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Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

What do you do to disable ad blocker?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Hello Kimberly,
I am using the new update to JAWS18 and Internet Explorer11 on a
Windows10 pc with the Eloquence speech synthesizer profile. With this set up, I am not encountering the issues you describe. I went to the New Yorker site and was also having a heck of a time reading the articles too. I found that when I enabled an ad-blocker such as Ad-block plus, the issue with the New Yorker site disappeared and the responsiveness that I was used to in reading content returned. I have had some crashes with leaving the ad-block plus enabled on certain websites so you may want to disable it when sites are working but having it available helps in this situation.


On 12/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm using Jaws 18 on my work laptop with windows 7 and IE11 and I'm
noticing quite a bit of dragging as I attempt to read through web
pages. For example, this morning I was trying to read an article in
the New Yorker and having a hell of a time. As I arrow down the page I
encountered several seconds of silence before Jaws would read each
line. Sometimes arrowing back up a few lines would sort of wake jaws
up and get it moving again.

I switched back to version 17 and the delays disappeared. I was able
to read the article with no problems or delays.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

Incidentally, I am using the previous release of version 18, not the
one that just released.

Thanks

--
Kimberly




Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I will do that next on my new Visa cycle. This cycle pretty
much burdened from chiropractor.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Carolyn, please get back to this list and let us know about
a lifetime SMA; and what it would cost.
I'd be very interested in that; particularly if it's
somewhat affordable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Do they have a life-time SMA? I intend to check with them
next week about renewing mine, thought I'd check into that.
Then again, unless it is less than, say $300, I would not
consider it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years.
If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which
amounts to approximately two and a half dollars each month.
or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62
cents a week I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using
their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they
afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer
technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to
sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into
chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade
their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web
applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to
date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is
concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update
you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in
ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to
make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start
using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit,
however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of
JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old
versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a
problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough
accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by
using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my
advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.







Re: Google Docs

Michael Mote
 

Hello!  If you navigate to the Freedom Scientific page, and search in the training section, you should find some information regarding Google Docs and JAWS.  I believe a recent webinar was just released on this very topic.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Google Docs

 

Hello All,

 

I am moving from wineyes to Jaws since it seems like there isn’t going to be any more development on wineyes.

 

At my work we use google Docs, Sheets and Drive quite a lot.

 

Can someone point me to where I can read on how to setup jaws 18 to work optimally on these products?

 

Thanks for any input.  


Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Kimber Gardner
 

Thanks for the tip re the new Yorker site.

On 12/8/16, Shai <shaiwol@...> wrote:
Hello Kimberly,
I am using the new update to JAWS18 and Internet Explorer11 on a
Windows10 pc with the Eloquence speech synthesizer profile. With this
set up, I am not encountering the issues you describe. I went to the
New Yorker site and was also having a heck of a time reading the
articles too. I found that when I enabled an ad-blocker such as
Ad-block plus, the issue with the New Yorker site disappeared and the
responsiveness that I was used to in reading content returned. I have
had some crashes with leaving the ad-block plus enabled on certain
websites so you may want to disable it when sites are working but
having it available helps in this situation.


On 12/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm using Jaws 18 on my work laptop with windows 7 and IE11 and I'm
noticing quite a bit of dragging as I attempt to read through web
pages. For example, this morning I was trying to read an article in
the New Yorker and having a hell of a time. As I arrow down the page I
encountered several seconds of silence before Jaws would read each
line. Sometimes arrowing back up a few lines would sort of wake jaws
up and get it moving again.

I switched back to version 17 and the delays disappeared. I was able
to read the article with no problems or delays.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

Incidentally, I am using the previous release of version 18, not the
one that just released.

