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Re: Jaws updates

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

Ron Hutchinson? Now there's a throwback. In 1987, my first computer was an Everex 8088 running DOS, Ron Hutchinson's program VOS (Verbal Opeating System) and crappy old Votrax Typeandtalk. I live in Central OH, lived in Columbus at the time, so met him.

On 6/14/2017 8:29 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
There are many fine programs for work or play. But, when you get right down to it, JAWS (or substitute any other reader) is the key to them all. Without these apps, the fanciest laptop or desktop is just a paperweight. Pioneers like David Holiday, Ron Hutchinson, and all those who have followed, allowed us to become part of the computer revolution. You bet your bottom dollar it's worth it to me.
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
It can be a logistical nightmare, I know. But, I've seen those who have more money than they know what to do with and would drop $100 or more on dinner but, can't find the money for something like this. Or, spend money on junk food and say they have no money. I take no stand. However, my sibling falls into the latter category. The most offensive thing was when we offered to get toiletries for her at Costco because we were going there for our monthly shopping and toiletries are cheaper there. Naturally she would reimburse us. Her comment? "Why should I buy it, I can get ... to give it to me."
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: June 13, 2017 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
It's not that simple. How is the five dollars a month going to FVO, off a charge card, automatic withdrawal from a bank account (what bank account in some cases? Some get their Social Security or SSI on a credit card),from the mail. Then one has to remember to write a check monthly, address an envelope, put a stamp on it, or is FVO going to send a statement? There are too many logistics for that to work. It makes mathematical sense to put aside five dollars a month toward sending in the SMA, but for people on marginal incomes, there are too many other things that absorb that money, yes, even Star Bucks on occasion, maybe.
Best from,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Smoking is an addiction and when you addicted to something nothing will get in the way of that, including Jaws. Smile. Having made that flippant remark, you are right, $5 per month is not much. Just give up one day of Starbucks coffee.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 13, 2017 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.
Regards,
Sieghard
----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
What do most major updates cost without an SMA?
On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?








Re: Jaws updates

Don H
 

Dave WRONG the Professional SMA is more than the Home SMA. Just verified this by calling VFO.

On 6/14/2017 11:34 AM, Dave... wrote:
Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.
On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
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https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: Jaws updates

Dave...
 

Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: Jaws updates

 

Did you buy it directly from FS or from a dealer who might have upcharged you? As others said, just call them and ask, nobody here can tell you and if FS made a mistake and charged you for the Professional SMA instead of the Home SMA I' sure they will be happy to corect the mistake.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

But I only have the home edition!


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: Jaws updates

 

Well said, Angel, if somebody has problems coming up with $120 every two years at once they should put a $5 bill in a piggy bank or jar every months or set up a savings account which is usually free and put $10 or $20 a month in that so they can use it for things like that. There will always be other emergencies where it's not a bad thing to have a few hundred Dollars readily available and having such an emergency fund which you don't touch except for dedicated expenses or emergencies is a good thing for those who otherwise live hand to mouth so to speak.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

How can we be expected to be considered responsible blind adults, capable enough to become employed, or to be able to care for ourselves, if we can't even save five dollars a month to renew our smas?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?








Re: Jaws updates

 

Have you tried to use Jaws Convenient OCR on that screen? Often you can find and click things which optherwise are not accessible.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

 

I'm experiencing a similar issue.  I have a Samsung 850 Evo SSD.  Neither Jaws or Window-eys can read the strange UI of Samsung's proprietary software, Samsung Magician in order to enable the fast-boot feature called Rapid; however, this is workable with NVDA.  It does take a lot of mousing around with a physical mouse, as well as adapting to NVDA's speaking of the different functions; example, rather than Rapid, it will speak DRapid and you need to locate and click a button labeled DRapid.  I spent almost half an hour trying this with Jaws but simply not possible.  But then, no screen reader is 100% perfect in all situations.  It's all about the needs of the user.

 
On 6/13/2017 8:03 PM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

There are some things Window Eyes will read but Jaws won’t. I am thinking of a YouTube converter.  Window Eyes would read the different formats you could convert the movie or music too, JAWS doesn’t read those formats out.  Neither does NVDA. So, JAWS is my main screen reader but, wen it doesn’t read out something, I close it and open up Window Eyes.  I also have NVDA on my computer as well as a third choice.  A JAWS user set up, the Ctr,alt as a shortcut. I want JAWS, I just hit ctr,altJ.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: June 13, 2017 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

 

Thanks.  I was migrated to Jaws from Window-eyes so I may end up selling my Jaws and sticking with NVDA anyway as that's what I'veen using for around 2 years.  Both my wife and I are unemployed so if I don't need to throw money at screen access, so much the better for me.

