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moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Hey David.

 

Regarding winamp, there were a few things I did to set it up that made it work better – iE, getting rid of some dead plugins. I also use windows now to add stuff to playlists instead of doing this within the programme itself; it seems a bit more stable. Anyway, nothing wrong with having multiple players on your computer, either – I use VLC for video; winamp for audio (keep considering switching to foobar and not doing it).

 

As for the VLC preferences, I used to be able to do what you are describing. For quite some time now though, opening preferences (or in fact any of the other dialogue screens) does not give any feedback at all. As far as I know they are visually open, but screen-readers say nothing. I don’t know when this started but I feel like it was prior to the latest version being installed, which I have done. There must be some setting that has altered which is not revealing this info to my screen0-reader, but I am really not sure what it could be or what I must change. Would be nice, though, if I knew.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 27, 2020 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Microsoft Word has gone crazy

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Something weird’s happening since yesterday.

When I open a word document and arrow down, it says the line and then “forwarding is prohibited” or something like that because it’s in my mother tongue.

What am I doing wrong?

moderated Re: youtube

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

OBS is a software to stream and go live or even record

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: youtube

 

Hey look at this tutorial about Youtube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R2m52Yvq28

Don’t forget to like and subscribe

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: youtube

 

Okay.

 

What are obs?

 

And, how do I create the channel?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From:[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: youtube

 

You need to have a google account, a Youtube channel and OBS for streaming

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: youtube

 

How do I create an account with youtube?

 

Is there a tutorial on jaws and youtube?

 

 

I'd like to start going live and having the ability to save it.

 

There should be a way to create a channel, right?

 

Justin

 

 

moderated Jaws with Windows10 Mail inconsistant when reading EMails?

Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>
 

Am I the only one noticing that with Jaws 2020, while reading EMail in Windows10 Mail, I need to refresh the screen (Jaws+Escape) to, when sometimes it lands on who knows where,having to also Control+Home o get to the top of the EMail? Once I got the hang of this way of going about, it’s not too bad, but somewhat annoying! With the competitor, thanks too for the Windows10 Essentials, one breezes through Mail! Does Jaws have some sort of scripts to fix these little bugs with
windows10?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>
 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: zoom chat

george b
 

Ou also can zoom fact time if both devices have zoom app. installed.

 

So, if you have a iPhone and another has a android and they both have zoom installed you can live talk  just like apples facetime

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: March 28, 2020 5:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom chat

 

You can chat with zoom?  I thought it was just for meetings, not like skype. 

moderated Re: zoom chat

David Diamond
 

You can chat with zoom?  I thought it was just for meetings, not like skype. 

moderated Re: youtube

Gmail Jonas
 

Hey look at this tutorial about Youtube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R2m52Yvq28

Don’t forget to like and subscribe

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: youtube

 

Okay.

 

What are obs?

 

And, how do I create the channel?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From:[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: youtube

 

You need to have a google account, a Youtube channel and OBS for streaming

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: youtube

 

How do I create an account with youtube?

 

Is there a tutorial on jaws and youtube?

 

 

I'd like to start going live and having the ability to save it.

 

There should be a way to create a channel, right?

 

Justin

 

 

moderated Re: youtube

Justin Williams
 

Okay.

 

What are obs?

 

And, how do I create the channel?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: youtube

 

You need to have a google account, a Youtube channel and OBS for streaming

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: youtube

 

How do I create an account with youtube?

 

Is there a tutorial on jaws and youtube?

 

 

I'd like to start going live and having the ability to save it.

 

There should be a way to create a channel, right?

 

Justin

 

 

moderated Re: youtube

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

You need to have a google account, a Youtube channel and OBS for streaming

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: youtube

 

How do I create an account with youtube?

 

Is there a tutorial on jaws and youtube?

 

 

I'd like to start going live and having the ability to save it.

 

There should be a way to create a channel, right?

 

Justin

 

 

moderated Re: QCast?

ben <swigjr23@...>
 

Hi Anne,

I have been using Grover Podcasts. You can get it from the Windows Store. The interface is not the greatest to navigate, but I am able to subscribe and linsten to podcasts.

