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gmail mass deletion jaws issue

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. go to the gmail site, sign in, try to use the jaws find feature Select all and cannot find the select all button. Want to delete mass e-mails and did look at brian’s vogel tutorial how to do this.

So not working, see if the other browsers see this, will try google chrome, internet explorer. If it does not show up. Are there any external programs you recommend, which will allow me to do a search, and then a mass deletion, to the trash, then empty the trash.

Any ideas.

Using jaws 18.0.2345 64 bit , windows 10 64 bit pro version 1703, and firefox 52, and google chrome 44, think latest version. So will try those other browsers. If same issue. Unless have to try with nvda, see if it will bring that up.

Any ideas.

Thanks.

               


JFW13 and Punctuation in Say All Mode when Reading a .PDF

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW13 and Win 7. I need to proofread a Braille document for
a transcription course, and its original source that it was
transcribed from is a .pdf. I was thinking I could use JFW's Say All
function to read the .pdf while I read the Braille to proof for
mistakes. I saw an option to get JFW to read whether something is
capitalized. But I didn't see anything relating to punctuation. Is
there something I can use or change to get punctuation to be read
aloud?

Thanks,
Dani


Re: OCR?

Carol Smith
 

Hi Sieghard,

When I was trying to do this the other day, everybody kept trying to tell me that I could only use the OCR function after I opened a scanned image in Adobe.  Now that you have given me the complete set of availability and keystorkes, I might go back and see if I can now read my picture text that I received.  Thank you for this. 

Carol


On 6/3/2017 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Carol,

 

What you say about Convenient OCR not being able to convert images on the screen is not entirely correct.

It is correct hat the command Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O and D requires focus to be in Adobe Reader with a PDF open.

However, if you open any image in any program such as Windows Photo Viewer and said image has focus on the screen, you can use the command to perform OCR on either the entire screen or the Window, instead of "D" for "document" you would use "S" for Screen or "W" for "Window. Of course first you press the layered keystroke to bring up Convenient OCR, then follow it by "S" or "W", there is also the option for "C" which recognizes any controls you may have focused on like a graphical button.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR?

 

Hi Richard,

Tom is correct in what he said.  If you were a Window-Eyes subscriber, you also need to know that the Jaws Convenient OCR program is for reading PDF files that are not shown in Adobe products, in other words, the image files that are scanned in and created as documents.  For example, this program can not convert images that are on the screen.  If this was not what you are looking for, simply ignore my message, grin.  Have a nice weekend. 

Carol

On 6/3/2017 8:14 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Just hit the jaws key and the space bar, followed by O for OCR, and D for document.

 

Give it a little time, and Convenient OCR should create an accessible text file for you if the document you are working with can be successfully converted.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR?

 

How does one use the built-in OCR in JAWS 18?

 

Richard

 

 



Re: OCR?

 

Hi Carol,

 

What you say about Convenient OCR not being able to convert images on the screen is not entirely correct.

It is correct hat the command Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O and D requires focus to be in Adobe Reader with a PDF open.

However, if you open any image in any program such as Windows Photo Viewer and said image has focus on the screen, you can use the command to perform OCR on either the entire screen or the Window, instead of "D" for "document" you would use "S" for Screen or "W" for "Window. Of course first you press the layered keystroke to bring up Convenient OCR, then follow it by "S" or "W", there is also the option for "C" which recognizes any controls you may have focused on like a graphical button.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR?

 

Hi Richard,

Tom is correct in what he said.  If you were a Window-Eyes subscriber, you also need to know that the Jaws Convenient OCR program is for reading PDF files that are not shown in Adobe products, in other words, the image files that are scanned in and created as documents.  For example, this program can not convert images that are on the screen.  If this was not what you are looking for, simply ignore my message, grin.  Have a nice weekend. 

Carol

On 6/3/2017 8:14 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Just hit the jaws key and the space bar, followed by O for OCR, and D for document.

 

Give it a little time, and Convenient OCR should create an accessible text file for you if the document you are working with can be successfully converted.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR?

 

How does one use the built-in OCR in JAWS 18?

 

Richard

 

 


Re: OCR?

Carol Smith
 

Hi Richard,

Tom is correct in what he said.  If you were a Window-Eyes subscriber, you also need to know that the Jaws Convenient OCR program is for reading PDF files that are not shown in Adobe products, in other words, the image files that are scanned in and created as documents.  For example, this program can not convert images that are on the screen.  If this was not what you are looking for, simply ignore my message, grin.  Have a nice weekend. 

Carol

On 6/3/2017 8:14 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Just hit the jaws key and the space bar, followed by O for OCR, and D for document.

