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moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Bill White
 

Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select
all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own
accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and
has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where
I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some
vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does
anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into
word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into
word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very
hard. So what can one do?

Rahul


moderated Reading pdfs with confidence

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do?

Rahul


moderated Re: duck duck go browser

Judy
 

It is a search engine and I like it because they are more secure than google as far as your info is concerned. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: duck duck go browser

 

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: duck duck go browser

 

I've been using DuckDuckGo for years, and I have it installed as my default search engine on every browser I use.  In the Chromium-based browsers, I also have the DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials extension installed.

To my knowledge, there is no DuckDuckGo Browser for the PC platform.  They have introduced one for Android, though:  DuckDuckGo Privacy Browser for Android.  All of the sites talking about using this for Windows end up talking about using an Android Emulator to run it, which is way more trouble than it's worth since.

In the PC world, it's a search engine and/or browser extension, but not a full-blown web browser.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: duck duck go browser

Mike B
 

Here you go:
 

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:06 AM
Subject: duck duck go browser

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: duck duck go browser

Dan Longmore
 

You can set Duck, Duck Go as your default engine and it works well with browsers. I like it for the privacy it offers. 

Does not track nearly as much as others. 

 

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: duck duck go browser

 

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: Teamviewer

Dan Longmore
 

Richard,

  Team Viewer and JAWS 2020 was accessible when used a few weeks ago.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Teamviewer

 

I need to use Teamviewer to get help on a braille display from the company.

Are there scripts for the latest Teamviewer and Jaws 2020?

The Doug Lee scripts don’t think I have any compatible Jaws, but then again, those scripts are from 2015.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Teamviewer

Richard Turner
 

They will be controlling mine, so hopefully all will go fine.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Teamviewer

 

Richard, I have not seen any current JAWS scripts for Team Viewer.

 

If someone is going to control your computer you really don’t n needs scripts for JAWS but, if you are intending to control another users computer, I don’t know how accessible Team Viewer will be for you.

 

Milton

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Teamviewer

 

I need to use Teamviewer to get help on a braille display from the company.

Are there scripts for the latest Teamviewer and Jaws 2020?

The Doug Lee scripts don’t think I have any compatible Jaws, but then again, those scripts are from 2015.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Teamviewer

Milton Ota
 

Richard, I have not seen any current JAWS scripts for Team Viewer.

 

If someone is going to control your computer you really don’t n needs scripts for JAWS but, if you are intending to control another users computer, I don’t know how accessible Team Viewer will be for you.

 

Milton

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Teamviewer

 

I need to use Teamviewer to get help on a braille display from the company.

Are there scripts for the latest Teamviewer and Jaws 2020?

The Doug Lee scripts don’t think I have any compatible Jaws, but then again, those scripts are from 2015.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Teamviewer

Richard Turner
 

I need to use Teamviewer to get help on a braille display from the company.

Are there scripts for the latest Teamviewer and Jaws 2020?

The Doug Lee scripts don’t think I have any compatible Jaws, but then again, those scripts are from 2015.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: duck duck go browser

Richard Turner
 

Which also offers extensions and is available as an iPhone and probably Android app.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: duck duck go browser

 

It’s a search engine page.  duckduckgo.com – like searching on Google.com. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: duck duck go browser

 

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin

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moderated Re: duck duck go browser

Van Lant, Robin
 

It’s a search engine page.  duckduckgo.com – like searching on Google.com. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: duck duck go browser

 

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin

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moderated Re: duck duck go browser

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Duck Duck Go is a search engine, and there would be extensions for its use in different browsers.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: duck duck go browser

 

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Michael Mote
 

Hi David. If you go into the narrator settings, and navigate through all of the options, you will find the braille settings. You have to tab quite a few times to find it, but they are there. They should be self explanatory.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Michael, thanks, my friend is using the latest version of jaws, windows 10.
where to find or disable the braille driver in narrator?


