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Re: Managing Key Labels in JAWS

netbat66
 

if you open the jaws screen and press f1 you will get all the books of instructions for all your questions.
you press enter on a book you want to read then press f6 to switch to the reading pane to read them.
***
the hardest thing is trying to find the options. grin
you can use the search box and type in keyboard labels.
this should show the key label menu options.
once there all you have to do is arrow down the list of keys and press the space bar on the ones you want silenced. they will change from speak to muted. some you can not change though. like the shift,alt and control keys.
once you mute all of them tab to apply to save your settings then ok to close the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stanley Haupt
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Managing Key Labels in JAWS



Where can I find more information on managing key labels in JAWS? I did listen to Main Menu last evening and I also heard the FS-cast from Jonathan. I think that I need step by step guidance to learn this feature.



I want to turn off tab, return and the function keys 1-12.


Re: Chrome and JAWS 14?

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I would say probably not well that’s a guess on my part.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Chrome and JAWS 14?

 

I know Chrome works reasonably well with JAWS 18, but I'm resisting 18 until I get around to getting a Windows 10 system. That said, how well does Chrome behave for JAWS 14? Anything I can do to make it play nicer?


Re: A Jaws tandem question

Alan Robbins
 

I am always very hesitant to have someone else poking around in my machine and making changes. I prefer them to talk me through it and then I make the changes and know what was changed. If I do feel I'm in over my head and have someone else make changes, I am always very sure that I have a current image back up should I need it.
There has been times that I have had Microsoft accessibility tinker around with my wife's machine and I simply had to restore the image because the fix created many other issues that were not present prior to it.
This is not to cast a negative aspersions on Microsoft accessibility or any other tech savvy person on the list. This is only passing on my experiences and I feel when you have other people make changes to your machine if you are not learning what the problem was and therefore can't have no way to fix it in the future.

On May 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:

The advantage to Tandem is that someone can help you with
your program like VFO or Microsoft Disability, even good and
savvy people from the list in some cases.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Jaws tandem question

Hi all,

I need to download the latest version of Jaws 17. I see
that there are 2 versions. The tandem and the nontandem
versions. The tandem version allows for tandem sessions
while the nontandem does not.

OK, my question. What possible advantage could there be to
downloading the nontandem version?

Many thanks,

James B


**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a
bad example.





Re: file index

Gudrun Brunot
 

I've had that also, but it is erratic. Sometimes, it reports the number
correctly, then, due to some fluke, it starts to say a certain number
regardless of the number of files in that directory. I remember I was doing
a transcription job and encountered this, and my reaction was sheer panic--I
contacted the project coordinator and asked him to resend the files. Then, I
worried about knowing where in the project I was, since all the files had
files named per a numbers protocol... Finally, I got wise and stopped
panicking--at least on that score...

Cheers,



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: file index

In my documents insert up arrow reads the name of the file or folder, but
the numbering is not correct. I hear this or that of 23 all the time, even
though I may have 100 items.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/27/2017 11:31 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
In my experience, Insert Up Arrow reads the current line.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don
H
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: file index

I sent a question to VFO tech support concerning how to get Jaws to give a
index number when arrowing down a list of files and folders in file
explorer. In other words when arrowing down the file name is spoken
followed by 1 of 20 etc. Their suggestion was to use insert up arrow to get
this info. When I do this it repeats the line I am on but does not include
a index number. Anyone getting the insert up arrow to give a index number?
Thanks







Re: off topic possibly

David & his pack of dogs
 

To help you out, I live on the Westcoast of B C in Canada, otherwise known
as the wet coast. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

So, sounds like you are a couple of thousand miles from North Carolina.

Anyway, I hope you get that task done.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

It's a different dave. But, take heart, he lives just 2 states away and
across the border from me. The border crossing is in Vancouver B C Canada.
He lives south of that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

David, it sounds to me that the best thing to do is scan them onto a
computer. I'm thinking you'd need someone's help
- sorry my husband lives thousands of miles away. Or maybe you don't live in
Oregon, that's another Dave. Anyway, I'm thinking that could work, if you
could scan them onto a computer - even at Walgreens. Actually, I believe
they have a service like that at Walgreens where they will do that for you.
Once you get it in your computer, then you have control of it, wherever you
want to send it, put it on a flash drive or SD card, whatever.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David &
his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

I am. They are pics taken with a camera. I doubt it had a
USB port or cable come with it.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly



...if you're talking about photographs without words -- absolutely useless.



Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer





----- Original Message -----

From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 08:05

Subject: off topic possibly



Does anyone know if coloured pictures can be scanned into a
computer? If so, how isJAWS with reading it?


