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Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 03:26 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
That is direct discrimination surely?
-
No, it's not.  You just use the full version.

If you strip out the underpinnings needed for the screen reader to make an ultra-light-weight version of something, that can hardly be called discrimination against the blind.  The accessible version, which is actually the one most used, is fully accessible.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

James English
 

Hello,

I used it last Saturday and it announced all that, as well as the
infinitely less useful messages that someone's network bandwith is
low. This is on an old version of jaws without the zoom-specific
features.

On 7/27/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@att.net> wrote:
Hi, David. Did you try opening Zoom, and using the keystroke, ALT plus
Windows key plus the letter S to enable Zoom alerts?

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I used it as early as last Saturday and got notified of departures and
entrances.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Hi, when I used it last Thursday I got the messages when people joined and
left.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2021 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in
over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago.
It's all very odd indeed.


On 7/26/2021 11:41 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
Did you make any changes to your accessibility settings in Zoom? Do
you have the notifications for Zoom muted in JAWS? Alt+Windows key+S
Jim Weiss jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com>
wrote:

Has anyone else noticed JAWS isn't announcing when participants enter and
leave Zoom meetings lately? I noticed it about a week ago, but I don't
think there were any JAWS or Zoom updates that week--not until yesterday
anyway.





















Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

Steve Nutt
 

Wow, that last sentence is a bit naughty isn’t it?

 

That is direct discrimination surely?

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 27 July 2021 21:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

From the FAQ page, which has a dedicated answer to "what's lite?"  Note well the last sentence.

What is the Lite version of "Everything"?

The Lite version of Everything is the same as the normal multilingual version of Everything, except it has some features removed:

 

 

The Command line interface / ES will not work with the Lite version.

The SDK will not work with the Lite version.

Windows accessibility features and screen readers will not work with the Lite version.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Re: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

Mario
 

Brian, thanks for the heads up.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Subject: Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
From the FAQ page, which has a dedicated answer to "what's lite?"  Note
well the last sentence.


/What is the Lite version of "Everything"?/

/The Lite version of Everything is the same as the normal multilingual
version of Everything, except it has some features removed:/


*

/Removed ETP/FTP Server <https://voidtools.com/support/everything/etp>./

*

/Removed HTTP Server <https://voidtools.com/support/everything/http>./

*

/Removed IPC <https://voidtools.com/support/everything/sdk/ipc>./


/The Command line interface / ES will not work with the Lite version./

/The SDK will not work with the Lite version./

*/Windows accessibility features and screen readers will not work with
the Lite version./*

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

    ~ William Plomer


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Bill White
 

Hi, David. Did you try opening Zoom, and using the keystroke, ALT plus Windows key plus the letter S to enable Zoom alerts?

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I used it as early as last Saturday and got notified of departures and entrances.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Hi, when I used it last Thursday I got the messages when people joined and left.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2021 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago.
It's all very odd indeed.


On 7/26/2021 11:41 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
Did you make any changes to your accessibility settings in Zoom? Do
you have the notifications for Zoom muted in JAWS? Alt+Windows key+S
Jim Weiss jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed JAWS isn't announcing when participants enter and leave Zoom meetings lately? I noticed it about a week ago, but I don't think there were any JAWS or Zoom updates that week--not until yesterday anyway.


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

David Diamond
 

I used it as early as last Saturday and got notified of departures and entrances.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Hi, when I used it last Thursday I got the messages when people joined and left.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2021 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago.
It's all very odd indeed.


On 7/26/2021 11:41 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
Did you make any changes to your accessibility settings in Zoom? Do
you have the notifications for Zoom muted in JAWS? Alt+Windows key+S
Jim Weiss jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed JAWS isn't announcing when participants enter and leave Zoom meetings lately? I noticed it about a week ago, but I don't think there were any JAWS or Zoom updates that week--not until yesterday anyway.


Re: How to locate a missing file

Bill White
 

I don't know the difference between 64-bit and 64-bit light, because I just installed the full version.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

Bill or anyone else, regarding the portable versions of Search
Everything, do you know what is the difference between the 64 bit and
the 64 bit lite?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@gmail.com]
Subject: How to locate a missing file
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Hi Bill,

Thanks for mentioning this utility. I downloaded it with no problem.
It’s easy to install. And that’s saying a lot for me. (LOL)

Thanks again.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>
*Sent: *Monday, July 19, 2021 11:47 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: How to locate a missing file

Hi, Shirley. I understand your frustration with regard to some Windows
applications saving files in strange places, and not being able to
locate them. This is because, when one tabs to the save file option, the
location of the file is not given. Here's what I did to stop all that
nonsense. I installed a Windows file utility called Search Everything.
This utility will, when started, search for files with a given name or
partial name, and will also list its location. I will give the link for
the website where you can download Search Everything. Since I have a
64-bit system, I download the 64-bit version of the program.

https://www.voidtools.com/ <https://www.voidtools.com/>

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Monday, July 19, 2021 8:34 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* How to locate a missing file

I wrote something in WORD PAD, and when I went to open it again it was
not there. I wrote the information in a new WORD PAD file and when I
tried to save it, I received the message that I already had that file.
So, how do I find it? It’s not in “file explorer.” This has all happened
since the latest update of Microsoft.

