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Re: Installing Jaws on a Windows 10 mini PC.

Shane clark
 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for getting back to me. Now, when you say I would have to activate it, do you mean just calling up Freedom Scientific, and having them help me with that, or how would that work?

Also, I've seemed to have lost your reply regarding how to know whether Jaws will install on the mini PC. Could you please tell me again what I would have to look for before purchasing the device?

Thanks, Shane.

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On August 3, 2017 1:06:39 PM "Shane clark" <hshaneclark@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,

So a friend of mine and I were talking a little earlier this morning, about
Kodi. And I told him that I use it primarily on my Windows 10 laptop, as
their screen reader does not work on other platforms. He then told me, of a
Mini PC that Windows makes, that you could hook up to your TV, and install
Kodi on it. So I was wondering is there a possible way to be able to
install Jaws on there as well? The Mini PC that I'm talking about, I guess
would be similar to an Android set-top box, that you plug into your TV, and
you can watch TV through Kodi or I guess any other app that it may offer.

Freedom Scientific told me, and she was just making an educated guess here,
that she didn't think that it would be possible to install Jaws, so I'm not
really sure. What do you guys say?

Thanks for any and all input, Shane.

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Re: Installing Jaws on a Windows 10 mini PC.

 

These mini PC's are actually called "stick" PC's", they are like a larger USB stick and Intel as well as Asus and some other manufacturers make them.
The Asus is the "Asus Vivostick", https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Stick-PCs/VivoStick-PC-TS10/
The Intel ones are called "ComputeStick", there is also one called "Kangaroo".
They are low-powered PC's which plug into an HDMI port, they also need power via an adapter and usually have a couple of USB ports so you could plug a dongle for Logitech or other keyboard in. They also have WiFi and I think some may have an ethernet port and they usually run Windows 10 Home.
Jaws can be installed on them as they are just a PC running Windows 10 Home, I believe they are usually 32 Gb or 64 Gv in terms on on-board storage and you can connect a USB hard drive to one of the other uSB ports for everything else.
If you Google "stick PC" you'll find a bunch of results with reviews, links to the Intel ComputeStick models etc.
You can also find these with Android, Linex or ChromeOS and Intel does make a much more expensive one with an Intel M processor, more powerful, but also almost $500.

Here is one article which mentions a few:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/best-stick-pcs/

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Installing Jaws on a Windows 10 mini PC.

Hello everyone,

So a friend of mine and I were talking a little earlier this morning, about Kodi. And I told him that I use it primarily on my Windows 10 laptop, as their screen reader does not work on other platforms. He then told me, of a Mini PC that Windows makes, that you could hook up to your TV, and install Kodi on it. So I was wondering is there a possible way to be able to install Jaws on there as well? The Mini PC that I'm talking about, I guess would be similar to an Android set-top box, that you plug into your TV, and you can watch TV through Kodi or I guess any other app that it may offer.

Freedom Scientific told me, and she was just making an educated guess here, that she didn't think that it would be possible to install Jaws, so I'm not really sure. What do you guys say?

Thanks for any and all input, Shane.

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Re: Domain-specific script

Mario
 

Vic, go to https://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts

provide your email address, and since the action is already set to
subscribe,, just submit. maybe there's further action you may have to
take. good luck.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Vic Beckley [mailto:vic.beckley3@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Aug 3, 2017 11:06 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Domain-specific script

How do I join that list?


Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Domain-specific script

This is a better question for the JAWS Scripts users list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Domain-specific script

Hi all,

I am creating a domain-specific script for a certain web page. The page
shows movie listings for HDNet Movies. There are buttons that move to the
previous and next day's schedule. I am trying to activate the next button
using the PerformActionOnElementWithTagAndAttribute function. The class
attribute is exactly the same for both buttons. The only other attribute is
the href= element. When I try to use this in the function it isn't found.
Any ideas how I might accomplish this?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic












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Outlook 2003: Whatever Happened to the Flag Status Announcement?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle
I can't seem to get Outlook 2003 to announce the flag status (Read, Unread, Attachment, Forwarded, Replied To) with JAWS 15. However, it automatically did this in JAWS 10. How do I bring back that setting? Also, in JAWS 10, it says "Move Back", and "Move Forward", when I press Alt+Left/RightArrow Keys. However, in JAWS 15, it only says "Alt+LeftArrow", and "Alt+RightArrow". How do I fix that?

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Re: Domain-specific script

John Covici
 

How do you get on that list, I tried once, but got no response from
the owner and so it was cancelled.

