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moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Richard Turner
 

Thanks again Brian,

I’m using Jaws but I suspect the following will work with NVDA as well.

 

For you and others who want to know how to get Edge to do the translation, hit alt+d to bring up the address bar when you are on the page you want translated.

Tab to show translation options, which for me shows up just after enter immersive reader.

Hit the spacebar on that and you will get your options.  The first, of course, is translate page.

I hit that and then went to the info about Silenzio 2.0 and copied this:

Silenzio 2.0

Program to keep your sound card on standby


 

Description

Silenzio is used to significantly speed up your computer's response when working with voice output. Acceleration is achieved by permanently playing back the silence in the background, which keeps the sound card in operation all the time. All of today's internal or external sound cards, as well as other devices such as various USB speakers, USB headphones, headphones connected via bluetoth and others, work on the principle that if they don't play anything right now, they go into a kind of economical mode from which they wake up when they get the sound to play. From an ordinary user's point of view, this is not a problem, because with standard sounds such as music or operating system sounds, waking up to a sound card is negligible. The situation is different when working with voice output, when we can receive information almost every time you press the keyboard (switching between windows, moving in a document, browsing a web page). These situations cause the sound card to be permanently put to sleep and awake by voice output, creating a tiny but rather noticeable latency when working quickly. This issue is addressed by Silenzio, which, by constantly playing silence in the background, does not allow the card to go into saving mode.

This problem was previously addressed by Galop's Soundfix program. This was at a time when various USB and wireless audio devices were not yet widespread, and computers were working with one - usually built-in - sound card. When USB sound cards came to market, it was regularly the case that if a user connected a USB headset or speaker to the computer, Soundfix continued to keep the original sound card awake and the effect was thus lost. My friend Peter Nedorost therefore contacted the programme makers asking them to update the program and adapt it to the current facilities. Since Galop replied that it would not continue to develop the program, Peťo Nedorost contacted me asking me to write such a program. It wasn't challenging and the program soon saw the light of day.

What's new

2.0

- Supported all
audio formats -
Warning if audio
file is missing
- Disabled run of multiple instances - Saved last used audio device - Minor minor bug fixes.

1.0

First version

Download

Silenzio is a freeware program and can be downloaded for free here

 

You can also find my programs on Facebook under the kissoft brand. Click
on the facebook.com/kissoftsoftware and give like.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

When Edge says something about translating the page, how do you tell it to do that?

-
Just tried it in Edge Dev and you get a pop-up dialog from Edge and the button is labeled Translate, which is most likely why ALT+Y is not working, as a "Yes" is not an option.

I happened to use Google Translate in Brave, and I keep the button for that function on my browser controls to the left of the menu button.

I'm using NVDA at the moment and focus doesn't seem to throw to that pop-up dialog and even when I get in to it via mouse, things are not being announced, so it appears that there are accessibility issues with Edge's built-in translation.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
When Edge says something about translating the page, how do you tell it to do that?
-
Just tried it in Edge Dev and you get a pop-up dialog from Edge and the button is labeled Translate, which is most likely why ALT+Y is not working, as a "Yes" is not an option.

I happened to use Google Translate in Brave, and I keep the button for that function on my browser controls to the left of the menu button.

I'm using NVDA at the moment and focus doesn't seem to throw to that pop-up dialog and even when I get in to it via mouse, things are not being announced, so it appears that there are accessibility issues with Edge's built-in translation.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: link list

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Generally, when I have encountered this error it is because of custom scripts that are running for an application, and then Vispero changed or added functionality to the script running in the personal area. You can test this by running JAWS in default mode.
You should be able to toggle this on/off with insert-space followed by Z. If indeed you are running additional scripts that you worked on, I would be willing to help you modify them so that JAWS won't break when functionality changes.
If you want direct help, reply directly to me. 


moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Richard Turner
 

Thanks Brian, you must have sent your message while I was sending mine.

 

When Edge says something about translating the page, how do you tell it to do that?

I hit alt+y which is the usual response but that did nothing.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

There is nothing like going to the source:  https://stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=30

His pages are in Slovak, and there is no English translation for his full site yet available, but Google Translate appears to do a very good job with this page, which includes a comprehensive description of the program as well as a "What's New" change log:

2.0

- Supported all audio formats
- Warning if audio file is missing
- Prohibited running of multiple instances
- Saved last used audio device
- Minor fixes for small errors.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 10:37 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Have any of you tried to just search for silenzio on the web?
-
Yes, and I know that we were typing at the same time.  The programmer's pages are in Slovak with a really incomplete English translation.  There are also supposed to be Italian and German translations of the site, but speaking neither, I didn't look to see if either is any more complete than the English translation.

Silenzio source page:  https://stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=30

As you've suggested, it's always best to do a web search to find the actual source for a given program rather than using secondary sources whenever possible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Richard Turner
 

Have any of you tried to just search for silenzio on the web?

 

It’s amazing how many things come up including the Italian to English translation.

 

I know I looked into this before and someone sent a link, but could someone send the link again and perhaps say more about why this is helpful?

