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moderated Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

Richard Turner
 

In your first note you said: “I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf"

NVDA reads PDf documents fine if you still run into issues.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Jaws works fine with pdfs for me.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

In fact, for me, Narrator just goes silent even with a PDF I know is accessible.

I use Adobe DC.

Have you tried using Jaws Convenient OCR from File Explorer by right clicking on the file and selecting it from the context menu?

 

To not offend any of the moderators, I think the topic of Narrator should be stopped now.

Besides, I’ve written someone at Microsoft who may have some answers.

I’ll write off list if I hear anything.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Narrator won't even read the pdf version of the Narrator Guide.

Thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr. via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Some of them are not, and I'm using 9 pro.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Do you know if the PDF files are images?

Jaws will try to do OCR on image PDFs while I do not believe Narrator has that ability.

Which Adobe are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

moderated Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Jaws works fine with pdfs for me.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

In fact, for me, Narrator just goes silent even with a PDF I know is accessible.

I use Adobe DC.

Have you tried using Jaws Convenient OCR from File Explorer by right clicking on the file and selecting it from the context menu?

 

To not offend any of the moderators, I think the topic of Narrator should be stopped now.

Besides, I’ve written someone at Microsoft who may have some answers.

I’ll write off list if I hear anything.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Narrator won't even read the pdf version of the Narrator Guide.

Thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr. via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Some of them are not, and I'm using 9 pro.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Do you know if the PDF files are images?

Jaws will try to do OCR on image PDFs while I do not believe Narrator has that ability.

Which Adobe are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

moderated Re: Need help with Blackboard

 

I can't speak to Blackboard from an overall ease of accessibility perspective, but I have had to train a couple of my previous clients who were graduate students to navigate it.  All were successful using a modern browser, which means not Internet Explorer.  Obviously, there are parts of Blackboard, or any complex system, that I never needed to get into with either client.

If memory serves one was using Firefox and the other Chrome.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

Richard Turner
 

In fact, for me, Narrator just goes silent even with a PDF I know is accessible.

I use Adobe DC.

Have you tried using Jaws Convenient OCR from File Explorer by right clicking on the file and selecting it from the context menu?

 

To not offend any of the moderators, I think the topic of Narrator should be stopped now.

Besides, I’ve written someone at Microsoft who may have some answers.

I’ll write off list if I hear anything.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Narrator won't even read the pdf version of the Narrator Guide.

Thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr. via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Some of them are not, and I'm using 9 pro.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Do you know if the PDF files are images?

Jaws will try to do OCR on image PDFs while I do not believe Narrator has that ability.

Which Adobe are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

moderated Re: Need help with Blackboard

James English
 

Hello,

IE does not work with blackboard, even if you can see. I primarily use
IE and got a sighted friend to check to see what was going wrong, and
apparently some of the buttons don't even display on the screen. Why
blackboard doesn't tell you this when you log in is beyond me, but if
you look at the layout of their website you can probably realise that
common sense is not their strongest suit.

- James

On 3/28/20, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
I'm not certain but I suspect she is using IE. I will suggest she
switch to chrome for a slightly better experience.

Thanks

On 3/28/20, James English <james13english@...> wrote:
Hello,

Which web browser is she using? I'm sad to say I can't offer much
comfort with blackboard, it is absolutely terrible. However, it's
somewhat less useless on chrome than IE.

- James

On 3/28/20, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a friend who is taking a class and most of the work is being
done through Blackboard. She struggling a lot with the accessibility
or lack of it. She has both jaws and nvda for screen readers. Does
anyone have any tips or would be willing to help her?

I have no experience with blackboard and so am not much help to her.

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly






--
Kimberly



moderated Re: Need help with Blackboard

Kimber Gardner
 

I'm not certain but I suspect she is using IE. I will suggest she
switch to chrome for a slightly better experience.

Thanks

On 3/28/20, James English <james13english@...> wrote:
Hello,

Which web browser is she using? I'm sad to say I can't offer much
comfort with blackboard, it is absolutely terrible. However, it's
somewhat less useless on chrome than IE.

- James

On 3/28/20, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a friend who is taking a class and most of the work is being
done through Blackboard. She struggling a lot with the accessibility
or lack of it. She has both jaws and nvda for screen readers. Does
anyone have any tips or would be willing to help her?

I have no experience with blackboard and so am not much help to her.

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly





--
Kimberly

moderated Re: Need help with Blackboard

James English
 

Hello,

Which web browser is she using? I'm sad to say I can't offer much
comfort with blackboard, it is absolutely terrible. However, it's
somewhat less useless on chrome than IE.

- James

On 3/28/20, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a friend who is taking a class and most of the work is being
done through Blackboard. She struggling a lot with the accessibility
or lack of it. She has both jaws and nvda for screen readers. Does
anyone have any tips or would be willing to help her?

I have no experience with blackboard and so am not much help to her.

