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moderated List Rules - Wed, 04/01/2020 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

List Rules

When:
Wednesday, 1 April 2020
12:00am to 1:00am
(GMT-04:00) America/New York

Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 

moderated Re: virtual machines

Majid Hussain
 

hi,
you say you don't have audio in windows server 2016?
if you download ntlite, and modifie the iso of windows server 2016
enableing the windows audio service, it may help?
the windows audio service is disabled by default.
Majid

On 31/03/2020, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:
Hi,



I am currently enrolled in Capella taking a Cisco hardware course, but the
virtual labs using virtual servers, routers, and switches are not
accessible. I had to rig up something at my home. I am currently using
VMware, with Windows server 2016. I have the remote license for my JAWS and
NVDA installed on the server. It works pretty good for me. The windows
server(evaluation) was free for 1080 days using the five possible resets.
To
get it all set up, you will need sighted help, but once set up, it works
pretty good. Contact me off list for more help.

Josham129@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: virtual machines



Hi. Using jaws 2020 , nvda 2019.3 windows 10 64 bit pro. On a assus laptop.
Doing a network course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au. Got a free
dedicated server for assignments from http://www.heropa.com. But only for
assignments and assessments. As their web tool is totally unuser friendly
and not accessible. Looking to rebuild. So looking for a free vm. Did sign
up for the vmware workstation education, but was rejected my application.
Not sure. And also listening to videos from http://www.pluralsight.com and
from http://www.linedinlearning.com. Vm ware player, asks for me to turn
off
credential guard manager and security settings, if people are familiar with
that. Now, tried that and when trying to install windows server 2016 iso,
could not turn that feature off. In vritual box, no way to turn the audio
on, and it kept either crashing or powering off. Hyper v manager the same.
So can any one doing a networking course, let me know. And Microsoft azure,
trying to set up a free student account, would not recognize my landline
voip phone. Don't have a mobile phone, credit card, paypal. And now, any
one
got any good recommendations for a free, accessible vm, that will work with
jaws, nvda, windows narrator. And able to then install such server os as
windows server 2008 r2, 2012, 2016, docker, etc.

Any ideas or help. Want to get my hands dirty and learn how to install,
configure and use networking. Any one got any ideas or in the same boat. My
college does not have a dedicated online server. Doing this online and with
about 11 other sighted students.

Any ideas. Help.

Thanks.








--
kind regards,
Majid Hussain

moderated Re: New Microsoft editor and enhanced grammar checker upcoming...!

Thabo Baseki
 

Hi Leo!

This is really exciting news my friend. I can’t wait to use these features, and I see an expansion of 365 subscribers.

Thanks for sharing.

Best
Thabo

JAWS certified-2020
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/Certification


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Leo <literophilus@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:54:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: New Microsoft editor and enhanced grammar checker upcoming...!
 

oops, I sent this to another mailing list, but her here it goes again...

Hi everyone,

a member of this list  passed alone this information on another thread, and I thought it might be of your interest. Read the information by clicking on
this link:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2020/03/30/introducing-new-microsoft-365-personal-family-subscriptions/



--
Best,
   Leo

moderated Re: Forcing Google Chrome to open PDFs with Adobe

Bill White
 

Hi again, Don and Cher. I was wrong in my last message. I just hadn’t found out how to cause PDF’s to be handled in a way other than to be opened in Google Chrome. I am right in that you cannot cause Google Chrome to open files in Adobe. However if you do the following, you can cause them to be downloaded, instead of opening in the browser.

 

1. Open Google Chrome.

2. Go to Settings.

3. Arrow down to Site Settings and press ENTER.

4. Go to Privacy and Security. TAB until you get to the PDF documents link and press ENTER.

5. Now choose the  Download PDF files instead of automatically opening them in Chrome button, and press SPACE.

 

Now, if you encounter a PDF file on a web page, you can download it, then view it in Adobe.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Forcing Google Chrome to open PDFs with Adobe

 

Where can I find a setting to tell Chrome to open PDFS in Adobe instead of the browser? Thanks very much for your assist 😊

 

Cher

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Leo
 

hmm too bad indeed!  I got some years late.