Thanks for any help.

Cheerfully,

Shirley Tracy


.


Search Everything from voidtools.com - Lite version is NOT accessible

 

From the FAQ page, which has a dedicated answer to "what's lite?"  Note well the last sentence.

What is the Lite version of "Everything"?

The Lite version of Everything is the same as the normal multilingual version of Everything, except it has some features removed:



The Command line interface / ES will not work with the Lite version.

The SDK will not work with the Lite version.

Windows accessibility features and screen readers will not work with the Lite version.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Re: Edit Boxes On A WEB App

Russell Solowoniuk
 

I’ve had issues with edit boxes in web apps in the past, and solved it by using Firefox.

 

HTH

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edit Boxes On A WEB App

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have a web app with edit boxes.

Just recently, when I move to an edit box it has started to say edit contains text on a certain edit box and it seems to repeat what is in the edit box twice.

It is the latest JAWS but I have also tried it with JAWS 2020 and on two machines.

Using the Edge Chrom browser, seems like it is something odd in the app but does anyone have any ideas?

 


Re: How to locate a missing file

Shirley Tracy
 

I’m sure Bill can answer that? I don’t know, but I got the regular one. I should have asked that question myself. But this one works.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Bill or anyone else, regarding the portable versions of Search

Everything, do you know what is the difference between the 64 bit and

the 64 bit lite?

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@...]

Subject: How to locate a missing file

Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 2:51 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>

Hi Bill,

 

Thanks for mentioning this utility. I downloaded it with no problem.

It’s easy to install. And that’s saying a lot for me. (LOL)

 

Thanks again.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

*From: *Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

*Sent: *Monday, July 19, 2021 11:47 AM

*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject: *Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Hi, Shirley. I understand your frustration with regard to some Windows

applications saving files in strange places, and not being able to

locate them. This is because, when one tabs to the save file option, the

location of the file is not given. Here's what I did to stop all that

nonsense. I installed a Windows file utility called Search Everything.

This utility will, when started, search for files with a given name or

partial name, and will also list its location. I will give the link for

the website where you can download Search Everything. Since I have a

64-bit system, I download the 64-bit version of the program.

 

https://www.voidtools.com/ <https://www.voidtools.com/>

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of

*Shirley Tracy

*Sent:* Monday, July 19, 2021 8:34 AM

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* How to locate a missing file

 

I wrote something in WORD PAD, and when I went to open it again it was

not there. I wrote the information in a new WORD PAD file and when I

tried to save it, I received the message that I already had that file.

So, how do I find it? It’s not in “file explorer.” This has all happened

since the latest update of Microsoft.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheerfully,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How to locate a missing file

Mario
 

Bill or anyone else, regarding the portable versions of Search Everything, do you know what is the difference between the 64 bit and the 64 bit lite?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@gmail.com]
Subject: How to locate a missing file
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Hi Bill,

Thanks for mentioning this utility. I downloaded it with no problem.
It’s easy to install. And that’s saying a lot for me. (LOL)

Thanks again.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>
*Sent: *Monday, July 19, 2021 11:47 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: How to locate a missing file

Hi, Shirley. I understand your frustration with regard to some Windows
applications saving files in strange places, and not being able to
locate them. This is because, when one tabs to the save file option, the
location of the file is not given. Here's what I did to stop all that
nonsense. I installed a Windows file utility called Search Everything.
This utility will, when started, search for files with a given name or
partial name, and will also list its location. I will give the link for
the website where you can download Search Everything. Since I have a
64-bit system, I download the 64-bit version of the program.

https://www.voidtools.com/ <https://www.voidtools.com/>

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Monday, July 19, 2021 8:34 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* How to locate a missing file

I wrote something in WORD PAD, and when I went to open it again it was
not there. I wrote the information in a new WORD PAD file and when I
tried to save it, I received the message that I already had that file.
So, how do I find it? It’s not in “file explorer.” This has all happened
since the latest update of Microsoft.

Thanks for any help.

Cheerfully,

Shirley Tracy


.


Edit Boxes On A WEB App

Steven Hicks
 

Hi friends,

 

I Have a web app with edit boxes.