What FTP program is accessible?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I need an accessible FTP program.  My first choice would be FileZilla.  Is it accessible?  If not, could you please suggest another?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: A Jaws tandem question

James Bentley
 

Bill,
 
I never thought about the 2 reasons that you are suggesting.  But, I suspect that you are correct.
 
Thanks to all who responded to my question.
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: A Jaws tandem question
 

I think they have the Tandem and non-Tandem versions for two reasons:

1. the Non-Tandem version is a slightly smaller program to download.

2. The Non-Tandem takes slightly less memory on computers which have less RAM.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Jaws tandem question

 

Hi all,

 

I need to download the latest version of Jaws 17.  I see that there are 2 versions. The tandem and the nontandem versions  The tandem version allows for tandem sessions while the nontandem does not.

 

OK, my question.  What possible advantage could there be to downloading the nontandem version?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

 

 

**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: off topic possibly

Gene Stevens
 


Exactly. It's image recognition software on the FB servers that is doing the work not the screen reader. And that software is a monster that requires huge amounts of resources to run and huge databases of images to draw it's conclusions from.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 03:35 pm, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Even on Facebook, like, my sister sent a picture, and JAWS
announced man and woman at table.

Which, if your sister herself did not enter that alternate text, is probably an "under the hood" function that Facebook is using to run photos through image recognition (akin to https://www.captionbot.ai/) and putting its results in as alternate text when the picture is placed.

I have never seen a native screen reader function for this under any of the major screen readers, but all will read alternate text if it is available for an image.  On my business website I have put alternate text for most images (many of which are actually Microsoft Word-Art saved as images) so that folks know what's there even if it isn't all that important.  My logo uses word art for the business name, "Bri the Tech Guy"  (usually mispronounced as bree rather than bry) and I have that read out as, "Bri the Tech Guy rainbow text image."  But it's not the screen reader that's figuring this out, it's just using the alternate text I've provided. 
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332


If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: off topic possibly

 

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 03:35 pm, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Even on Facebook, like, my sister sent a picture, and JAWS
announced man and woman at table.

Which, if your sister herself did not enter that alternate text, is probably an "under the hood" function that Facebook is using to run photos through image recognition (akin to https://www.captionbot.ai/) and putting its results in as alternate text when the picture is placed.

I have never seen a native screen reader function for this under any of the major screen readers, but all will read alternate text if it is available for an image.  On my business website I have put alternate text for most images (many of which are actually Microsoft Word-Art saved as images) so that folks know what's there even if it isn't all that important.  My logo uses word art for the business name, "Bri the Tech Guy"  (usually mispronounced as bree rather than bry) and I have that read out as, "Bri the Tech Guy rainbow text image."  But it's not the screen reader that's figuring this out, it's just using the alternate text I've provided. 
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: file index

Maria Campbell
 

In my documents insert up arrow reads the name of the file or folder, but the numbering is not correct. I hear this or that of 23 all the time, even though I may have 100 items.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/27/2017 11:31 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
In my experience, Insert Up Arrow reads the current line.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: file index

I sent a question to VFO tech support concerning how to get Jaws to give a index number when arrowing down a list of files and folders in file explorer. In other words when arrowing down the file name is spoken followed by 1 of 20 etc. Their suggestion was to use insert up arrow to get this info. When I do this it repeats the line I am on but does not include a index number. Anyone getting the insert up arrow to give a index number?
Thanks






mystery of file indexes

Don H
 

After playing around trying to understand file indexes I am finding that the verbosity level is what effects what if any file indexes are spoken. I have my verbosity set to advanced thus no indexes are spoken. This holds true when arrowing down a list in file explorer or on the desktop.
If I change to beginner or intermediate verbosity level I had mixed results. It will speak the indexes of the desktop icons but at least on my computer you may or may not get indexes spoken in file manager automatically or with the insert up arrow. If there is another setting to improve the speaking of indexes I have not found it yet.


Re: file index

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I tried it, and I get that information too.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: file index

Hello Don,
Yes, when I press the insert up arrow command, I do receive the file or folder name followed by the index number. In my documents folder for example, when I press the insert up arrow command I get the name of the folder followed by 2 of 78. This is with JAWS18 on a Windows10 machine.