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly



moderated Need help with Blackboard

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi all,

I have a friend who is taking a class and most of the work is being
done through Blackboard. She struggling a lot with the accessibility
or lack of it. She has both jaws and nvda for screen readers. Does
anyone have any tips or would be willing to help her?

I have no experience with blackboard and so am not much help to her.

Thanks,
Kim

--
Kimberly

moderated Re: Desktop Shortcut Problem

Richard B. McDonald
 

This should be reported to FS.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Desktop Shortcut Problem

 

Hi, David. Yes, I have been experiencing the same problem from time to time with the latest update to JAWS. If I close all windows and try the shortcut again, the folder usually opens with no problem.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Desktop Shortcut Problem

 

HI all,

 

Windows 10, JAWS 2020

 

In recent weeks, I have frequently heard “unavailable” when hitting a desktop shortcut. Especially the Downloads, Documents,and a few other folders. Only folders, not shortcuts to programs or web pages. Does anybody have similar problems? Does anybody have a solution? It happens quite frequently and is very annoying. And I know the desktop shortcuts have been put in correctly, so that’s not the problem.

 

Thanks for any help on this,

David

 

 

 

moderated Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Narrator won't even read the pdf version of the Narrator Guide.

Thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr. via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Some of them are not, and I'm using 9 pro.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Do you know if the PDF files are images?

Jaws will try to do OCR on image PDFs while I do not believe Narrator has that ability.

Which Adobe are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>
 

Which makes me wonder if the Jaws cursor would make this info readible within Vlc?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 28 mar 2020, a la(s) 8:43 a.m., JM Casey <jmcasey@...> escribió:



I feel like some months ago I was able to read some of this info using the touch cursor, but it is hardly the most practical solution when trying to listen/watch a video etc, so yeah…that’d be nice.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel



El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Mario
 

JM, I'm curious, what plugins did you get rid of to make Winamp a bit more stable, and what other things did you do?

-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2020, 9:21 AM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?
Hey David.

Regarding winamp, there were a few things I did to set it up that made
it work better – iE, getting rid of some dead plugins. I also use
windows now to add stuff to playlists instead of doing this within the
programme itself; it seems a bit more stable. Anyway, nothing wrong with
having multiple players on your computer, either – I use VLC for video;
winamp for audio (keep considering switching to foobar and not doing it).

As for the VLC preferences, I used to be able to do what you are
describing. For quite some time now though, opening preferences (or in
fact any of the other dialogue screens) does not give any feedback at
all. As far as I know they are visually open, but screen-readers say
nothing. I don’t know when this started but I feel like it was prior to
the latest version being installed, which I have done. There must be
some setting that has altered which is not revealing this info to my
screen0-reader, but I am really not sure what it could be or what I must
change. Would be nice, though, if I knew.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Griffith
*Sent:* March 27, 2020 9:17 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in
VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the
options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of
though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am
still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me
on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was
experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some
modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This
experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something
that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *JM Casey <mailto:jmcasey@...>
*Sent: *27 March 2020 16:35
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for
you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and
things like that.

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I
use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the
best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood
and really I've only scratched the surface.

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I
love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I
agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC
addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example
or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is
so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent
obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,
and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems
utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h
command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and
Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info,
maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with
this combo.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

moderated Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Some of them are not, and I'm using 9 pro.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

Do you know if the PDF files are images?

Jaws will try to do OCR on image PDFs while I do not believe Narrator has that ability.

Which Adobe are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

I feel like some months ago I was able to read some of this info using the touch cursor, but it is hardly the most practical solution when trying to listen/watch a video etc, so yeah…that’d be nice.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: March 28, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

What I’d like to be able to do with Jaws and Vlc, is to see how long the audio is, how much time remains, like with the competitor’s.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel



El 27 mar 2020, a la(s) 7:17 p.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

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moderated Re: QCast?

james hooper
 

Is this a desktop application?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 6:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: QCast?

 

I think the best Podcast App for Windows is Speak On Media Suite. It has certainly been fuller featured than QCast for years.

 

I confess an interest as I am nearing the end of making a Podcast series on Speak On – ironically I was recording the first part of  the 9th Podcast on the range of features in Speak On  today actually focussing on the app’s abilities as a Podcast Reader.

This should be ready in the next day or so.

It actually has 3 Podcasts apps within it application.

  1. Tunein Radio – if you have a free or paid Tunein account you  can search all the Podcasts and downloadable Radio Shows within  Tunein.  As well as streaming from Tunein you can download all downloadable content as well.
  2. The Main Podcast app – here you can search for Podcast in the normal way as in QCast.
  3.  However in addition you can also browse  a library for suggested other Podcasts. It is effectively a BBC Sounds app for example with Podcasts from all the BBC Stations. It also has categories from for example 50 most popular Podcasts etc. Of course you can also import and export OPML file of podcast or individual Podcast feeds from the web.
  4. There is also an optional VI Podcast app plugin which you can download and install from within the program which provides  a categorised  array of pre-selected specialist community and commercial Podcasts targeted at Visually Impaired users.
  5. All the Podcast apps allow on the fly adjustment of volume, audio playback speed and navigation via hot keys. Podcasts can be bookmarked and there is an auto resume feature which will always take you back to the place you left off listening to  a Podcast after you have shut down and re-started the program.

