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Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

brian albriton
 

I’ll have to see if I get your same experience when I upgrade to office 2016 here at home.

Jaws gives me page number and the word count and some other information.

Curious.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

 

At work, I have Jaws 18 and Word 2013 and insert+PageDown tells me the status bar info like page number, line number, etc.

At home using Word 2016, Jaws 18 Home Use, insert+PageDown gives me the word count.

Where on Earth would I go to make it tell me the page number at least?

I just went through the Word Verbosity settings with insert+v and didn’t find anything useful.

 

Thanks for any help,

Richard

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

Bob Hicks
 

Oh my gosh, I still have my Opticon!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I started out with a Commodore 64 using an OPTACON to read the screen in about 1983 or so.  Hard to remember back that far.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

I probably have most of you beat, my Jaws serial number is 1056. I first bought Jaws for DOS in 1989, I think it was version 1.1, when Windows 3.1 came out in 19992 I used it alongside DOS.

Jaws for Windows was actually first released in January 1995, it was JFW 1.0 with support for Windows 3.1/3.11 and Windows for Workgroups 3.1.

JFW 2.0 was released in 1996, not sure when, it had support for Windows 95 which was released in August of 1995. Back in those days there usually was not support for a new OS version at the time of release.

I am looking some of this up in a Wikipedia article, for some reason they skip JFW 3.0.

In between, in 1998, 1999 and 2000 we of course had the release of Windows 98, 98SE and Millennium.

Windows XP was first released on August 24, 2001

JFW 4.0 which came out in September 2001 and I am pretty sure it support Windows XP.

JFW 4.5 came out in August of 2002 and it was the first version which had quick nav keys for IE.

JFW 5.0 was October 2003 and then there was a longer gap as JFW 6.0 didn't come out until March 2005, it introduced the ILM licensing scheme.

JFW 7 was released later that same year (2005) and 7.1 is listed with a release date of June 2006.

Windows Vista was released in November of 2006 and I'm pretty sure JFW 8 which was released in November of 2006 had support for it as well as introducing Realspeak Solo voices. From here on it seems to go to the annual release schedule in late October/early November.

Other milestones:

Jaws Tandem was released with Jaws 10 in November 2008

Windows 7 was released in July of 2009 and JFW 11 came out in the fall with support for Windows 7 and it introduced Research It

In 2010 JFW 12 replaced the old configuration manager with the Settings Centre

Jaws 13 in 2011 introduced one of my favourite features, Convenient OCR.

JFW 14 in 2012 came with Windows 8 support and Flexible Web

JFW 15 in 2013 had Windows 8 touch screen support and introduced FS Reader 3.0

JFW 16 in 2014 introduced command search in Settings Centre and Convenient OCR which in V13 only applied to graphics on the screen was expanded to handle entire PDF documents

Windows 10 first was released on July 29, 2015 and an update to Jaws 16 from the previous fall had initial support for it.

JFW 17 in 2015 introduced smart navigation for tables and Liblouis, an open source braille translator

Finally JFW 18 in 2016 (last fall) introduced mouse echo, audio ducking and Settings import/export was reintroduced.

 

Here is a link to the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAWS_(screen_reader)

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

I had an early demo version that was something like 0.76 with a serial in the 3000s.

 

I should have stock in the company since I have owned every version since DOS, either purchased or through paying for skipped updates.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ronnie Hill
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

Well I can't remember which year I did stgarted with JAWS Version of 3.3!

I guess it was around 1998

I thought that the first JAWS version was  started from 3.2 it amazing to know it started from version 3 but I'm not sure.

Cheers everyone.

Ronnie from London.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Hicks

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:37 PM

Subject: Re: training modules

 

Hard to believe I started on JAWS 3.1 isn’t it!

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: training modules

 

If you open the FS reader, you should be able to access tutorials from there by pressing control+J.  There are links to tutorials.  If they are not already downloaded and placed in the appropriate place, the program will do this for you.  These are in Daisy format and you can use control+P to toggle play and pause. 

This is a global key command, so as long as the reader is open, it takes presidence over other programs using that key command.  This makes it very handy if you want to practice what you are reading in an open program.  This information should be enough to get you started. 

Carol

On 6/8/2017 2:46 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

I downloaded my version of Jaws 18.  How do I git the training modules into FS reader?  tia

 

Have a great day!