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 10:54:20 -0400,
Richard B. McDonald wrote:

This is a better question for the JAWS Scripts users list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Domain-specific script

Hi all,

I am creating a domain-specific script for a certain web page. The page
shows movie listings for HDNet Movies. There are buttons that move to the
previous and next day's schedule. I am trying to activate the next button
using the PerformActionOnElementWithTagAndAttribute function. The class
attribute is exactly the same for both buttons. The only other attribute is
the href= element. When I try to use this in the function it isn't found.
Any ideas how I might accomplish this?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic







--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: Installing Jaws on a Windows 10 mini PC.

 

Hi,
If the PC runs desktop versions of Windows 10 (that is, Home, Pro,
Enterprise or Education), you'll be able to install JAWS on it although
activation will be required.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Installing Jaws on a Windows 10 mini PC.

Hello everyone,

So a friend of mine and I were talking a little earlier this morning, about
Kodi. And I told him that I use it primarily on my Windows 10 laptop, as
their screen reader does not work on other platforms. He then told me, of a
Mini PC that Windows makes, that you could hook up to your TV, and install
Kodi on it. So I was wondering is there a possible way to be able to install
Jaws on there as well? The Mini PC that I'm talking about, I guess would be
similar to an Android set-top box, that you plug into your TV, and you can
watch TV through Kodi or I guess any other app that it may offer.

Freedom Scientific told me, and she was just making an educated guess here,
that she didn't think that it would be possible to install Jaws, so I'm not
really sure. What do you guys say?

Thanks for any and all input, Shane.

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Installing Jaws on a Windows 10 mini PC.

Shane clark
 

Hello everyone,

So a friend of mine and I were talking a little earlier this morning, about Kodi. And I told him that I use it primarily on my Windows 10 laptop, as their screen reader does not work on other platforms. He then told me, of a Mini PC that Windows makes, that you could hook up to your TV, and install Kodi on it. So I was wondering is there a possible way to be able to install Jaws on there as well? The Mini PC that I'm talking about, I guess would be similar to an Android set-top box, that you plug into your TV, and you can watch TV through Kodi or I guess any other app that it may offer.

Freedom Scientific told me, and she was just making an educated guess here, that she didn't think that it would be possible to install Jaws, so I'm not really sure. What do you guys say?

Thanks for any and all input, Shane.

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Re: Quick add for Outlook contacts

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Ashleigh P

Works for me; just did it. However, you never mentioned that the e-mail address would be in the name field too, ha ha! After getting that fixed though, it works great.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paul Sandoval
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quick add for Outlook contacts

 

Hi,
I’ll throw in my method for accomplishing this task.

1. Hit enter on the message containing the sender’s address that you would like to add.

2. Press alt 1 twice quickly to move Jaws focus to the sender field.

3. Press control A.,  this will select the sender’s address.

4. Press shift F10 to open the context menu.

5. Press D to select the “Add to Outlook contacts” option.

Many ways to skin a cat.
I hope this helps.

Peace!

> On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:
>
> I was not in a tandem session, but when I pressed the applications key the
> context menu did not open, it did however when I   pressed the right mouse
> button on the numpad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
> Sent: August 2, 2017 2:12 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Quick add for Outlook contacts
>
> Thanks. I tried a couple things like this in a tandem connection today. But
> I was unable to get the context menu to open. Are there known problems with
> opening the context menu remotely during a tandem session?
>
> But it's good to know the procedure for doing this in Office 365 is
> essentially unchanged from what I do with my old Office 2010. Next time, if
> I run into the same issue, I'll just have my friend try it on her computer
> directly.
>
> Thanks again,
>   -Paul
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> david
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:52 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: Quick add for Outlook contacts
>>
>> hello;
>>
>> give the following a try;
>>
>> 1, enter on the message of a contact you wish to add,
>>
>> 2, now shift+tab  until you hear;
>> we'll use this email as an example;
>> from:  main@jfw.groups.io; on behalf of; Paul Martz
>> <skewmatrix@... hold down shift key, and press the left arrow,
>> you should hear; Paul Martz <skewmatrix@... now press the
> applications key, up arrow enter on, add to outlook contacts, now, press
> alt+s=save.
>> note you can go through the various criteria to make sure it's there, but,
> you should have no problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul
>> Martz
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 1:42 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: Quick add for Outlook contacts
>>
>> Hi all. I'm looking for a quick way to add the sender of an open email
> message to my contacts.
>>
>> I'm getting this information for a friend of mine, who has Office 365
>> on a Windows 10 system. I don't have access to
> such a
>> setup, so I can't tinker around to find a solution. If someone here
>> can tell me how to do this, I'll teach her how in
> our next
>> tandem session. Thanks.
>>   -Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>


 


Re: Looking for participants for user research

Maria Campbell
 

Good one.  I'll go.


lucky1inct@...
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 8/3/2017 11:40 AM, Tony wrote:

Is transportation provided?

