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Re: adding voices

Joseph Norton
 

If you were using Eloquence, you should be able to change voice profiles and they will show up.  However, you can’t have Vocalizer voices from version 1 installed with voices from Vocalizer version 2.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding voices

 

I have download and installed the extra voices that I got from the fs

web page.  After a reboot they do not show up in the voices list in the

Jaws UI.  How do I get them to show up?

Thanks.

 

 

 


test message - ignore

Morne van der Merwe
 

 


Old version of JAWS

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

Anyone have an old version of JAWS about 3.31 or thereabouts?  I’m trying to test some things on an old Win98 system.

 

 

I thought I had one of these around here, but, I did loose a whole lot of discs and other stuff in a house fire in 2007, so I probably do not have them anymore.

 

Thanks!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Turning off speech for modifier keys

Scott Wheat
 

Hi Sieghard,

For some reason my email didn't show up on the list until over 2 days after I sent it. So I did see your original post. Thanks for sending it again though. I now have things nearly working like I want

Scott
.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

I just posted it yesterday and so did somebody else. Go to Settings Centre, load the default configuration file, then search for "label". Expand the only selection that will be displayed which is key labels, then find the ones you don't want to hear and set them to "Mute" instead of "Speak" by pressing the spacebar.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott Wheat
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Turning off speech for modifier keys

 

Hello all,

 

How do I turn off speech for modifier keys? For example when I press alt-tab, ctrl-tab or windows-d etc. I don’t want to hear it.

I know I have seen this somewhere, but now can’t find it.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Scott

 


Re: JAWS scripts

Portia Mason
 

I do have a question regarding jaws Scripts. I installed some for my Skype. But, Skype still won't work for me. I had an issue with the latest of creator and it messed up a few things. I had to do a recovery and since doing that I can't still get Skype to work well for me.
Any ideas why it won't work?
Portia


cursors in jaws

Don H
 

I am trying to do my best in learning JAWS under the help and training sections listed in the JAWS user interface. If I understand it correctly there three cursor modes in JAWS. I can find no help topics discussing them and how to use them. Can someone lead me in the right direction to learn all about cursors in Jaws.
Thanks


Re: default settings

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

He sent the message by accident to the wrong list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: default settings

I thought this was about a JAWS problem, not a WinEyes problem.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: default settings

try reinstalling the tb enhanced app or the wineyes default globel settings first. this may fix the problems without reinstalling w e.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: default settings

Hi,

I don't know if it is my synthesizer or just what, but after a while, especially in Thunderbird, it takes as much as 10 seconds for Jaws to read anything I ask of it. How do I reset to factory default? I know I will lose a few things, but I'd rather do that now than after I get everything the way I want it. Thanks.

Carol


Re: New to this group but Not to the Jaws program

Portia Mason
 

Thank you and I am glad to be here.

Portia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New to this group but Not to the Jaws program

 

Welcome Portia!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: May 19, 2017 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New to this group but Not to the Jaws program

 

My name is Portia and I have been a Jaws since the beginning. But, since using the newer version of Jaws which is 18, there are programs I want to use but don’t know all the commands or how to use them. I will definitely have a lot of questions for you.

I have tried to get into the help section of the jaws program but having difficulty using it altogether.

So, I figure joining this group will help me with getting some basic steps to some of the programs.

 


Re: Email client

Portia Mason
 

I use outlook and it works fine for me.
Portia

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email client

Which Email clients work best with JAWS? I do not have outlook.
Currently using Thunderbird.
Thanks


Changing jaws language

Morne van der Merwe
 

Hello listers

 

I’m new to JAWS. I migrated from Window-eyes to jaws.  I want to change the jaws language from American English to British English. I go to jaws languages but it says “unavailable”. Is there a way to activate it?

 

Regards

Morne


script for goldwave version 6

John Covici
 

I am looking for the Jaws scripts for Goldwave version 6. I did a
Google search, but it revealed nothing.

Thanks in advance for any suggesitons.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Should you need to, press alt l for what language you’d like your word in, and tab over to what synthesizer to have speak your word. Of course, press the alt f4 to close and space to save your changes. Once again, play around withthis if you need to.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting rid of annoying speech

 

When you change word pronunciation, first thing, Press Shift-Control-D for default to all programs. Then Press Enter to add. Once you are satisfied with your selection, be sure to Tab to OK, then Save changes when you Exit the program.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting rid of annoying speech

OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open

an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode.
When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there.  I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer?  I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect.  I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again.  This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol







 


Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

If you want that word to be pluralized as you “make it sound” in the “replacement word” box of the dictionary manager, put a star on the “original word” box at the end of your word. This is a wildcard character which will automatically “see” the pluralized word and speak what you’d wanted its replacement to be. If you need an example, just play around with it and see what happens. The original word box is labeled, “actual word.”