Just recently, when I move to an edit box it has started to say edit contains text on a certain edit box and it seems to repeat what is in the edit box twice.

It is the latest JAWS but I have also tried it with JAWS 2020 and on two machines.

Using the Edge Chrom browser, seems like it is something odd in the app but does anyone have any ideas?

 


Re: How to locate a missing file

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Bill,

 

Thanks for mentioning this utility. I downloaded it with no problem. It’s easy to install. And that’s saying a lot for me. (LOL)

 

Thanks again.

  

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Hi, Shirley. I understand your frustration with regard to some Windows applications saving files in strange places, and not being able to locate them. This is because, when one tabs to the save file option, the location of the file is not given. Here's what I did to stop all that nonsense. I installed a Windows file utility called Search Everything. This utility will, when started, search for files with a given name or partial name, and will also list its location. I will give the link for the website where you can download Search Everything. Since I have a 64-bit system, I download the 64-bit version of the program.

 

https://www.voidtools.com/

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to locate a missing file

 

I wrote something in WORD PAD, and when I went to open it again it was not there. I wrote the information in a new WORD PAD file and when I tried to save it, I received the message that I already had that file. So, how do I find it? It’s not in “file explorer.” This has all happened since the latest update of Microsoft.

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley Tracy

 


Re: 104 US layout wireless keyboard

Dave Durber
 


Brjian:
 
It is not that I do not want the keys above the F1 and F2 keys, it was that I did not want the 104 keys to include those keys at the top of the keyboard.

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: 104 US layout wireless keyboard

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
excluding any keys which may be located above the F1 to F12 keys
-  
Just curious as to why you excluded options with the additional keys?

Not questioning your preference or right to do so, but curious about your reasoning.  I've often found those keys to be very handy to have for their specific functions, and even if you don't use 'em they just "sit there" otherwise.  They're also quite difficult to accidentally press.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Sharon S
 

Hi, when I used it last Thursday I got the messages when people joined and left.

From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2021 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago.
It's all very odd indeed.


On 7/26/2021 11:41 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
Did you make any changes to your accessibility settings in Zoom? Do you have the notifications for Zoom muted in JAWS? Alt+Windows key+S
Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed JAWS isn't announcing when participants enter and leave Zoom meetings lately? I noticed it about a week ago, but I don't think there were any JAWS or Zoom updates that week--not until yesterday anyway.


Re: 104 US layout wireless keyboard

 

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
excluding any keys which may be located above the F1 to F12 keys
-  
Just curious as to why you excluded options with the additional keys?

Not questioning your preference or right to do so, but curious about your reasoning.  I've often found those keys to be very handy to have for their specific functions, and even if you don't use 'em they just "sit there" otherwise.  They're also quite difficult to accidentally press.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


104 US layout wireless keyboard

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:
 
My trusty Logitech wireless keyboard stopped working about 2 months ago, therefore, I am on the look out for a replacement.
 
I searched on the internet for a 104 US layout wireless keyboard, excluding any keys which may be located above the F1 to F12 keys. While the searches resulted in several, I cannot make up my mind which one to choose.
 
Are there any members on the list who are using a 104 US layout wireless keyboard. If there are, I would be interested, in knowing the make and model and if the keys have a good tactile feel and whether the keys have a mechanical or electronic action.
 
I look forward to any and all information.
 
Dave
 
 


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

David Diamond
 

I've not noticed anything different, it still alerts me, if I let it, to who leaves, or joins. I have JAWS running through a separate audio channel.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago.
It's all very odd indeed.


On 7/26/2021 11:41 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
Did you make any changes to your accessibility settings in Zoom? Do you have the notifications for Zoom muted in JAWS? Alt+Windows key+S
Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed JAWS isn't announcing when participants enter and leave Zoom meetings lately? I noticed it about a week ago, but I don't think there were any JAWS or Zoom updates that week--not until yesterday anyway.


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Jason White
 

On 26/7/21 11:49 am, Steve Matzura wrote:
I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago. It's all very odd indeed.
Try Insert+Space, Z to switch to the default JAWS configuration, then perform a test. If the problem goes away, it's something in your JAWS configuration.


Re: JAWS Seems to No Longer Speak Zoom Meeting Joins

Steve Matzura
 

I haven't made a single update to my system--not even a Windows update--in over two weeks. The last Zoom update was maybe a month ago. It's all very odd indeed.

On 7/26/2021 11:41 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
Did you make any changes to your accessibility settings in Zoom? Do you have the notifications for Zoom muted in JAWS? Alt+Windows key+S
Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@icloud.com



On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed JAWS isn't announcing when participants enter and leave Zoom meetings lately? I noticed it about a week ago, but I don't think there were any JAWS or Zoom updates that week--not until yesterday anyway.

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