 

Bob Hicks

 

 


Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

James Malone
 

I remember those days well. The smallest things can be the biggest problems, even now.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Exactly, that is how I remember it was for me. When I had my first computer at the uNiversity of Western Ontario in the fall of 1989 most things were still on 5.25 inch floppy isk, the ones which really were “floppy”. My PC had both a 5.25 and 3.5 inch drive, it had a “huge” 70 Mb hard drive where most of my fellow students still had 40 Mb drives or even 20 Mb drives. At some point my PC was upgraded to 1 Mb of RAM and I remember that it cost I think $700, of course a good PC back then could easily be $3,000. My first IBM Thinkpad (I think that was around 1993 or 1994 was $7,000 (all of this is Canadian Dollars).

I also had an HP Scanjet Plus scanner with Arkenstone and in 1989 when I got my first package it included a Eureka notetaker which had a braille keyboard and speech, but no braille display. It also had a 3.5 inch floppy drive and a built-in modem and it was a very compact device, maybe the size of a 13 inch laptop. It had a word processor, calculator incl. scientific, clock/calendar, reminders, I think a voice recorder as well and I remember it had a music composer. Anybody remember these, it was about $3,500 Canadian back then. Ah, the good old days, how many times did I go next door in my University dorm to ask a sighted friend why my computer wasn’t booting up only for him to walk in the room, remove the floppy disk I had forgotten to take out and all was good.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 6:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

 

Wow. I can't say I was ever told JFD and JFW had to operate as a package... and in fact a lot of places used ASAP before switching to JFW. But in my own personal experience, I had no issues using JFD to get me into Windows. Of course JFD stopped talking as soon as Windows loaded, but then... you weren't in DOS anymore.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 05:45 am, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:

I never liked JFD. I was already a MicroTalk ASAP user, and found it to be a vastly superior product. For instance, my department was told that JFD and JFW must operate as a package. Well, guess what, JFD couldn't handle the handoff to Windows; Windows wouldn't talk. So I loaded my authorized copy of ASAP instead, and it took right off. So much for JFD.

Moving to Windows was another matter, where JFW proved to be vastly superior to ASAW. I guess developing a Windows screen reader was too big a job for even the most talented individual programmer.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A history of Jaws and Windows, was: training modules

JAWS 2.x was for MS-DOS. It must have been 1992 when I bought it for use with
the DECTALK-PC speech card that I had just obtained. I remember making a
telephone call to the United States, very early in the morning Australian
time, to find out whether JAWS supported the new DECTALK-PC synthesizers. It
did, and, as I recall, Ted Henter himself was on the other end of the line to
tell me about it.

 


Re: Ring Video Pro accessibility

Luis Difut
 

Yes I use one. It's not perfect but I can answer the door & talk to the ringer. Most everything is labeled "Miles my vary!"

I have the Ring video door bell with two extra stick up cams for the back door and yard.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Ring Video Pro accessibility

 

Hello list,

Was considering getting a Ring Video Pro and would like to know if the accompanying app/cloud service is at all accessible?

I’d likely get someone to install it, but I’m interested in the notifications aspect. Both the wife and I run our businesses out of the house, so we’re home throughout the day. We’ve already got a no solicitations, no surveys and no sermons sign in front to cut down on people coming to the door, but there are always those who would never consider that such a sign applies to them.

In any event, I’d like to know people’s experiences with this device and accompanying desktop app for Windows.

Using the latest JFW 18.

Thanks,


Re: Document settings for reading in IE

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

What is your speech verbosity set too?Beginner says all kinds of stuff, intermediate cuts down on that and expert says very little...

On 6/9/2017 3:08 PM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:

This might not be what you’re looking for, but when on any web site in IE, you can press insert v for your quick settings. Go to your document settings and under general, you’ll find some reading settings. Make sure the checkbox for “document automatically reads” is unchecked and press the okay/execute button.

Hope this helps,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Vic Beckley
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS says command keys, and other nonsense

 

The problem I am having with extra verbiage is when I first load a web page. I first here the title of the web page as it is loading. Then I hear it probably 3 times before the page summary is spoken and one more time after that. I have a satellite connection, so my pages start loading fairly slowly. Is there any way to reduce this annoying chatter. If I stop speech, then the page doesn't automatically read.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS says command keys, and other nonsense

Jessica, press insert+j to gain focus to the JAWS window. now press the alt key to get the menubar. the option menu should be announced, if so press enter or down arrow to open it. the first option should be basics... press enter to open it. the first setting should be Tutor Messages. press the down or up arrow key to choose Turn off Menu and Control Help radio button checked, and press enter to save and close the basics dialog.
vwa la.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@...]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 8, 2017 3:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS says command keys, and other nonsense

                Hi,
I’m using JAWS 18, with Windows 10, 1607.

