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Re: help with verbalizing items

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You might want to set on character and word. I have mine set on character, but if you want to hear the numbers like that, character and word would get it for you. Otherwise, you won't hear anything until you hit a Spacebar or punctuation.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

When I have my setting to characters, of course, it will do this, but I type fast enough that I prefer to use words. If I type something like dv-12345, I don't hear the numbers until I press enter, space or punctuation.

For some things, it is not a problem, but when editing numbers, I prefer to make certain I am entering them correctly, so I prefer to press 1 and hear 1 and then 2 , hear 2, etc. I just went back and made another couple of test changes. There does not seem to be a way to do what I am looking for. Thank you, though, for being so helpful. Doing these things are a good way to learn what type of things are found in different settings and how to use them.

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:26 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi again, Carol. My copy of JAWS echoes back numbers as they are typed, regardless of which setting Characters/Words/None is on with INSERT plus Two.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

Thank you very much. My main concern is when typing the numbers from
the keyboard. The reading is not a problem as much as I need to hear
what I am typing. I don't want all numbers spoken this way, grin. This
would have been a keyboard setting in Window-Eyes. I did find the
setting for echoing words and I have that set, but will this result in
echoing numbers as digits when being typed?

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:09 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. If you press the INSERT or JAWS key as it is sometimes called by JAWS users, with the number two on the numbers row, you can change whether JAWS echos back characters, words, or nothint at all. If it is set to echo words, the word will be spoken right after pressing the space bar, or a punctuation key.

As to setting numbers to be spoken as single digits, this setting is under JAWS Settings, INSERT plus six on the number row. Then navigate down to Text Processing, and change the setting to single digits, controlled by synthesizer. That should allow speaking of single digits.

I hope this helps you.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help with verbalizing items

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to have words spoken after pressing
space or punctuation or the spacebar. It was also possible to have each
digit of a number spoken immediately when typed, such as 123 being
echoed as 1 2 3. Is this possible with Jaws? Also, I read earlier that
someone had asked if there was a way to get Jaws to stop saying alt
tab. If that question was answered, I did not see a reply. Of course,
I have gone through over 300 email messages today, and it is very
possible I might have overlooked the reply. So, I am asking again,
grin. Thanks.

Carol




















Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Maria Campbell
 

You might try pressing insert v for quick settings, find reading options, find language detect change and press space bar for not checked if it is checked.


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On 5/20/2017 7:37 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode. When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there. I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer? I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect. I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again. This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol




Re: help with verbalizing items

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Mine does too.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

Hi again, Carol. My copy of JAWS echoes back numbers as they are typed, regardless of which setting Characters/Words/None is on with INSERT plus Two.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

Thank you very much. My main concern is when typing the numbers from the keyboard. The reading is not a problem as much as I need to hear what I am typing. I don't want all numbers spoken this way, grin. This would have been a keyboard setting in Window-Eyes. I did find the setting for echoing words and I have that set, but will this result in echoing numbers as digits when being typed?

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:09 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. If you press the INSERT or JAWS key as it is sometimes called by JAWS users, with the number two on the numbers row, you can change whether JAWS echos back characters, words, or nothint at all. If it is set to echo words, the word will be spoken right after pressing the space bar, or a punctuation key.

As to setting numbers to be spoken as single digits, this setting is under JAWS Settings, INSERT plus six on the number row. Then navigate down to Text Processing, and change the setting to single digits, controlled by synthesizer. That should allow speaking of single digits.

I hope this helps you.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help with verbalizing items

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to have words spoken after pressing
space or punctuation or the spacebar. It was also possible to have
each digit of a number spoken immediately when typed, such as 123
being echoed as 1 2 3. Is this possible with Jaws? Also, I read
earlier that someone had asked if there was a way to get Jaws to stop
saying alt tab. If that question was answered, I did not see a reply.
Of course, I have gone through over 300 email messages today, and it
is very possible I might have overlooked the reply. So, I am asking
again, grin. Thanks.