Best,
   Leo
On 3/31/2020 6:10 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

I’m a writer, but a few years ago I used Grammarly to help me edit a book I was writing. I had no trouble using the program back then. Now, several years later, I recommended it to a friend who uses JAWS, and she told me it was not very accessible. I got on the site just to see, and I hardly recognized the program. Not JAWS friendly and not blind friendly at all from what I can tell. Too bad.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Leo
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

Well, now that I've tried the extension for Microsoft word, I can tell from my own experience that it's

not accessible, well, really to be more accurate, it's accesible to some degree, which isn't much, but the navigation through the grammarly pain is too clumsy. I had to use touch cursor, which seems the only way to get through the pain, but still I found some unlabeled buttons. I requested sighted assistance to see if there was some kind of marker on the words or structures in which grammarly purportedly singled out as mistaken, and apparently, those words were underlined, but jaws 2020 didn't report any.

As for explaining why one might need a grammar checker, in my case it's very simple, I'm not a native English speaker, and even though a good strategy to learn a new language is thoroughly memorizing grammar rules, a language learner will always find linguistic pitfalls that are extremely  difficult to sort out. I said that I could move through the grammarly pain with difficulty, well, the words that the extension underlined were all awkward expressions, not exactly grammar mistakes, this is one of the reasons I really like grammarly, and I wish it were fully accessible. Hopefully, this new Microsoft editor will  vertiginous improve through its self-proclaimed AI the detection of such graceless and unnatural expressions. 

 

Best,
   Leo

On 3/31/2020 1:51 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Grammarly is supposedly much more comprehensive and so forth than what MS Word currently offers. That said, stayed tuned – I just saw a press release from MS about all the new features that are coming, including a powerful grammar checking and editing utility called “Microsoft Editor” that will be  as powerful as Grammarly at least. I think it’s a mistake to use those programmes myself, or maybe it’s just a personal thing for me, but hey, I guess if you feel it’s what you need, go to it. Anyway, the new mS app will be available with new editions of Office 365 and also downloadable as an extension for Edge and Chrome.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: March 31, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

I have office 365 with a built in spell checker which checks my spelling and grammar all the time when sending a message via email or even face book.  Subsequently, David why would you need Grammarly? Oh, I’m using JAWS 2020. With windows 10. I’ve not mastered using the iPhone to check my spelling, no matter what program I was using.    

 

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Leo
 

Well David, let me tell you that even though most kids struggle at some point or another with correct spelling, in this particular aspect of the language, English is far more difficult than some other languages. learning English is the most similar experience to learn two languages at once, even for a kid who has been born in an English-speaking country. The reason is very simple, Spoken English arbitrarily differs from written English by far. There are some general rules everybody can learn to match how English sounds and how it is written; however, there are a huge number of exceptions. It’s so crazy, that even rules drive me insane. For example, the vowel “a,” which is pretty common in the language, can be pronounced in at least 5 different ways as far as I recall, it would be six if I add the way it must be pronounced whenever it is placed before the “r” consonant, which is a control consonant and pushes out a longer and stronger sound. In Spanish, on the other hand, the vowel “a,” is always pronounced in the same way no matter where you find it.

 

 


Best,
   Leo
On 3/31/2020 5:07 PM, David Diamond wrote:

Leo, if it is any consolation for the first 5 years in an English school I was spelling ghost incorrectly, no one ever corrected my spelling till grade 5.  Using a spell checker really exposed my spelling and grammatical mistakes. Oh, English is my native language.  Appalling the scholastic system we have in North America.   

moderated Re: Forcing Google Chrome to open PDFs with Adobe

Bill White
 

Hi, Don and Cher. I use Google Chrome, and there seems to be no way to force an Adobe file to open in Adobe when using that browser.   

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Forcing Google Chrome to open PDFs with Adobe

 

Where can I find a setting to tell Chrome to open PDFS in Adobe instead of the browser? Thanks very much for your assist 😊

 

Cher

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Shirley Tracy
 

I’m a writer, but a few years ago I used Grammarly to help me edit a book I was writing. I had no trouble using the program back then. Now, several years later, I recommended it to a friend who uses JAWS, and she told me it was not very accessible. I got on the site just to see, and I hardly recognized the program. Not JAWS friendly and not blind friendly at all from what I can tell. Too bad.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Leo
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

Well, now that I've tried the extension for Microsoft word, I can tell from my own experience that it's

not accessible, well, really to be more accurate, it's accesible to some degree, which isn't much, but the navigation through the grammarly pain is too clumsy. I had to use touch cursor, which seems the only way to get through the pain, but still I found some unlabeled buttons. I requested sighted assistance to see if there was some kind of marker on the words or structures in which grammarly purportedly singled out as mistaken, and apparently, those words were underlined, but jaws 2020 didn't report any.