I’m getting a lot of extraneous info from JAWS.
When I go to my desktop, for example, I hear, “Windows D desktop.”

Can I stop JAWS from saying this extra stuff?
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from Mail for Windows 10








 



Document settings for reading in IE

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

This might not be what you’re looking for, but when on any web site in IE, you can press insert v for your quick settings. Go to your document settings and under general, you’ll find some reading settings. Make sure the checkbox for “document automatically reads” is unchecked and press the okay/execute button.

Hope this helps,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Vic Beckley
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS says command keys, and other nonsense

 

The problem I am having with extra verbiage is when I first load a web page. I first here the title of the web page as it is loading. Then I hear it probably 3 times before the page summary is spoken and one more time after that. I have a satellite connection, so my pages start loading fairly slowly. Is there any way to reduce this annoying chatter. If I stop speech, then the page doesn't automatically read.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS says command keys, and other nonsense

Jessica, press insert+j to gain focus to the JAWS window. now press the alt key to get the menubar. the option menu should be announced, if so press enter or down arrow to open it. the first option should be basics... press enter to open it. the first setting should be Tutor Messages. press the down or up arrow key to choose Turn off Menu and Control Help radio button checked, and press enter to save and close the basics dialog.
vwa la.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@...]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 8, 2017 3:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS says command keys, and other nonsense

                Hi,
I’m using JAWS 18, with Windows 10, 1607.

I’m getting a lot of extraneous info from JAWS.
When I go to my desktop, for example, I hear, “Windows D desktop.”

Can I stop JAWS from saying this extra stuff?
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from Mail for Windows 10








 


Re: Which Dave?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Carol, to contact someone off list, -

1. Shift-Tab through the fields to the from field - might
have to twice, and you'll see JFW and the sender's name and
address.
2. Press Home.
3. Highlight line by pressing Shift-End Key.
4. Press Control-C to copy that line.
5. Start a new message.
6. Go to the body of that message and edit that line. You
will remove everything except the email address. You will
remove the less than and greather signs on each side of
that.
7. Once that is all clean and all that remains is the email
address, Press Home.
8. Press Shift-End Key to highlight.
9. Press Control C to Copy All.
10. Shift-Tab to the To field.
11. Press Alt-V to paste in the email address.
12. Proceed with email, subject, message, signature ect.

Best From,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Which Dave?

Carol, which dave do you want? The one with his own dog
business or the other one.


Ring Video Pro accessibility

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

Was considering getting a Ring Video Pro and would like to know if the accompanying app/cloud service is at all accessible?

I’d likely get someone to install it, but I’m interested in the notifications aspect. Both the wife and I run our businesses out of the house, so we’re home throughout the day. We’ve already got a no solicitations, no surveys and no sermons sign in front to cut down on people coming to the door, but there are always those who would never consider that such a sign applies to them.

In any event, I’d like to know people’s experiences with this device and accompanying desktop app for Windows.

Using the latest JFW 18.

Thanks,


Re: CSS and Website Mockups with JAWS

Richard Turner
 

By asking someone sighted to check it.

You can get very close if you understand what the various CSS codes do, like setting foreground and background colors, or the colors of heading levels, etc.

But the bottom line is you will need visual verification before you will know for sure.

 

As for making a picture of a web sight accessible, I doubt very much that is possible.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: CSS and Website Mockups with JAWS

 

Hi,

 

What tips do you have for styling a website using CSS with JAWS, and knowing what the layouts look like afterwards? Suppose that the scenario is also that you have a mockup of what the website looks like, stored as a picture in a PDF. How do you go about making that mockup accessible, so you know what the customer is trying to convey, through the picture, to style your website using CSS, based on that picture? Also, how do you know that your styled CSS produces the correct output you needed? How do you know that the site looks good?