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for participants for user research

 

Well, that certainly changes things just a tiny bit. I was initially concerned that this was a fishing expedition, and still not convinced otherwise.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: elodie@...

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 06:12

Subject: Looking for participants for user research

 

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: I forgot to say that the testing will be in London Uk on 14th of September]

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.
The testing will be one to one in London UK on the 14th of September.

Thank you for considering

Elodie



Re: Quick add for Outlook contacts

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Thanks Steve and Paul. These are both awesome methods, very quick and simple. I don't do this often myself, so I'm going to jot it down in a note for later reference. And I'm sure these methods will be helpful for my friend that I've been assisting remotely. Thanks again.
-Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quick add for Outlook contacts

And another way:
Press Ctrl + Shift + Y and you get a tree view of your folders; press C until you're on Contacts, then Enter

This copies the message into the Contacts folder, creating a new contact and putting the text of the email in the Notes
area.

Steve


Re: Looking for participants for user research

Tony
 

Is transportation provided?

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for participants for user research

 

Well, that certainly changes things just a tiny bit. I was initially concerned that this was a fishing expedition, and still not convinced otherwise.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: elodie@...

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 06:12

Subject: Looking for participants for user research

 

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: I forgot to say that the testing will be in London Uk on 14th of September]

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.
The testing will be one to one in London UK on the 14th of September.

Thank you for considering

Elodie


Re: Looking for participants for user research

Dave...
 


Well, that certainly changes things just a tiny bit. I was initially concerned that this was a fishing expedition, and still not convinced otherwise.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: elodie@...
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 06:12
Subject: Looking for participants for user research

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: I forgot to say that the testing will be in London Uk on 14th of September]

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.
The testing will be one to one in London UK on the 14th of September.

Thank you for considering

Elodie


Re: Domain-specific script

Vic Beckley
 

How do I join that list?


Vic

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Domain-specific script

This is a better question for the JAWS Scripts users list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Domain-specific script

Hi all,

I am creating a domain-specific script for a certain web page. The page
shows movie listings for HDNet Movies. There are buttons that move to the
previous and next day's schedule. I am trying to activate the next button
using the PerformActionOnElementWithTagAndAttribute function. The class
attribute is exactly the same for both buttons. The only other attribute is
the href= element. When I try to use this in the function it isn't found.
Any ideas how I might accomplish this?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


Re: Domain-specific script

Richard B. McDonald
 

This is a better question for the JAWS Scripts users list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Domain-specific script

Hi all,

I am creating a domain-specific script for a certain web page. The page
shows movie listings for HDNet Movies. There are buttons that move to the
previous and next day's schedule. I am trying to activate the next button
using the PerformActionOnElementWithTagAndAttribute function. The class
attribute is exactly the same for both buttons. The only other attribute is
the href= element. When I try to use this in the function it isn't found.
Any ideas how I might accomplish this?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


Re: Looking for participants for user research

James Homuth
 

Folks,
 
I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but to avoid filling the list with "me too" style messages, can we please mail the original poster directly? Thanks.
 
James,
List Admin


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: August-03-17 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for participants for user research

Hi,

I am interested in participating in the User Research. I use JAWS on a Windows 10 computer & voiceover on an iPhone 7 & an iPad. 

Donna 

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.

Thank you for considering

Elodie


Re: Looking for participants for user research

Donna <mermaid7@...>
 

Hi,

I am interested in participating in the User Research. I use JAWS on a Windows 10 computer & voiceover on an iPhone 7 & an iPad. 

Donna 

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.

Thank you for considering

Elodie


Re: Jaws & desktop issues

 

What list are you talking about in Word?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

I'm still getting various announcements when pressing Windows D on top of the ones I already listed in my original post but not once has it ever said "desktop". Windows M almost always takes me to the desktop and says desktop but sometimes it won't take me there ...... It just doesn't do anything except say "Windows m and then nothing. I also have the same issue you mentioned in Word about the last file closed being at the bottom of the list ...... This does not happen every time ...... Just randomly.