 

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 6:38 PM Dave... <dgcarlson@...> wrote:

More like seven or eight times per year. Not monthly

Dave
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

> On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
> yes, that is correct.
>
>
>
> Chris Grabowski
> Mystic Access
> Where the magic is in learning.
> https://www.MysticAccess.com
> Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
> actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
> tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
> eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
> containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
> downloads, and so much more.
>    Contact:
> Phone: (716) 543-3323  (Ext. 500)
> Twitter: MysticAccess
> Facebook: mysticaccessempower
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Don H
> Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Jaws updates
>
> Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
> and a major update once a year?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>











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Sent from my iPhone using G-mail.

 


Re: New Name

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

It stands for Vector/FreedomScientific/Optelec. I just asked them that question two days ago.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Name

 

I guess this is a dumb question, but what does the latest name (VFO) stand for.

 

Ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


Re: Jaws updates

John Farley <john_farley@...>
 

Vic,

My believe is that the $120 was the price if you were running the latest version of Window-Eyes, that is 9.5.4 otherwise there was a slightly higher amount for users who were not on the latest version.



Regards, John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
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containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
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Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?








Re: reliable daisy reader

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Check:

laz@talkingmp3players.com

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reliable daisy reader

Hi all,

Anybody knows a daisy book reader more reliable than FS
reader?

I have been facing this problem since years ago, and for all
jaws updates. When I open a large book, this daisy reader
crash. I need to read a school book, and I can't do that
with Fs because always the program crash no matter which
book I am opening. Looks like Fs doesn't handle very well
large documents . Any advice?

Any other daisy book reader to be used in the computer?



Thanks in advance for all,


Re: Jaws updates

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That is true, they do put a limit on them. Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Correction: I was offered an SMA for $120 if purchased within 60 days.

On 6/14/2017 6:33 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?






















Re: Jaws updates

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I had to pay $480, because I had stopped getting SMA's, so I went from 12 with SMA to 18. Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?








Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Adekoya Rasak
 

Hello Russell,

I am now using the light version on microsoft online. quite similar to
that of gmail. Please, does the calendar work well with the light
version? are there no key stroke like Alt +I for inbox as we have in
gmail? how do I use word online?

I will be glad you help with these questions.

Thank you.

On 14/06/2017, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me know if it works leaving the question mark in.
On Jun 13, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<Pamela.A.Ekstrand.-ND@disney.com> wrote:

Thanks, Russell, I will try that. I had gotten the message "Bad request"
when I tried the manual method, but I had removed the question mark.
Thanks for that clarification.

Pam
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Russell
Solowoniuk [rsolowoniuk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hi Pam,

I wasn’t able to find the Settings link either, but, by following the
below manual steps, it temporarily puts you in the light version. From
there you just need to look for an “Options” link, click on that, go to
Outlook versions, enter on that, and then check “Change to light version”
or something similar. You must then arrow up to the save button and enter
on it, log out and then the next time you log in, you should be in the
light view. Make sure you delete everything after the question mark (?) in
the URL, but not the question mark itself before you enter layout=light.
Good luck.

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com><http://outlook.yourinstitution.com>),
look at the address bar, it will probably start with something like the
following: https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blahblahblah
Just go and delete the blahblahblah part, and put in layout=light, so the
new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light

Russell
On Jun 13, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<Pamela.A.Ekstrand.-ND@disney.com<mailto:ND@disney.com>> wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to find the settings gear that is
referenced in these links?

I went back to using Internet Explorer 8 because the mail interface
changed so drastically and became too inefficient. It still works fine
there, but I would like to go to IE 11.

I am trying to change to the light interface using Firefox or Chrome in
order to test that, but I am not finding the settings.

Thanks for any help.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] on behalf of Russell
Solowoniuk [rsolowoniuk@gmail.com<mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need help with using jaws on microsoft online package

Hi,

Here are the instructions.
If the following websites instructions don’t work by changing it in the
settings, then try the below directions:
Proper way, via settings:
https://msonlinehelpdesk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205104708-Switch-Outlook-Web-App-to-use-the-light-weight-classic-look-for-lower-bandwidth-consumption-or-other-reasons

Another site:
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com>), look at
the address bar, it will probably start with something like the following:
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blahblahblah
Just go and delete the blahblahblah part, and put in layout=light, so the
new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light

HTH

Russell
On Jun 12, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Adekoya Rasak
<rasakadekoya@gmail.com<mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com>> wrote:

hello.
How do I change to the like version.
Please guide me on this.

On 12/06/2017, Russell Solowoniuk
<rsolowoniuk@gmail.com<mailto:rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, I can second the advice to switch to the Light version of Outlook
web
access. My workplace also just moved from Groupwise to Outlook last week,
and thankfully a friend had told me earlier about the Outlook Light
version.
It works great.

Good luck.