 

Thanks,

Mike


CSS and Website Mockups with JAWS

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

What tips do you have for styling a website using CSS with JAWS, and knowing what the layouts look like afterwards? Suppose that the scenario is also that you have a mockup of what the website looks like, stored as a picture in a PDF. How do you go about making that mockup accessible, so you know what the customer is trying to convey, through the picture, to style your website using CSS, based on that picture? Also, how do you know that your styled CSS produces the correct output you needed? How do you know that the site looks good?

 

Thanks,

Mike


Speaking Password for NVDA

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I remember a member here wanted to hear the passwords as he typed them... Jaws wont allow this but NNVDA has a plug in for this:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speakPasswords.en.html
If WinEyes and NVDA think it is worth doing it seems to me Jaws may consider it.


Re: A program that duplicates what is on the screen?

David & his pack of dogs
 



David and his pack of dogs. Sent from his IPhone when a sighted person was helping me she was using TeamViewer to share the screen here is an interesting twist she said that Josh cursor was following the speech it read out but it did not allow her to make any adjustments so just had to be turned off.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Randy Barnett <randy@...>
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:35:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A program that duplicates what is on the screen?
 
The sighted not knowing what you are doing is  gbeing address by VFO in
a upcoming release of Jaws. They may be in the latest release already. I
have no way of verifying right now.

On 6/7/2017 11:45 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
> If you are using remote assistance over anything but a local network
> sound is simply very likely to be delayed. I am not aware of any way
> to improve this. (The jaws remote access option gets around this
> problem by sending accessibility events rather than audio and having
> the audio then rendered on the client system, but this is not
> practical for most remote assistance situations as it requires jaws on
> both ends of the connection).
>
> Even switching to lower quality voices isn't likely to help as by the
> time the sound information is being sent it has already been rendered
> to a full-quality audio stream.
>
> On 6/7/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
>> Jim says that same thing, that he can't see what I'm talking
>> about or what he hears JAWS saying.
>>
>> Best From,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
>> Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 2:57 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: A program that duplicates what is on the screen?
>>
>> Here is my problem.  When phoning Microsoft disability help
>> line, what JAWS is reading out to me is different to what
>> they are seeing on my laptop screen.  I know JAWS is about
>> 15 seconds behind the instruction I am given by the help
>> desk.  But, they can't see the problem I am having because
>> as a sighted person explained to me, "David, I have no idea
>> where you are on the screen."  She was sitting next to me,
>> Microsoft was doing a remote access.  The specific problem?
>> Setting up a VPN.  The server says I am not connected yet
>> the person at Microsoft could not see that problem and had
>> no idea what I was talking about. What screen readers read
>> out is not the same as what the sighted see.  Is JAWS
>> capable of duplicating what the sighted see on the computer
>> screen? It's maddening when you have a problem and the
>> sighted cannot see it. It could also be as simple as, the
>> person at Microsoft can't see what is under their own nose.
>> Who, knows.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>





Re: A program that duplicates what is on the screen?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

The sighted not knowing what you are doing is gbeing address by VFO in a upcoming release of Jaws. They may be in the latest release already. I have no way of verifying right now.

On 6/7/2017 11:45 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
If you are using remote assistance over anything but a local network
sound is simply very likely to be delayed. I am not aware of any way
to improve this. (The jaws remote access option gets around this
problem by sending accessibility events rather than audio and having
the audio then rendered on the client system, but this is not
practical for most remote assistance situations as it requires jaws on
both ends of the connection).

Even switching to lower quality voices isn't likely to help as by the
time the sound information is being sent it has already been rendered
to a full-quality audio stream.

On 6/7/17, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
Jim says that same thing, that he can't see what I'm talking
about or what he hears JAWS saying.

Best From,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 2:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A program that duplicates what is on the screen?

Here is my problem. When phoning Microsoft disability help
line, what JAWS is reading out to me is different to what
they are seeing on my laptop screen. I know JAWS is about
15 seconds behind the instruction I am given by the help
desk. But, they can't see the problem I am having because
as a sighted person explained to me, "David, I have no idea
where you are on the screen." She was sitting next to me,
Microsoft was doing a remote access. The specific problem?
Setting up a VPN. The server says I am not connected yet
the person at Microsoft could not see that problem and had
no idea what I was talking about. What screen readers read
out is not the same as what the sighted see. Is JAWS
capable of duplicating what the sighted see on the computer
screen? It's maddening when you have a problem and the
sighted cannot see it. It could also be as simple as, the
person at Microsoft can't see what is under their own nose.
Who, knows.







Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Mario
 

the choices are contents and coordinates or contents only. the need is
to have the coordinates followed by the contents. it seems there's no
setting for this, even though it is displayed this way.

-------- Original Message --------
From: R&J [mailto:ronjacq@epbfi.com]
Sent: Friday, Jun 9, 2017 11:26 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

While in Excel, press the JAWS Insert key + v to bring up the settings
menu. Go down to the "reading" section and the first option in there is
to turn on or off the reading of the cell coordinates.


Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Dave...
 

That is the default behavior, however if someone has explicitly disabled the
trigger, then pressing the shift key until the cows come home will not
activate. That would require going to the Ease of Access Center and enabling
it. Type "Sticky Keys" in the search box.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Griffiths" <steve.griffiths@guidedogs.org.uk>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 08:55
Subject: Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings


Carol,

On my Windows 7 PC I can toggle sticky keys on and off by pressing Shift key
five times quite quickly. When sticky keys is on, I get a noise after
pressing Ctrl and Alt, but not after pressing JAWS key.

Hope that helps,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 June 2017 15:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Hi Mario,

There was a post on this list once for a sticky key control with Jaws keys.
I will find it, but I just haven't had time to search it out yet. In the
mean time, I have done what I needed to do for now. Thank you for the
information, though. FYI, I am using Windows7.

Carol


On 6/9/2017 10:23 AM, Mario wrote:
Carol, which operating system are you using? I believe the sticky keys
feature is a feature of Windows.

if you're using Windows 7:

press the Windows key and start typing sticky keys.
when you hear "Change how your keyboard works", press enter.
tab to Turn on Sticky Keys check box.
if it's not checked, press the spacebar to check it.
press tab to the ok button and press enter.

I don't know how to use this feature because I never had to use it. sorry.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
[mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Jun 9, 2017 7:41 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Hi Steve,

Thank you! This is exactly What I am looking to do. I didn't even
need to put in column names! I also found that if I want the titles
to say something more meaningful to me, I only need type that
information in and Jaws will read that instead of the obscure titles
originally created by the owner of the file. I shall use this feature
of Jaws a lot. The only difficulty is trying to use the 4-key
command. Do you remember how to turn on sticky keys or can you give
me an idea of where to find this command? Thanks again.

Carol


On 6/9/2017 5:14 AM, Steve Griffiths wrote:
Hi Carol,

You can identify multiple rows as titles. The trick is to select a
cell from each row, in this case maybe A2, A3 and A4, and then press
the keystroke to set them as titles: JAWSkey + Alt + Ctrl + C

You should then hear the titles read every time you move from one
column to another, but not when you move up and down a column.

Does that work? Is it what you need?

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 08 June 2017 18:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Hi,

My spreadsheet was set up by someone else. The column headers begin
on row 2 and go through row 4. Each line has one word. I.E., A2 is
Company and A3 is Symbol. there is F2 with Date of F3 original F4
Purchase.

There are ten columns and the actual data begins on row 6. The
spreadsheet name is in A1.

Using the information that was posted yesterday with how to get
columns headings to speak, my spreadsheet only said "title" when I
arrowed through the cells. I am sure I may have done something wrong,
but I am thinking it had more to do with my headers being broken into
multiple rows.

Is there a way I can either combine the information on each column so
that each word still remains in three rows, but only takes up one
physical cell, or is there a way to get all three rows spoken with the
column identification. I hope this makes sense. I don't want to
change the physical appearance of the printed sheet. Thanks for any
help. If you need further clarification, please email me off list.

Carol
carollablady@aol.com








The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association Registered Office:
Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire,
RG7 3YG. A company limited by
guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity
registered in England and Wales
(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk
Email: guidedogs@guidedogs.org.uk







.










The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association
Registered Office: Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire, RG7
3YG. A company limited by
guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity registered
in England and Wales
(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk
Email: guidedogs@guidedogs.org.uk


Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Steve Griffiths
 

Carol,

On my Windows 7 PC I can toggle sticky keys on and off by pressing Shift key five times quite quickly. When sticky keys is on, I get a noise after pressing Ctrl and Alt, but not after pressing JAWS key.

