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moderated JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit systems, what's new in this release and a link to the FSCast that has demonstrations.
 
 
Download Link 32 & 64 Bit:
 
 

• FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features in the upcoming 2021 release.
 
 
 
• New Features in 2021
 
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021
PictureSmart Improvements
 
Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then displayed
in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can then press A to describe
a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to describe the current control,
or B to describe an image on the Windows Clipboard.
 
JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several improvements including:
 
list of 3 items
• Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that is part of a web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed
by C now describes the photo.
• Submitting images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By default, images are submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the Results Viewer
now contains a More Results link which submits the image again to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated description. You can also add
SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use multiple services. For example, INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B.
• Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion in a language other than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS
and Fusion will use machine translation to display descriptions in the particular language. You can also manually choose from 38 languages for displaying
results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language option in Settings Center.
list end
 
Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for other languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as expected.
Results will improve as we continue refining this functionality.
 
For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help.
 
OCR Text Directly into a Word Document
 
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been enhanced to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables
you to access images containing text that is part of the image and displays this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images such
as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF opened in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a
document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner.
 
If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now:
 
list of 2 items
• Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to perform OCR on a selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and place the recognized
text directly into a Word document. You can also press the APPLICATIONS key and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu.
• Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the Results Viewer once the OCR process is complete.
list end
 
For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS help.
 
New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Commands and Features
 
The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include English,
Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the same action
can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings Center, you could
say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands are an easier way to interact
with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using voice input to control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain conditions which prevent them from
using a keyboard effectively.
 
The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice Assistant
to begin listening for a specific command, there are three options:
 
list of 2 items
• Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for ZoomText and Fusion).
• Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin listening for a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake
word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list
links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level."
list end
 
Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the voice command.
 
list of 1 items
• From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText
or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText.
list end
 
When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short audio indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a voice
command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is processed. After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different, short, audio
indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is performed.
 
If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or if
the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t catch that" is spoken.
 
Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay depending
on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and will continue
to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions and feedback.
 
To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds, do
one of the following:
 
list of 2 items
• For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Settings.
• For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the Voice Assistant drop down button, and select Settings.
list end
 
To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting Started
from the Voice Assistant menu.
 
Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started.
 
For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
• Help
• Talk faster
• Talk slower
• Change settings
• Command search
• What time is it
• OCR PDF
• List links
• List headings
• List spelling errors
list end
 
For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
• Increase zoom level
• Zoom out
• Set zoom level to 5
• Where is my focus
• What time is it
• Activate speech
• Talk faster
• Open Reader app view
• Launch finder
• Change the color enhancement scheme
list end
 
Improved Microsoft Teams Support
list of 6 items
• If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which opens the inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC to return to the files list. You
are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the document in the desktop application, which is the suggested method.
• You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the first five tab pages.
• Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back button from anywhere in Teams.
• You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress.
• You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view, if visible. Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the
teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized to ensure this control is visible.
• Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting.
list end
 
Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select the
check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS specific
keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode, Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing CTRL+PERIOD.
 
New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
 
You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the four punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak
while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All. Similar to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the punctuation
level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS Startup Wizard or
Settings Center.
 
Announce Most Recent Windows Notification
 
You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N to have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications include
an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press RIGHT
SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows notifications, use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A.
 
FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information
 
The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software Development
teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run this utility
during a technical support session if it is determined that additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is collected includes:
 
list of 9 items
• System information such as processor, RAM, operating system, architecture, and more
• Event logs
• Version of Adobe Reader (if installed)
• Versions of all installed web browsers
• Information on installed Microsoft Office applications
• Crash dumps
• Installation logs
• Currently running system processes
• User settings
list end
 
The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and submitting
a report.
 
