question on output ona Focus 40 Braille Display
Jeff Lukacsena
Hello List, I am running the newest version of Jaws 2021.527 I have a Focus 40 Braille display on a Windows 10 laptop. Does anyone know how to switch the Braille output on the display from grade 1 Braille to grade 2 Braille? Thanks, Jeff Lukacsena, Pittsburgh, PA
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punctuation when reading by word
Andrew James Bontrager
What do I need to adjust, either in Jaws or other
programs, to have Jaws read each word with its punctuation
included?
If I type the following in Notepad:
We went to Washington, D. C. yesterday, and all
was well.
When I read
through the sentence by word, the commas and periods are treated as part of each
word. This is what I want all the time.
If I write that same message in Microsoft Word,
Jaws treats the punctuation as separate words when reading word by
word.
In Ted Notepad, where I really want to work, the
problem gets worse when writing out words with apostrophes followed by commas.
Then you have to deal with three stops when reviewing by word. This makes it
especially hard when writing any kind of code, because Jaws stops at every
parenthesis and bracket.
Can someone help?
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Re: buttons on web pages
Randy Barnett
Ya kinda sad... I have been paying for Jaws for over 25yrs. No I
don't want you to tell me how much that is! LOL But I am finding
that the free alternatives are working more and more when Jaws
won't. don't get me wrong I am not ready to switch. Having to
relearn all the little tricks and work arounds for a new screen
reader is daunting.
On 1/21/2021 4:11 PM, Chris Chaffin
wrote:
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Re: buttons on web pages
Justin Williams
Try turning off the virtual cursor.
ALso, I think there is a way of using the mouse cursor with the keyboard, but I've never done it before.
Thanks,
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: buttons on web pages
I ran into the same problem yesterday when completing a report on a site for work. I also had a few radio buttons that Jaws would not select no matter what I tried.
I finally just temporarily turned off Jaws and turned on Narrator to do those few task. Since Narrator did the task without a problem, that told me that the problem is with Jaws. At least thats the case with the problems that I was having.
Chris
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Re: buttons on web pages
Chris Chaffin
I ran into the same problem yesterday when completing a report on a site for work. I also had a few radio buttons that Jaws would not select no matter what I tried. I finally just temporarily turned off Jaws and turned on Narrator to do those few task. Since Narrator did the task without a problem, that told me that the problem is with Jaws. At least thats the case with the problems that I was having. Chris
On Jan 21, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflower61@...> wrote:
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mighty networks
Justin Williams
Does anyone have any experience with mighty networks?
How accessible is it? I have jaws 2019 And windows 10. Thanks,
Justin
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Re: YouTube subscriptions questions and best practices
JM Casey
Well, the youtube interface becomes pretty clear once you go through it and play around a bit. Once you have channel subscriptions, there will be a tab on the page that you can select and open that will display a list of channels you have subscribed to. But some of that content, especially new content, will also appear on the youtube home page. It’s not complicated, but the best way to understand is just to use it. Also, definitely recommend using chromium-based browsers with youtube as they will be fast and responsive to player key-presses especially (skipping around, pausing, and so on).
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Re: buttons on web pages
Randy Barnett
So, if using the PC cursor or the Jaws cursor or turning off the
Virtual cursor doesn't work with the space-bar, enter key or the
left mouse click. Try using the touch cursor. shift plus PC
cursor. Then go to the button and try all of the ways to activate
it. double click the PC cursor quickly to exit touch cursor.
Sometimes using the jaws cursor and right or left arrow'ing in the
button will help. This works mostly with links but you never know
what will work nowadays!
On 1/21/2021 1:35 PM, Tammy Freitag
wrote:
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Re: YouTube subscriptions questions and best practices
Van Lant, Robin
I’m not sure if I have additional questions yet. I guess I need to start by seeing if an old Google login still works or creating a new one so that I can do subscriptions. My sighted husband uses subscriptions a lot, but I wanted to be sure it worked OK with JAWS before I bothered wit the Google account business.
I’ll have to play with the RSS approach that Hope suggested, too. That may be a little beyond me at the moment, unless I add it to the RSS feed in Outlook. Kind of feeling overwhelmed by having to learn a bunch of new technology at work lately, which is why I want to get the Freedom Scientific channel easily accessible.
Robin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Hope Williamson
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: YouTube subscriptions questions and best practices
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.