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Hi David. I have had this same issue before as well. I would be happy to help you off line if necessary. As someone else suggested, make sure that Narrator id not taking over the braille support. JAWS did release a technical bulletin about this last November. If all of that is not the issue, then it could very well be the drivers that come with the braille display which can be downloaded from the HIMS web-site. You have to visit. www.hims-inc.com/support, and then find the braille edge section. I currently use a QBraille, and honestly, my opinion is going down about the unit. It is very tricky to make work with the computer, but it can be done. I had to reinstall the drivers with the display actually off. Then, once that has completed, I had to turn on the unit, and then set all of the JAWS settings for it. I select Braille Edge as the display, which is what you would need to do. I would be happy to send you a copy of the drivers privately if you need them. Best of luck.

On 6/24/20, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Hims driver installed?
On Jun 23, 2020, at 18:23, david <davidmac1957@...> wrote:


Yes;
I didd the space+v=version,
he has the latest

The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Press space+v to get the version number.
It should be:
1.1 Build 20170307

I believe that is the last update.
If you don’t have it, I put it on my web site because HIMS is so
completely incompetent that they have never gotten it onto their web
site.
I won’t go further into that or I might have to use some explitives.
Below is a link to the zip file directly.

http://www.turner42.com/BrailleEdge40-1.1Build20170307.zip
This latest release for the Braille EDGE 40 contains the following
new features and enhancements:

Expanded UEB Support,
Test Mode (for testing braille cells), Exam Mode, Typing Mode, and
enhanced JAWS support.
Expanded UEB Support

The Braille EDGE 40 already supported the use of UEB in the Notepad
application. Now UEB can also be used in the Braille EDGE 40 menus
and prompts.
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille for Message" or press the letter "G".
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted
Braille, UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille.
Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to save.
To change the default grade of Braille used in the Notepad:
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille For Notepad Grade" or press the letter N.
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted
Braille, UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille.
Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to
change.
Test Mode
This feature is useful when testing Braille cells for weak dots.
1. To enter Test Mode, press "SPACE+BACKSPACE+ENTER+T" from anywhere
in the Braille EDGE 40 Program Menu.
2. Individual pins will move up and down on the display starting with
dot1 in cell 1, moving to DOT2 in CELL1, etc.
3. Press "SPACE" to pause or resume Test Mode.
4. While paused, pressing the cursor router above any cell will cause
all pins in that cell to be displayed.
5. Also while paused, press any individual dot or function key on the
Braille EDGE 40 and see its corresponding function.
6. Press "SPACE+Z" to exit Test Mode.
Typing Mode
Typing Mode has been available on the Braille Sense for many years.
Now this function comes to the Notepad on the Braille EDGE 40. While
in Typing Mode, pressing "SPACE" with any character on the keyboard
enters that character followed by a space into the document. This
mode can keep you from accidentally moving to a different part of the
document by pressing"SPACE" plus any characters that are navigation
commands. Typing Mode is especially useful for fast typists.
Typing Mode is a toggle. To enable Typing Mode from within a
document, press "F4+K". The same key combination will exit Typing Mode.
Enhanced JAWS Support
Function keys on the Braille EDGE 40 should produce the same results
as their QWERTY keyboard equivalents: Escape, Tab, Control, Alt,
Insert, Shift, Windows and Applications.
Exam Mode
Exam Mode locks the Braille EDGE 40 in terminal mode, so that it may
be used as a Braille display for a student using a computer designed
to facilitate standardized testing. Exam Mode requires that a
password be entered so that the function cannot be exited without
entering the same password. The computer must contain a screen reader
compatible with HIMS Braille displays for Braille input and output to be possible.
Terminal Mode is the mode in which the notetaker serves as a Braille
Terminal (Braille display) for a screen reader. The screen reader
outputs the screen information in Braille to the device, and
translates keystrokes from the Braille keyboard into text and
commands the computer can understand. This Braille access provides a
truly accessible testing environment for the student.
We have left specific instructions out of this release note and the
Braille EDGE 40 user manual in an attempt to keep it out of the hands
of students. Please email HIMS at info@... instructions
for using Exam Mode.


If you have any questions, please call HIMS Technical Support at
(888)
520-4467 Option 2 or e-mail them at: support@...


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Is the Braill Edge using the latest firmware update from HIMS?

You will have to check that with the HIMS website and find out how to
find the version number of the Braille Edge firmware.

