Date   

jaws and system tray

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. using insert f 11 to get to the system tray, and then went to the start menu, alt enter for properties, then turn on and off system icons. Marvin.


Re: Speaking percentage in copy or move dialogs in Windows 10

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Joseph,
 
Is this, More Information, checkbox available in Windows 7?  And if so, how would I access this checkbox to check it?  For the future, how is the,More Information, checkbox accessed in Windows 10?  Thank you very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking percentage in copy or move dialogs in Windows 10

Hi,
Is "more information" checkbox checked in copy dialog?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Speaking percentage in copy or move dialogs in Windows 10

I have noticed that sometimes JAWS will speak the percentage of completion
in the copy or move dialogs in Windows 10, and sometimes it won't. Any ideas
on this? Is my problem a screen resolution or color setting, or do I need to
get my hands dirty (ha ha) and write a script for it?






Re: Speaking percentage in copy or move dialogs in Windows 10

 

Hi,
Is "more information" checkbox checked in copy dialog?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Speaking percentage in copy or move dialogs in Windows 10

I have noticed that sometimes JAWS will speak the percentage of completion
in the copy or move dialogs in Windows 10, and sometimes it won't. Any ideas
on this? Is my problem a screen resolution or color setting, or do I need to
get my hands dirty (ha ha) and write a script for it?


Speaking percentage in copy or move dialogs in Windows 10

Steve Matzura
 

I have noticed that sometimes JAWS will speak the percentage of
completion in the copy or move dialogs in Windows 10, and sometimes it
won't. Any ideas on this? Is my problem a screen resolution or color
setting, or do I need to get my hands dirty (ha ha) and write a script
for it?


Re: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

Dave...
 

Check your calendar folders. Are the ones you use checked? Also make sure your view settings had not changed -- are you now in side-by-mode, rather than overlaid, for example?
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 19:55
Subject: Re: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

I am not using Icloud  I am using a PC.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

 

Rick,

 

When in any inbox, do a Ctrl Y command, then go to bottom of tree, right arrow to open ICloud and arrow down to calendar and make sure you select it. If you can’t open the tree, you have gotten signed out of ICloud somehow. Also, the family  calendar or another may have gotten selected by mistake. This has happened to me in the past

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

 

Dear Listers:

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 18.

 

I have done something that has messed up my Outlook calendar.  My calendar appears to be closed, and just arrowing to the right or hitting the Enter key will not open it.  And even when it is open, not all of my appointments appear on the given date.  What can I do to fix all this?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


Re: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

Rick Miller
 

I am not using Icloud.  I am using a PC.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

 

Rick,

 

When in any inbox, do a Ctrl Y command, then go to bottom of tree, right arrow to open ICloud and arrow down to calendar and make sure you select it. If you can’t open the tree, you have gotten signed out of ICloud somehow. Also, the family  calendar or another may have gotten selected by mistake. This has happened to me in the past

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I've Messed Up my Outlook Calendar

 

Dear Listers:

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 18.

 

I have done something that has messed up my Outlook calendar.  My calendar appears to be closed, and just arrowing to the right or hitting the Enter key will not open it.  And even when it is open, not all of my appointments appear on the given date.  What can I do to fix all this?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Russell Solowoniuk
 

I haven't used the Outlook calenar in the online version of Outlook yet. I'll probably get a chance to look at it in the next week and will report back. I haven't tried the online version of Word yet either.

Good luck.

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adekoya Rasak
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hello Russell,

I am now using the light version on microsoft online. quite similar to
that of gmail. Please, does the calendar work well with the light
version? are there no key stroke like Alt +I for inbox as we have in
gmail? how do I use word online?

I will be glad you help with these questions.

Thank you.

On 14/06/2017, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me know if it works leaving the question mark in.
On Jun 13, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<Pamela.A.Ekstrand.-ND@disney.com> wrote:

Thanks, Russell, I will try that. I had gotten the message "Bad request"
when I tried the manual method, but I had removed the question mark.
Thanks for that clarification.