Announce Accessible Notification Events
 
By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of notifications
are found in a variety of places including business bars in Microsoft Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings Center and
clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!


moderated Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

Richard Turner
 

Good points, I don’t have an all-in-one but most should offer twain drivers, which work better because they are simple and straight forward and do not require any other software.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Shirley,

If you want to use it for Open Book, you’ll want to be sure you know which drivers it uses and what OpenBook requires.  I use Kurzweil 1000 and the scanner must run with TWAIN drivers to work.  My HP all in one printer cannot be set to work with Kurzweil.  I have an Epson desktop scanner at work that has TWAIN drivers.  This is food for thought, as I don’t know if Open Book also requires TWAIN drivers or if the scanner can have other drivers.  Also, maybe the person who suggested the Brother scanner is already clued into this aspect.  We just bought an Epson all-in-one printer that looks pretty simple, but we havent’ set it up, so I cannot tell you how easy it is to use yet. The reason we picked this one, over staying with HP, is that it has larger ink reservoirs that are supposed to e much cheaper to maintain.  We bought it at Staples and also bought the warranty/support option so we can have telephone support of any setup or maintenance issues for the next 4 or 5 years.   I once had a simple HP black and white laser printer that I loved. If I were doing a lot of printing, I’d go that route again, but this new printer purchase is for the family and needed more bells and whistles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully!

 

I’ll let you know what I end up with.

 

Cheers,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.

I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

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moderated Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks for reminding me about the TWAIN drivers. Yes, Open Book requires them, as best I remember.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Shirley,

If you want to use it for Open Book, you’ll want to be sure you know which drivers it uses and what OpenBook requires.  I use Kurzweil 1000 and the scanner must run with TWAIN drivers to work.  My HP all in one printer cannot be set to work with Kurzweil.  I have an Epson desktop scanner at work that has TWAIN drivers.  This is food for thought, as I don’t know if Open Book also requires TWAIN drivers or if the scanner can have other drivers.  Also, maybe the person who suggested the Brother scanner is already clued into this aspect.  We just bought an Epson all-in-one printer that looks pretty simple, but we havent’ set it up, so I cannot tell you how easy it is to use yet. The reason we picked this one, over staying with HP, is that it has larger ink reservoirs that are supposed to e much cheaper to maintain.  We bought it at Staples and also bought the warranty/support option so we can have telephone support of any setup or maintenance issues for the next 4 or 5 years.   I once had a simple HP black and white laser printer that I loved. If I were doing a lot of printing, I’d go that route again, but this new printer purchase is for the family and needed more bells and whistles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully!

 

I’ll let you know what I end up with.

 

Cheers,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.

I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

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moderated Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

Van Lant, Robin
 

Shirley,

If you want to use it for Open Book, you’ll want to be sure you know which drivers it uses and what OpenBook requires.  I use Kurzweil 1000 and the scanner must run with TWAIN drivers to work.  My HP all in one printer cannot be set to work with Kurzweil.  I have an Epson desktop scanner at work that has TWAIN drivers.  This is food for thought, as I don’t know if Open Book also requires TWAIN drivers or if the scanner can have other drivers.  Also, maybe the person who suggested the Brother scanner is already clued into this aspect.  We just bought an Epson all-in-one printer that looks pretty simple, but we havent’ set it up, so I cannot tell you how easy it is to use yet. The reason we picked this one, over staying with HP, is that it has larger ink reservoirs that are supposed to e much cheaper to maintain.  We bought it at Staples and also bought the warranty/support option so we can have telephone support of any setup or maintenance issues for the next 4 or 5 years.   I once had a simple HP black and white laser printer that I loved. If I were doing a lot of printing, I’d go that route again, but this new printer purchase is for the family and needed more bells and whistles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully!

 

I’ll let you know what I end up with.

 

Cheers,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.

I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

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moderated Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully!

 

I’ll let you know what I end up with.

 

Cheers,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.

I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

Richard Turner
 

We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.

I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

John Covici
 

I think that the safe mode feature did a registry hack to get the
sound driver into safe mode, so maybe you could find that hack and and
maybe Jaws would work in safe mode after all.

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:05:45 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]
Sadly, they never followed through with incorporating those features. The Safe Mode speech with Window-Eyes worked quite well.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com




And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS?



