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moderated How to Read Kindle Books with Jaws Keyboard Commands

Ed Culpepper
 

I am not able to read Kindle books using Jaws keyboard commands. For example, I cannot use “Say All” (Jaws command Insert + down arrow) to read continuously. I have to use the Kindle command (Shift + spacebar) to toggle continuous reading on and off. With Kindle commands I can’t read word-by- word or other reading methods that would be possible with Jaws commands. I am missing something, but I have no idea what. I am running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 with latest updates. My Kindle for PC is version 1.28.0 (57030) updated 2/28/2020. I keep reading that Jaws is now able to read Kindle books with Jaws keyboard commands and that the Kindle Accessibility Plug-in is no longer needed. I want to be able to read and study Kindle books more efficiently. Please help.

and that the Kindle Accessibility Plug-in is no longer needed. I want to be able to read and study Kindle books more efficiently. Please help.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 

moderated Re: Speak On

james hooper
 

Are all 9 podcasts on speak on or something else?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speak On

 

Thanks.  I was just about to send you a message requesting where I could get the rest of your podcasts. Now I seem to have all 9.   

moderated Re: Speak On

David Griffith
 

Speak On Media Suite is a suite of up to 11 applications depending  on what plugins you install from within the app which provides a whole range of accessible applications designed to support Blind users.

Some of its features are targeted at UK users like access to RNIB Newsagent but others like access to Tunein Radio are available  world wide.

It includes a Daisy Book player and eBook Reader etc as well as three Podcast applications. Podcasts.

 

It is obviously too involved to describe in detail here.

 

I will just post my Podcast list again here and that will give some idea.

You will probably have to copy and paste the download links into a browser for them to work as I currently do not have time to go through and convert to links.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

Mailing List for Speak On

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/NeweUpdateMailingListContact/Mailing_list.html

 

Previous Speak On Media Podcast

 

Links are provided with SendSpace and DropBox.

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly   voice and  introduces you to the range of apps available by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8y09u2leqstfxa5/01%20Introduction%20Speak%20on%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books  and other content into  Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuj67i26b4f8dtk/02%20Getting%20Audio%20Books%20into%20Speak%20On%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqqvar1l0v66agi/03%20Playing%20Daisy%20and%20Audio%20Books%20in%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback  on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6prii2ctprlonak/04%20Reading%20eBooks%20on%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a  free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio  app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgwfljk44v2yp6o/05%20Radio%20with%20Speak%20on.mp3?dl=1

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a  daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service  and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gi9lhz98twk9mx/06%20Speak%20On%20and%20the%20RNIB%20Reading%20Service.mp3?dl=1

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4y5bhyzdhy9vz0/07%20Speak%20On%20and%20RNIB%20eText%20Newsagent.mp3?dl=1

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 2 Magazines.

This Podcast covers accessing the RNIB magazine service and the workaround needed if the RNIB has broken a link from a  Magazine to Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qde2fmple3c6gg1/08%20Speak%20On%2C%20RNIB%20and%20eText%20magazine%20.mp3?dl=1

 

 

09 Speak On and Podcasts.

 

This Podcast covers searching for a Podcast, subscribing to a Podcast by adding to Favourites, downloading Podcast, and browsing the Category Online directory Service.   As part of this it show how Speak On acts as a virtual BBC Sounds app. It also covers importing OPML files from another Podcast Reader and briefly covers the optional VI Podcast app which provides access to selected Podcasts of interest to Blind and Partially Sighted People.

Note For a demonstration of the third Podcast facility in Speak On , via the tunein  Radio   app  to download Podcasts and Radio  shows from that service,  please refer back to Podcast 5 on Internet Radio and Speak On.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tv8u7i

https://www.dropbox.com/s/88efq4jhsumskij/09Speak%20On%20and%20%20Podcasts.mp3?dl=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: 30 March 2020 20:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speak On

 

What is the speak on podcas about?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speak On

 

Thanks.  I was just about to send you a message requesting where I could get the rest of your podcasts. Now I seem to have all 9.   

moderated Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently

Mario
 

Mike, what version started using the myextensions method of adding personal extensions instead of appending the default jss file, was it version 18?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2020, 3:42 PM
Subject: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently
Do not follow my steps if you don't have a MyExtensions file in the ENU
folder!  As a matter fact, don't follow my steps at all!  It's been a
long time since my, myExtensions.jss, file was created and I know I'm
missing some steps that are crucial to creating this file!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because
noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is
temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mario <mailto:mrb620@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2020 12:20 PM
*Subject:* Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it
efficiently

it is not recommended to append your scripts to the default scripts
anymore. instead, write them in the my extensions.jss file (actually,
the file name does not have a space between my and extensions.).

the following are two responses about this by Mike B:

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info
regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole
file into the default and compile. I can't explain this very well, but
I'll send this message to someone that can. In the meantime there's a
download  link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vawsaear5lvks02/My%20Extensions%20Tutorials%2C%202%20Parts.zip?dl=1

Here's a little better explanation. When I want to add or modify a
script I do the following.
1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu &
press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into
the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the
contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad. In
Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done,
I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use
the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open
it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile. This
way my default JKM file stays
in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing
with the default JKM file that's already in place.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:42 PM
Subject: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it
efficiently
Hello!

