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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Mario
 

this happens when I use Chrome, but when I choose to use Firefox and start typing the address I visited before, JAWS does not read as I type the address. is there a setting I need to change? anyone know?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, March 26, 2020, 12:32 PM
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding
Another feature about FF and Chrome is that you can just do control + L
and type in part of the web page and if you've been there, it takes you
there.
I probably type in more than I need to, but daily I check the Nebraska
lottery page, and that site is:
http://www.nelottery.com/
but if I do ctrl + L and type in only the letters nelott it takes me there.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "netbat66" <netbat66@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding


there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list.  each method works
differently.
there is control shift b,  this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the  entire list of links and you have the option to
search the
entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for
window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to  put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message----- From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B.  What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing  with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at
the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged
the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there
with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I
wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called.
this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7
machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?





























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moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

JM Casey
 

Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like  the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.

 

I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: March 26, 2020 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind.  Mostly among the newly Blind.

However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind.

I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled,  and get a real job.

It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market.

That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software.

I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works.  And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income.

But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one.  So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers.  Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:14 AM

Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations.

Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user.

They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Hi?

This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All  you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license.

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates: 

those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:



Hi friends!

 

I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

 

In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.

 

Thank you!

 

Best

Thabo

 

 

 

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Glenn / Lenny
 

Another feature about FF and Chrome is that you can just do control + L and type in part of the web page and if you've been there, it takes you there.
I probably type in more than I need to, but daily I check the Nebraska lottery page, and that site is:
http://www.nelottery.com/
but if I do ctrl + L and type in only the letters nelott it takes me there.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding


there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search the
entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

Glenn / Lenny
 

Good question, I downloaded some scripts for putty and they seem to do nothing for Jaws 2019 or Jaws 16 when using putty.
The thing it needs to do is to echo what is going on in the window, so one does not have to keep routing the jaws cursor and reading between commands.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

I have a question on scripts in general. If I download the executable file for scripts, do  simply run the .exe file and the program automatically places the scripts where they need to be?

What’s the procedure for putting scripts where they need to be to work with JAWS?

Thanks. John Riehl

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:24 AM
To: JFW List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

 

From Top Tech Tidbits:

 

7. JAWS Scripts for Slack.  These free scripts make the text chat portion accessible and provide other enhancements:
https://bit.ly/2JccZfb

 

 

8. JAWS Scripts for Unigram Telegram Client.  Telegram seems to be gaining traction as a messenger client. These scripts make this Windows client more accessible:
https://bit.ly/2Jd0obl

 


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Glenn / Lenny
 


Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind.  Mostly among the newly Blind.
However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind.
I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled,  and get a real job.
It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market.
That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software.
I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works.  And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income.
But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one.  So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers.  Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations.

Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user.

They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Hi?

This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All  you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license.

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates: 

those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 



On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:



Hi friends!

 

I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

 

In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.

 

Thank you!

 

Best

Thabo

 

 

 

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

it can not update without a internet connection.
but if you wait even a minute after it has been installed it will update. you have to be fast. grin
then you have to open the internet options menu and find advanced somewhere and change it to never check for updates. i also turn off use background services. i don't know if the updateing uses this. i have closed firefox and reloaded it and went back to make sure it is still set to never update.
someone else, maybe on this list found the updater program in the program files x86\mazilla folder and renamed this file so firefox can't find it to do an update.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

There's Firefox 52.6.0, which is the one I've attempted to install on my
Windows 7 machine, but it keeps updating without my consent even with the
Internet connection unplugged from the back of the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin
Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought firefox stopped working with jaws.

Is there a version that does at this point?

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Connect Outlook to Word

Van Lant, Robin
 

There used to be an option on the File menu in Office programs for "Send as attachment". In recent versions, this has been replaced by a "file Share" button on the Home ribbon. It's toward the far right end of the ribbon, past the Styles group. The shortcut to open this dialog of options is Alt, then z, then S. There are options to make your document into the body of the email or to attach it to a message. Like others, I prefer to grab files from File Explorer and attach them, but I think this alternative may be what you were asking for. It does assume that Outlook is your default email program. If not, you'll need to make that the case before trying to use the feature.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connect Outlook to Word

I believe Outlook uses Word to process text. So when you create a message, Word is the editor. If you want to send a Word file, follow the instructions from previous posts. If you want to open an attachment in Word, shift-tab from the message and you should be on the title of the attachment. Press enter to open it, or good old ctrl+c to copy it in order to paste it into your documents or other folder. There are free FS webinars on using Outlook, and others on JAWS with Word. NVDA for about $20 has an excellent textbook on Outlook, as well as another on Word.