Laura



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

You know with mine, first thing, Windows M will not bring me to the Desktop only Windows D, whereupon it says Recycle, which, of course, I know is the first icon on my Desktop.
Before I go to the Desktop, if I press Insert T, JAWS says, lost focus, press Alt Tab, well, of course, I have done that, got me as far as spitting in the wind, then Windows M, no go, but Windows D gets me there. More and more, as computers are supposed to get better, I have more and more burdens.
In Outlook now, when I come into the Inbox, I have to go to the Server box, then back to the Inbox, then press
Alt+Tab before any emails will arrive. I don't know how my
husband and I managed to figure that out, but I can say it is a downright nuisance, and I think a totally unnecessary problem. In word, sometimes, the last document I closed goes to the bottom of the folders - why, I haven't the slightest idea, just a little thing that required extra thought on my part to find the thing. For 12 years, I used JAWS and Windows system without having to endure such nonsense. It just makes me wonder what imposition is around the corner.
If I sound disgusted, then, I have gotten my point across.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Hi Ben,

Thank you for the information ...... This helps a lot.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Hi Laura,

it seems Win+D and Win+M are not exactly the same thing.

Win+D specifically shows the desktop but JAWS
doesn't speak "Desktop" as it should

Win+M minimizes everything it can then JAWS speaks "Desktop"

You can definitively verify for yourself where
Win+anything takes you using JAWS+q
This will announce the currently running program.

So, Win+D then JAWS+Q says shcore.dll
And Win+M then JAWS+Q says shell32.dll

So JAWS knows shell32 is desktop. But it doesn't know shcore.dll is also desktop.

Perhaps this "bug" was introduced in Windows 10 when Microsoft renamed shlwapi.dll to shcore.dll. We can see that Freedom at one time had the former speaking "Desktop" but has not updated it for the latter (see script file "Windows OS.jss")

So Win+M is going to give you the consistent results you're after until VFO fixes.

Hope this helps,

Best,

Ben

At 04:06 PM 7/31/2017, you wrote:
I understand that but it doesn't seem normal for Jaws to randomly give
me variations of what it says when I go to the desktop .. I'm just
trying to find out why this is happening, as well as why every time I
press insert + t Jaws says "documents"
instead of
"desktop".

Laura


Laura

From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

It's normal for Jaws to say folder view.
Try using windows m instead of windows d.

Hope this helps.

Pastor Gil

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:38 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws & desktop issues

Hello,

There are two issues I'm having regarding Jaws and my desktop which
I'll describe below ..
Using Windows 10, Jaws 18, MS Word 2016.

When I go to the desktop by pressing windows + m Jaws will always say
desktop folder view list view and the name of the icon that's
highlighted .. No
problems with this.

When I go to the desktop by pressing windows + d I get a variation of
what Jaws tells me:
*Sometimes it only says the name of the icon that's highlighted (it
does not say desktop or anything else, just the name of the icon)
*Sometimes it says "folder view list view" and the name of the icon
that's highlighted (but not desktop or
anything else)
*Sometimes it says desktop 1 and something about shell something or
another .. This one doesn't happen as often as the other things Jaws
says when I go to the desktop which is why I don't have exactly
what Jaws says.

There seems to be no rhyme or reason and I never know which one of
these Jaws is going to say when I go to the desktop by pressing Windows
+d.

The other issue is that no matter which way I go to the desktop, when I
press insert + t Jaws always says "documents" .. This happens no matter
what icon
is highlighted.

Does anybody have any suggestions or answers as to why these things are
occurring? .. Thank you for any
help.

Laura



Re: Jaws & desktop issues

 

Why not use the regular Outlook shortcut for sending a message which is Control+Enter. If you never used it you'll be asked if from now on you want to enable it and that is that.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Just now when I pressed alt + s to send this message Jaws said "document 6"
...... That's the first time this has happened ......

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 5:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

I'm still getting various announcements when pressing Windows D on top of the ones I already listed in my original post but not once has it ever said "desktop". Windows M almost always takes me to the desktop and says desktop but sometimes it won't take me there ...... It just doesn't do anything except say "Windows m and then nothing. I also have the same issue you mentioned in Word about the last file closed being at the bottom of the list ...... This does not happen every time ...... Just randomly.

Laura



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

You know with mine, first thing, Windows M will not bring me to the Desktop only Windows D, whereupon it says Recycle, which, of course, I know is the first icon on my Desktop.
Before I go to the Desktop, if I press Insert T, JAWS says, lost focus, press Alt Tab, well, of course, I have done that, got me as far as spitting in the wind, then Windows M, no go, but Windows D gets me there. More and more, as computers are supposed to get better, I have more and more burdens.
In Outlook now, when I come into the Inbox, I have to go to the Server box, then back to the Inbox, then press
Alt+Tab before any emails will arrive. I don't know how my
husband and I managed to figure that out, but I can say it is a downright nuisance, and I think a totally unnecessary problem. In word, sometimes, the last document I closed goes to the bottom of the folders - why, I haven't the slightest idea, just a little thing that required extra thought on my part to find the thing. For 12 years, I used JAWS and Windows system without having to endure such nonsense. It just makes me wonder what imposition is around the corner.
If I sound disgusted, then, I have gotten my point across.