I want to write some scripts for JAWS, then share them with others.
These scripts shall work with all applications, but I don’t want to
break other peoples customizations, so putting this in the default file
is out of the question. What else can I do?

moderated Re: Speak On

Justin Williams
 

What is the speak on podcas about?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speak On

 

Thanks.  I was just about to send you a message requesting where I could get the rest of your podcasts. Now I seem to have all 9.   

moderated Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently

Mike B
 


Do not follow my steps if you don't have a MyExtensions file in the ENU folder!  As a matter fact, don't follow my steps at all!  It's been a long time since my, myExtensions.jss, file was created and I know I'm missing some steps that are crucial to creating this file!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently

it is not recommended to append your scripts to the default scripts
anymore. instead, write them in the my extensions.jss file (actually,
the file name does not have a space between my and extensions.).

the following are two responses about this by Mike B:

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info
regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole
file into the default and compile. I can't explain this very well, but
I'll send this message to someone that can. In the meantime there's a
download  link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vawsaear5lvks02/My%20Extensions%20Tutorials%2C%202%20Parts.zip?dl=1

Here's a little better explanation. When I want to add or modify a
script I do the following.
1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu &
press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into
the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the
contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad. In
Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done,
I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use
the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open
it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile. This
way my default JKM file stays
in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing
with the default JKM file that's already in place.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:42 PM
Subject: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it
efficiently
Hello!

I want to write some scripts for JAWS, then share them with others.
These scripts shall work with all applications, but I don’t want to
break other peoples customizations, so putting this in the default file
is out of the question. What else can I do?





moderated Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently

Mario
 

it is not recommended to append your scripts to the default scripts anymore. instead, write them in the my extensions.jss file (actually, the file name does not have a space between my and extensions.).

the following are two responses about this by Mike B:

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole file into the default and compile.  I can't explain this very well, but I'll send this message to someone that can.  In the meantime there's a download link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vawsaear5lvks02/My%20Extensions%20Tutorials%2C%202%20Parts.zip?dl=1

Here's a little better explanation.  When I want to add or modify a script I do the following.
1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu & press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad.  In Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done, I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile.  This way my default JKM file stays
in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing with the default JKM file that's already in place.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:42 PM
Subject: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently
Hello!

I want to write some scripts for JAWS, then share them with others.
These scripts shall work with all applications, but I don’t want to
break other peoples customizations, so putting this in the default file
is out of the question. What else can I do?

moderated Re: Speak On

David Diamond
 

Thanks.  I was just about to send you a message requesting where I could get the rest of your podcasts. Now I seem to have all 9.   

moderated Re: Does Anyone Ever Have This Situation?

David Diamond
 

I also suggest as Brian alluded to, call Freedom or whatever they are called these days and report it.  Why?  Because your allotment of licenses could have run out.  Phone Freedom and they will fix the problem.  I am probably uses the wrong term here.  However, I’ve had a few computers that have crashed and have been unrepairable, it was cheaper to get a new computer in the long run. Telling Freedom about this they just reset the # of computers that could use JAWS.  The same with Open book.   

moderated Re: Does Anyone Ever Have This Situation?

 

Have you contacted Freedom Scientific Support about this?   If not, you should as your first order of business.   It's unlikely you're the only user who has had this quirk occur and very often you'll be walked through the solution in minutes.   If not, at least Freedom Scientific now has the issue recorded.

There really are times when turning to product technical support should be the first thing you do.  Reporting afterward on the outcome, and asking questions on a group, comes next.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Does Anyone Ever Have This Situation?

Bill White
 

Hi again, Annabelle. This happens because, when you install new hardware on your machine, it becomes a completely different machine as far as JAWS is concerned. If they did not do this, anyone could install JAWS on any machine, and run it in registered mode without paying for it.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Does Anyone Ever Have This Situation?

 

And how did you fix it? Basically what seems to happen is, my activation license for JAWS always seems to get lost and makes it run in demo mode. Even more confusing is the fact that the serial number tends to default to 801 when this happens, and the locking code changes as well. It mostly happens whenever I install new hardware on my machine. I wish I didn't have to reset my activation keys and reactivate JAWS when I install new or existing hardware drivers.

moderated Does Anyone Ever Have This Situation?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

And how did you fix it? Basically what seems to happen is, my activation license for JAWS always seems to get lost and makes it run in demo mode. Even more confusing is the fact that the serial number tends to default to 801 when this happens, and the locking code changes as well. It mostly happens whenever I install new hardware on my machine. I wish I didn't have to reset my activation keys and reactivate JAWS when I install new or existing hardware drivers.