Milton


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Yes, I'm connecting USB, and yes, I set the display in jaws.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Are you connecting by blutooth or USB?

I assume you set the Braille display in JAWS for the Braille Edge.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and the Braille edge

Good afternoon folks.
I ran into another issue today, a friends computer, windows 10,
latest jaws 2020, but, the braille edge won't connect.
I did a reinstall of jaws,
restarted the machine, but the edge stays in terminal mode.
when I connect or disconnect the device, I do hear a tone to tell me
that the device is connected or disconnected.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power
of a dream.




moderated duck duck go browser

kevin meyers
 

Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: jaws and the Braille edge

david
 

Michael, thanks, my friend is using the latest version of jaws, windows 10.
where to find or disable the braille driver in narrator?


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Hi David. I have had this same issue before as well. I would be happy
to help you off line if necessary. As someone else suggested, make
sure that Narrator id not taking over the braille support. JAWS did
release a technical bulletin about this last November. If all of that
is not the issue, then it could very well be the drivers that come
with the braille display which can be downloaded from the HIMS
web-site. You have to visit. www.hims-inc.com/support, and then find
the braille edge section. I currently use a QBraille, and honestly, my
opinion is going down about the unit. It is very tricky to make work
with the computer, but it can be done. I had to reinstall the drivers
with the display actually off. Then, once that has completed, I had to
turn on the unit, and then set all of the JAWS settings for it. I
select Braille Edge as the display, which is what you would need to
do. I would be happy to send you a copy of the drivers privately if
you need them. Best of luck.

On 6/24/20, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Hims driver installed?
On Jun 23, 2020, at 18:23, david <davidmac1957@...> wrote:


Yes;
I didd the space+v=version,
he has the latest

The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Press space+v to get the version number.
It should be:
1.1 Build 20170307

I believe that is the last update.
If you don’t have it, I put it on my web site because HIMS is so
completely incompetent that they have never gotten it onto their web
site.
I won’t go further into that or I might have to use some explitives.
Below is a link to the zip file directly.

http://www.turner42.com/BrailleEdge40-1.1Build20170307.zip
This latest release for the Braille EDGE 40 contains the following new
features and enhancements:

Expanded UEB Support,
Test Mode (for testing braille cells),
Exam Mode,
Typing Mode,
and enhanced JAWS support.
Expanded UEB Support

The Braille EDGE 40 already supported the use of UEB in the Notepad
application. Now UEB can also be used in the Braille EDGE 40 menus and
prompts.
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille for Message" or press the letter "G".
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted Braille,
UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille.
Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to save.
To change the default grade of Braille used in the Notepad:
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille For Notepad Grade" or press the letter N.
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted Braille,
UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille.
Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to
change.
Test Mode
This feature is useful when testing Braille cells for weak dots.
1. To enter Test Mode, press "SPACE+BACKSPACE+ENTER+T" from anywhere in
the Braille EDGE 40 Program Menu.
2. Individual pins will move up and down on the display starting with dot1
in cell 1, moving to DOT2 in CELL1, etc.
3. Press "SPACE" to pause or resume Test Mode.
4. While paused, pressing the cursor router above any cell will cause all
pins in that cell to be displayed.
5. Also while paused, press any individual dot or function key on the
Braille EDGE 40 and see its corresponding function.
6. Press "SPACE+Z" to exit Test Mode.
Typing Mode
Typing Mode has been available on the Braille Sense for many years. Now
this function comes to the Notepad on the Braille EDGE 40. While in Typing
Mode, pressing "SPACE" with any character on the keyboard enters that
character followed by a space into the document. This mode can keep you
from accidentally moving to a different part of the document by
pressing"SPACE" plus any characters that are navigation commands. Typing
Mode is especially useful for fast typists.
Typing Mode is a toggle. To enable Typing Mode from within a document,
press "F4+K". The same key combination will exit Typing Mode.
Enhanced JAWS Support
Function keys on the Braille EDGE 40 should produce the same results as
their QWERTY keyboard equivalents: Escape, Tab, Control, Alt, Insert,
Shift, Windows and Applications.
Exam Mode
Exam Mode locks the Braille EDGE 40 in terminal mode, so that it may be
used as a Braille display for a student using a computer designed to
facilitate standardized testing. Exam Mode requires that a password be
entered so that the function cannot be exited without entering the same
password. The computer must contain a screen reader compatible with HIMS
Braille displays for Braille input and output to be possible.
Terminal Mode is the mode in which the notetaker serves as a Braille
Terminal (Braille display) for a screen reader. The screen reader outputs
the screen information in Braille to the device, and translates keystrokes
from the Braille keyboard into text and commands the computer can
understand. This Braille access provides a truly accessible testing
environment for the student.
We have left specific instructions out of this release note and the
Braille EDGE 40 user manual in an attempt to keep it out of the hands of
students. Please email HIMS at info@... instructions for using
Exam Mode.