Carol












Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Mario
 

Carol, JAWSKey(insert)+spacebar then s to turn speech off or on.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:40 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have
their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take
care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having
to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol




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Re: numbering in lists, etc.

Don H
 

This will not give the list index when in the list of Emails in Thunderbird.

On 5/20/2017 8:38 AM, Mario wrote:
Carol, William, and anyone else, have you tried pressing JAWSKey+Tab?
this Says the current window and the associated prompt label, and
sometimes will include the number of the item's position in a list.
it'll be announced at the end since it repeats the item currently
selected. I wish someone would come up with a JAWS shortcut that
announces just the item's position instead of having to listen to the
entire selection. but for now, JAWSKey+tab will have to do.
-------- Original Message --------
From: William Vandervest [mailto:timelord09@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:27 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: numbering in lists, etc.
i have the same question
using win 10 1703 and windows live mail with jfw 18
thanks
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-----Original Message----- From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 07:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: numbering in lists, etc.
Hi,
Is there a way to get Jaws to say the item number in a list such as
email 32 of 345? I currently have no idea as to how many more email
messages I have to go through this morning, grin. Thank you.
Carol
.


Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Pablo Morales
 

You can press insert + space bar, then s to toggle speech off or on.
I am trying to do the opposite of what you want to do. I am wondering how did you do to make jaws speak on Kurzweil?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol


Re: numbering in lists, etc.

Mario
 

Carol, William, and anyone else, have you tried pressing JAWSKey+Tab?
this Says the current window and the associated prompt label, and
sometimes will include the number of the item's position in a list.
it'll be announced at the end since it repeats the item currently
selected. I wish someone would come up with a JAWS shortcut that
announces just the item's position instead of having to listen to the
entire selection. but for now, JAWSKey+tab will have to do.

-------- Original Message --------
From: William Vandervest [mailto:timelord09@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:27 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: numbering in lists, etc.

i have the same question
using win 10 1703 and windows live mail with jfw 18
thanks





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There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

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-----Original Message----- From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 07:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: numbering in lists, etc.

Hi,

Is there a way to get Jaws to say the item number in a list such as
email 32 of 345? I currently have no idea as to how many more email
messages I have to go through this morning, grin. Thank you.

Carol







.


Email client

Don H
 

Which Email clients work best with JAWS? I do not have outlook. Currently using Thunderbird.
Thanks


Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

Not sure what is going on with the email problem.
For the pronunciation dictionary, however, the tool is very powerful, but that can sometimes be the problem.
Before changing the pronunciation of a word, be sure your cursor is on the first character of the word.
It may not be necessary, but I route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor before invoking the pronunciation dictionary hotkey.
Then, press Jaws Key + d (for dictionary).
I usually have to tab a couple of times to get "add" into focus. Then, press SpaceBar.
Now the word whose pronunciation needs changing should be in an edit box.
Double-check it. I always ensure there are no trailing spaces, but I don't think that's necessary either.
Then, press tab to the edit box where you change the spelling of the word so it sounds right.
Then, usually, tab across to OK. Along the way, check to see that all the options are set correctly, including whether the pronunciation change is case sensitive. That should be off by default, but ...
Now comes the part I sometimes forget. Be sure to "save" the file.
Just to be certain, I always save twice -- when I remember.
Then, exit the pronunciation dictionary.
That usually works.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting rid of annoying speech

OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode.
When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there. I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer? I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect. I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again. This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol






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getting rid of annoying speech

Carol Smith
 

OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode. When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there. I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer? I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect. I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again. This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol


Re: help with verbalizing items

Carol Smith
 

Grin!  I guess that is one of those small changes I am making an adjustment to. ;)  At least, I am trying!