You can do this without an Youtube account via RSS. Here's the RSS feed for the FS channel. https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCLlctxRAroB4ApeQd5b_I6A All the RSS feed URLS for Youtube start like that, the only thing that's different is the channel ID. There are userscripts I use to find RSS feeds, including ones for Youtube. They require installing a browser extension, then installing the script itself.
On 1/21/2021 11:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: How to Turn off numlock at start with fusion
Cohn, Jonathan
Hello,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
There is a setting for this I believe in the option->General settings. I also think it shows up in the Startup Wizard that you can re-run via the help menu in JAWS. Jonathan
On Jan 20, 2021, at 20:47, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Re: buttons on web pages
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 05:11 PM, Tammy Freitag wrote:
Also, I am using the browser called Brave.- Although I use Brave myself, and very seldom have any unusual issues, it is always worth trying another Chromium-based browser to see if that changes anything. Brave's emphasis on privacy, and how it implements things to best ensure that, can cause the occasional "burp." Chrome, Edge, Vivaldi, or even Firefox (if you want to go non-Chromium-based) are alternatives that could be tried. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: buttons on web pages
Tammy Freitag
No. This is something I have not tried. I will pop back over there and give it a go. Thanks! Tammy
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: buttons on web pages
Have you tried turning the virtual cursor off with the keystroke JAWS Key/Insert and the letter Z? Then if you loose focus on the button try to find it and press the spacebar.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Ok, I am baffled. I was filling out a form on a web site. I successfully completed the form and could not activate the button to submit the form. I am finding this to be a big headache on other sites I use. I am running JFW2020. I tried using the spacebar, enter and even left click. No luck! Does anybody have any suggestions how to make clicking buttons work? Thanks! Tammy
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Re: buttons on web pages
Tammy Freitag
Yes, good question! Yes, I was able to navigate to it by pressing the letter b. This is why I was baffled. Also, I am using the browser called Brave.
Thanks! Tammy
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 4:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: buttons on web pages
Serious question: Are you certain it's a button? (That is, can you land on it using the B browsing shortcut?) Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: buttons on web pages
Serious question: Are you certain it's a button? (That is, can you land on it using the B browsing shortcut?)
In recent years there has been what I consider an awful trend, and that is creating links that appear visually as buttons. I'm constantly seeing things that any sane person (who can also see, literally) would presume are buttons that are not, in actuality, buttons. If this thing is a link rather than a button you can find it with screen reader search or by bringing up the list of links and looking for a submit link. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: buttons on web pages
Milton Ota
Have you tried turning the virtual cursor off with the keystroke JAWS Key/Insert and the letter Z? Then if you loose focus on the button try to find it and press the spacebar.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:35 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: buttons on web pages
Ok, I am baffled. I was filling out a form on a web site. I successfully completed the form and could not activate the button to submit the form. I am finding this to be a big headache on other sites I use. I am running JFW2020. I tried using the spacebar, enter and even left click. No luck! Does anybody have any suggestions how to make clicking buttons work? Thanks! Tammy
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buttons on web pages
Tammy Freitag
Ok, I am baffled. I was filling out a form on a web site. I successfully completed the form and could not activate the button to submit the form. I am finding this to be a big headache on other sites I use. I am running JFW2020. I tried using the spacebar, enter and even left click. No luck! Does anybody have any suggestions how to make clicking buttons work? Thanks! Tammy
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Re: YouTube subscriptions questions and best practices
Hope Williamson
You can do this without an Youtube account via RSS. Here's the
RSS feed for the FS channel.
https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCLlctxRAroB4ApeQd5b_I6A All the RSS feed URLS for Youtube
start like that, the only thing that's different is the channel
ID. There are userscripts I use to find RSS feeds, including ones
for Youtube. They require installing a browser extension, then
installing the script itself.
On 1/21/2021 11:02 AM, JM Casey wrote:
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Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!
Dan Longmore
Hi again, You can always back up your scripts to a different location for peace of mind. Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!
I went directly to the web site and pulled down the update. Downloaded it and then went via windows explorer found the file and hit enter on it and it ran fine.
Was hoping to avoid having to remove jaws2021 if I remove it and leave shared components will that leave my scripts alone because I’ve got numerous made scripts installed in my user’s directory.