Pam
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Russell
Solowoniuk [rsolowoniuk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hi Pam,

I wasn’t able to find the Settings link either, but, by following the
below manual steps, it temporarily puts you in the light version. From
there you just need to look for an “Options” link, click on that, go to
Outlook versions, enter on that, and then check “Change to light version”
or something similar. You must then arrow up to the save button and enter
on it, log out and then the next time you log in, you should be in the
light view. Make sure you delete everything after the question mark (?) in
the URL, but not the question mark itself before you enter layout=light.
Good luck.

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com><http://outlook.yourinstitution.com>),
look at the address bar, it will probably start with something like the
following: https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blahblahblah
Just go and delete the blahblahblah part, and put in layout=light, so the
new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light

Russell
On Jun 13, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<Pamela.A.Ekstrand.-ND@disney.com<mailto:ND@disney.com>> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to find the settings gear that is
referenced in these links?

I went back to using Internet Explorer 8 because the mail interface
changed so drastically and became too inefficient. It still works fine
there, but I would like to go to IE 11.

I am trying to change to the light interface using Firefox or Chrome in
order to test that, but I am not finding the settings.

Thanks for any help.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] on behalf of Russell
Solowoniuk [rsolowoniuk@gmail.com<mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hi,

Here are the instructions.
If the following websites instructions don’t work by changing it in the
settings, then try the below directions:
Proper way, via settings:
https://msonlinehelpdesk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205104708-Switch-Outlook-Web-App-to-use-the-light-weight-classic-look-for-lower-bandwidth-consumption-or-other-reasons

Another site:
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com>), look at
the address bar, it will probably start with something like the following:
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blahblahblah
Just go and delete the blahblahblah part, and put in layout=light, so the
new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light

HTH

Russell
On Jun 12, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Adekoya Rasak
<rasakadekoya@gmail.com<mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com>> wrote:

hello.
How do I change to the like version.
Please guide me on this.

On 12/06/2017, Russell Solowoniuk
<rsolowoniuk@gmail.com<mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, I can second the advice to switch to the Light version of Outlook
web
access. My workplace also just moved from Groupwise to Outlook last week,
and thankfully a friend had told me earlier about the Outlook Light
version.
It works great.

Good luck.

Russell
On Jun 12, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Jim Fettgather
<jimfettgather@gmail.com<mailto:jimfettgather@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello, I have found that by far, the most helpful and important option
to change is in Options, outlook version, and to use the lite mode.
Then, you are not presented with Tree Views which are highly difficult
to navigate, but a more typical interface, very similar to Gmail's
Basic HTML version, all check boxes and links are very clearly
labeled, and Outlook on the web in lite mode is very useable.
Thanks.



On 6/12/17, Adekoya Rasak
<rasakadekoya@gmail.com<mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello All,

My office just switch to office 365 and I need to know how to access
my company email using microsoftonline.com<http://microsoftonline.com> to
access my email in the
situation when I am not at office. I login to the page and signed in
successfully but I have challenge navigating the web page.
I will be usinng the web app soon but not yet.
any help guys. any one with experience on this.

Regard.

--
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|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com<mailto:radekoya@kemonics.com>
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29














--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com<mailto:radekoya@kemonics.com>
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29
















--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29


Re: Jaws updates

Russell Solowoniuk
 

You're welcome!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Thank you. I mistakenly thought 64 bit meant pro and 32 bit meant home version. Now I get it. Thanks.

Shirley Tracy
author
OPERATION CODE CHARLIE
now available at major book sellers

---- Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:

=============
Hi Shirley,

At one time, if you had a Pro version of Windows, you would need to purchase the Pro version of Jaws, but that is no longer the case. You can run Jaws Home edition on a Windows Pro version, but you still must get the correct version of Jaws, either a 32 or 64 bit version, depending on whether you have a 32 or 64 bit version of Windows. If your computer is relatively new it’s most likely a 64 bit.

HTH.

Russell
On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Shirley Tracy <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

Okay, I'm going to show my technology ignorance here. I had to have a professional computer years ago for my job. Back then, I purchased the JAWS professional software because I was told I had to use it; they said 32 wouldn't work. So now, I still have a professional machine--are you saying that I can use the home version (32) instead of professional (64)?