Ben

On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, ann <@etheria> wrote:

Hi,


For years, I have used the QCast program to download or play podcasts, but although I was able to install and even activate it, it either won't download podcast episodes or in many cases won't even add the podcast at all.


Anyone have any suggestions or a suggestion for other programs?


Thanks,

~Ann



moderated youtube

Justin Williams
 

How do I create an account with youtube?

 

Is there a tutorial on jaws and youtube?

 

 

I'd like to start going live and having the ability to save it.

 

There should be a way to create a channel, right?

 

Justin

 

 

moderated zoom chat

Justin Williams
 

I see a lot of info on having a zoom meeting, but is there anything on the zoom chat messenger?

 

What I mean is, some of the keystrokes that work in the meeting, don't work in the chat.

 

Also, I can't copy links or operate them while in the zoom chat room, and it doesn't seem as fluid as the meeting.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

moderated Re: sorry I am off topic, re from where please can I maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or voice activated universal remote control

James Homuth
 

This is definitely wayyyyyyyy off-topic. You’ll want the Blindtech list for this.

 

James,

List Admin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: March 28, 2020 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorry I am off topic, re from where please can I maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or voice activated universal remote control

 

 

Hello,

 

I am really sorry I am way off topic with this following question, but I dont know where else to turn to see if I can maybe get help with this question. Does maybe anyone on the list maybe know from where online I can maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or a voice activated universal remote control that I can program with some sighted help to work with my already owned regular dvd player

 

Any help I can maybe get with this by please replying to me privately would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for any help I can maybe get with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

Warmest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

moderated Re: jfw and outlook web mail

Pramit
 

Hi Robbie,

Use the following link for the information regarding the use of Outlook Web App email with JAWS.


Hope this helps

Pramit 


On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 6:49 PM Robbie Miller <millerrobbie@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I’ve been sent home to work, and I have to use Outlook Web Mail. It seems to be accessible, but a little clunky. Can anyone give me any advice? Does anyone have a list of hotkey? 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

moderated Re: Office.com with JAWS

Pramit
 

Hi Sharon,
Sharing below the link of article from Microsoft that will make it easy to access office online using JAWS.


Hope this helps

Pramit 


On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Sharon Clark <sharonjackson03@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Since working from home, my agency has us using office.com to access our emails.  Are there any shortcut keys or sufficient ways of navigating this online platform using JAWS?

 

Thank You,

Sharon

 

 

moderated Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

James Malone
 

$150.00.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

How much does this product cost? 

 

Tim Ford

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

The one good thing about David Pinto is that he makes this program fun and rewarding in its own way. He spends thousands of hours perfecting his scripts, and will provide help and documentation for his work. And most important, he’ll make it work with Jaws, not no silly animation such as Talking Typing Teacher.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Certainly agree with your principle Glenn … though I am not sure it’s always entirely wrong to profit from a niche market like  the disabled, certainly the entire model should be different and it’s ridiculous that the costs for some of these blindness-related products is so inflated.

 

I don’t know anything about typing tutorials nowadays, but I certainly remember some on disk for the Apple II computer. In the mid/late 80s when I was using the things, they were already old and I think most software was already in the public domain or close to. There were a few fun typing games … one that was kind of like space invaders and made use of the limited Apple speaker sound capability as well as the Echo speech synthesiser, whose pitch would increase as the letters got “closer” to you. Fun times. Haha

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: March 26, 2020 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Honestly, typing is one of the most important skills lacking in the Blind.  Mostly among the newly Blind.

However, with that in mind, in my opinion, I would state that it is despicable to make profit off a typing program designed for the Blind.

I think makers of software for the Blind, or other disabilities if it exists, need to stop making a living off the backs of the disabled, and spearhead an open-source movement for specialized software for the disabled,  and get a real job.

It will always be a small market and the cost will always be ten to twenty times the cost to the consumer of similar software, to the general public because of its limited market.