Thanks
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, You may need to un install 2021 altogether and begin fresh. Remember to leave shared components. Did you get the update through the auto update in the program or did you download the file from Freedom? I have gone to, and Vespero agrees, getting the update directly from web site as auto update often has problems after a new install.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Hi all!
First I’ve reached out to Vispero support and asked my questions. Unfortunately am attending a summit so can’t place a phone call to them til Monday.
Has anyone experienced problems with the J2021.2012.57.400-any that was published Tuesday?
I grabbed it yesterday and installed it last night. I had the early January jaws 2021 running successfully on my system.
Anyways, after installing it I rebooted and now jaws2021 will not run. So I started the J2021.2012.57.400-any again and it immediately said that it needed to run a repair. So I did. But it comes back immediately and crashes.
Yes, I’m working on an account that has admin rights on my system.
So looking for things I can do to get the repair working etc. or things I can try while waiting for Monday so I can talk to Vispero support.
My work station is windows 10 19.09 patched up to date. Reason for older windows 10 build is corporate company requirements.
Thanks all for your suggestions.
Have a good day.
Shan Noyes Technical Analyst – Systems Security GIAC W: 306 777-4830 C: 306 533-1440
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Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!
Dan Longmore
Yes, scripts should remain if you leave shared components.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!
I went directly to the web site and pulled down the update. Downloaded it and then went via windows explorer found the file and hit enter on it and it ran fine.
Was hoping to avoid having to remove jaws2021 if I remove it and leave shared components will that leave my scripts alone because I’ve got numerous made scripts installed in my user’s directory.
Thanks
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, You may need to un install 2021 altogether and begin fresh. Remember to leave shared components. Did you get the update through the auto update in the program or did you download the file from Freedom? I have gone to, and Vespero agrees, getting the update directly from web site as auto update often has problems after a new install.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Hi all!
First I’ve reached out to Vispero support and asked my questions. Unfortunately am attending a summit so can’t place a phone call to them til Monday.
Has anyone experienced problems with the J2021.2012.57.400-any that was published Tuesday?
I grabbed it yesterday and installed it last night. I had the early January jaws 2021 running successfully on my system.
Anyways, after installing it I rebooted and now jaws2021 will not run. So I started the J2021.2012.57.400-any again and it immediately said that it needed to run a repair. So I did. But it comes back immediately and crashes.
Yes, I’m working on an account that has admin rights on my system.
So looking for things I can do to get the repair working etc. or things I can try while waiting for Monday so I can talk to Vispero support.
My work station is windows 10 19.09 patched up to date. Reason for older windows 10 build is corporate company requirements.
Thanks all for your suggestions.
Have a good day.
Shan Noyes Technical Analyst – Systems Security GIAC W: 306 777-4830 C: 306 533-1440
NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender. NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.
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Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!
Shan Noyes
I went directly to the web site and pulled down the update. Downloaded it and then went via windows explorer found the file and hit enter on it and it ran fine.
Was hoping to avoid having to remove jaws2021 if I remove it and leave shared components will that leave my scripts alone because I’ve got numerous made scripts installed in my user’s directory.
Thanks
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: J2021.2012.57.400-any installation problems & questions!
------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, You may need to un install 2021 altogether and begin fresh. Remember to leave shared components. Did you get the update through the auto update in the program or did you download the file from Freedom? I have gone to, and Vespero agrees, getting the update directly from web site as auto update often has problems after a new install.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Hi all!
First I’ve reached out to Vispero support and asked my questions. Unfortunately am attending a summit so can’t place a phone call to them til Monday.
Has anyone experienced problems with the J2021.2012.57.400-any that was published Tuesday?
I grabbed it yesterday and installed it last night. I had the early January jaws 2021 running successfully on my system.
Anyways, after installing it I rebooted and now jaws2021 will not run. So I started the J2021.2012.57.400-any again and it immediately said that it needed to run a repair. So I did. But it comes back immediately and crashes.
Yes, I’m working on an account that has admin rights on my system.
So looking for things I can do to get the repair working etc. or things I can try while waiting for Monday so I can talk to Vispero support.
My work station is windows 10 19.09 patched up to date. Reason for older windows 10 build is corporate company requirements.
Thanks all for your suggestions.
Have a good day.
Shan Noyes Technical Analyst – Systems Security GIAC W: 306 777-4830 C: 306 533-1440
NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.
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