If you have any questions, please call HIMS Technical Support at (888)
520-4467 Option 2 or e-mail them at: support@...


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Is the Braill Edge using the latest firmware update from HIMS?

You will have to check that with the HIMS website and find out how to find
the version number of the Braille Edge firmware.

Milton


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Yes, I'm connecting USB, and yes, I set the display in jaws.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Are you connecting by blutooth or USB?

I assume you set the Braille display in JAWS for the Braille Edge.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and the Braille edge

Good afternoon folks.
I ran into another issue today, a friends computer, windows 10, latest
jaws 2020, but, the braille edge won't connect.
I did a reinstall of jaws,
restarted the machine, but the edge stays in terminal mode.
when I connect or disconnect the device, I do hear a tone to tell me that
the device is connected or disconnected.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.




moderated Re: test

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Your coming through.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 3:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: test

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moderated Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Michael Mote
 

Hi David. I have had this same issue before as well. I would be happy
to help you off line if necessary. As someone else suggested, make
sure that Narrator id not taking over the braille support. JAWS did
release a technical bulletin about this last November. If all of that
is not the issue, then it could very well be the drivers that come
with the braille display which can be downloaded from the HIMS
web-site. You have to visit. www.hims-inc.com/support, and then find
the braille edge section. I currently use a QBraille, and honestly, my
opinion is going down about the unit. It is very tricky to make work
with the computer, but it can be done. I had to reinstall the drivers
with the display actually off. Then, once that has completed, I had to
turn on the unit, and then set all of the JAWS settings for it. I
select Braille Edge as the display, which is what you would need to
do. I would be happy to send you a copy of the drivers privately if
you need them. Best of luck.

On 6/24/20, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:
Hims driver installed?
On Jun 23, 2020, at 18:23, david <davidmac1957@...> wrote:


Yes;
I didd the space+v=version,
he has the latest

The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Press space+v to get the version number.
It should be:
1.1 Build 20170307

I believe that is the last update.
If you don’t have it, I put it on my web site because HIMS is so
completely incompetent that they have never gotten it onto their web
site.
I won’t go further into that or I might have to use some explitives.
Below is a link to the zip file directly.

http://www.turner42.com/BrailleEdge40-1.1Build20170307.zip
This latest release for the Braille EDGE 40 contains the following new
features and enhancements:

Expanded UEB Support,
Test Mode (for testing braille cells),
Exam Mode,
Typing Mode,
and enhanced JAWS support.
Expanded UEB Support