That is why the rehabilitation-specific software that state agencies purchase cost a couple million dollars per agency and about a third of a million annually to maintain it, for a product that by standards of complexity could otherwise easily be done as open-source software.

I have a degree in business management, so it's not like I don't understand how business works.  And I find it even worse when the disabled themselves engage in profiting off their brothers and sisters, especially when they have or still do exist on a disability-related income.

But to my original point, there needs to be an open-source typing program designed for the Blind, because a good one would incorporate some screenreader keyboard commands, Fun With Typability does this, I don't recall if TTT does, it's been a long time since I taught with that one.  So they are decent products in terms of what is needed, they only need to be free to consumers.  Perhaps they should operate like some programs do, free for home use, and a cost for business use.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:14 AM

Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

To be honest with you, I would have to agree. Talking Typing Teacher although it is very helpful for training, I find that The company that created the program isn’t helpful to its clients, and don’t let your system break down. You will have to perches the program again, meaning that you can only use it for the life of your hard drive. A lot of people don’t know this. You are allowed to download the software three times, but anything after three times you get no reset codes, and unless you buy directly from them they will not honor anyone buying outside of their company. Stores like Maxi aides or an on-line company that sell their product cannot make any decisions to reset your three activations.

Now, I’ve had dealings with the creator of the scripts, and decided to move my clients over to Fun with Typability, because it’s set up for the Jaws user.

They will work with you as well when it comes down to helpful hints and training methods.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Typability From yesaccessibility.com

 

Hi?

This is a great program! Many people that I trained with it loved it over talking typing teacher. All  you get is if you sessions for free with the demo. After those sessions have been used, the program is not usable until you purchase a license.

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates: 

those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 

 

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...> wrote:



Hi friends!

 

I’d love to train some people using the above mentioned program.

 

In a demo version, do I use it 15 times and that’s it? Has anyone used it before? I do not know if my question is clear, if not, please dear friends let me know.

 

Thank you!

 

Best

Thabo

 

 

 

moderated Re: free jaws help

 

I assume whatever registration steps you completed took care of the license you'll need to activate the JAWS you install. You can go to the following site to download the latest JAWS 2020 in order to install it:

 

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: free jaws help

 

Hi Jerry,

 

If you don’t have a JAWS 2020 icon on your desktop, you have to assume it didn’t install. There is no harm in downloading and install again. If it did install, it will only go into repair mode so no harm done.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry hathaway
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 PM
To: JFW Listserve <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: free jaws help

 

I registered on the Freedom Scientific Licensing portal to get the free Jaws license that is available until the end of June. After getting register I click on the download and install the program on to my computer, but I cannot find the new Jaws version on my computer and the only Jaws program version of 16.0 that I have on my computer is the only one I can find. Can anyone tell me what went wrong with the process and how I can fix to get the current subscription version of Jaws on my computer.

 

Jerry

.

moderated sorry I am off topic, re from where please can I maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or voice activated universal remote control

Hank William Merchant
 

 
Hello,
 
I am really sorry I am way off topic with this following question, but I dont know where else to turn to see if I can maybe get help with this question. Does maybe anyone on the list maybe know from where online I can maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or a voice activated universal remote control that I can program with some sighted help to work with my already owned regular dvd player
 
Any help I can maybe get with this by please replying to me privately would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for any help I can maybe get with this.
 
 
 
 
 
 
All the best,
Warmest regards,
 
Hank
 
 

moderated Re: free jaws help

Ron Pelletier
 

Hi Jerry,

 

If you don’t have a JAWS 2020 icon on your desktop, you have to assume it didn’t install. There is no harm in downloading and install again. If it did install, it will only go into repair mode so no harm done.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry hathaway
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 PM
To: JFW Listserve <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: free jaws help

 

I registered on the Freedom Scientific Licensing portal to get the free Jaws license that is available until the end of June. After getting register I click on the download and install the program on to my computer, but I cannot find the new Jaws version on my computer and the only Jaws program version of 16.0 that I have on my computer is the only one I can find. Can anyone tell me what went wrong with the process and how I can fix to get the current subscription version of Jaws on my computer.

 

Jerry

.