Shirley
---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
I don't think Jaws Home allows for Remote Desktop connections, if you don't use that there really is not much of a reason any more to have Jaws Professional.
I don't think there is a difference regarding networking unless you consider Remote Desktop networking. Other than that your network features are determined by the edition of Windows you have.
It used to be that if you had Windows XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro that you also had to have Jaws Professional, but this is no longer the case.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

I sent that before the correction about the price appeared. What I originally meant to say was, if the Pro edition costs the same, go for the gusto. When I get out of Happy Valley, I will probably change to Home. As I recall, the features are the same, and it's more or less the honor system.

Ted

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Because the professional version has remote networking, and possibly Tandem Direct.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Then why bother with the home edition?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?



















































Re: reliable daisy reader

Cristóbal
 

QRead is solid.
https://q-continuum.net/qread/
It's something like $30.00. I use it for all my eBook reading on the PC. Daisy or otherwise.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reliable daisy reader

What I need is to be able to read a book using jaws. This kind of book require a lot of focus in details. I was trying to use Fs, but this program is not doing a good job since 3 or 4 years ago. However I am using Kurzweil that is able to open the daisy book, and save the document as a word document. It is exactly what I need.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reliable daisy reader

Also, there is a tool called "aymis" available from daisy.org

On 14/06/2017, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
Check:

laz@talkingmp3players.com

Best from,

Carolyn




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reliable daisy reader

Hi all,

Anybody knows a daisy book reader more reliable than FS reader?

I have been facing this problem since years ago, and for all jaws
updates. When I open a large book, this daisy reader crash. I need to
read a school book, and I can't do that with Fs because always the
program crash no matter which book I am opening. Looks like Fs doesn't
handle very well large documents . Any advice?

Any other daisy book reader to be used in the computer?



Thanks in advance for all,









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Re: windows 10 moving system tray items with jaws 18

Shannon
 

Marvin, what keystroke are you using to get to the system tray? It is my understanding, that Windows key B, reveals a great deal more. Just a thought.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:16 PM, marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...> wrote:

Hi, in windows 10, is there a way to move the system tray items, did a avg pc tune up, as my machine was getting a little sluggish and installed some Toshiba system utilities. So, is there a way to do this. And also my drop box is missing from my system tray, but when I hlook at the list of icons, says it is checked.

Marvin.


windows 10 moving system tray items with jaws 18

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi, in windows 10, is there a way to move the system tray items, did a avg pc tune up, as my machine was getting a little sluggish and installed some Toshiba system utilities. So, is there a way to do this. And also my drop box is missing from my system tray, but when I hlook at the list of icons, says it is checked.

Marvin.


Re: Jaws updates

Dave...
 

Shirley, yes.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Tracy" <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 15:04
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Okay, I'm going to show my technology ignorance here. I had to have a
professional computer years ago for my job. Back then, I purchased the JAWS
professional software because I was told I had to use it; they said 32
wouldn't work. So now, I still have a professional machine--are you saying
that I can use the home version (32) instead of professional (64)?

Shirley
---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
I don't think Jaws Home allows for Remote Desktop connections, if you don't
use that there really is not much of a reason any more to have Jaws
Professional.
I don't think there is a difference regarding networking unless you consider
Remote Desktop networking. Other than that your network features are
determined by the edition of Windows you have.
It used to be that if you had Windows XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro that you also
had to have Jaws Professional, but this is no longer the case.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

I sent that before the correction about the price appeared. What I
originally meant to say was, if the Pro edition costs the same, go for the
gusto. When I get out of Happy Valley, I will probably change to Home. As
I recall, the features are the same, and it's more or less the honor system.

Ted

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Because the professional version has remote networking, and possibly Tandem
Direct.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Then why bother with the home edition?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: Jaws updates

Dave...
 

