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moderated Re: summer convention specials

Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
 

Thank you!

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:49:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials
 

Go to

Nfb.org/convention

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

Hello!

 

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

 

Best

 

Thabo

 

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

 

Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 


moderated Re: summer convention specials

NFB Lab 4
 

Go to

Nfb.org/convention

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

Hello!

 

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

 

Best

 

Thabo

 

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

 

Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 


moderated Re: summer convention specials

Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
 

Hello!

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

Best

Thabo

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials
 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.


Gerald



On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 


moderated Re: summer convention specials

David Goldfield
 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.


Gerald



On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 


moderated Re: Malware Program

Jason White
 

Just to amplify Brian’s point here, one shouldn’t expect people who don’t need screen readers to be proficient in their use, except for accessibility specialists whose job requires them to have this knowledge. All of the proficient screen reader users I know who are sighted are also accessibility specialists by profession.

 

Not every organization that develops software has accessibility specialists on staff. The larger and better resourced ones are more likely to employ them, but it isn’t yet the norm everywhere. Some rely on consultants who can provide training and remediation services, but not everyone can afford those either. Education for software developers is crucially important.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 11:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

Mike,

           As you note, there are two sides to this coin.  The only thing I'll say is that I'm one of the very, very few sighted people I know who can use screen readers with any basic proficiency.  My central point, I guess, is that you who are screen reader users need to push, push, push and report, report, report, if you want to have any chance of moving the needle on accessibility for programs that aren't already there.

            It's not that you can't count on me to do what I can, but what I can do is a lot less than can be achieved by screen reader users becoming their own advocates on a consistent basis.  

            And I commend you on instructing the folks you were working with to install a screen reader and, I'd imagine, direct them on using same to get a direct feel for what you are presented with.  That's part and parcel of the necessary advocacy, too.  Blind folks can teach the sighted a lot more about screen readers, their purpose, and how they work than they will ever, ever be inclined to learn on their own, because they don't need them.  It cannot be helped, and it's pretty standard operating procedure, in technical support situations for the subject matter experts in a given thing to have to teach those who aren't.  And screen reader users must take on that role in regard to screen readers.

             Accessibility is not the battle of the sighted, and it never will be.  It's the battle of those that need it.  Part of that is cultivating sighted allies and increasing awareness of exactly how your world works (or doesn't, as the case may be) in interactions with technology.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: amazon

Adrian Spratt
 

I have never experienced this problem, no matter which version of JAWS I use. For the record, it's now the latest release of JAWS 2020.

The reason to avoid Internet Explorer is the diminished security support that I understand Microsoft now provides.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon


I have noticed that both Google Chrome and Mozilla firefox frequently crash when accessing Amazon.com using JAWS 2019.  This most often happens after I enter a search term into the Amazon search field.  The search results page will begin to load, but as soon as I try scrolling through the results, boom, the browser crashes.  Trying to restore the session from the restore dialog that pops up when I relaunch the browser never works, and almost always causes the browser to crash again when it attempts to reload the Amazon search results page.  It does not matter whether I use the latest version of Chrome, the latest version of Firefox or Firefox 52 ESR.  Interestingly,I do not experience these problems when using IE to access Amazon.com, proving yet again that reports of IE's uselessness as a web browser have been greatly exagerrated.


Gerald



On 6/2/2020 11:05 PM, Judy wrote:
I have used I.E as well as well as Google Chrome. I find the easiest
thing to do is press the letter F and it will find the edit field and
type in what I'm looking for and then scroll down through the list of
items, press enter for the one you want to check out and when you find
what you want press enter on the "add to cart button." It was
frustrating at first getting used to the layout of the page. I hope this helped, but write back if it didn't.
Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amir
Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use internet explore

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use the latest version of Firefox without any problems.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Judy [mailto:bunchkinbear@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 6:43 PM
Subject: amazon
Hi, what browser are you trying to use? My experience is that it does
differ on how easy it is depending on the browser. Judy

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Amir Shah
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* amazon

Hi my name is Amir  shah,  and I  am trying to place a order on
amazon.com website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion please?













moderated Re: amazon

Gerald Levy
 

I have noticed that both Google Chrome and Mozilla firefox frequently crash when accessing Amazon.com using JAWS 2019.  This most often happens after I enter a search term into the Amazon search field.  The search results page will begin to load, but as soon as I try scrolling through the results, boom, the browser crashes.  Trying to restore the session from the restore dialog that pops up when I relaunch the browser never works, and almost always causes the browser to crash again when it attempts to reload the Amazon search results page.  It does not matter whether I use the latest version of Chrome, the latest version of Firefox or Firefox 52 ESR.  Interestingly,I do not experience these problems when using IE to access Amazon.com, proving yet again that reports of IE's uselessness as a web browser have been greatly exagerrated.