Gerald




On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.

Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.

Have a good day everyone.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com


-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.

On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com<mailto:blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io<mailto:jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io>> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.

On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@wi.rr.com<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com>> wrote:

Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin

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--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner

Joe
 

I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner

 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Richard Turner
 

Sadly, they never followed through with incorporating those features.  The Safe Mode speech with Window-Eyes worked quite well.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

 

And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS?  For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode.  If this feature actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS? 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.

Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.

It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes. 

I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.

They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.

I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.

But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market.  But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.  Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.

 

Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 

NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.


moderated Need help choosing printer/scanner

Shirley Tracy
 

Good morning list,

 

My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use  printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.

 

Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒    

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Gerald Levy
 


And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS?  For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode.  If this feature actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS? 


Gerald



On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.

Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.

It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes. 

I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.

They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.

I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.

But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market.  But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.  Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.

 

Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 

NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Richard Turner
 

Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.

Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.

It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes. 

I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.

They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.

I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.

But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market.  But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.  Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.

 

Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 

NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.


moderated Re: Describing the contents of a region?

Mario
 

Mark, if not already responded, the keystroke is insert+f1. hope this is what you're looking for.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mark [mailto:mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 7:41 PM
Subject: Describing the contents of a region?
Is there a command or script that would make JAWS describe the contents
of a region?  For example, it might say that the main region has 3
headings, 4 lists, 10 links, and so on. It could save time from figuring
it out more manually.


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Shan Noyes
 

Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market.  But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.  Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.

 

Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 

NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Richard Turner
 

Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.



On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.



On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Dan Longmore
 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Marty Hutchings
 

Knowing how Apple is about their stuff, could it be that they won’t work with FS to create JAWS scripts for iCloud or iTunes?  These are 2 pretty big main stream programs, and it is a little surprising at the lack of outcry for better accessibility.  I can get iTunes to work, although it is clunky, but iCloud is useless to me.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Using iCloud.com
 
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Randy Barnett
 

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Moving Between Sections in a Word Document

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

When quick keys is enabled in JAWS you can press S to move to the next section and shift-s to move to the previous section.

Pressing insert-z toggles Quick Keys on and off.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/7/2020 11:04 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Two thoughts.

First, the symbol marking a new section is ^k. Type these two characters into an MS Word search ()control-f), not a JAWS search (JAWS key-control-f) and press enter. You should be taken to the beginning of a new section. For the record, I haven't tried it because I don't divide documents this way.

Second, there may be another symbol to use when you go into quick navigation mode with JAWS key-z. In this mode, pressing h will take you to the next heading, etc. I haven't looked into whether there's such a symbol for sections.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 8:45 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Moving Between Se`ctions in a Word Document

Hi, Everyone.
Using JFW2018 and Word2016 with Win10. I have a large document with multiple sections that I need to look through. When I do an Ins+F1 JFW tells me what section I'm on and describes its margins; it also tells me how many sections my document has. But it seems there is no keystroke to move between sections. Is that right?

Thanks,
Dani




moderated Re: I can't figure out how to set up the brave browser. help please.

Chris Hill
 

It sounds like you somehow got to the ad-ons page.  You should be able to hit ctrl-l and type in whatever url you want to go to.  The only real setup is whether you want to set as default and turn on rewards.  That is what first came up when i installed it, and I just hit close.  If you want to import bookmarks or do any of that stuff, it should be in the menus.



On 9/9/2020 18:22, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all, I know you aren't supposed to cross post, but I am frustrated, and can't figure out what to do. first of all, I am running jaws 2020 on a windows ten computer. I have downloaded and installed the brave browser. Now that I have done that, I can't figure out how to set it up,. Frown. When I go to the brave browser icon on my desk top, and hit enter I HEAR jaws say the following.https://support.google.com/chrome_webstore/#topic=6243095obviously I should hear something differentgt.so how to set up the brave browser? And now that I have done it, is it really worth it, or is chrome just the same as brave? I would appreciate any help on setting up the brave browser. An thanks for your help. Jim

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