Sieghard,

So I've heard already. But given that both versions have the same features,
why pay more?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 14:13
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Dave, that is definitely not correct, the SMA for Jaws Professional is more
expensive just as the software itself if you buy it for the first time is
more expensive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: bullets

brian albriton
 

When in the list of punctuation in the settings center, how do you quickly locate things like bullets?
With a period for instance you simply type a period. Bullets seems a bit more obscure.
Arrow a bunch of times of course and you can find it as I did.
Boy was I surprised when I found how it was indicated.
That's a fun list of punctuation by the way. It seems to include some things from other languages. Really neat!
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: bullets

I have mine set on none, but I believe it reads bullets. You could -

1. Get your cursor on a bullet.
2. Copy character by pressing Shift, right-Arrow and C.
3. Press Insert-D.
4. Press Shift-Control-D. Then enter.
5. Control-V to paste bullet.
6. Tab to the next tab and put in a Spacebar.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Alt-F4 to exit the Dictionary.
9. Save changes as it asks on the way out of the Dictionary.

Then you should not hear any bullets.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: bullets

You may wish to consider going to customize punctuation in the setting center, and select which punctuation marks you want to hear.
1. Jaws Manager Jaws key plus F 2
2. Press S until you get Settings Center 3. Press enter 4. type punctuation in the search edit field (Here you may be instructed to press control shift D for default all applications).
5. arrow down to Customize Punctuation
6.
Press space bar
7. Arrow down through the list of punctuation marks, and select whether you want none, some, most, or all.
8. Tab to the okay button, and press enter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: June 14, 2017 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bullets

I have my punctuation set to some in Jaws 18. On web pages I still hear the announcement of bullets. Is there a way to have Jaws not say bullet? Is there a way to specify exactly what punctuation and other symbols you want or not read?
Thanks


Re: Image burn?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I use Rufus. The Jaws cursor is required at times. but it is a good program and it's free. It has an installer or a stand alone (portable) program.

On 6/14/2017 7:07 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:

It’s good you may need to use your Jaws curser some times!

 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Image burn?

 

Hi gang: Does anyone know about burning a system disk image with ImageBurn? How accessible with JAWS?

 

 

 

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Re: bullets

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have mine set on none, but I believe it reads bullets. You could -

1. Get your cursor on a bullet.
2. Copy character by pressing Shift, right-Arrow and C.
3. Press Insert-D.
4. Press Shift-Control-D. Then enter.
5. Control-V to paste bullet.
6. Tab to the next tab and put in a Spacebar.
7. Tab to OK.
8. Alt-F4 to exit the Dictionary.
9. Save changes as it asks on the way out of the Dictionary.

Then you should not hear any bullets.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: bullets

You may wish to consider going to customize punctuation in the setting center, and select which punctuation marks you want to hear.
1. Jaws Manager Jaws key plus F 2
2. Press S until you get Settings Center 3. Press enter 4. type punctuation in the search edit field (Here you may be instructed to press control shift D for default all applications).
5. arrow down to Customize Punctuation
6.
Press space bar
7. Arrow down through the list of punctuation marks, and select whether you want none, some, most, or all.
8. Tab to the okay button, and press enter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: June 14, 2017 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bullets

I have my punctuation set to some in Jaws 18. On web pages I still hear the announcement of bullets. Is there a way to have Jaws not say bullet? Is there a way to specify exactly what punctuation and other symbols you want or not read?
Thanks


Re: Jaws updates

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you. I mistakenly thought 64 bit meant pro and 32 bit meant home version. Now I get it. Thanks.

Shirley Tracy
author
OPERATION CODE CHARLIE
now available at major book sellers

---- Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:

=============
Hi Shirley,

At one time, if you had a Pro version of Windows, you would need to purchase the Pro version of Jaws, but that is no longer the case. You can run Jaws Home edition on a Windows Pro version, but you still must get the correct version of Jaws, either a 32 or 64 bit version, depending on whether you have a 32 or 64 bit version of Windows. If your computer is relatively new it’s most likely a 64 bit.

HTH.

Russell

On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Shirley Tracy <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

Okay, I'm going to show my technology ignorance here. I had to have a professional computer years ago for my job. Back then, I purchased the JAWS professional software because I was told I had to use it; they said 32 wouldn't work. So now, I still have a professional machine--are you saying that I can use the home version (32) instead of professional (64)?