Hope that helps,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 June 2017 15:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Hi Mario,

There was a post on this list once for a sticky key control with Jaws keys. I will find it, but I just haven't had time to search it out yet. In the mean time, I have done what I needed to do for now. Thank you for the information, though. FYI, I am using Windows7.

Carol


On 6/9/2017 10:23 AM, Mario wrote:
Carol, which operating system are you using? I believe the sticky keys
feature is a feature of Windows.

if you're using Windows 7:

press the Windows key and start typing sticky keys.
when you hear "Change how your keyboard works", press enter.
tab to Turn on Sticky Keys check box.
if it's not checked, press the spacebar to check it.
press tab to the ok button and press enter.

I don't know how to use this feature because I never had to use it. sorry.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
[mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Jun 9, 2017 7:41 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Hi Steve,

Thank you! This is exactly What I am looking to do. I didn't even
need to put in column names! I also found that if I want the titles
to say something more meaningful to me, I only need type that
information in and Jaws will read that instead of the obscure titles
originally created by the owner of the file. I shall use this feature
of Jaws a lot. The only difficulty is trying to use the 4-key
command. Do you remember how to turn on sticky keys or can you give
me an idea of where to find this command? Thanks again.

Carol


On 6/9/2017 5:14 AM, Steve Griffiths wrote:
Hi Carol,

You can identify multiple rows as titles. The trick is to select a
cell from each row, in this case maybe A2, A3 and A4, and then press
the keystroke to set them as titles: JAWSkey + Alt + Ctrl + C

You should then hear the titles read every time you move from one
column to another, but not when you move up and down a column.

Does that work? Is it what you need?

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: 08 June 2017 18:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

Hi,

My spreadsheet was set up by someone else. The column headers begin
on row 2 and go through row 4. Each line has one word. I.E., A2 is
Company and A3 is Symbol. there is F2 with Date of F3 original F4
Purchase.

There are ten columns and the actual data begins on row 6. The
spreadsheet name is in A1.

Using the information that was posted yesterday with how to get
columns headings to speak, my spreadsheet only said "title" when I
arrowed through the cells. I am sure I may have done something wrong,
but I am thinking it had more to do with my headers being broken into
multiple rows.

Is there a way I can either combine the information on each column so
that each word still remains in three rows, but only takes up one
physical cell, or is there a way to get all three rows spoken with the
column identification. I hope this makes sense. I don't want to
change the physical appearance of the printed sheet. Thanks for any
help. If you need further clarification, please email me off list.

Carol
carollablady@aol.com








The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association Registered Office:
Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire,
RG7 3YG. A company limited by
guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity
registered in England and Wales
(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk
Email: guidedogs@guidedogs.org.uk







.










The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association
Registered Office: Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire, RG7 3YG. A company limited by
guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity registered in England and Wales
(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk
Email: guidedogs@guidedogs.org.uk


Re: Jaws and speaking Excel headings

R&J
 

While in Excel, press the JAWS Insert key + v to bring up the settings menu.  Go down to the "reading" section and the first option in there is to turn on or off the reading of the cell coordinates.


Re: Word 2016 and JAWS 18

Ann Byrne
 

F6 should take you to the status bar. There you can check and uncheck options like page number and word count.

At 09:54 AM 6/9/2017, you wrote:
At work, I have Jaws 18 and Word 2013 and insert+PageDown tells me the status bar info like page number, line number, etc.
At home using Word 2016, Jaws 18 Home Use, insert+PageDown gives me the word count.
Where on Earth would I go to make it tell me the page number at least?
I just went through the Word Verbosity settings with insert+v and didn't find anything useful.

Thanks for any help,
Richard



Re: win 10 won't accept my product key

Mario
 

yep. that's the number.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Friday, Jun 9, 2017 10:39 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: win 10 won't accept my product key

Call Microsoft Accessibility help. I'm going from memory, but I think
their number is 800-936-5900


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: win 10 won't accept my product key

Hi,
I'm having an issue with Windows 10.
Win 10 won't accept my product key.

What can I do?
Thanks,
Jessica


Re: win 10 won't accept my product key

 

Call Microsoft activation centre, usually there should be a message displayed with a phone number, if not you can always call Microsoft Accessibility and I’m sure if they can’t fix it they will put you to the right people.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: win 10 won't accept my product key

 

Hi,

I’m having an issue with Windows 10.

Win 10 won’t accept my product key.

 

What can I do?

Thanks,

Jessica