Gerald

On 6/2/2020 11:05 PM, Judy wrote:
I have used I.E as well as well as Google Chrome. I find the easiest thing
to do is press the letter F and it will find the edit field and type in what
I'm looking for and then scroll down through the list of items, press enter
for the one you want to check out and when you find what you want press
enter on the "add to cart button." It was frustrating at first getting used
to the layout of the page. I hope this helped, but write back if it didn't.
Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amir Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use internet explore

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use the latest version of Firefox without any problems.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Judy [mailto:bunchkinbear@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 6:43 PM
Subject: amazon
Hi, what browser are you trying to use? My experience is that it does differ
on how easy it is depending on the browser. Judy

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Amir
Shah
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* amazon

Hi my name is Amir  shah,  and I  am trying to place a order on amazon.com
website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion please?












moderated Re: summer convention specials

Gerald Levy
 


Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.


Gerald



On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 


moderated summer convention specials

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 


moderated Re: amazon

David Diamond
 

The question is, when did you  talk to them?  LOL.  It’s already been mention though that they are taking calls again.  When I called them a couple of weeks ago, they weren’t.  It never hurts to call. 


moderated Re: amazon

David Diamond
 

That’s good news.  By enlarge they are quicker then most telephone help desks.  I just don’t call them after 10 PM PST.  The reason is, often they act preoccupied or in one case, I heard the TV and children in the background and it was clear the person answering had her mind somewhere else. 


moderated Re: amazon

David Diamond
 

I always make sure before proceeding to checkout that everything is correct, quantity price etcetera.  Then and only then after making sure there are no surprises, I proceed to checkout.  It may sound minor but I want to make sure the quantity is what I want and not more or the price is different then the one stated. Sometimes the rating is higher or lower when I get to the save to cart heading.   


moderated Re: amazon

David Diamond
 

The general command is, once on the amazon page, hit the letter E, that puts you in the edit field.  Then type what you want or if you know what it is because it has been recommended, paste it, after copying it first of course,  into the same field.  Then you can either tab or arrow your way down twice to the go link and hit the enter key.  Sometimes what happens with me is it lands at the bottom of the page thus I have to do a control home command.  Having said this, I’m not sure exactly what you are having a problem with.  Is it purchasing it or not even getting far enough to put it in your cart then checkout. 


moderated Re: Malware Program

 

Mike,

           As you note, there are two sides to this coin.  The only thing I'll say is that I'm one of the very, very few sighted people I know who can use screen readers with any basic proficiency.  My central point, I guess, is that you who are screen reader users need to push, push, push and report, report, report, if you want to have any chance of moving the needle on accessibility for programs that aren't already there.

            It's not that you can't count on me to do what I can, but what I can do is a lot less than can be achieved by screen reader users becoming their own advocates on a consistent basis.  

            And I commend you on instructing the folks you were working with to install a screen reader and, I'd imagine, direct them on using same to get a direct feel for what you are presented with.  That's part and parcel of the necessary advocacy, too.  Blind folks can teach the sighted a lot more about screen readers, their purpose, and how they work than they will ever, ever be inclined to learn on their own, because they don't need them.  It cannot be helped, and it's pretty standard operating procedure, in technical support situations for the subject matter experts in a given thing to have to teach those who aren't.  And screen reader users must take on that role in regard to screen readers.

             Accessibility is not the battle of the sighted, and it never will be.  It's the battle of those that need it.  Part of that is cultivating sighted allies and increasing awareness of exactly how your world works (or doesn't, as the case may be) in interactions with technology.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Mike B
 


Brian,
 
You or someone else that can see and uses a screenreading program might be the perfect people to explain accessibility issues.  Someone that doesn't have enough vision to see what's on the screen can't compare what they hear to what's actually there on the screen.  I am by no means trying to excuse my self from reporting personal navigation issues, but when trying to explain to people that could be possibly using a translation programs to read an English speakers email or, English is a 2nd or 3rd language to them, a lot can be lost in the explanation.  my experience will be reported, but I need to reinstall Zemana and make notes of both keyboard navigation & mouse simulation keystrokes performed and what Jaws reports with these commands.  What really helps if someone of the program tech support staff installs a screenreading program to get a taste of what's happening.
 
While I was working with MWB and0Patch, both installed screenreading programs to try to get a feel for what the blind person experiences, and it really helped a lot with them understanding what I was trying to convey to them!  Okay folks, attack!  LOL  LOL 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:51 AM, Mike B wrote:
I totally understand that many things are done without knowing and programs such as Zemana won't know how to deal with screenreader users unless they are informed by the screenreader users themselves.
Please, for the love of all that's decent and pure, repeat this, inserting the correct company, as often as necessary!!