Thanks

--
Kimberly





--
Kimberly


Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Shai
 

Hello Kimberly,
I am using the new update to JAWS18 and Internet Explorer11 on a
Windows10 pc with the Eloquence speech synthesizer profile. With this
set up, I am not encountering the issues you describe. I went to the
New Yorker site and was also having a heck of a time reading the
articles too. I found that when I enabled an ad-blocker such as
Ad-block plus, the issue with the New Yorker site disappeared and the
responsiveness that I was used to in reading content returned. I have
had some crashes with leaving the ad-block plus enabled on certain
websites so you may want to disable it when sites are working but
having it available helps in this situation.

On 12/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm using Jaws 18 on my work laptop with windows 7 and IE11 and I'm
noticing quite a bit of dragging as I attempt to read through web
pages. For example, this morning I was trying to read an article in
the New Yorker and having a hell of a time. As I arrow down the page I
encountered several seconds of silence before Jaws would read each
line. Sometimes arrowing back up a few lines would sort of wake jaws
up and get it moving again.

I switched back to version 17 and the delays disappeared. I was able
to read the article with no problems or delays.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

Incidentally, I am using the previous release of version 18, not the
one that just released.

Thanks

--
Kimberly




Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Kimber Gardner
 

Dave,

Do you find 16 is more responsive than 17?

On 12/7/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Brian,

If you still have JAWS 16, give that a try to see if the sluggishness
disappears. In my case, the difference is dramatic and repeatable.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "brian albriton" <cocanut50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11


I've been seeing this behavior for longer than I can remember, with all
versions of 18. In my case, perhaps my computer is aging. I bought this sony

vio in 2011. It’s a desktop replacement

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 6:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Well, at least I know it's not my hardware/configuration. Guess I'll just go

back to version 17.

Thanks for the verification.

On 12/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm using Jaws 18 on my work laptop with windows 7 and IE11 and I'm
noticing quite a bit of dragging as I attempt to read through web
pages. For example, this morning I was trying to read an article in
the New Yorker and having a hell of a time. As I arrow down the page I
encountered several seconds of silence before Jaws would read each
line. Sometimes arrowing back up a few lines would sort of wake jaws
up and get it moving again.

I switched back to version 17 and the delays disappeared. I was able
to read the article with no problems or delays.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

Incidentally, I am using the previous release of version 18, not the
one that just released.

Thanks

--
Kimberly




--
Kimberly










--
Kimberly


Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Angel
 

Well, one hundred twenty dollars divided by 24 equals 5 dollars. divided by four equals one dollar 25 cents weekly. Considering the amount we pay for other helpful assists. Such as driver services, and gifts we purchase for our friends, and for others who assist us as personal employees. the cost for upgrades for such a valuable program doesn't seem like such a high price to pay. I have been paying for soft ware maintenance agreements since I got my first Jaws program in 97.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Hi,

Not sure how you figure that $120 divided by 24 months is $2.5, but I actually agree, even at the correct price which is $5/month it really is not all that much.
That of course is for the Home version, but there is not all that much reason to have the Pro version any more for a private person since the Home version now works with any Pro version of the Windows operating system, I believe the Home version may still not support remote desktop, but once again this is probably not something a lot of people use.


Regards,'
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years. If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which amounts to approximately two and a half dollars each month. or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62 cents a week I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit, however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.







Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

a good suggestion is to use a subscription model like google, $2 per month, would make them more money.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Carolyn, please get back to this list and let us know about a lifetime SMA;
and what it would cost.
I'd be very interested in that; particularly if it's somewhat affordable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Do they have a life-time SMA? I intend to check with them next week about
renewing mine, thought I'd check into that.
Then again, unless it is less than, say $300, I would not consider it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years.
If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which amounts to
approximately two and a half dollars each month.
or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62 cents a week I
ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using
their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they
afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer
technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to
sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into
chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade
their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web
applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to
date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is
concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update
you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in
ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to
make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start
using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit,
however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of
JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old
versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a
problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough
accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by
using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my
advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.















Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Carolyn, please get back to this list and let us know about a lifetime SMA;
and what it would cost.
I'd be very interested in that; particularly if it's somewhat affordable.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Do they have a life-time SMA? I intend to check with them next week about
renewing mine, thought I'd check into that.
Then again, unless it is less than, say $300, I would not consider it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years.
If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which amounts to
approximately two and a half dollars each month.
or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62 cents a week I
ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using
their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they
afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer
technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to
sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into
chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade
their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web
applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to
date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is
concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update
you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in
ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to
make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start
using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit,
however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of
JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old
versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a
problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough
accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by
using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my
advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.







Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Dave...
 

Brian,

If you still have JAWS 16, give that a try to see if the sluggishness
disappears. In my case, the difference is dramatic and repeatable.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "brian albriton" <cocanut50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11


I've been seeing this behavior for longer than I can remember, with all
versions of 18. In my case, perhaps my computer is aging. I bought this sony
vio in 2011. It’s a desktop replacement

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 6:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Well, at least I know it's not my hardware/configuration. Guess I'll just go
back to version 17.

Thanks for the verification.

On 12/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm using Jaws 18 on my work laptop with windows 7 and IE11 and I'm
noticing quite a bit of dragging as I attempt to read through web
pages. For example, this morning I was trying to read an article in
the New Yorker and having a hell of a time. As I arrow down the page I
encountered several seconds of silence before Jaws would read each
line. Sometimes arrowing back up a few lines would sort of wake jaws
up and get it moving again.

I switched back to version 17 and the delays disappeared. I was able
to read the article with no problems or delays.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

Incidentally, I am using the previous release of version 18, not the
one that just released.

Thanks

--
Kimberly




--
Kimberly


Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That's the end of that then, but I will ask and will report.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

$300? I doubt it highly. Closer to $1000 if they would even consider it.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 7:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Do they have a life-time SMA? I intend to check with them next week
about renewing mine, thought I'd check into that.
Then again, unless it is less than, say $300, I would not consider it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years.
If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which amounts to
approximately two and a half dollars each month.
or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62 cents a
week I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using
their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they
afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer
technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to
sightlings. Bummer!
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into
chase.com
Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade
their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?
Given the speed at which Web standards and Web
applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to
date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is
concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update
you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in
ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to
make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start
using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit,
however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of
JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old
versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a
problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough
accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by
using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my
advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.












Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

 

Hi,

Not sure how you figure that $120 divided by 24 months is $2.5, but I actually agree, even at the correct price which is $5/month it really is not all that much.
That of course is for the Home version, but there is not all that much reason to have the Pro version any more for a private person since the Home version now works with any Pro version of the Windows operating system, I believe the Home version may still not support remote desktop, but once again this is probably not something a lot of people use.


Regards,'
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years. If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which amounts to approximately two and a half dollars each month. or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62 cents a week I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit, however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.







Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Maria Campbell
 

$300? I doubt it highly. Closer to $1000 if they would even consider it.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 7:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Do they have a life-time SMA? I intend to check with them
next week about renewing mine, thought I'd check into that.
Then again, unless it is less than, say $300, I would not
consider it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years.
If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which
amounts to approximately two and a half dollars each month.
or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62
cents a week I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using
their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they
afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer
technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to
sightlings. Bummer!
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into
chase.com
Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade
their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?
Given the speed at which Web standards and Web
applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to
date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is
concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update
you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in
ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to
make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start
using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit,
however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of
JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old
versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a
problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough
accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by
using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my
advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.











Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Do they have a life-time SMA? I intend to check with them
next week about renewing mine, thought I'd check into that.
Then again, unless it is less than, say $300, I would not
consider it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years.
If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which
amounts to approximately two and a half dollars each month.
or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62
cents a week I ask?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using
their
screenreader for just personal home use; how would they
afford an
update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer
technology for
the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to
sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into
chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade
their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web
applications are
evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to
date will
increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is
concerned. For
example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update
you'll
notice various enhancements that support new features in
ARIA (a
technology used widely by Web application developers to
make their
software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start
using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit,
however, users
will need up to date screen readers. These features of
JAWS 18 are
only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old
versions of
software except perhaps for a short time to work around a
problem with
a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough
accessibility
problems as it is without making the situation worse by
using old
versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my
advice is:
use current releases of software whenever possible.







Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Maria Campbell
 

You can if you wish. I use the unlocked Eloquence that comes with my Kurzweil.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 4:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I thought you had to buy Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Maria, so what has to be done to get the unlocked Eloquence from Kurzweil 1K to show up in NVDA's choice of synths? I have K1K installed but don't see any choice for Eloquence to be used for NVDA's synth.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Dec 7, 2016 1:28 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

You can only use Eloquence with NVDA if you have an unlocked version.
The Eloquence with JAWS is not unlocked. The Eloquence with Kurzweil is unlocked, so I can use it with NVDA.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Ulrich wrote:
Well I just have to try that. Way back when I first started learning how to type and use JAWS; I once tried NVDA, but I just couldn't stand the default voicing. Well maybe nowadays one can put Eloquence into NVDA as the voice program?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike you could try NVDA, no cost, regular updates, and it works pretty well.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using their screenreader for just personal home use; how would they afford an update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer technology for the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade their screen reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web applications are evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to date will increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is concerned. For example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update you'll notice various enhancements that support new features in ARIA (a technology used widely by Web application developers to make their software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start using those features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit, however, users will need up to date screen readers. These features of JAWS 18 are only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old versions of software except perhaps for a short time to work around a problem with a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough accessibility problems as it is without making the situation worse by using old versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my advice is: use current releases of software whenever possible.

















.







Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Angel
 

Jaws requires soft ware maintenance once every two years. If this is done faithfully, the cost is 120 dollars. Which amounts to approximately two and a half dollars each month. or 62 cents a week. Which one of us can't afford to pay 62 cents a week I ask?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ulrich" <mulrich@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com


Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using their screenreader
for just personal home use; how would they afford an update every year? I
sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer technology for the
blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web applications are evolving,
those who do not keep their screen readers up to date will increasingly be
left behind so far as accessibility is concerned. For example, in the
release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update you'll notice various
enhancements that support new features in ARIA (a technology used widely by
Web application developers to make their software accessible to screen
reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit, however, users will
need up to date screen readers. These features of JAWS 18 are only examples
of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old versions of software
except perhaps for a short time to work around a problem with a newer
release while awaiting a fix. There are enough accessibility problems as it
is without making the situation worse by using old versions of screen
readers, operating systems, etc. So my advice is: use current releases of
software whenever possible.






Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

 

I thought you had to buy Eloquence for NVDA from Code Factory.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Maria, so what has to be done to get the unlocked Eloquence from Kurzweil 1K to show up in NVDA's choice of synths? I have K1K installed but don't see any choice for Eloquence to be used for NVDA's synth.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Dec 7, 2016 1:28 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

You can only use Eloquence with NVDA if you have an unlocked version.
The Eloquence with JAWS is not unlocked. The Eloquence with Kurzweil is unlocked, so I can use it with NVDA.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Ulrich wrote:
Well I just have to try that. Way back when I first started learning how to type and use JAWS; I once tried NVDA, but I just couldn't stand the default voicing. Well maybe nowadays one can put Eloquence into NVDA as the voice program?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike you could try NVDA, no cost, regular updates, and it works pretty well.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using their screenreader for just personal home use; how would they afford an update every year? I sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer technology for the blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade their screen reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web applications are evolving, those who do not keep their screen readers up to date will increasingly be left behind so far as accessibility is concerned. For example, in the release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update you'll notice various enhancements that support new features in ARIA (a technology used widely by Web application developers to make their software accessible to screen reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start using those features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit, however, users will need up to date screen readers. These features of JAWS 18 are only examples of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old versions of software except perhaps for a short time to work around a problem with a newer release while awaiting a fix. There are enough accessibility problems as it is without making the situation worse by using old versions of screen readers, operating systems, etc. So my advice is: use current releases of software whenever possible.

