Carol



On 5/20/2017 1:01 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi,

Unfortunately, you cannot hear every character sometimes, and just hear words other times. You can only choose between hear characters, words, charactors and words all of the time, or nothing LOL! That would be nice if you could hear just words, but numbers one at a time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

 

When I have my setting to characters, of course, it will do this, but I

type fast enough that I prefer to use words.  If I type something like

dv-12345, I don't hear the numbers until I press enter, space or

punctuation.

 

For some things, it is not a problem, but when editing numbers, I prefer

to make certain I am entering them correctly, so I prefer to press 1 and

hear 1 and then 2 , hear 2, etc.  I just went back and made another

couple of test changes.  There does not seem to be a way to do what I am

looking for.  Thank you, though, for being so helpful.  Doing these

things are a good way to learn what type of things are found in

different settings and how to use them.

 

Carol

 

 

On 5/19/2017 9:26 PM, Bill White wrote:

> Hi again, Carol. My copy of JAWS echoes back numbers as they are typed, regardless of which setting Characters/Words/None is on with INSERT plus Two.

> Bill White

> Billwhite92701@...

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:23 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

> Thank you very much.  My main concern is when typing the numbers from

> the keyboard.  The reading is not a problem as much as I need to hear

> what I am typing.  I don't want all numbers spoken this way, grin.  This

> would have been a keyboard setting in Window-Eyes.  I did find the

> setting for echoing words and I have that set, but will this result in

> echoing numbers as digits when being typed?

> Carol

> On 5/19/2017 9:09 PM, Bill White wrote:

>> Hi, Carol. If you press the INSERT or JAWS key as it is sometimes called by JAWS users, with the number two on the numbers row, you can change whether JAWS echos back characters, words, or nothint at all. If it is set to echo words, the word will be spoken right after pressing the space bar, or a punctuation key.

>> 

>> As to setting numbers to be spoken as single digits, this setting is under JAWS Settings, INSERT plus six on the number row. Then navigate down to Text Processing, and change the setting to single digits, controlled by synthesizer. That should allow speaking of single digits.

>> 

>> I hope this helps you.

>> 

>> Bill White

>> Billwhite92701@...

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io

>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:32 PM

>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>> Subject: help with verbalizing items

>> 

>> In Window-Eyes, it was possible to have words spoken after pressing

>> space or punctuation or the spacebar.  It was also possible to have each

>> digit of a number spoken immediately when typed, such as 123 being

>> echoed as 1 2 3.  Is this possible with Jaws?  Also, I read earlier that

>> someone had asked if there was a way to get Jaws to stop saying alt

>> tab.  If that question was answered, I did not see a reply.  Of course,

>> I have gone through over 300 email messages today, and it is very

>> possible I might have overlooked the reply. So, I am asking again,

>> grin.  Thanks.

>> 

>> Carol

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 



Re: web page search

David Moore
 

Hi Don and Carol.

It is just the opposite for me. On a web page, I only have to press CTRL+F!

In a file, like even a note pad document, I have to press the Insert+CTRL+F. So Don, try it both ways. It is funny that it works one way for Carol and another way for me. If you only press CTRL+F in a word document, you activate the find dialog in Word instead of JAWS. To do the JAWS find in a Word Document, you have to press Insert+CTRL+F. You always press only CTRL+F on a web site.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: web page search

 

Hi Don,

 

If you are searching in a file, it is ctrl plus F.  If you are searching

a web page or something like that, it is ctrl-insert-f. Hope this helps.

 

Carol

 

 

 

On 5/19/2017 3:49 PM, Don H wrote:

> With a web page open, is there a way to search for a word and

> automatically move to that place on the page?

> Thanks

>

 

 

 

 


Re: jfw and wlm

David Moore
 

Hi,

Just do the say line command:

Insert+up arrow

Take care.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: William Vandervest
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jfw and wlm

 

how do i get jaws to tell me thet i am looking at (for example ) message 35 of 72?

thanks

 

 

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There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See

William and Leader Dog Lynerd

 


New to this group but Not to the Jaws program

Portia Mason
 

My name is Portia and I have been a Jaws since the beginning. But, since using the newer version of Jaws which is 18, there are programs I want to use but don’t know all the commands or how to use them. I will definitely have a lot of questions for you.