 

I’m not aware of my sound card getting tired enough to take a nap, but I could just be ignoring it.

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

Mike:

 

Do you know of any advantage to downloading and installing the update?

 

I have an earlier version of silenzio here, and it seems to work just fine.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Emre Rencber

Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 6:11 AM

Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

What is Silenzio?

2021-04-02 15:48 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@...>:
> Hi All,
>
> I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I
> downloaded and installed it.  I don't know where Windows-10 got this update
>
> from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available.  I couldn't find a
> download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzz68m7o9q6qjy/Silenzio_2.0_setup.zip?dl=1
>
>
>
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
>
>
>
>
>
>



moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

There is nothing like going to the source:  https://stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=30

His pages are in Slovak, and there is no English translation for his full site yet available, but Google Translate appears to do a very good job with this page, which includes a comprehensive description of the program as well as a "What's New" change log:

2.0

- Supported all audio formats
- Warning if audio file is missing
- Prohibited running of multiple instances
- Saved last used audio device
- Minor fixes for small errors.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Tom Behler
 

Mike:

 

Do you know of any advantage to downloading and installing the update?

 

I have an earlier version of silenzio here, and it seems to work just fine.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 6:11 AM

Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

What is Silenzio?

2021-04-02 15:48 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@...>:
> Hi All,
>
> I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I
> downloaded and installed it.  I don't know where Windows-10 got this update
>
> from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available.  I couldn't find a
> download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzz68m7o9q6qjy/Silenzio_2.0_setup.zip?dl=1
>
>
>
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
>
>
>
>
>
>




moderated Re: Accessible investment firm

Ken Chernack
 

Schwab redesigned their web site about 2-3 years ago.
They have a dedicated group for accessible issues.
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible investment firm

Our firm has custodied clients with Fidelity since 2006, when we moved from Schwab partly because the Schwab Institutional software was inaccessible. Fidelity's Institutional arm used HTML so for years I could navigate it easily. I use fidelity.com's watch list feature and manage my cash on the site. I've never found the site inaccessible for anything I want to do. The Institutional site, however, is less accessible with a lot of unlabeled buttons and the like.

I think that most of the brokerage platforms these days are accessible, though one of the people on this list had to work with Schwab to understand a large update they did on their retail site.

I'm pleased with the Fidelity site accessibility and ease of use once one gets the hang of its multi level organization.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible investment firm

It might be useful to note that Fidelity has presented at the popular CSUN conference on assistive technology on Web access.

Kelly



On 3/31/21, Kane Brolin <kbrolin65@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Paul, for your keen insights on Vanguard. Even though they
compete against me professionally, I've always respected Vanguard as a
solid company that tries to treat their clients right. They made a
big deal of keeping expenses low long before most other investment
firms were even thinking about it. I'm glad to know Vanguard executed
their customer-centered focus by putting in practice a learned
approach to accessibility.

OK, first some truth in advertising; I am in the financial planning
and money management business. So I have tech preferences and
regulations for what I do that retail investors do not have. Over the
last few years, I have used in my business a tech platform called
Wealthscape which is very serviceable for trading investments and
moving cash. I don't think those outside the industry would have
access to the Wealthscape brand, but my point is that it is developed
by Fidelity. So to some extent I use Fidelity-branded securities
trading platforms on a daily basis and have found this one to be
fairly accessible. It's not perfect, but functionality has gotten
appreciably better with JAWS 2021 and Windows 10.

My other positive Fidelity experience came 10-15 years ago, when two
different clients allowed me to serve as a third-party agent so I had
the authority to adjust their 401(k) plan, which Fidelity had official
custody of. I had no problem reallocating mutual fund positions, or
even buying stocks, on my clients' behalf using the Fidelity platform,
even though Fidelity was not native to any other part of my day-to-day
work. My point is that it felt very natural to use that particular
version of Fidelity's retail platform back in the 2005-2010 period, as
it took me no time at all to train myself on where to find things on
the screen, etc.

Take my observations for what they are worth. I have no idea how good
the Fidelity interface is in 2021 re accessibility.

I will follow this thread with great interest.

Kind regards,

-Kane






moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

I thought it also does other things, do you know what the update has added or changed?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 6:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Emre Rencber

Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 6:11 AM

Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

 

What is Silenzio?

2021-04-02 15:48 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@...>:
> Hi All,
>
> I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I
> downloaded and installed it.  I don't know where Windows-10 got this update
>
> from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available.  I couldn't find a
> download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzz68m7o9q6qjy/Silenzio_2.0_setup.zip?dl=1
>
>
>
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
>
>
>
>
>
>




moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Emre Rencber
 

Thank you very much for information. I need this program.

2021-04-02 16:13 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com>:

Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which
will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Emre Rencber
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out


What is Silenzio?

2021-04-02 15:48 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com>:
Hi All,

I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I
downloaded and installed it. I don't know where Windows-10 got this
update

from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available. I couldn't find a
download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzz68m7o9q6qjy/Silenzio_2.0_setup.zip?dl=1




Stay safe and take care. Mike.














moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Mike B.
 