.


Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mario
 

that worked. thanks.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Dec 7, 2016 3:09 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Try choosing Microsoft SAPI version 4.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 1:56 PM, Mario wrote:
Maria, so what has to be done to get the unlocked Eloquence from
Kurzweil 1K to show up in NVDA's choice of synths? I have K1K installed
but don't see any choice for Eloquence to be used for NVDA's synth.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Dec 7, 2016 1:28 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

You can only use Eloquence with NVDA if you have an unlocked version.
The Eloquence with JAWS is not unlocked. The Eloquence with Kurzweil is
unlocked, so I can use it with NVDA.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 12/7/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Ulrich wrote:
Well I just have to try that. Way back when I first started learning
how to
type and use JAWS; I once tried NVDA, but I just couldn't stand the
default
voicing. Well maybe nowadays one can put Eloquence into NVDA as the voice
program?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike you could try NVDA, no cost, regular updates, and it works pretty
well.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Well I do understand that, but if a blind person is using their
screenreader
for just personal home use; how would they afford an update every year? I
sure can't.
This is the biggest crunch when it comes to computer technology for the
blind. It is an added expense that doesn't apply to sightlings. Bummer!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...> wrote:
So do you think that'll mean that all users must upgrade their screen
reader programs as often? Or perhaps a lot less?

Given the speed at which Web standards and Web applications are evolving,
those who do not keep their screen readers up to date will
increasingly be
left behind so far as accessibility is concerned. For example, in the
release notes of the latest JAWS 18 update you'll notice various
enhancements that support new features in ARIA (a technology used
widely by
Web application developers to make their software accessible to screen
reader users).

It won't be long before Web application developers start using those
features to improve accessibility. To gain the benefit, however, users
will
need up to date screen readers. These features of JAWS 18 are only
examples
of a larger trend.

I keep all of my software up to date. I don't use old versions of
software
except perhaps for a short time to work around a problem with a newer
release while awaiting a fix. There are enough accessibility problems
as it
is without making the situation worse by using old versions of screen
readers, operating systems, etc. So my advice is: use current releases of
software whenever possible.

















.









.


Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

brian albriton
 

I've been seeing this behavior for longer than I can remember, with all versions of 18. In my case, perhaps my computer is aging. I bought this sony vio in 2011. It’s a desktop replacement

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 6:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 dragging in IE11

Well, at least I know it's not my hardware/configuration. Guess I'll just go back to version 17.

Thanks for the verification.

On 12/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm using Jaws 18 on my work laptop with windows 7 and IE11 and I'm
noticing quite a bit of dragging as I attempt to read through web
pages. For example, this morning I was trying to read an article in
the New Yorker and having a hell of a time. As I arrow down the page I
encountered several seconds of silence before Jaws would read each
line. Sometimes arrowing back up a few lines would sort of wake jaws
up and get it moving again.

I switched back to version 17 and the delays disappeared. I was able
to read the article with no problems or delays.

Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

Incidentally, I am using the previous release of version 18, not the
one that just released.

Thanks

--
Kimberly




--
Kimberly


Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
Sadly using the current version of JFW and IE11 I can't reproduce even when window is maximized here anyway.
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Artur Räpp
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Hi,

I tested this site with Internet Explorer (Windows 10).
If the window is maximized - there are username and password fields
If the window is restored - there arent these fields.
Maybe this is the cause of the problem?

Artur


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 5:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Hi,
Interesting that you bring this up because for a while now on the main home page the fields for user name and password can only be found with any screen reader for me when viewed through Firefox not Internet Explorer 11. this is still true with JFW 18. As you say now when the sign in link is invoked it works but so strange that in Firefox you don't even have to do that the fields just appear on the main home page.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18.0.2118 ... now can sign into chase.com

Recently due to changes on their web site, I have only been able to sign in to chase.com with NVDA. Once I was signed in, JAWS worked fine. With the .2118 version of JAWS 18, I can once again use JAWS on the sign in screen.