The Braille EDGE 40 already supported the use of UEB in the Notepad
application. Now UEB can also be used in the Braille EDGE 40 menus and
prompts.
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille for Message" or press the letter "G".
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted Braille,
UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille.
Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to save.
To change the default grade of Braille used in the Notepad:
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille For Notepad Grade" or press the letter N.
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted Braille,
UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille.
Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to
change.
Test Mode
This feature is useful when testing Braille cells for weak dots.
1. To enter Test Mode, press "SPACE+BACKSPACE+ENTER+T" from anywhere in
the Braille EDGE 40 Program Menu.
2. Individual pins will move up and down on the display starting with dot1
in cell 1, moving to DOT2 in CELL1, etc.
3. Press "SPACE" to pause or resume Test Mode.
4. While paused, pressing the cursor router above any cell will cause all
pins in that cell to be displayed.
5. Also while paused, press any individual dot or function key on the
Braille EDGE 40 and see its corresponding function.
6. Press "SPACE+Z" to exit Test Mode.
Typing Mode
Typing Mode has been available on the Braille Sense for many years. Now
this function comes to the Notepad on the Braille EDGE 40. While in Typing
Mode, pressing "SPACE" with any character on the keyboard enters that
character followed by a space into the document. This mode can keep you
from accidentally moving to a different part of the document by
pressing"SPACE" plus any characters that are navigation commands. Typing
Mode is especially useful for fast typists.
Typing Mode is a toggle. To enable Typing Mode from within a document,
press "F4+K". The same key combination will exit Typing Mode.
Enhanced JAWS Support
Function keys on the Braille EDGE 40 should produce the same results as
their QWERTY keyboard equivalents: Escape, Tab, Control, Alt, Insert,
Shift, Windows and Applications.
Exam Mode
Exam Mode locks the Braille EDGE 40 in terminal mode, so that it may be
used as a Braille display for a student using a computer designed to
facilitate standardized testing. Exam Mode requires that a password be
entered so that the function cannot be exited without entering the same
password. The computer must contain a screen reader compatible with HIMS
Braille displays for Braille input and output to be possible.
Terminal Mode is the mode in which the notetaker serves as a Braille
Terminal (Braille display) for a screen reader. The screen reader outputs
the screen information in Braille to the device, and translates keystrokes
from the Braille keyboard into text and commands the computer can
understand. This Braille access provides a truly accessible testing
environment for the student.
We have left specific instructions out of this release note and the
Braille EDGE 40 user manual in an attempt to keep it out of the hands of
students. Please email HIMS at info@... instructions for using
Exam Mode.


If you have any questions, please call HIMS Technical Support at (888)
520-4467 Option 2 or e-mail them at: support@...


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Is the Braill Edge using the latest firmware update from HIMS?

You will have to check that with the HIMS website and find out how to find
the version number of the Braille Edge firmware.

Milton


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Yes, I'm connecting USB, and yes, I set the display in jaws.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Are you connecting by blutooth or USB?

I assume you set the Braille display in JAWS for the Braille Edge.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and the Braille edge

Good afternoon folks.
I ran into another issue today, a friends computer, windows 10, latest
jaws 2020, but, the braille edge won't connect.
I did a reinstall of jaws,
restarted the machine, but the edge stays in terminal mode.
when I connect or disconnect the device, I do hear a tone to tell me that
the device is connected or disconnected.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.




moderated Re: jaws and the Braille edge

Chris Hill
 

Hims driver installed?



On Jun 23, 2020, at 18:23, david <davidmac1957@...> wrote:



Yes;

I didd the space+v=version,

he has the latest

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

 

Press space+v to get the version number.

It should be:

1.1 Build 20170307

 

I believe that is the last update.

If you don’t have it, I put it on my web  site because HIMS is so completely incompetent that they have never gotten it onto their web site.

I won’t go further into that or I might have to use some explitives.

Below is a link to the zip file directly.

 

http://www.turner42.com/BrailleEdge40-1.1Build20170307.zip

This latest release for the Braille EDGE 40 contains the following new features and enhancements:

  • Expanded UEB Support,
  • Test Mode (for testing braille cells),
  • Exam Mode,
  • Typing Mode,
  • and enhanced JAWS support.