To get to the FS webinar page,
1. press insert+j to get to the JAWS page.
2. Press alt+h (help).
3. Press 'r' (resources).
4. Press 'w' (webinars).
5. Find the link to archived webinars and explore/download the treasures there.
At 10:21 PM 3/25/2020, you wrote:
Hi all, Hope Everyone are staying safe in their house. I have a
question on how to connect Outlook to word. Does any one know the steps
on connect Outlook to word to make sending attachment easier. I'm going
to use Outlook as my default email service to use with my homework
assignment from my high school's distance learning session  during
the Corona Virus. Hope to hear from you.
Best regardsÂ
Michael MunnÂ




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moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessible.com

Lino Morales
 

David Pinto is the guy who created said program. Its been around for  years.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessible.com

 

That is a perfect question for whomever it is that makes/sells that program.

I'm sure they have contact information on their site.

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

it mentions that it will expire on June 30. does that mean if one wishes to keep using it, they will have to pay another $120? if yes, it doesn't seem like a good deal to me.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 6:38 PM
Subject: Typability From yesaccessible.com
Right now, it is on sale for $30.00.

Here is the link.

https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyesaccessible.com%2Ftypeability.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccc742b7c823545bf07ff08d7d10f6914%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637207736420139613&amp;sdata=AE%2BUhnh1LXPX9GIHDJ3WZRLzBDvccrGOSqVGN%2Fz%2FEOY%3D&amp;reserved=0

I have no experience with this program.

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
Oregon.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:36 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessible.com

OK, I found it. The subject line was giving the wrong website. So in
order to give less confusion, I changed the subject line to reflect the
correct website.

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Jessica D
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:27 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

Hi

Yes it does. On an unrelated note, how did you learn all of the braille
commands, so that you could become Jaws certified?

Thanks,

Jessica



On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...
<mailto:THAB0.BASEKI@...>> wrote:

   

   Oh! Okay. That’s a lot in my currency. Does the trial give access to
   all features?

   JAWS certified-2020

https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomscientific.com%2FServices%2FTrainingAndCertification%2FCertification&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccc742b7c823545bf07ff08d7d10f6914%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637207736420139613&amp;sdata=%2FlEHzAsKwjaqamd9qYPmGSfiAZ2jO3fChjCdekBCrOQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

------------------------------------------------------------------------

   *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
   <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> on behalf of
   Jessica D <jldail13@... <mailto:jldail13@...>>
   *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:57:05 PM
   *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
   <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
   *Subject:* Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

   Hi

   Yes, you get a 14 day trial. After that, you must pay $150 if you
   want to license.



   On Mar 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...
   <mailto:THAB0.BASEKI@...>> wrote:

       

       Hi friends!

       I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

       In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has
       anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if
       not, please dear friends let me know.

       Thank you!

       Best

       Thabo

       JAWS certified-2020

https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomscientific.com%2FServices%2FTrainingAndCertification%2FCertification&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccc742b7c823545bf07ff08d7d10f6914%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637207736420139613&amp;sdata=%2FlEHzAsKwjaqamd9qYPmGSfiAZ2jO3fChjCdekBCrOQ%3D&amp;reserved=0





 

moderated Re: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

Mike B
 

Yes running the, .EXE file, will put the scripts into the correct place.  To place the scripts in the correct place manually, you would place the scripts into the, ENU, folder of the version of Jaws you want to use the scripts with.  If I'm incorrect someone will set me straight.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

I have a question on scripts in general. If I download the executable file for scripts, do  simply run the .exe file and the program automatically places the scripts where they need to be?

What’s the procedure for putting scripts where they need to be to work with JAWS?

Thanks. John Riehl

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:24 AM
To: JFW List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

 

From Top Tech Tidbits:

 

7. JAWS Scripts for Slack.  These free scripts make the text chat portion accessible and provide other enhancements:
https://bit.ly/2JccZfb

 

 

8. JAWS Scripts for Unigram Telegram Client.  Telegram seems to be gaining traction as a messenger client. These scripts make this Windows client more accessible:
https://bit.ly/2Jd0obl

 


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

moderated Re: Connect Outlook to Word

JOHN RIEHL
 

When you're in outlook and want to open an attachment in word, press the
Insert key and A (the insert key on the "six pack". That takes you directly
to the attachment. Shift-tabbing does not work for me but this does.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connect Outlook to Word

I believe Outlook uses Word to process text. So when you create a message,
Word is the editor. If you want to send a Word file, follow the
instructions from previous posts. If you want to open an attachment in
Word, shift-tab from the message and you should be on the title of the
attachment. Press enter to open it, or good old ctrl+c to copy it in order
to paste it into your documents or other folder. There are free FS webinars
on using Outlook, and others on JAWS with Word. NVDA for about $20 has an
excellent textbook on Outlook, as well as another on Word.