As for explaining why one might need a grammar checker, in my case it's very simple, I'm not a native English speaker, and even though a good strategy to learn a new language is thoroughly memorizing grammar rules, a language learner will always find linguistic pitfalls that are extremely  difficult to sort out. I said that I could move through the grammarly pain with difficulty, well, the words that the extension underlined were all awkward expressions, not exactly grammar mistakes, this is one of the reasons I really like grammarly, and I wish it were fully accessible. Hopefully, this new Microsoft editor will  vertiginous improve through its self-proclaimed AI the detection of such graceless and unnatural expressions. 

 

Best,
   Leo

On 3/31/2020 1:51 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Grammarly is supposedly much more comprehensive and so forth than what MS Word currently offers. That said, stayed tuned – I just saw a press release from MS about all the new features that are coming, including a powerful grammar checking and editing utility called “Microsoft Editor” that will be  as powerful as Grammarly at least. I think it’s a mistake to use those programmes myself, or maybe it’s just a personal thing for me, but hey, I guess if you feel it’s what you need, go to it. Anyway, the new mS app will be available with new editions of Office 365 and also downloadable as an extension for Edge and Chrome.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: March 31, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

I have office 365 with a built in spell checker which checks my spelling and grammar all the time when sending a message via email or even face book.  Subsequently, David why would you need Grammarly? Oh, I’m using JAWS 2020. With windows 10. I’ve not mastered using the iPhone to check my spelling, no matter what program I was using.    

 

moderated Forcing Google Chrome to open PDFs with Adobe

Don & Cher
 

Where can I find a setting to tell Chrome to open PDFS in Adobe instead of the browser? Thanks very much for your assist 😊

 

Cher

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Glenn / Lenny
 

Kids need to be taught Braille if they are reading text books by audio, and they should probably only get grade one Braille in elementary school, so they can learn to spell.
I know Blind folks who misspelled words because of using the contractions.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Leo, if it is any consolation for the first 5 years in an English school I was spelling ghost incorrectly, no one ever corrected my spelling till grade 5.  Using a spell checker really exposed my spelling and grammatical mistakes. Oh, English is my native language.  Appalling the scholastic system we have in North America.   

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

David Diamond
 

Leo, if it is any consolation for the first 5 years in an English school I was spelling ghost incorrectly, no one ever corrected my spelling till grade 5.  Using a spell checker really exposed my spelling and grammatical mistakes. Oh, English is my native language.  Appalling the scholastic system we have in North America.   

moderated New Microsoft editor and enhanced grammar checker upcoming...!

Leo
 

oops, I sent this to another mailing list, but her here it goes again...

Hi everyone,

a member of this list  passed alone this information on another thread, and I thought it might be of your interest. Read the information by clicking on
this link:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2020/03/30/introducing-new-microsoft-365-personal-family-subscriptions/



--
Best,
   Leo

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Leo
 

well I hope so..!


Best,
   Leo
On 3/31/2020 4:43 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Haha..interesting use of “vertiginous” there..I take it that was purposeful…

 

You don’t need to explain, I understand why someone *might* want to use such a thing. It’s not for me, but I am stubborn like that.

 

With the new mS Editor – what I can foresee is that in the beginning it will perhaps not be so accessible, but as screen-reader developers tend to work somewhat more closely with microsoft, it will probably become better over time.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: March 31, 2020 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

Well, now that I've tried the extension for Microsoft word, I can tell from my own experience that it's

not accessible, well, really to be more accurate, it's accesible to some degree, which isn't much, but the navigation through the grammarly pain is too clumsy. I had to use touch cursor, which seems the only way to get through the pain, but still I found some unlabeled buttons. I requested sighted assistance to see if there was some kind of marker on the words or structures in which grammarly purportedly singled out as mistaken, and apparently, those words were underlined, but jaws 2020 didn't report any.

As for explaining why one might need a grammar checker, in my case it's very simple, I'm not a native English speaker, and even though a good strategy to learn a new language is thoroughly memorizing grammar rules, a language learner will always find linguistic pitfalls that are extremely  difficult to sort out. I said that I could move through the grammarly pain with difficulty, well, the words that the extension underlined were all awkward expressions, not exactly grammar mistakes, this is one of the reasons I really like grammarly, and I wish it were fully accessible. Hopefully, this new Microsoft editor will  vertiginous improve through its self-proclaimed AI the detection of such graceless and unnatural expressions. 