Expanded UEB Support

The Braille EDGE 40 already supported the use of UEB in the Notepad application. Now UEB can also be used in the Braille EDGE 40 menus and prompts.
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille for Message" or press the letter "G".
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted Braille, UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille. Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to save.
To change the default grade of Braille used in the Notepad:
1. Go to the Options Menu on the Braille EDGE 40.
2. Scroll to "Braille For Notepad Grade" or press the letter N.
3. There are five options: US Uncontracted Braille, US Contracted Braille, UEB Uncontracted Braille, UEB Contracted Braille, and Computer Braille. Press "SPACEBAR" to cycle through the options and press "ENTER" to change.
Test Mode
This feature is useful when testing Braille cells for weak dots.
1. To enter Test Mode, press "SPACE+BACKSPACE+ENTER+T" from anywhere in the Braille EDGE 40 Program Menu.
2. Individual pins will move up and down on the display starting with dot1 in cell 1, moving to DOT2 in CELL1, etc.
3. Press "SPACE" to pause or resume Test Mode.
4. While paused, pressing the cursor router above any cell will cause all pins in that cell to be displayed.
5. Also while paused, press any individual dot or function key on the Braille EDGE 40 and see its corresponding function.
6. Press "SPACE+Z" to exit Test Mode.
Typing Mode
Typing Mode has been available on the Braille Sense for many years. Now this function comes to the Notepad on the Braille EDGE 40. While in Typing Mode, pressing "SPACE" with any character on the keyboard enters that character followed by a space into the document. This mode can keep you from accidentally moving to a different part of the document by pressing"SPACE" plus any characters that are navigation commands. Typing Mode is especially useful for fast typists.
Typing Mode is a toggle. To enable Typing Mode from within a document, press "F4+K". The same key combination will exit Typing Mode.
Enhanced JAWS Support
Function keys on the Braille EDGE 40 should produce the same results as their QWERTY keyboard equivalents: Escape, Tab, Control, Alt, Insert, Shift, Windows and Applications.
Exam Mode
Exam Mode locks the Braille EDGE 40 in terminal mode, so that it may be used as a Braille display for a student using a computer designed to facilitate standardized testing. Exam Mode requires that a password be entered so that the function cannot be exited without entering the same password. The computer must contain a screen reader compatible with HIMS Braille displays for Braille input and output to be possible.
Terminal Mode is the mode in which the notetaker serves as a Braille Terminal (Braille display) for a screen reader. The screen reader outputs the screen information in Braille to the device, and translates keystrokes from the Braille keyboard into text and commands the computer can understand. This Braille access provides a truly accessible testing environment for the student.
We have left specific instructions out of this release note and the Braille EDGE 40 user manual in an attempt to keep it out of the hands of students. Please email HIMS at info@... instructions for using Exam Mode.


If you have any questions, please call HIMS Technical Support at (888) 520-4467 Option 2 or e-mail them at: 
support@...

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

 

Is the Braill Edge using the latest firmware update from HIMS?

 

You will have to check that with the HIMS website and find out how to find the version number of the Braille Edge firmware.

 

Milton

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

 

Yes, I'm connecting USB, and yes, I set the display in jaws.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the Braille edge

 

Are you connecting by blutooth or USB?

 

I assume you set the Braille display in JAWS for the Braille Edge.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws and the Braille edge

 

Good afternoon folks.

I ran into another issue today, a friends computer, windows 10, latest jaws 2020, but, the braille edge won't connect.

I did a reinstall of jaws,

restarted the machine, but the edge stays in terminal mode.

when I connect or disconnect the device, I do hear a tone to tell me that the device is connected or disconnected.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 


moderated Re: Scripts for JFW and Dragon?

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I understand that it appears that Dictation Bridge for JAWS is a product, but it does not in fact work. Lucy Greko, one of those who spearheaded the project, confirmed this when I met year last year. The project ran out of funding, and development was still necessary for the JAWS version.  I think some people can use it, experienced users, but it is not for everybody as the project intended.

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scripts for JFW and Dragon?

 

Hi. A free version of Dictation Bridge is also available for JAWS.

Hartgen Consultancy has two solutions for using JAWS with Dragon. J-Dictate is for people who want to use Dragon for dictation into programs such as Word, Outlook, etc., who are comfortable or able to use their computer keyboard.

J-Say not only allows for voice dictation but it allows a user to completely control their computer with all commands, both for Windows as well as for JAWS. The programs from Hartgen Consultancy are specific to JAWS whereas Dictation Bridge has a separate addon for NVDA.

 


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/23/2020 2:29 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
> Your best bet is to buy Jay dictate to work with dragon and jaws. > With NVDA, you would be able to use dictation bridge, which is free. > > On Jun 23, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@...> > wrote: > > Hi, Everyone. I need to archive a book and want to use Dragon > Naturally Speaking to do it. I'm running JFW18 and Win10. Are there > scripts that work with JFW and Dragon? Or resources I can access to > learn to use the dictation feature of the program? > > Thanks, Dani > > > > > >