 

Give it a little time, and Convenient OCR should create an accessible text file for you if the document you are working with can be successfully converted.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR?

 

How does one use the built-in OCR in JAWS 18?

 

Richard

 



Re: GoldWave

John Covici
 

I found some scripts at jaws-users.com, but they don't do very much
and there seems to be no documentation. Basically, they enhance what
some of the keys say, but I ddidn't see any new keys -- if I am wrong
please someone correct me.


On Sat, 03 Jun 2017 16:53:45 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

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Greetings,

I am a new Jaws user.

Are there hotkeys for Jaws to read various elements in GoldWave such as, length, current position, etc.?

If there are free scripts, where does one find them?

Thanks,

Richard

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: OCR?

Tom Behler
 

Just hit the jaws key and the space bar, followed by O for OCR, and D for document.

 

Give it a little time, and Convenient OCR should create an accessible text file for you if the document you are working with can be successfully converted.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR?

 

How does one use the built-in OCR in JAWS 18?

 

Richard

 


OCR?

Richard Turner
 

How does one use the built-in OCR in JAWS 18?

 

Richard

 


GoldWave

Richard Turner
 

Greetings,

 

I am a new Jaws user.

Are there hotkeys for Jaws to read various elements in GoldWave such as, length, current position, etc.?

If there are free scripts, where does one find them?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: On Line Banking Update

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Shannon,

I do not need to find that box in order to complete a transaction now, as it is set to checking, and draws the funds from there automatically. I created another transaction to check, and the confirm page/button did come up but still JAWS did not report a select account option box. I will  get a sighted friend to check for me at the next opportunity.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: June 2, 2017 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Banking Update

 

Thanks for the update,

So if that is not reported by JAWS how do you know that it is there without another pair of eyes? Are you still left on your own to wait? Or did this lesson teach you how to find the account choice area so that doesn’t happen and be able to complete the transaction?

Thanks

Shannon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 9:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Bankingg Update

 

Hello Shannon,

I wrote to the help line on the site, first I received an instruction to insure I pressed the confirmation button. Then I replied that it was not coming up and that I was using a screen reader. I was told that the issue was probably particular to my software, and was left to my own devices, so I wrote to the technical help address on the site,  and during our email exchange I offered to come into the branch laptop in  tow. Actually all I really needed was sighted assistance to report the account selection box that JAWS did not.

The best advice I could give after this is to use the insert control and L for list, T for table, B for button etc., And sadly, sighted assistance when you are stuck.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: June 1, 2017 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: On Line Bankingg Update

 

Hi Kevin, I've been watching the saga. I'm glad you figured out the problem, but how did you solve it?

I have issues finding controlthings on my banking site as well. Just wondering what the tricks and tips are. Thanks Shannon

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

Hello All,

Problem solved; when I pressed the “Pay Bills” button a little box came  up asking if it was to come from checking or savings, which JAWS did not recognize.  

Cheers Kevin


Re: Locating Realspeak Voices

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Is there a place where I can find SAPI 5 compatible voices?

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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Locating Realspeak Voices

Those voices are locked to JAWS and not sapi5 compatible.

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Re: Locating Realspeak Voices

Chris G <jedikent@...>
 

Those voices are locked to JAWS and not sapi5 compatible.

Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
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Twitter: MysticAccess
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Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
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Locating Realspeak Voices

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
Where do I locate the .dat files for the Realspeak voices I've installed on my computer? I know they've been installed into JAWS, but where to locate them, I'm not sure. I want to add them to work with the SAPI 5 Engine and Narrator, as well as the Goldwave Speech Converter. How do I do this?

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Re: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS

Dave Durber
 

Hello Jene:

After I installed the new version of Windows 7 Professional, I immediately installed JFW. Somehow or other, I have no idea how, Windows 7 Professional adopted the Fs Mirror Driver as the default Display Driver. The result is that the monitor shows nothing, it is black. It is as if someone set both the background and foreground colours to black, thus getting black on black.

Someone at FS Tech Support, suggested I uninstall the FS Mirror Driver and reboot the computer and then perform a Repair on JFW. Obviously, he pointed out that JFW would complain when the system restarted, which it did, so I pressed OK to close the window.

I performed the two suggestions but, after I performed the repair on JFW, the FS Mirror driver did not reappear. I took the drastic step and uninstalled JFW, including the Shared components. After the deletion was completed, I followed the instruction to restart the computer in order to complete the procedure. When the computer restarted, I reinstalled JFW, only to find that the FS Mirror Driver was still the default driver but, when a friend looked at the monitor, they said that the monitor was no longer showing as black. Now, however, she said that it looked like a weired modernistic painting, with vertical and horrizontal lines with some blobs interspersed with the lines.