 

Best,
   Leo

On 3/31/2020 1:51 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Grammarly is supposedly much more comprehensive and so forth than what MS Word currently offers. That said, stayed tuned – I just saw a press release from MS about all the new features that are coming, including a powerful grammar checking and editing utility called “Microsoft Editor” that will be  as powerful as Grammarly at least. I think it’s a mistake to use those programmes myself, or maybe it’s just a personal thing for me, but hey, I guess if you feel it’s what you need, go to it. Anyway, the new mS app will be available with new editions of Office 365 and also downloadable as an extension for Edge and Chrome.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: March 31, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

I have office 365 with a built in spell checker which checks my spelling and grammar all the time when sending a message via email or even face book.  Subsequently, David why would you need Grammarly? Oh, I’m using JAWS 2020. With windows 10. I’ve not mastered using the iPhone to check my spelling, no matter what program I was using.    

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

JM Casey
 

Haha..interesting use of “vertiginous” there..I take it that was purposeful…

 

You don’t need to explain, I understand why someone *might* want to use such a thing. It’s not for me, but I am stubborn like that.

 

With the new mS Editor – what I can foresee is that in the beginning it will perhaps not be so accessible, but as screen-reader developers tend to work somewhat more closely with microsoft, it will probably become better over time.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: March 31, 2020 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

Well, now that I've tried the extension for Microsoft word, I can tell from my own experience that it's

not accessible, well, really to be more accurate, it's accesible to some degree, which isn't much, but the navigation through the grammarly pain is too clumsy. I had to use touch cursor, which seems the only way to get through the pain, but still I found some unlabeled buttons. I requested sighted assistance to see if there was some kind of marker on the words or structures in which grammarly purportedly singled out as mistaken, and apparently, those words were underlined, but jaws 2020 didn't report any.

As for explaining why one might need a grammar checker, in my case it's very simple, I'm not a native English speaker, and even though a good strategy to learn a new language is thoroughly memorizing grammar rules, a language learner will always find linguistic pitfalls that are extremely  difficult to sort out. I said that I could move through the grammarly pain with difficulty, well, the words that the extension underlined were all awkward expressions, not exactly grammar mistakes, this is one of the reasons I really like grammarly, and I wish it were fully accessible. Hopefully, this new Microsoft editor will  vertiginous improve through its self-proclaimed AI the detection of such graceless and unnatural expressions. 

 

Best,
   Leo

On 3/31/2020 1:51 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Grammarly is supposedly much more comprehensive and so forth than what MS Word currently offers. That said, stayed tuned – I just saw a press release from MS about all the new features that are coming, including a powerful grammar checking and editing utility called “Microsoft Editor” that will be  as powerful as Grammarly at least. I think it’s a mistake to use those programmes myself, or maybe it’s just a personal thing for me, but hey, I guess if you feel it’s what you need, go to it. Anyway, the new mS app will be available with new editions of Office 365 and also downloadable as an extension for Edge and Chrome.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: March 31, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

I have office 365 with a built in spell checker which checks my spelling and grammar all the time when sending a message via email or even face book.  Subsequently, David why would you need Grammarly? Oh, I’m using JAWS 2020. With windows 10. I’ve not mastered using the iPhone to check my spelling, no matter what program I was using.    

moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

Leo
 

Well, now that I've tried the extension for Microsoft word, I can tell from my own experience that it's

not accessible, well, really to be more accurate, it's accesible to some degree, which isn't much, but the navigation through the grammarly pain is too clumsy. I had to use touch cursor, which seems the only way to get through the pain, but still I found some unlabeled buttons. I requested sighted assistance to see if there was some kind of marker on the words or structures in which grammarly purportedly singled out as mistaken, and apparently, those words were underlined, but jaws 2020 didn't report any.

As for explaining why one might need a grammar checker, in my case it's very simple, I'm not a native English speaker, and even though a good strategy to learn a new language is thoroughly memorizing grammar rules, a language learner will always find linguistic pitfalls that are extremely  difficult to sort out. I said that I could move through the grammarly pain with difficulty, well, the words that the extension underlined were all awkward expressions, not exactly grammar mistakes, this is one of the reasons I really like grammarly, and I wish it were fully accessible. Hopefully, this new Microsoft editor will  vertiginous improve through its self-proclaimed AI the detection of such graceless and unnatural expressions. 