On 5/27/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
I sent a question to VFO tech support concerning how to get Jaws to
give a index number when arrowing down a list of files and folders in
file explorer. In other words when arrowing down the file name is
spoken followed by 1 of 20 etc. Their suggestion was to use insert up
arrow to get this info. When I do this it repeats the line I am on
but does not include a index number. Anyone getting the insert up
arrow to give a index number?
Thanks




Re: file index

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

In my experience, Insert Up Arrow reads the current line.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: file index

I sent a question to VFO tech support concerning how to get Jaws to give a index number when arrowing down a list of files and folders in file explorer. In other words when arrowing down the file name is spoken followed by 1 of 20 etc. Their suggestion was to use insert up arrow to get this info. When I do this it repeats the line I am on but does not include a index number. Anyone getting the insert up arrow to give a index number?
Thanks


Re: A Jaws tandem question

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

The advantage to Tandem is that someone can help you with
your program like VFO or Microsoft Disability, even good and
savvy people from the list in some cases.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Jaws tandem question

Hi all,

I need to download the latest version of Jaws 17. I see
that there are 2 versions. The tandem and the nontandem
versions. The tandem version allows for tandem sessions
while the nontandem does not.

OK, my question. What possible advantage could there be to
downloading the nontandem version?

Many thanks,

James B


**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a
bad example.


Re: off topic possibly

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

So, sounds like you are a couple of thousand miles from
North Carolina.

Anyway, I hope you get that task done.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

It's a different dave. But, take heart, he lives just 2
states away and across the border from me. The border
crossing is in Vancouver B C Canada.
He lives south of that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

David, it sounds to me that the best thing to do is scan
them onto a computer. I'm thinking you'd need someone's help
- sorry my husband lives thousands of miles away. Or maybe
you don't live in Oregon, that's another Dave. Anyway, I'm
thinking that could work, if you could scan them onto a
computer - even at Walgreens. Actually, I believe they have
a service like that at Walgreens where they will do that for
you.
Once you get it in your computer, then you have control of
it, wherever you want to send it, put it on a flash drive or
SD card, whatever.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly

I am. They are pics taken with a camera. I doubt it had a
USB port or cable come with it.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: off topic possibly



...if you're talking about photographs without words --
absolutely useless.



Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer





----- Original Message -----

From: David & his pack of dogs
<mailto:myguidedogis@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 08:05

Subject: off topic possibly



Does anyone know if coloured pictures can be scanned into a
computer? If so, how isJAWS with reading it?


Re: A Jaws tandem question

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I think they have the Tandem and non-Tandem versions for two reasons:

1. the Non-Tandem version is a slightly smaller program to download.

2. The Non-Tandem takes slightly less memory on computers which have less RAM.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Jaws tandem question

 

Hi all,

 

I need to download the latest version of Jaws 17.  I see that there are 2 versions. The tandem and the nontandem versions.  The tandem version allows for tandem sessions while the nontandem does not.

 

OK, my question.  What possible advantage could there be to downloading the nontandem version?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

 

 

**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: A Jaws tandem question

Maria Campbell
 

I wouldn't be without the Tandem feature.  For one thing, tech support can help fix issues via tandem.  Friends can help friends with issues via tandem.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 5/27/2017 11:10 AM, James Malone wrote:

You will still have the same functionality of Jaws, but without tandem. This would be just like the days when it wasn’t around.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Jaws tandem question

 

Hi all,

 

I need to download the latest version of Jaws 17.  I see that there are 2 versions. The tandem and the nontandem versions.  The tandem version allows for tandem sessions while the nontandem does not.

 

OK, my question.  What possible advantage could there be to downloading the nontandem version?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

 

 

**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.



Managing Key Labels in JAWS

Stanley Haupt
 

Where can I find more information on managing key labels in JAWS? I did listen to Main Menu last evening and I also heard the FS-cast from Jonathan. I think that I need step by step guidance to learn this feature.

 

I want to turn off tab, return and the function keys 1-12.


Re: A Jaws tandem question

James Malone
 

You will still have the same functionality of Jaws, but without tandem. This would be just like the days when it wasn’t around.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Jaws tandem question

 

Hi all,

 

I need to download the latest version of Jaws 17.  I see that there are 2 versions. The tandem and the nontandem versions.  The tandem version allows for tandem sessions while the nontandem does not.

 

OK, my question.  What possible advantage could there be to downloading the nontandem version?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

 

 

**No one is totally worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.


Re: file index

Alan Robbins
 

Yes, same here with Win 10 ver 1607, and latest build of JAWS 18

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: file index

Hello Don,
Yes, when I press the insert up arrow command, I do receive the file
or folder name followed by the index number. In my documents folder
for example, when I press the insert up arrow command I get the name
of the folder followed by 2 of 78. This is with JAWS18 on a Windows10
machine.


On 5/27/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
I sent a question to VFO tech support concerning how to get Jaws to give
a index number when arrowing down a list of files and folders in file
explorer. In other words when arrowing down the file name is spoken
followed by 1 of 20 etc. Their suggestion was to use insert up arrow to
get this info. When I do this it repeats the line I am on but does not
include a index number. Anyone getting the insert up arrow to give a
index number?
Thanks