Someone suggested changing the Windows Theme to Windows Classic, Which is what I have done. Unfortunately, we have had no one with site available to look at the screen to see if the suggestion has made any difference.

One final comment, the Device Manager in Window XP and Windows 7 Pro, are identical, so it is more than possible that Device Manager is the same in Windows 8 and Windows 10.

If you have any suggestions or ideas, they will be very much appreciated.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Stevens" <guy.stevens@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS


Ok... it's been a while since I used Windows 7. So tell me how you get that it is using the FS driver as the quote default display driver?

I can't remember the Windows 7 device manager well enough to be sure but on Windows 10 doesn't have a 1uote default driver that I can find. It simply lists the FS driver and the driver for the video hardware currently in use.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS


Hello David:

I did look in Device Manager! And yes, both drivers are listed. And by the way, when I downloaded and installed the updates from Microsoft, included among them was a specific driver for the particular model of the toshiba laptop but, despite downloading and installing the updated driver, Windows has chosen to keep the Freedom Scientific Mirror Driver as the default graphics driver.

Yes, the monitor does work!

Thank you for your suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "david" <davidmac1957@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS


Hello there, it's probably best to go to the manufacturer's web site,
For any drivers,
Also, did you check in the device manager to see if the video drivers are
there?
Is it possible that the screen is not functioning?
If you installed windows the generic drivers should have been installed.


Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Driver update utility which is useable with JAWS

Hello everyone:

Well, the subject says it all. I have recently acquired a Toshiba Laptop,
which is about 4 years old.

I used a talking install of Windows 7 Professional to install said operating
system.

I Then installed JAWS 14.

I have downloaded and installed all the updates for said operating system.

In addition, I installed Java and Flash Player.

Our next door neighbour came in the other day and told me that the
computer's monitor was black.

I downloaded a driver update utility, which indicated that the Freedom
scientific Mirror Driver was being used by Windows 7 as the default video
driver.

Unfortunately, unlike audio devices which might be connected, either
internally or externally to a computer, where you can choose which audio
device is the default sound card, it appears, that the same capability is
not available for choosing which display/video driver should be the default
device.

So far, I have tried two driver download utilities, neither is very
accessible or easy to use with JAWS. One of which, using the JAWS cursor, I
can find and click the "Update Drivers" button but, I cannot insert the
License key to register the program.

The other, I could register the program but, after clicking the button to
start the driver download process, there is a confirmation box which opens
with "yes" and "no" buttons. I tried clicking the "Yes" button with the JAWS
left mouse button, only to be met with the Windows Ding sound. I pressed the
ENTER key, hoping that would acknowledge the confirmation to start the
download, only to be returned to the Desktop.

So, I come to the fund of knowledge, where, hopefully, there are members on
this list, who can suggest/recommend such a utility which, if not 100 %
user-friendly using JAWS, can be used without too much difficulty.

I am hoping that such a utility can detect the correct display/video driver,
download, install it and change the setting in Windows to make sure that the
new display/video driver is the default driver, with the result that
readable text will be displayed on the screen instead of the screen being
black.

Thank you in advance

Sincerely:

Dave Durber








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Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

Carol Smith
 

Yes, I am used to that hot key, but it did not work in this particular situation..Thanks.

Carol



On 6/3/2017 3:46 PM, Melissa Stott wrote:

Ok, try pressing Control+W.  That should close the messages. That’s what I had to do when I was using Thunderbird.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

 

Hi,

 

In response, that reminded me that I did not give all of the

information.  I tried pressing the escape key to get out of the unspoken

email.  It did not close the message, but it did say I, believe, virtual

cursor.  At any rate, I could not get out of the message without doing

an alt-f4 to close the message.  Sometimes, the only way to get out of

the problem, because I end up with no speach, is to close Jaws.  Funny

thing about that is that Jaws says closing Jaws.

 

Carol

 

 

 

On 6/3/2017 1:47 PM, Robert Logue wrote:

> Can't help but I've had that problem too.  It is as if Jaws won't turn

> on the virtual cursor. When I press numpad plus to chec Jaws says pc

> cursor. I also make sure to toggle the virtual cursor on with insert z.

> Bob

> On 2017-06-03 5:30 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

>> Hello Group Members,

>> 

>> I am running Win7 PC with Jaws 18 and have a problem wherein when

>> reading messages in Thunderbird, I press enter on a message and

>> everything is fine for a number of messages.  Then, all of a sudden,

>> Jaws will read the subject line and add something about where my

>> email files are stored and then, there is no more speech.  Sometimes,

>> well, at least twice, it worked for me to invoke the touch cursor and

>> then the PC cursor and Jaws would read the email.