Russell
On Jun 12, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Jim Fettgather
<jimfettgather@gmail.com<mailto:jimfettgather@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello, I have found that by far, the most helpful and important option
to change is in Options, outlook version, and to use the lite mode.
Then, you are not presented with Tree Views which are highly difficult
to navigate, but a more typical interface, very similar to Gmail's
Basic HTML version, all check boxes and links are very clearly
labeled, and Outlook on the web in lite mode is very useable.
Thanks.



On 6/12/17, Adekoya Rasak
<rasakadekoya@gmail.com<mailto:rasakadekoya@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello All,

My office just switch to office 365 and I need to know how to access
my company email using microsoftonline.com<http://microsoftonline.com> to
access my email in the
situation when I am not at office. I login to the page and signed in
successfully but I have challenge navigating the web page.
I will be usinng the web app soon but not yet.
any help guys. any one with experience on this.

Regard.

--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com<mailto:radekoya@kemonics.com>
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29














--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com<mailto:radekoya@kemonics.com>
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29















--
Rasak Adekoya
|Public Awareness and Communications Manager
USAID Civil Society Project (SACE)

17, Euphrates Street, Maitama, Abuja

T: +2348034829045, +2348090359417
E: radekoya@kemonics.com
Skype: Asiwaju.rasak29


Re: bullets

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If he wants it to apply across the board, he can put it in the default dictionary. Otherwise, choose the appropriate app dictionary.

Ted


Re: bullets

Mario
 

be aware this will affect any where bullets exist, in documents,
articles, etc.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 10:56 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bullets

I don't think you can do it with the punctuation settings, but you can
with the dictionary. Place the cursor on the bullet, and activate the
dictionary. Choose Add. You should see the bullet symbol listed under
actual word. Tab once to the replacement field and hit the spacebar.
Save and exit.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bullets

I have my punctuation set to some in Jaws 18. On web pages I still hear
the announcement of bullets. Is there a way to have Jaws not say
bullet? Is there a way to specify exactly what punctuation and other
symbols you want or not read?
Thanks


Re: bullets

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I don't think you can do it with the punctuation settings, but you can with the dictionary. Place the cursor on the bullet, and activate the dictionary. Choose Add. You should see the bullet symbol listed under actual word. Tab once to the replacement field and hit the spacebar. Save and exit.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: bullets

I have my punctuation set to some in Jaws 18. On web pages I still hear
the announcement of bullets. Is there a way to have Jaws not say
bullet? Is there a way to specify exactly what punctuation and other
symbols you want or not read?
Thanks


Re: Jaws updates

Vic Beckley
 

But I only have the home edition!


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?





























Re: Jaws updates

Don H
 

Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,
No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.
Best Regards From Ohio,
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....
I'd asked VFO for clarification.
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?
Best Regards From Ohio,
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.
Best from,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.
Regards,
Sieghard
----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates
What do most major updates cost without an SMA?
On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while
actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio
tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer
eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter
containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free
downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500)
Twitter: MysticAccess
Facebook: mysticaccessempower


-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?








bullets

Don H
 

I have my punctuation set to some in Jaws 18. On web pages I still hear the announcement of bullets. Is there a way to have Jaws not say bullet? Is there a way to specify exactly what punctuation and other symbols you want or not read?
Thanks


Re: Jaws updates

Vic Beckley
 

Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics, processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years. It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's $60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than $5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?








Re: Downloading files from a web site with JAWS

Richard Turner
 

But, if the web developer didn’t set the link to download but to open, it just opens it in the default application then you have to save from there.

I’ve never had an issue with the save target as.

I just didn’t know that Jaws requires you to tab to the link.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading files from a web site with JAWS

 

I find the “Save Target As” method somewhat unreliable and usually just pressing enter on the download link works better for me.

In IE that bar may pop up and you have to use Alt+N or F6 to get to it and to say if you want to “Open” or “Save” the file, in Chrome the file usually just starts downloading.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading files from a web site with JAWS

 

Thanks to Carol and Bill.  I now understand that you have to tab to get to the link so you can find the save as option.

Yes, Carol, I have been a Window-Eyes user since the beginning of time and Vocal-Eyes before that and DOS software that probably few have heard of before that.

I should have figured that out because the same thing happens in the Outlook Calendar.  You have to tab to the appointment in order to edit or delete or open it.

 

Thanks again,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading files from a web site with JAWS

 

Hi, 

I am making an assumtion that you were a Window-Eyes user. 

Just because the cursor appears to be on the link, that does not always mean it is.  Up arrow a couple of times and then press the tab key to land directly on the link.  You should now be able to use your context settings as normal. 

This is based on my experience and not from any documentation, but this is what works for me. 

Carol

On 6/13/2017 7:27 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

In the past, when I wanted to download a file from a web site I could use the application key, or shift+f10 to bring up the context menu and select save as and I would be able to save the file that link pointed to.

 

When I bring up the context menu with JAWS, I am not finding such an option.  Does JAWS have a way to do this?

 

Thanks,

Richard