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Bill White
 

Hi, Annabelle. Hardware accelleration is just what it says. It's designed to
make Firefox work faster, but when used with speech, it causes problems. It
is not a requirement to run Firefox. If it were, there would not be an
option to not use it.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I may have figured out why Firefox stops responding. I went into the
Advanced tab of the Options dialog box, and I found a parameter called
"Hardware Acceleration". I unchecked the checkbox, and booooooom! It works
again! Yaaaayyyyy! However, I'm confused as to what this "Hardware
Acceleration" thing is. What does it do? And most of all, is it a
requirement in order to run Firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you
have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until
I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























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How do
you spend it?

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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I think I may have figured out why Firefox stops responding. I went into the
Advanced tab of the Options dialog box, and I found a parameter called
"Hardware Acceleration". I unchecked the checkbox, and booooooom! It works
again! Yaaaayyyyy! However, I'm confused as to what this "Hardware
Acceleration" thing is. What does it do? And most of all, is it a
requirement in order to run Firefox?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you
have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until
I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























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moderated Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Mike B
 

This part is above my pay grade and I had help with this, but yes the keystroke you want is put into the Default JKM file.  This is what my default JKM file looks like.
 
[Desktop Keys]
Shift+Control+1=MenuListScript
[Modifiers]
insert=17|3|0|2|0|0|0x402
numinsert=26|1|0|1|0|0|0x402
extinsert=11|3|0|1|0|0|0x402
I'm going to have someone of much higher power look at this thread and I think he'll have a solution.
 
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Cool!  I never thought about that.  Do you manually put the key assignment into the jkm?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Dennis,

 

Here's a little better explanation.  When I want to add or modify a script I do the following.

1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu & press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad.  In Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done, I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile.  This way my default JKM file stays in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing with the default JKM file that's already in place.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis Brown

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Thanks, Mike.  I’ll take a look at this.

Dennis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi Dennis,

 

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole file into the default and compile.  I can't explain this very well, but I'll send this message to someone that can.  In the meantime there's a download link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

 

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis Brown

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 AM

Subject: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?

moderated Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center

Mike B
 

Here's what the dialogue should read:
 
This check box allows you to enable or disable automatic language detection. If you select this check box, JAWS detects changes in languages within documents which support language tags and then reads using the appropriate synthesizer voice for that language.
For example, if JAWS finds Spanish text on a Web page, that text is spoken using a Spanish voice. This detection only affects those synthesizers,
such as Eloquence or Vocalizer Expressive, that support multiple languages.
If you clear this check box, JAWS does not change the voice of the synthesizer when reading text written in another language.
By default, this option is checked in all applications except Microsoft Outlook.

 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center

If you arrow to general> text processing, you will hear that same description about overall behavior. Looks like someone mislabeled detect keyboard language. The error exists as far back as JFW 18, for what it's worth.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center

Nothing really serious, but here it is:

Detect keyboard language has a label that says

Use the options in this group to control overall speech behavior.

That is not quite correct, is it?

moderated Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hello!

I want to write some scripts for JAWS, then share them with others. These scripts shall work with all applications, but I don’t want to break other peoples customizations, so putting this in the default file is out of the question. What else can I do?

moderated Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Dennis Brown
 

Cool!  I never thought about that.  Do you manually put the key assignment into the jkm?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Dennis,

 

Here's a little better explanation.  When I want to add or modify a script I do the following.

1. Open the Jaws Manager, with, Insert + F2, & open the Scripts Manager.
2. With the Script Manager open press, Alt + F, for the file menu & press the letter, E, to open the Shared File folder, shift + tab into the list of shared folders, & navigate to the, My Extensions JSS file.
3. Open the My Extensions JSS file, press, Control + A to select all the contents, then paste the contents of the clipboard into Notepad.  In Notepad is where I do all my editing and when I get all my editing done, I copy all the content of the Notepad text to the clipboard, then I use the steps from #2 above to go back to the My Extensions.JSS file, open it and delete the contents, Paste my edited text, and now compile.  This way my default JKM file stays in tact and now the same keystroke opens the menu list without screwing with the default JKM file that's already in place.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Thanks, Mike.  I’ll take a look at this.

Dennis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi Dennis,

 

When I add a script to My Extensions I do it manually because other info regarding the script needs to be added as well, then I put the whole file into the default and compile.  I can't explain this very well, but I'll send this message to someone that can.  In the meantime there's a download link below for 2 tutorials regarding the My Extensions & scripts.

 

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 AM

Subject: A couple of Jaws problems

 

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?

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moderated Re: For Hank, RE: sorry I am off topic, re the blindtech list for from where please can I maybe buy a new voice activated dvd player or voice activated universal remote control

 

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 01:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And another option on Groups.io is the Blind Help Project:  https://groups.io/g/bhp
I'm sorry I have to post this, but I retract any recommendation of the above mentioned group.  It is little beyond a den of software pirates, encouraging conversation of cracked versions of all sorts of software, including but not limited to JAWS.   I had not realized this upon joining and doing a quick reading of recent topics, but then the next flood of, "Is a cracked version of . . .?," conversations came flooding in.  Their own organization webpage openly hosts cracked software.

Avoid them like the plague.
 
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