As the really odd-man out on groups such as this one, being that I can see, I know that when I say this sort of thing, and with the best of motivations (having been a developer once and knowing you can't and won't address things never brought to your attention, by anyone), that it comes across as being preached at, or at least can.  That doesn't change the fact that is absolutely, positively true.

And I will never be able to describe the problems encountered, even were I to try, in a way that accurately depicts what an actual screen-reader user experiences.  It's a divide I know I can't cross.

Your community needs more advocates such as yourself because, believe me (and as you certainly well know), most of the sighted world doesn't give computer accessibility a second thought.  It's not something they need, and we all tend to focus on our own needs to a very great extent.  And if you're in any sort of minority, you're going to have to constantly push to have those needs acknowledged and acted upon.  And you'll often hit walls, but you simply cannot stop because of that.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: amazon

Judy
 

I have used I.E as well as well as Google Chrome. I find the easiest thing
to do is press the letter F and it will find the edit field and type in what
I'm looking for and then scroll down through the list of items, press enter
for the one you want to check out and when you find what you want press
enter on the "add to cart button." It was frustrating at first getting used
to the layout of the page. I hope this helped, but write back if it didn't.
Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amir Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use internet explore

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use the latest version of Firefox without any problems.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Judy [mailto:bunchkinbear@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 6:43 PM
Subject: amazon
Hi, what browser are you trying to use? My experience is that it does differ
on how easy it is depending on the browser. Judy

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Amir
Shah
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* amazon

Hi my name is Amir  shah,  and I  am trying to place a order on amazon.com
website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion please?


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Mike B
 


I just checked my Windows 10 scanner, and after doing the keystroke to scan a document with Jaws OCR it took a couple of minutes for the list to populate and show the Epson Perfection WIA option.  When someone is referring to a, TWAIN driver, it's the, WIA driver option you will see in Openbook if OB were installed.
Below are what the acronym TWAIN supposedly stands for:
 TWAIN literally means a, Tool Without an Interesting Name, or technology without an interesting name.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

Please remind me as to how to check that.  I am using Windows 7.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book
 

Does this HP all in one has a Twain Driver or does it just use the HP software?

I’m not sure the Jaws Convenient OCR would see it if it has some other software that drives it.

 

You might want to check for a Twain driver.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Marty,

 

To be honest I've never run into this issue you've encountered.  Is your printer scanner set as the default?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 1:32 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Mike, this is the message that I get.

“OCR failed to start.  No supported scanners or cameras available.”

There is no list to arrow through.

Thanks.

Marty

If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

So, when you invoke the, Insert + spacebar, then press the letter, O , then pressing the letter, A , your HP scanner isn't in the scanner and camera list?  What does show in the list of options?  Have you tried using left & right arrow keys as well as the up and down arrow keys?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 10:06 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Mike,  Thanks for this.  I was not aware that this was possible.  When I tried to acquire a document, I got a message saying that there were no scanners or cameras available.  I have a HP Photo Smart all in 1 printer/scanner connected.  How do I get JAWS to recognize it?

Thanks.

Marty

If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:44 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.

 

How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM

Subject: Jaws And Open Book

 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Jaws And Twitter

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Okay thank you for the information.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Twitter

 

Not true. They only email you receive is if someone posted on your fall on Facebook or if anyone breached your account. Same with Twitter.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws And Twitter

 

Not worried about anything, but I heard that they give you unwanted emails and stuff.

Pastor Gil

 


moderated Re: Jaws And Twitter

Lino Morales
 

Not true. They only email you receive is if someone posted on your fall on Facebook or if anyone breached your account. Same with Twitter.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws And Twitter

 

Not worried about anything, but I heard that they give you unwanted emails and stuff.

Pastor Gil

 


moderated Re: amazon

Glenn / Lenny
 

Why can't you just use the letter B to find it.
You might have to tape it more than once.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: amazon


i have to move to the top of the page and search for the cart. thats about
the
only way i will find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon


At the top of the page there is a link to the shopping cart. It usually says
how many products are in your shopping cart and if you click on the link and
scroll down it will tell you what you have in there. Tom

From: Amir Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon


How do I check if something is in my shopping cart and how to I check out





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon







What’s the problem? I place orders on Amazon frequently. You can call their
accessibility line for help, I think there is a link for it on their home
page.
Tom







From: Amir Shah



Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 1:54 PM



To: main@jfw.groups.io



Subject: amazon







Hi my name is Amir shah, and I am trying to place a order on amazon.com
website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion please?