>> 

>> I can tab out of the email and Jaws will read everything else, but

>> going back to the email message, there is no speech.  It is not

>> related to one message, as I can go back to a message that was

>> already read and it will have the same issue.

>> 

>> The only way I have found to solve the issue is to unload Jaws and

>> start it up again.

>> 

>> Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes, I

>> will reload and only get through a couple of messages before this

>> happens again.  At other times, I can do all of my email, often with

>> over 100 messages with no trouble at all.

>> 

>> Thank you.

>> 

>> Carol

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 



Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Ok, try pressing Control+W.  That should close the messages. That’s what I had to do when I was using Thunderbird.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

 

Hi,

 

In response, that reminded me that I did not give all of the

information.  I tried pressing the escape key to get out of the unspoken

email.  It did not close the message, but it did say I, believe, virtual

cursor.  At any rate, I could not get out of the message without doing

an alt-f4 to close the message.  Sometimes, the only way to get out of

the problem, because I end up with no speach, is to close Jaws.  Funny

thing about that is that Jaws says closing Jaws.

 

Carol

 

 

 

On 6/3/2017 1:47 PM, Robert Logue wrote:

> Can't help but I've had that problem too.  It is as if Jaws won't turn

> on the virtual cursor. When I press numpad plus to chec Jaws says pc

> cursor. I also make sure to toggle the virtual cursor on with insert z.

> Bob

> On 2017-06-03 5:30 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:

>> Hello Group Members,

>> 

>> I am running Win7 PC with Jaws 18 and have a problem wherein when

>> reading messages in Thunderbird, I press enter on a message and

>> everything is fine for a number of messages.  Then, all of a sudden,

>> Jaws will read the subject line and add something about where my

>> email files are stored and then, there is no more speech.  Sometimes,

>> well, at least twice, it worked for me to invoke the touch cursor and

>> then the PC cursor and Jaws would read the email.

>> 

>> I can tab out of the email and Jaws will read everything else, but

>> going back to the email message, there is no speech.  It is not

>> related to one message, as I can go back to a message that was

>> already read and it will have the same issue.

>> 

>> The only way I have found to solve the issue is to unload Jaws and

>> start it up again.

>> 

>> Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes, I

>> will reload and only get through a couple of messages before this

>> happens again.  At other times, I can do all of my email, often with

>> over 100 messages with no trouble at all.

>> 

>> Thank you.

>> 

>> Carol

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

Carol Smith
 

It doesn't seem to matter what is open for me to lose speach.

Carol



On 6/3/2017 1:49 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
That only happens to me if I have Winamp open along with my email.


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Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 6/3/2017 1:47 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Can't help but I've had that problem too.  It is as if Jaws won't turn on the virtual cursor. When I press numpad plus to chec Jaws says pc cursor. I also make sure to toggle the virtual cursor on with insert z.


Bob

On 2017-06-03 5:30 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Group Members,

I am running Win7 PC with Jaws 18 and have a problem wherein when reading messages in Thunderbird, I press enter on a message and everything is fine for a number of messages.  Then, all of a sudden, Jaws will read the subject line and add something about where my email files are stored and then, there is no more speech.  Sometimes, well, at least twice, it worked for me to invoke the touch cursor and then the PC cursor and Jaws would read the email.

I can tab out of the email and Jaws will read everything else, but going back to the email message, there is no speech.  It is not related to one message, as I can go back to a message that was already read and it will have the same issue.

The only way I have found to solve the issue is to unload Jaws and start it up again.

Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes, I will reload and only get through a couple of messages before this happens again.  At other times, I can do all of my email, often with over 100 messages with no trouble at all.

Thank you.

Carol
















Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

Carol Smith
 

Hi,

In response, that reminded me that I did not give all of the information. I tried pressing the escape key to get out of the unspoken email. It did not close the message, but it did say I, believe, virtual cursor. At any rate, I could not get out of the message without doing an alt-f4 to close the message. Sometimes, the only way to get out of the problem, because I end up with no speach, is to close Jaws. Funny thing about that is that Jaws says closing Jaws.

Carol

On 6/3/2017 1:47 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Can't help but I've had that problem too. It is as if Jaws won't turn on the virtual cursor. When I press numpad plus to chec Jaws says pc cursor. I also make sure to toggle the virtual cursor on with insert z.