Shirley
---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
I don't think Jaws Home allows for Remote Desktop connections, if you don't use that there really is not much of a reason any more to have Jaws Professional.
I don't think there is a difference regarding networking unless you consider Remote Desktop networking. Other than that your network features are determined by the edition of Windows you have.
It used to be that if you had Windows XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro that you also had to have Jaws Professional, but this is no longer the case.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

I sent that before the correction about the price appeared. What I originally meant to say was, if the Pro edition costs the same, go for the gusto. When I get out of Happy Valley, I will probably change to Home. As I recall, the features are the same, and it's more or less the honor system.

Ted

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Because the professional version has remote networking, and possibly Tandem Direct.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Then why bother with the home edition?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?



















































Re: Jaws updates

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Shirley,

At one time, if you had a Pro version of Windows, you would need to purchase the Pro version of Jaws, but that is no longer the case. You can run Jaws Home edition on a Windows Pro version, but you still must get the correct version of Jaws, either a 32 or 64 bit version, depending on whether you have a 32 or 64 bit version of Windows. If your computer is relatively new it’s most likely a 64 bit.

HTH.

Russell

On Jun 14, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Shirley Tracy <stracy5@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

Okay, I'm going to show my technology ignorance here. I had to have a professional computer years ago for my job. Back then, I purchased the JAWS professional software because I was told I had to use it; they said 32 wouldn't work. So now, I still have a professional machine--are you saying that I can use the home version (32) instead of professional (64)?

Shirley
---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
I don't think Jaws Home allows for Remote Desktop connections, if you don't use that there really is not much of a reason any more to have Jaws Professional.
I don't think there is a difference regarding networking unless you consider Remote Desktop networking. Other than that your network features are determined by the edition of Windows you have.
It used to be that if you had Windows XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro that you also had to have Jaws Professional, but this is no longer the case.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

I sent that before the correction about the price appeared. What I originally meant to say was, if the Pro edition costs the same, go for the gusto. When I get out of Happy Valley, I will probably change to Home. As I recall, the features are the same, and it's more or less the honor system.

Ted

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Because the professional version has remote networking, and possibly Tandem Direct.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Then why bother with the home edition?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?



















































Re: Jaws updates

Shirley Tracy
 

Okay, I'm going to show my technology ignorance here. I had to have a professional computer years ago for my job. Back then, I purchased the JAWS professional software because I was told I had to use it; they said 32 wouldn't work. So now, I still have a professional machine--are you saying that I can use the home version (32) instead of professional (64)?

Shirley
---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

=============
I don't think Jaws Home allows for Remote Desktop connections, if you don't use that there really is not much of a reason any more to have Jaws Professional.
I don't think there is a difference regarding networking unless you consider Remote Desktop networking. Other than that your network features are determined by the edition of Windows you have.
It used to be that if you had Windows XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro that you also had to have Jaws Professional, but this is no longer the case.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

I sent that before the correction about the price appeared. What I originally meant to say was, if the Pro edition costs the same, go for the gusto. When I get out of Happy Valley, I will probably change to Home. As I recall, the features are the same, and it's more or less the honor system.

Ted

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Because the professional version has remote networking, and possibly Tandem Direct.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Then why bother with the home edition?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
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containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: Jaws updates

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Yes, this is true. The SMA for the Professional version of Jaws is quite a bit higher than the Home version. The Pro and Home versions of Jaws are identical as far as I know. It’s just that FS, or, VFO now, charges more for the Pro version because it’s usually businesses, educational institutions, or government agencies who purchase the Pro versions. I really don’t like this practice. I’m not sure about the remote access or tandem direct features. I think you must pay extra for these features. I’m also not sure if there is a price difference for the Jaws software itself or just the SMAs.

Thanks,

Russell

On Jun 14, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Dave, that is definitely not correct, the SMA for Jaws Professional is more expensive just as the software itself if you buy it for the first time is more expensive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?