To get to the FS webinar page,
1. press insert+j to get to the JAWS page.
2. Press alt+h (help).
3. Press 'r' (resources).
4. Press 'w' (webinars).
5. Find the link to archived webinars and explore/download the treasures
there.
At 10:21 PM 3/25/2020, you wrote:
Hi all, Hope Everyone are staying safe in their house. I have a
question on how to connect Outlook to word. Does any one know the steps
on connect Outlook to word to make sending attachment easier. I'm going
to use Outlook as my default email service to use with my homework
assignment from my high school's distance learning session  during
the Corona Virus. Hope to hear from you.
Best regardsÂ
Michael MunnÂ

moderated Re: Connect Outlook to Word

Ann Byrne
 

I believe Outlook uses Word to process text. So when you create a message, Word is the editor. If you want to send a Word file, follow the instructions from previous posts. If you want to open an attachment in Word, shift-tab from the message and you should be on the title of the attachment. Press enter to open it, or good old ctrl+c to copy it in order to paste it into your documents or other folder. There are free FS webinars on using Outlook, and others on JAWS with Word. NVDA for about $20 has an excellent textbook on Outlook, as well as another on Word.

To get to the FS webinar page,
1. press insert+j to get to the JAWS page.
2. Press alt+h (help).
3. Press 'r' (resources).
4. Press 'w' (webinars).
5. Find the link to archived webinars and explore/download the treasures there.

At 10:21 PM 3/25/2020, you wrote:
Hi all, Hope Everyone are staying safe in their house. I have a question on how to connect Outlook to word. Does any one know the steps on connect Outlook to word to make sending attachment easier. I'm going to use Outlook as my default email service to use with my homework assignment from my high school's distance learning session  during the Corona Virus. Hope to hear from you.
Best regardsÂ
Michael MunnÂ

moderated Re: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

JOHN RIEHL
 

I have a question on scripts in general. If I download the executable file for scripts, do  simply run the .exe file and the program automatically places the scripts where they need to be?

What’s the procedure for putting scripts where they need to be to work with JAWS?

Thanks. John Riehl

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:24 AM
To: JFW List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

 

From Top Tech Tidbits:

 

7. JAWS Scripts for Slack.  These free scripts make the text chat portion accessible and provide other enhancements:
https://bit.ly/2JccZfb

 

 

8. JAWS Scripts for Unigram Telegram Client.  Telegram seems to be gaining traction as a messenger client. These scripts make this Windows client more accessible:
https://bit.ly/2Jd0obl

 


 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

moderated JAWS Scripts for Slack & Unigram

Mike B
 

From Top Tech Tidbits:
 
7. JAWS Scripts for Slack.  These free scripts make the text chat portion accessible and provide other enhancements:
https://bit.ly/2JccZfb
 
 
8. JAWS Scripts for Unigram Telegram Client.  Telegram seems to be gaining traction as a messenger client. These scripts make this Windows client more accessible:
https://bit.ly/2Jd0obl
 

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

moderated Re: Getting out of the menu in docs

Pramit
 

Have you tried ALT + /.
This brings the focus back to the menu and then press ESC.

Pramit

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 7:45 AM Anna Givens <annajee82@...> wrote:
Oh yeah! I actually had tried that too! No luck

Anna

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Anna Try Function key 6 (F6 a couple of times. This usually works when navigating between panes in a program.
>
> Bill White
> billwhite92701@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Anna Givens
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:11 PM
> To: Jaws List; Jaws List
> Subject: Getting out of the menu in docs
>
> Still wondering why when I’m google docs, if I am in the menu but don’t want to select anything, but just want to get back to the document area, why doesn’t pressing escape do anything, and what should I do??
>
> I have also tried taking through the menu (which I would hate to have to do every time) but that didn’t get me back to the document area.
>
> Also tried alt tab to go to other window and then back and that didn’t do anything.
>
> Also tried f5 to refresh page (although I don’t think it was an issue with the page, but who knows) but that didn’t do anything!
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated!
>
> Be well,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

James Malone
 

To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations.

Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user.

They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Hi?

This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All  you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license.

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates: 

those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 



On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:



Hi friends!

 

I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

 

In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.

 

Thank you!

 

Best

Thabo

 

 

 

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

There's Firefox 52.6.0, which is the one I've attempted to install on my
Windows 7 machine, but it keeps updating without my consent even with the
Internet connection unplugged from the back of the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin
Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought firefox stopped working with jaws.

Is there a version that does at this point?

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?