Best from,

Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Hi Ben,

Thank you for the information ...... This helps a lot.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Hi Laura,

it seems Win+D and Win+M are not exactly the same thing.

Win+D specifically shows the desktop but JAWS
doesn't speak "Desktop" as it should

Win+M minimizes everything it can then JAWS speaks "Desktop"

You can definitively verify for yourself where
Win+anything takes you using JAWS+q
This will announce the currently running program.

So, Win+D then JAWS+Q says shcore.dll
And Win+M then JAWS+Q says shell32.dll

So JAWS knows shell32 is desktop. But it doesn't know shcore.dll is also desktop.

Perhaps this "bug" was introduced in Windows 10 when Microsoft renamed shlwapi.dll to shcore.dll. We can see that Freedom at one time had the former speaking "Desktop" but has not updated it for the latter (see script file "Windows OS.jss")

So Win+M is going to give you the consistent results you're after until VFO fixes.

Hope this helps,

Best,

Ben

At 04:06 PM 7/31/2017, you wrote:
I understand that but it doesn't seem normal for Jaws to randomly give
me variations of what it says when I go to the desktop .. I'm just
trying to find out why this is happening, as well as why every time I
press insert + t Jaws says "documents"
instead of
"desktop".

Laura


Laura

From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

It's normal for Jaws to say folder view.
Try using windows m instead of windows d.

Hope this helps.

Pastor Gil

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:38 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws & desktop issues

Hello,

There are two issues I'm having regarding Jaws and my desktop which
I'll describe below ..
Using Windows 10, Jaws 18, MS Word 2016.

When I go to the desktop by pressing windows + m Jaws will always say
desktop folder view list view and the name of the icon that's
highlighted .. No
problems with this.

When I go to the desktop by pressing windows + d I get a variation of
what Jaws tells me:
*Sometimes it only says the name of the icon that's highlighted (it
does not say desktop or anything else, just the name of the icon)
*Sometimes it says "folder view list view" and the name of the icon
that's highlighted (but not desktop or
anything else)
*Sometimes it says desktop 1 and something about shell something or
another .. This one doesn't happen as often as the other things Jaws
says when I go to the desktop which is why I don't have exactly
what Jaws says.

There seems to be no rhyme or reason and I never know which one of
these Jaws is going to say when I go to the desktop by pressing Windows
+d.

The other issue is that no matter which way I go to the desktop, when I
press insert + t Jaws always says "documents" .. This happens no matter
what icon
is highlighted.

Does anybody have any suggestions or answers as to why these things are
occurring? .. Thank you for any
help.

Laura



Re: Looking for participants for user research

Mich Verrier
 

Hi I would be interested in pertisipating i use jaws on windows 10 and voice oer on my eye phone. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
 

From: george b
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for participants for user research
 

I use jaws and voice over

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of elodie@...
Sent: August 3, 2017 6:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Looking for participants for user research

 

Hello everyone,

I am doing user research for a client and we are looking for participants who use assistive technologies : 

JAWS, VoiceOver on mobile, NVDA with Firefox, Dragon, and screen magnifiers Supernova and/or ZoomText.

Contact me if you would be interested in participating in this experience or if you would like more info.

Thank you for considering

Elodie


Re: Outlook with Win10

 

Howard,

As Alan said, Outlook the application is part of the Office suite, I haven't seen it as a stand-alone purchase for Windows, but that doesn't mean it isn't available. If you have no need for any of the other Office applications (Primarily Word and Excel), but the suite also includes Powerpoint, Publisher (inaccessible), the Access database, OneNote and more then you might want to consider a free email client like Thunderbird. I find that the Office 365 subscriptions offered by Microsoft are the way to go. For $99 a year you get Office 365 Home which allows you to download and install the full Office 2016 suite on up to 5 computers so if you have family who use it this can all be under this subscription. The subscription also includes 1 TB of OneDrive storage and 60 mintes of Skype calling to landlines and mobiles to many countries around the world. If you buy 1 Tb of Dropbox storage alone it is I think that much so I think the Office 365 subscription is a great deal.
I think there is also an individual subscription for $59.99 a year which gives you all the same as above but just for 1 user/1 computer.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook with Win10

Outlook comes with the Microsoft Office Suite.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook with Win10

Hi anybody,

Just kind of wondering: Is this Outlook that lots of folks are using an application or client local to your computer or is it a web-based on-line mail system? Where can I find out more about it and how to set it up?

Thanks lots.

Howard