s the invisible cursor.  It’s used to read info on the screen without having to move other cursors.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY

 


Re: Hello

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Oh yes, and JAWS should work from the Systems Tray. You can Press Insert-J. You'll be in Options. Right Arrow once, and you'll be on Basics. Enter there. In that section, tab across, and Automatically Start up JAWS will be there, and a couple or three tabs to the right will be JAWS in Systems Tray, you will want to check both of those by pressing rthe Spacebar. Then tab to OK. Then press Escape.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello

You can also configure JAWS to start automatically; I strongly recommend doing both.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello

For what it is worth, JAWS doesn't assign a hot key by default to start it.
You can always press windows-r to run and type
jaws18 for version 18
jaws 17 for version 17.

You'll need to make a hot key such as alt-control-j if you want that to work.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Michelle's Home Emails
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hello

Hi Pastor Gil,

Michelle Stevens here,

Though I am still a new Jaws user, you may wish to go to the braille and
synthesiser settings through the main menu.

Press your hot keys to start Jaws usually insert plus control pus letter
j on your desk top.

Press insert plus j to bring Jaws into focus.

Press alt plus o for the options menu. Press alt to arrow through the
different menus.

Tip, I found the on board help very helpful. You may wish to install the
fs reader for tutorials.

There are a lot of podcasts in Freedomscientific website.

If I am giving wrong info, I am sorry, there are others on the list a
lot more experienced than me.

Best wishes
Michelle Stevens.

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 May 2017, at 10:02 am, Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@embarqmail.com
<mailto:gilp@embarqmail.com>> wrote:

My name is Pastor Gil Pries.
I am going to be a new jaws user.
I’d like to know how to get in to the braille and synthesizer manager?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

David Moore
 

Hi,

For JAWS to do OCR on a PDF document, press Insert+Space bar, then press the two letters O D.

David Moore

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From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

What is the JAWS command for PDF, please? Thanks.

 

Bye for now,

 

Carolyn

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:39 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

I'm still using 16 (which may reduce the value of my input),

and have used it on 2010, 2013, and 2016.  The JAWS cursors

function like  mouse buttons, and allow you to go outside

the typing area, where angels sometimes fear to tread.

 

 

As for the learning curve,  take it as  you need it.  focus

on the basic tutorial, which will tell you everything  you

need to get started.  Learn fancy features as you need them.

It's a really slick program with good ergonomics, and runs

with a huge program library

 

 

When you need it,  you'll love the PDF functionality, which,

when combined with the recent PDF-friendly features in

Office, puts real power on your desktop.  Many, if not most,

offices use this versatile format, and it'll probably mean

you will not have to purchase the full-blown Acrobat

program, which will save either you or your employer a

nickel or two.

 

 

Ted

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Behalf Of Michael Mote

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:59 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

 

Hi Shannon!  JAWS offers a lot of helpful training materials

that are free.  To locate these, navigate to the JAWS Window

by pressing either Alt Tab or Insert plus the letter J.

Insert is also the 0 key on the number pad on a regular

desktop keyboard, provided that your num lock setting is set

to off.  Once you are there, press Alt plus the letter H to

bring up the help menu.  Then you can use the arrow keys to

find the training option.  Press enter to open this menu.

You should land in a table of contents for all of the

training materials.  Depending on how JAWS was installed on

your system, you can either select the particular module you

are wanting to read, or download it.  You can use the arrow

keys to navigate through the page, and find all of the

choices.  I hope this is helpful for you.  Good luck!  I

know that being a new JAWS user can be very overwhelming at

first.  I was there and I haven't forgotten how confusing it

was for me.  I urge you to go through these training

modules.  They will be very helpful to you.  They are guided

as well with audio to listen to, if you don't want to read

the information. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

 

Good morning,

 

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many

conversions from WindowEyes.

 

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned

about what it can and cannot do.

 

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to

go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

 

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few

things mentioned by others concern me.

 

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel

all the time.

 

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that

true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

 

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also

use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle

the queries?

 

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the

MS Databases.

 

 

Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different

email profiles set up and I need access to them.

 

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or

buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as

WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom

scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

 

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I

can't tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of

cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and

something called Mouse overlay?

 

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can

I read the screen with the mouse?

 

 

Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to

configure it I can't tell what I can and can't do.

 

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program,

and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do

not behave well and most likely are going to require special

custom scripts.

 

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if

Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing

the web?

 

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

 

Thanks for your time.

 

Shannon

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

What is the JAWS command for PDF, please? Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

I'm still using 16 (which may reduce the value of my input),
and have used it on 2010, 2013, and 2016. The JAWS cursors
function like mouse buttons, and allow you to go outside
the typing area, where angels sometimes fear to tread.



As for the learning curve, take it as you need it. focus
on the basic tutorial, which will tell you everything you
need to get started. Learn fancy features as you need them.
It's a really slick program with good ergonomics, and runs
with a huge program library



When you need it, you'll love the PDF functionality, which,
when combined with the recent PDF-friendly features in
Office, puts real power on your desktop. Many, if not most,
offices use this versatile format, and it'll probably mean
you will not have to purchase the full-blown Acrobat
program, which will save either you or your employer a
nickel or two.



Ted



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Hi Shannon! JAWS offers a lot of helpful training materials
that are free. To locate these, navigate to the JAWS Window
by pressing either Alt Tab or Insert plus the letter J.
Insert is also the 0 key on the number pad on a regular
desktop keyboard, provided that your num lock setting is set
to off. Once you are there, press Alt plus the letter H to
bring up the help menu. Then you can use the arrow keys to
find the training option. Press enter to open this menu.
You should land in a table of contents for all of the
training materials. Depending on how JAWS was installed on
your system, you can either select the particular module you
are wanting to read, or download it. You can use the arrow
keys to navigate through the page, and find all of the
choices. I hope this is helpful for you. Good luck! I
know that being a new JAWS user can be very overwhelming at
first. I was there and I haven't forgotten how confusing it
was for me. I urge you to go through these training
modules. They will be very helpful to you. They are guided
as well with audio to listen to, if you don't want to read
the information.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many
conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned
about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to
go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few
things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel
all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that
true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also
use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle
the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the
MS Databases.



Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different
email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or
buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as
WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom
scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I
can't tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of
cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and
something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can
I read the screen with the mouse?



Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to
configure it I can't tell what I can and can't do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program,
and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do
not behave well and most likely are going to require special
custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if
Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing
the web?

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I use JAWS for two accounts in Spread Sheets, and have no
problem. I just know not to press Enter, that's the main
thing, and that, of course, is not a JAWS thing. JAWS won't
do Say All, which is Insert-Page Down or 3 on the Num Lock,
but at the beginning of a row, it will read that row of
columns by pressing JAWS Key and the 8 or Up Arrow on the
Num Lock pad.

If I am in column D, which on mine is deposit ammounts, I
can just Down Aorrow, and it will read me any deposits in
the column. Hope that gives you an idea. I'm sure it's like
dancing on ice right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many
conversions from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned
about what it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to
go through, and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few
things mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel
all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that
true? That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also
use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle
the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the
MS Databases.



Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different
email profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or
buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as
WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom
scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I
can't tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of
cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and
something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can
I read the screen with the mouse?



Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to
configure it I can't tell what I can and can't do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program,
and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do
not behave well and most likely are going to require special
custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if
Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing
the web?

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon


Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Joseph,

          Thanks.  My latest referral will be using JAWS 18 so I'll have to brush up on this feature, particularly since I believe she's got a touch screen laptop.
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Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
--
Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.