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting rid of annoying speech

 

You can type in the word you want changed, once you have entered the dictionary and pressed the Spacebar. Then at the next tab stop comes the fun time of figuring out a word that will sound right. I went through before sending the email about going to OK and then saving, to make sure I gave the right instructions, and the word that I worked on was idolator - familiar to Bible readers - fun and games with that one to be sure.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Not sure what is going on with the email problem.
For the pronunciation dictionary, however, the tool is very powerful, but that can sometimes be the problem.
Before changing the pronunciation of a word, be sure your cursor is on the first character of the word.
It may not be necessary, but I route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor before invoking the pronunciation dictionary hotkey.
Then, press Jaws Key + d (for dictionary).
I usually have to tab a couple of times to get "add" into focus.  Then, press SpaceBar.
Now the word whose pronunciation needs changing should be in an edit box.
Double-check it.  I always ensure there are no trailing spaces, but I don't think that's necessary either.
Then, press tab to the edit box where you change the spelling of the word so it sounds right.
Then, usually, tab across to OK.  Along the way, check to see that all the options are set correctly, including whether the pronunciation change is case sensitive.  That should be off by default, but ...
Now comes the part I sometimes forget.  Be sure to "save" the file.
Just to be certain, I always save twice -- when I remember.
Then, exit the pronunciation dictionary.
That usually works.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting rid of annoying speech

OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode.
When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there.  I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer?  I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect.  I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again.  This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol






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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

JAWS will stll run without speech, so press insert f4 to close JAWS completely—note—make sure you can get ack to this screen reader/I suggest a hogkey to it ike CTL shift and j for JAWS.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

 

Carol, JAWSKey(insert)+spacebar then s to turn speech off or on.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady@...]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:40 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have
their own speech?  For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take
care of this.  I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having
to shut Jaws down completely.  Can this be done?  Thanks.

Carol




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Re: Facebook and messaging

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I have success with using messanger on the Facebook page although I use the computer version not mobile—I’m assuming that’s what you mean by M.facebook or however you put it? If you’re using JAWS, you should be able to just hit enter on your keyboard after going to messager and you can scroll through your messages. They’re listed in a table thing where the person’s message appears on the left column and some checkbox or something is in the right. I’ve found that if you click the person’s message, about twice—press enter and then spacebar, you’ll be on that person’s message. You can then do anything you want like viewing the messages in the conversation, going into the actions and either archiving/deleting/doing other stuff—this takes some work arounds but I’ve got that covered too. If you want to delete a message, you can hit enter or space on the action thing, arrow down to delete, and press enter again. However, to get into where you can delete things or archive them, you have to tab and arrow righyt to your selection before pressing space. It’s a bit of a pain, but that’s what I’ve seen to work so far. Need any more help, feel free to e-mail this list.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Facebook and messaging

 

Is there anyone using the m.facebook page, who has success with
messaging?  I don't have much success, and the messenger page more often
than not crashes when I try to open it after someone has sent me a
message.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.



--

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.


 


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I’d like to know two, Brian.  It shows a lot of buttons and at least 3 boxes that were heretofore not visible; wish I knew what they were.  This actually harks back to a discussion we were having about a year ago.  I guess I could try entering, but there’s no telling what I’m entering on.  This is supposed to be the fully-enabled version with Blu-ray support and resume.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Ted,

         If it's reasonably easy to describe how and when you use the touch cursor when using VLC I'd love to hear about it.  This is an area of JAWS that I still don't feel entirely comfortable with, and I doubt I'm alone in that.

          Real life examples, even if they're really simple ones, tend to illustrate concepts and points so much better than thousands of pages of abstract discussion does.
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Brian        Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: VFO Tech Support, was: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Now you guys see where I was going last week. As I said then, there's one in every crowd.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VFO Tech Support, was: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

Just thought I provide a quick update that I solved my problem without Jaws tech support, should have probably done so right away instead of spending 10 minutes on the phone argueing with this lady about how long Jaws has been around. In the end I simply decided to completely uninstall Jaws, I removed shared components since I don't have Openbook or anything like that installed, also removed all user settings after first exporting a backup copy. Then I reinstalled Jaws and before I imported my settings again I tried Sage 50 and another of my retail applications which wouldn't read and all was working as before. I then imported my settings and everything was still working fine. I have no idea what had gone wrong before, but it seems to be fixed.
When I tried to move the Jaws cursor down to the bottom of the screen before and it didn't seem to go there I used the Alt+NumPad Delete command to see where my Jaws cursor was located and it said vertically it was at "14" and it was stuck there. I made sure it was set to "unrestricted" but nothing I did made a difference. Oh well, in the end that only took about 15 or 20 minutes at the most so not too bad.
I just love it when sometimes these tech support people think everybody they talk to is a moron who has no clue and they try to convince you that this can't, in this case, possibly be a problem of Jaws, it must be because the application was updated and has changed or whatever. I told her I was running the 2014 version of Sage 50 because it works well and there have been no updates to it in almost 4 years, I have not changed anything on this PC except installing the Jaws 18.0.2740 update which she of course said couldn't possibly be the problem.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VFO Tech Support, was: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