 

The Suite also has what is, as far as I am concerned by a country mile the best featured ePub Book reader,  far more featured than QRead, an Audio / Daisy Book app which again I think is the best featured audio book player. It is my preferred Audio Daisy Book reader more than FS Reader  but it does not support text based xml formats.

It also has a CD app for playing Audio and Daisy Audio CDs and also includes a full featured Music player.

If you are in the UK it also integrates directly into the RNIB Newsagent service for downloading Newspaper and Magazines, again via an optional additional app  Plugin downloadable within the app itself.

As well as Tunein Radio there is a specialist optional VI Radio app and also in one of my Podcasts I show how the Other Media app can also be used as a third  Internet Radio app using a downloadable Internet Radio folder playlist structure.

It is very full featured I am constantly astonished at how little attention it has garnered over the few years. This is why I have  been doing the Podcast series over the last few months demonstrating the capabilities of the app.

The main obstacle people tend to have is that the app is self voicing and uses eSpeak as the default voice on install. However I show in my first Podcast this can easily be changed to a Sapi 5 voice to make the app sound far more friendly. There are a few other aspects of the app which take a little getting used to, the main one being that the confirmation OK or cancel options are in the alt based menu system rather than buttons on dialogues boxes. This is fine once you get used to it however.

 

David Griffith

 

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From: ann
Sent: 27 March 2020 22:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: QCast?

 

Hi,

 

 

 For years, I have used the QCast program to download or play podcasts,

but although I was able to install and even activate it, it either won't

download podcast episodes or in many cases won't even add the podcast at

all.

 

 

Anyone have any suggestions or a suggestion for other programs?

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

Richard Turner
 

Glad that worked.  Microsoft is extra protective when it comes to reading attached Word documents because they can contain viruses, malware, etc.  Hence the reason to never open attachments unless you trust the source.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

 

Thanks, that solved the problem. Haha, I used Linux for a lot of my life so I am not proficient in MS Word

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

 

Was it a document you received via Email?

 

If so, it may be in Protected View.

Often you can enable editing, assuming it is from a trusted source, by hitting f6 until you get a dialog that says something like, be careful, files from the internet can contain viruses.

Tab and there should be a button to enable editing.

 

Or, sometimes, you just need to go from read only to print view.

Same f6 will get you there.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

 

Something weird’s happening since yesterday.

When I open a word document and arrow down, it says the line and then “forwarding is prohibited” or something like that because it’s in my mother tongue.

What am I doing wrong?

moderated Re: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

Richard Turner
 

Do you know if the PDF files are images?

Jaws will try to do OCR on image PDFs while I do not believe Narrator has that ability.

Which Adobe are you using?

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

moderated Re: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Thanks, that solved the problem. Haha, I used Linux for a lot of my life so I am not proficient in MS Word

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

 

Was it a document you received via Email?

 

If so, it may be in Protected View.

Often you can enable editing, assuming it is from a trusted source, by hitting f6 until you get a dialog that says something like, be careful, files from the internet can contain viruses.

Tab and there should be a button to enable editing.

 

Or, sometimes, you just need to go from read only to print view.

Same f6 will get you there.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

 

Something weird’s happening since yesterday.

When I open a word document and arrow down, it says the line and then “forwarding is prohibited” or something like that because it’s in my mother tongue.

What am I doing wrong?

moderated Reading a pdf document with Narrator when Jaws gives me an error command

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

 

Good morning: For some reason: when I try to read a pdf with Narrator, using the combination caplocks+r, nothing reads. I can read word files fine.

I'm asking this because sometimes jaws errors in opening a pdf when Narrator will actually open the file. Unfortunately, I can read the contents. Narrator will actually read none of my PDF files.

Thanks.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with JFW scripting

 

Look for the sharepoint script file for examples.

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moderated Re: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

Richard Turner
 

Was it a document you received via Email?

 

If so, it may be in Protected View.

Often you can enable editing, assuming it is from a trusted source, by hitting f6 until you get a dialog that says something like, be careful, files from the internet can contain viruses.

Tab and there should be a button to enable editing.

 

Or, sometimes, you just need to go from read only to print view.

Same f6 will get you there.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Microsoft Word has gone crazy

 

Something weird’s happening since yesterday.

When I open a word document and arrow down, it says the line and then “forwarding is prohibited” or something like that because it’s in my mother tongue.

What am I doing wrong?