Best,
   Leo
On 3/31/2020 1:51 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Grammarly is supposedly much more comprehensive and so forth than what MS Word currently offers. That said, stayed tuned – I just saw a press release from MS about all the new features that are coming, including a powerful grammar checking and editing utility called “Microsoft Editor” that will be  as powerful as Grammarly at least. I think it’s a mistake to use those programmes myself, or maybe it’s just a personal thing for me, but hey, I guess if you feel it’s what you need, go to it. Anyway, the new mS app will be available with new editions of Office 365 and also downloadable as an extension for Edge and Chrome.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: March 31, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

 

I have office 365 with a built in spell checker which checks my spelling and grammar all the time when sending a message via email or even face book.  Subsequently, David why would you need Grammarly? Oh, I’m using JAWS 2020. With windows 10. I’ve not mastered using the iPhone to check my spelling, no matter what program I was using.    

moderated Re: Getting out of the menu in docs

Van Lant, Robin
 

Anna,
I recommend calling AIRA if you have a smart phone. It's free for college students right now and this sounds like one of their suggested uses of the service.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anna Givens
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting out of the menu in docs

Oh yeah! I actually had tried that too! No luck

Anna

On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Anna Try Function key 6 (F6 a couple of times. This usually works when navigating between panes in a program.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Anna
Givens
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:11 PM
To: Jaws List; Jaws List
Subject: Getting out of the menu in docs

Still wondering why when I’m google docs, if I am in the menu but don’t want to select anything, but just want to get back to the document area, why doesn’t pressing escape do anything, and what should I do??

I have also tried taking through the menu (which I would hate to have to do every time) but that didn’t get me back to the document area.

Also tried alt tab to go to other window and then back and that didn’t do anything.

Also tried f5 to refresh page (although I don’t think it was an issue with the page, but who knows) but that didn’t do anything!

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Be well,
Anna









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moderated Re: virtual machines

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi,

 

I am currently enrolled in Capella taking a Cisco hardware course, but the virtual labs using virtual servers, routers, and switches are not accessible. I had to rig up something at my home. I am currently using VMware, with Windows server 2016. I have the remote license for my JAWS and NVDA installed on the server. It works pretty good for me. The windows server(evaluation) was free for 1080 days using the five possible resets. To get it all set up, you will need sighted help, but once set up, it works pretty good. Contact me off list for more help.

Josham129@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: virtual machines

 

Hi. Using jaws 2020 , nvda 2019.3 windows 10 64 bit pro. On a assus laptop. Doing a network course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au. Got a free dedicated server for assignments  from http://www.heropa.com. But only for assignments and assessments. As their web tool is totally unuser friendly and not accessible. Looking to rebuild. So looking for a free vm. Did sign up for the vmware workstation education, but was rejected my application. Not sure. And also listening to videos from http://www.pluralsight.com and from http://www.linedinlearning.com. Vm ware player, asks for me to turn off credential guard manager and security settings, if people are familiar with that. Now, tried that and when trying to install windows server 2016 iso, could not turn that feature off. In vritual box, no way to turn the audio on, and it kept either crashing or powering off. Hyper v manager the same. So can any one doing a networking course, let me know. And Microsoft azure, trying to set up a free student account, would not recognize my landline voip phone. Don’t have a mobile phone, credit card, paypal. And now, any one got any good recommendations for a free, accessible vm, that will work with jaws, nvda, windows narrator. And able to then install such server os as windows server 2008 r2, 2012, 2016, docker, etc.

Any ideas or help. Want to get my hands dirty and learn how to install, configure and use networking. Any one got any ideas or in the same boat. My college does not have a dedicated online server. Doing this online and with about 11 other sighted students.

Any ideas. Help.

Thanks.

 

moderated Re: How to Read Kindle Books with Jaws Keyboard Commands

Chris Hill
 

Probably time to contact fs.



On 3/31/2020 14:43, Ed Culpepper wrote:

Tried all to no avail. "Page turn" is turned off; in “Tools/Options” I turned it on and back off with no change in use of Jaws keyboard commands able to read books. I have searched this list archives and Jaws support but have found no help to get Jaws keyboard commands to work with Kindle. Additional suggestions? J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 

moderated Re: JAWS bug: cannot type in literacy braille

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Only spaces are inserted. OK, I will use this E-Mail instead.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS bug: cannot type in literacy braille

Hello,
What occurs when you try to type text in Polish literacy braille on your Focus? Does the text just not translate? If you are finding this issue to be a bug, then I would report it to FreedomScientific/Vispero. To do this, try sending an email to support@... Hope this helps.


On 3/31/20, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
I found a very annoying problem in JAWS today. When I have selected
"Polish, literacy braille" as my braille input I could not type
anything on my Focus braille keyboard!! Only when I have selected the
computer braille I could type, but that should not be like that as
there are a lot of people who do prefer literacy braille.




moderated Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws

David Diamond
 

My spelling was atrocious. The native app for IOS, I could never master, Win live or all other other programs such as Gmail or Muzzella did not meet my needs.