Silenzio is a small utility that will continuously play a WAV file which will not let your computer's soundcard sleep.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

What is Silenzio?

2021-04-02 15:48 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@...>:
> Hi All,
>
> I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I
> downloaded and installed it.  I don't know where Windows-10 got this update
>
> from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available.  I couldn't find a
> download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzz68m7o9q6qjy/Silenzio_2.0_setup.zip?dl=1
>
>
>
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
>
>
>
>
>
>





moderated Re: Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Emre Rencber
 

What is Silenzio?

2021-04-02 15:48 GMT+03:00, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com>:

Hi All,

I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I
downloaded and installed it. I don't know where Windows-10 got this update

from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available. I couldn't find a
download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzz68m7o9q6qjy/Silenzio_2.0_setup.zip?dl=1




Stay safe and take care. Mike.






moderated Silenzio 2.0 is Out

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
I ran updates last night and discovered that Silenzio 2.0 was out, so I downloaded and installed it.  I don't know where Windows-10 got this update from, but if Win-10 found it, it must be available.  I couldn't find a download link for it so here's a Dropbox link for it.
 
 
 
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated Re: Webmail and buttons not reading for different versions of jaws

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi, 

the first thing I would check is to deactivating settings by using the alternate user mode. In German keyboard layout the hot key is JAWS+Space, then pressing Z. This turns this mode on. To turn the mode of press the same hot key again. Perhaps in English keyboard layout there's another hot key, I don't know this. This sets the settings to default values so you can find out if a setting causes this problem. 

Good luck
Udo 

Am 01.04.2021 um 22:27 schrieb Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...>:

Hi all,
 
I did an accessibility test on the webmail client RoundCube and found something quite interesting. To my knowledge RoundCube is up to date; I’m running all the latest versions of Jaws, MS Edge and Windows. I’m able to see all the buttons on the page and when I list links I get all of my email messages. My testing partner is running jaws 2020.2012 and the latest versions of Windows and Edge, he cannot see the buttons, jaws only reports “button”. Our jaws graphic settings are set the same, to “labeled graphics”.  
 
Anyone have any ideas?
 
Thank you,
Sarah Hale
Work: 714.852.3238
 
 


moderated Re: some of this may be off topic. Sorry if it is.

Glenn / Lenny
 

Yes, I use VmWare on my windows 7, and I have Linux, and windows 10 running in it.
If there is no audio, on some computers, you have to go into sound properties and enable something, I forget what it is, but if anyone has no audio, I can show them how to enable it by looking in my audio settings  in control panel.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: some of this may be off topic. Sorry if it is.

question is does jfw work with vmware? 

     I think so. But I am not sure.

There is a blind Raspberry pie list. I dont remember the address but you can google it.

On 4/1/2021 6:49 PM, Gery Gaubert wrote:

So when I retired my I.T. department gave me a raspberry pi.  I’m working on that but I also want to create a virtual drive on my PC to use vinus or Raspbian.  I am wondering if there is a way to use vmware or something similar to do this.  The mqain question is does jfw work with vmware? 


moderated Re: some of this may be off topic. Sorry if it is.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

question is does jfw work with vmware? 

     I think so. But I am not sure.

There is a blind Raspberry pie list. I dont remember the address but you can google it.

On 4/1/2021 6:49 PM, Gery Gaubert wrote:

So when I retired my I.T. department gave me a raspberry pi.  I’m working on that but I also want to create a virtual drive on my PC to use vinus or Raspbian.  I am wondering if there is a way to use vmware or something similar to do this.  The mqain question is does jfw work with vmware? 


moderated Re: Need Help Reorienting to New Version of JFW Home

Bill White
 

Hi, Dani. The version is the same as the old one. It just looks different because you probably don't have JAWS run from the system tray. Try going to the JAWS window, press ALT plus O for Options, press ENTER on Basic, and check the option for having JAWS run from the System Tray. Then all your options will probably show up.

In case you want to leave it the way it is,
From the JAWS window,

ALT plus O for Options,

ALT plus U for Utilities,

ALT plus H for Help,

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Help Reorienting to New Version of JFW Home

Hi, Guys.
Voc Rehab recently purchased a new version of JFW Home for me. I went
from JFW2018 to 2021, something called Home Manual, and the new
version looks nothing like the old. The only thing in the menu seems
to be Options or Exit, and the only thing under Options is an About
section.

How do I go about learning this new version?

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Need Help Reorienting to New Version of JFW Home

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Guys.
Voc Rehab recently purchased a new version of JFW Home for me. I went
from JFW2018 to 2021, something called Home Manual, and the new
version looks nothing like the old. The only thing in the menu seems
to be Options or Exit, and the only thing under Options is an About
section.

How do I go about learning this new version?

Thanks,
Dani


moderated some of this may be off topic. Sorry if it is.

Gery Gaubert
 

So when I retired my I.T. department gave me a raspberry pi.  I’m working on that but I also want to create a virtual drive on my PC to use vinus or Raspbian.  I am wondering if there is a way to use vmware or something similar to do this.  The mqain question is does jfw work with vmware? 

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