Bob

On 2017-06-03 5:30 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Group Members,

I am running Win7 PC with Jaws 18 and have a problem wherein when reading messages in Thunderbird, I press enter on a message and everything is fine for a number of messages. Then, all of a sudden, Jaws will read the subject line and add something about where my email files are stored and then, there is no more speech. Sometimes, well, at least twice, it worked for me to invoke the touch cursor and then the PC cursor and Jaws would read the email.

I can tab out of the email and Jaws will read everything else, but going back to the email message, there is no speech. It is not related to one message, as I can go back to a message that was already read and it will have the same issue.

The only way I have found to solve the issue is to unload Jaws and start it up again.

Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes, I will reload and only get through a couple of messages before this happens again. At other times, I can do all of my email, often with over 100 messages with no trouble at all.

Thank you.

Carol







Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?

Tony
 

I’ve had the bloat problem in the past but this workstation came with very little of it.  Most of the bloat came with Windows.  I have downloaded the 1703 installation file and will probably install it after Dell finishes determining why my audio disappears from time to time.  I don’t want to give them any excuses to stop working on the problem.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?

 

I should have mentioned that bothmy laptops have SSD

‘s, the old one came with a regular hard drive at the time, but I upgraded it immediately to an SSD, my new Asus Zenbook which compared to the old Acer is a pretty high-end computer, came with 16 Gb of RAM and a 512 SSD. It came with Windows 10 Home which I have since upgraded to Pro via a paid upgrade. I could have simply installed Windows 10 Pro from scratch, but this laptop unlike many others I have bought in the past came with more or less no preinstalled junk or bloatware and it ran so good out of the box that I didn’t feel it would make a difference.

I heard Del is a bit known for putting all sorts of stuff on their machines and if it’s a real concern I still think installing from scratch is your best option.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?

 

It is a new machine with little junk installed.  Both Microsoft Disability Support and Dell Pro Support have looked at it.  Microsoft said wait for the 1703 update.  I did, it got worse.  Dell is still trying to figure out what is going on.

 

The Dell tech is pretty knowledgable and has solved a couple of Dell driver problems.  I’ll point out to her that your machine, which should be a bit slower based on the SSD, takes only about half the time my machine takes to boot.

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?

 

You might want to reinstall Windows 10 then, I have both a 5-year old Acer laptop with an iI5 processor from backthen and a new Asus Zenbook with an I7 Skylake processor, both have Windows 10 Creator’s Update and Jaws 18 and while the old Acer takes maybe a bit longer, both boot very fast. If my Asus is shut down and I press the button to turn it on it takes about 10 seconds for it to boot to the password/PIN prompt, then after I enter my PIN the desktop visually is there in about 2 or 3 seconds, Jaws takes maybe another 6 or 8 seconds to speak.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?

 

There are times when Windows is busy cleaning up some mess or finishing updates that take longer than expected.

 

My old machine was taking 4 minutes to jaws speech.  It was not a slow machine but had been running for two years without much in the way of cleanup.  I installed a SSD and the boot time dropped to24 seconds without making any other changes.

 

My new Xeon Win 10machine with a faster SSD and more RAM takes twice as long to boot.  So much for progress.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Speeding up the JAWS starting time?

 

I got a slight scare earlier this morning.  I restarted the computer and there was no JAWS starting up.  NVDA started up on the login screen but then went silent.  JAWS finally came on.  My question is, is there anyway to get it to come on quicker?  Honestly, I could have drank a cup of coffee waiting for JAWS to start speaking. 


Re: problem with Jaws and, at least, Thunderbird

Maria Campbell
 

That only happens to me if I have Winamp open along with my email.


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On 6/3/2017 1:47 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Can't help but I've had that problem too. It is as if Jaws won't turn on the virtual cursor. When I press numpad plus to chec Jaws says pc cursor. I also make sure to toggle the virtual cursor on with insert z.


Bob

On 2017-06-03 5:30 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Group Members,

I am running Win7 PC with Jaws 18 and have a problem wherein when reading messages in Thunderbird, I press enter on a message and everything is fine for a number of messages. Then, all of a sudden, Jaws will read the subject line and add something about where my email files are stored and then, there is no more speech. Sometimes, well, at least twice, it worked for me to invoke the touch cursor and then the PC cursor and Jaws would read the email.

I can tab out of the email and Jaws will read everything else, but going back to the email message, there is no speech. It is not related to one message, as I can go back to a message that was already read and it will have the same issue.

The only way I have found to solve the issue is to unload Jaws and start it up again.

Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes, I will reload and only get through a couple of messages before this happens again. At other times, I can do all of my email, often with over 100 messages with no trouble at all.

Thank you.

Carol