I have tried to get into the help section of the jaws program but having difficulty using it altogether.

So, I figure joining this group will help me with getting some basic steps to some of the programs.

 


jfw and wlm

William Vandervest
 

how do i get jaws to tell me thet i am looking at (for example ) message 35 of 72?
thanks
 
 
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Re: web page search

Carol Smith
 

Hi Don,

If you are searching in a file, it is ctrl plus F. If you are searching a web page or something like that, it is ctrl-insert-f. Hope this helps.

Carol

On 5/19/2017 3:49 PM, Don H wrote:
With a web page open, is there a way to search for a word and automatically move to that place on the page?
Thanks



silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol Smith
 

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol


Re: key labels

Carol Smith
 

insert number row 6 (settings center)
press ctrl-shift-d to make changes for all programs or the program that was running before you did this will be the only one affected.
type lab in the edit box.
Tab once to get into the list of key labels.
Press t for tab.
Tab to the mute button and press enter.
Tab to OK and Press Enter.
You may need to alt-f4 to close the settings center.

Carol

On 5/19/2017 12:37 PM, Don H wrote:
How do I stop such things as the tab key from saying tab when pressed?
Thanks



Re: adding voices

Carol Smith
 

Insert plus j, options, voices, voice profile, tab through and make any changes, tab to OK and press enter, finally, there will be a yes or no asking if you want to make the voice your default, yes.

Carol

On 5/19/2017 12:02 PM, Don H wrote:
OK so I got the voices to work as you described and I thank you for that. I now have the vocalizer Tom High voice as my default syn. However when I open the Jaws UI with insert j I am switched back to another voice. Any way to get the voice to work everywhere?


On 5/19/2017 9:05 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:
I'm so glad this seems counterintuitive to you. This comes up periodically on this list. I think I'm the last to have encountered this problem. There were lots of good suggestions, but NONE worked.
Technical Support at Freedom Scientific walked me through the following.
I'm guessing you are talking about the Vocalizer Expressive 2 voices. They actually don't show up anywhere one would expect.
Go to the JAWS menu (JawsKey + J), then activate the "Options."
After that, go to the Voice Adjustment menu.
You will see some software synthesizers, including Eloquence.
You will have a Vocalizer Expressive Voice Installed. You probably already had one installed. So, it looks like nothing happened. Well, that may be true, but it probably is just the counterintuitive way Freedom Scientific set this up. I'm guessing you are looking for Susan, Allison, or one of the other voice persons. They are there; they are just hidden. Arrow down to the Vocalizer Expressive synthesizer. Then press Alt + V. You might have to tab once (I don't remember specifically, but you are not more than two tabs away after you hit Alt + V).
I think you can now arrow up and down to pick your voice, e.g., Susan or Alison. Arrow down to pick the voice you want to use (at least part of the time).
Then, DO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF ALL! Tab over, way over, until you come to a "Save As" prompt.
At that point save this "Person" as a synthesizer, e.g., SusanVoice or AlisonVoice.
Then hit apply and OK.
Now, when you do a voice adjustment, you will have synthesizers that match the name and settings for the "persons, e.g., SusanVoice."
By the way, you do this process EVEN if you downloaded the big files individually. Remember, the compressed voices all come in one file.
I'm guessing you downloaded the big files that are linked to the "person" names. That, in fact, is what fooled me.
I downloaded Susan, and I illogically thought I would find a file installed as Susan. NOT SO.
ALL the voices are tucked away in the Vocalizer Expressive menu.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding voices

I have download and installed the extra voices that I got from the fs web page. After a reboot they do not show up in the voices list in the Jaws UI. How do I get them to show up?
Thanks.




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key announce in jaws

William Vandervest
 

how do i tell jaws to stop announcing the controle and alt keys?
thanks
 
 
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