Oh, Brian, thank you for these words! I once called Freedom Scientific Tech support and got one visually equipped person who could immediately help me because he could see what was going on. I later had a problem with the WordFinder program (a translation dictionary tool) for which JAWS wasn't working too efficiently. I called Freedom Scientific and got a tech support assistant who, from what I could tell, was not visually equipped. I explained that, perhaps, a sighted person would be more able to see what JAWS should be showing and wasn't, and provide helpful feedback as to what I could do to have it work better. The woman got very huffy, obviously deeply insulted. I told her there was a reason for my asking for a sighted assistant, implying no slur to blind tech support people, but to a situation where sight might be helpful, and there was no need to get huffy. Obviously, she was not impressed...



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VFO Tech Support, was: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

It is the great lie to believe that sight may not be important or critical in solving certain problems quickly and efficiently.

I have been, and probably will be, castigated for stating that but it's true.

Stating the above says nothing, positive or negative, about the competence of someone who's blind or visually impaired. What it does say is that you sometimes face the choice of taking forever to get through something that someone who sees literally sees in real time. When dealing with a primarily visual medium it only makes sense to take that into account when you're in a bind that you need to get out of as promptly as possible.

There is no shame, and no weakness, implied in asking for the most effective assistance one can get in any given situation where one needs it. If one has the luxury of time, and wants to learn something for the sake of learning it, then go methodically plowing through it (and this applies regardless of whether you have vision or not). But if I'm in a work situation and I need something resolved that sight would most likely make faster, it is absolutely not the job of technical support to treat the request as though it were a personal aspersion and they should, in fact, know this themselves if they've been at the job for more than a brief period of time.
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Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: VFO Tech Support, was: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I know at least one guy who created an early DOS screen reader, so he could maintain his chosen vocation as a programmer.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: VFO Tech Support, was: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

 

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 04:27 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:

I do most anything I need too but you are right there is no doubt that sight helps and is critical in some situations.

Thank you very much for reflecting back what I had tried to communicate.  It makes me confident that I hit my target.

This is definitely not about encouraging dependence or questioning an individual's abilities.  It's really is a tool to situation feature matching exercise when time is of the essence. 

As an aside, it's been interesting to me over time as I've read folks who are blind and who are computer programmers.  Having been one I would never, ever have thought that this would be possible while retaining one's sanity at the same time.  I was wrong, and it's fascinating to see both the similarities and differences in how the whole task is approached depending on an individual's sensory palette.
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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: beeps in thunderbird

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

You should be able to read TB messages with the PC cursor and you wont get the beeps.

On 5/21/2017 6:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Posted a question regarding some short beeps while reading a message in Thunderbird. I find that if I open quick settings with Jaws key v under touch cursor options there is a use sounds. I unchecked this and the beeps went away. As a newbe I don't know what this use sounds options is used for. Should I leave the use sounds checked for some reason beyond my current knowledge of Jaws?
Thanks


Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Pablo Morales
 

Yes, but we are able to disable the Kurzweil speech. Really jaws is muted, but it is still active in the computer. If you press alt + tab to go to another app, jaws is unmuted and gets muted again as soon the cursor or focus is back on Kurzweil. The Kurzweil voice is good, but make a little bit slow the process working on Kurzweil, I have been trying to turn off the Kurzweil voice, something that is possible, but I have not been able to unmute jaws on Kurzweil. I know that is Kurzweil who mutes jaws, but looks like Kurzweil take the audio driver control and return it back to jaws when the focus moves out of Kurzweil.
Any way, thank you so much,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Hi again, Pablo,

The suggestion for Kurzweil will not work. Jaws is turned off and since Kurzweil uses the insert key, it can't be used to activate Jaws. Maybe someone else has the correct answer. It might be that there is a way to stop the Jaws functions from being turned off before the program loads.

Carol


On 5/20/2017 9:46 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
You can press insert + space bar, then s to toggle speech off or on.
I am trying to do the opposite of what you want to do. I am wondering how did you do to make jaws speak on Kurzweil?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol