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Re: Change pronunciation question

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That is the way I do it too.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 5:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Change pronunciation question

Hello Shannon,

Place the cursor on the offending letters

Press insert D for dictionary manager.

Press the add button.

Tab to replacement word, and type in what you want to hear.

Tab to okay button

Press alt F 4 to close out the dialog, and save your
changes.

Cheers



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: August 7, 2017 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Change pronunciation question



Good afternoon,



I have a Pronunciation question



How do I find the place to change the way jaws says 5gl?

I am hearing Gigga Liters.

It is going to have been predefined somewhere to say that
when it incounters 5gl or 5GL

I would prefer to haear just GL or gl.

I am hearing it here in Outlook 2010 and also in Excel 2010.



Thanks

Shannon


Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list

Richard Turner
 

Thanks,
I may give that a try. I know I need to call tech support next, but ran out of time this morning.
I will keep this address handy.
I am about to give up on OpenBook entirely if they cannot fix this issue since there has been little effort to update it.
I will start using the Seeing AI app on my iPhone.
Later,
Richard

On Aug 7, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
The Openbook users list that has been around for years has not been properly
moderated in several years. No one has been minding the group so no new
members have been added. I, and others that I know, have tried several times
unsuccessfully to join and our attempts have always timed out without anyone
acting on our join requests. However, there is another one that has only
been around for about two years and is on groups.io so it is rather small
and the traffic is light. But at least it accepts members. And when someone
posts there is usually a response.
Openbook+subscribe@groups.io
Is the subscribe address if I am not mistaken.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the
Openbook users list


I am not sure it is an active list as I still have heard nothing from it. I
went to Freedom Scientific's page and searched for lists and found it. I'll
ask tech support when I call them if one exists.
Richard


On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

How do you sign up for the Open Book users list?









Re: Speaking numbers.

Mario
 

Shannon, press insert+numrow 6 (that's the 6 above the letters) and
press control+shift+d to load the default settings.
type (search for) n u m b.
after a few seconds, you should get 4 settings that involve processing
number announcement.
arrow down to Number and press the spacebar until JAWS says
ProcessingControlled By Synthesizer.
press enter and enter again.
you should now have the numbers announced as you like.
if not, there are some other settings to check.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@bartchroofing.com]
Sent: Monday, Aug 7, 2017 4:51 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Speaking numbers.

Good afternoon again all,

I hope you all are going to help me get numbers to read the way I was used
to hearing them.

Can I have jaws say 317902 as three hundred seventeen thousand nine hundred
two along with being able to hear 1975 as nineteen seventy five?

I can't figure out the right configuration of the settings to allow this.

I was using Eloquence Read before with Window Eyes, and the jaws eloquence
Read doesn't want to say the numbers that way.

I tried to switch to the vocalizer voices but I am not getting Samantha to
read those numbers the way I want either.

Is there a way to do this?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Change pronunciation question

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Shannon,

Place the cursor on the offending letters

Press insert D for dictionary manager.

Press the add button.

Tab to replacement word, and type in what you want to hear.

Tab to okay button

Press alt F 4 to close out the dialog, and save your changes.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: August 7, 2017 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Change pronunciation question

 

Good afternoon,

 

I have a Pronunciation question

 

How do I find the place to change the way jaws says 5gl?

I am hearing Gigga Liters.

It is going to have been predefined somewhere to say that when it incounters 5gl or 5GL

I would prefer to haear just GL or gl.

I am hearing it here in Outlook 2010 and also in Excel 2010.

 

Thanks

Shannon

 


Re: Speaking numbers.

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Shannon,

It is in the setting center.

Press insert F 2

Press S until Setting Center comes up

Type number, “Number and date processing”, should come up, and then you can arrow around to change things as you like.

Cheers Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: August 7, 2017 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Speaking numbers.

 

Good afternoon again all,

I hope you all are going to help me get numbers to read the way I was used to hearing them.

Can I have jaws say 317902 as  three hundred seventeen thousand nine hundred two along with being able to hear 1975 as nineteen seventy five?

I can’t figure out the right configuration of the settings to allow this.

I was using Eloquence Read before with Window Eyes, and the jaws eloquence Read doesn’t want to say the numbers that way.

I tried to switch to the vocalizer voices but I am not getting Samantha to read those numbers the way I want either.

Is there a way to do this?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Change pronunciation question

Mario
 

Shannon, you'd need to open the default pronounciation dictionary and
check for the entry for gl or GL:

press insert+d and then control+shift+d.
next press tab to a list of entries.
as you arrow down, you might find folders of different languages, such
as French, English, Spanish, etc., which may have subfolders and/or
entries related to that language (press right arrow to open or left
arrow to close), but if you don't have other language folders...
using the up or down arrow, find the entry you want to delete and tab
twice to and spacebar on the delete button.
press spacebar on the yes button to confirm that you're sure about
deleting the entry.
repeat the steps if you have other entries to get rid of.
when you're finished, either press control+s and alt+f4 or just alt+f4
and spacebar on the yes button to save the modifications.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@bartchroofing.com]
Sent: Monday, Aug 7, 2017 4:41 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Change pronunciation question

Good afternoon,



I have a Pronunciation question



How do I find the place to change the way jaws says 5gl?

I am hearing Gigga Liters.

It is going to have been predefined somewhere to say that when it incounters
5gl or 5GL

I would prefer to haear just GL or gl.

I am hearing it here in Outlook 2010 and also in Excel 2010.



Thanks

Shannon


Speaking numbers.

Shannon
 

Good afternoon again all,

I hope you all are going to help me get numbers to read the way I was used to hearing them.

Can I have jaws say 317902 as  three hundred seventeen thousand nine hundred two along with being able to hear 1975 as nineteen seventy five?

I can’t figure out the right configuration of the settings to allow this.

I was using Eloquence Read before with Window Eyes, and the jaws eloquence Read doesn’t want to say the numbers that way.

I tried to switch to the vocalizer voices but I am not getting Samantha to read those numbers the way I want either.

Is there a way to do this?

Thanks

Shannon


Change pronunciation question

Shannon
 

Good afternoon,

 

I have a Pronunciation question

 

How do I find the place to change the way jaws says 5gl?

I am hearing Gigga Liters.

It is going to have been predefined somewhere to say that when it incounters 5gl or 5GL

I would prefer to haear just GL or gl.

I am hearing it here in Outlook 2010 and also in Excel 2010.

 

Thanks

Shannon

 


Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Again, Paul,
 
A quick note, don't use the updating option that's in Jaws!  Allow it to notify you, but that's it!  Always go to the FS VFO website,, download the build you want, & run / install it from your computer.  Also, whenever there's a Jaws update I always post the direct download links with what's new for the new build.  FS VFO also recommends not using the Jaws update option as well, they recommend downloading from their website & installing from your computer.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS

Replying to my own post here... I finally found the "Window Color and Appearance" dialog, which allows me to set the
font, size, bold, italics, etc, of icons and menus. This will allow my wife to set it to whatever she wants.

But I still believe the fact that a JAWS install changes these settings at all is an issue for Freedom Scientific to
investigate and resolve.
   -Paul


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi all. The latest JAWS 18.0.4104 seems to have affected the system font in Windows 7.
>
> Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some
> system admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest
> 18.0.4104.
> After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name
> under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I
> had her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system.
>
> Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual
vision
> that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And they
look
> fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change.
>
> She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same
size.
> But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are
harder
> for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine them
> closely.
>
> I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and
> the latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not
> immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance.
>
> Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But
> perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I
> might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>    -Paul
>
>
>
>





Re: accessible password manager

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

What about "Keeper" that MS put in my start menu?

On 8/7/2017 12:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Password Safe and its ports for iOS and Android.
--
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If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker



Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Paul,
 
To my knowledge no one from FS / VFO is a member of this list.  But, nowhere does it say that you have to be totally blind to use Jaws!  Cll FS / VFO tech support, & explain that you are low vision, that updating to the latest J18 build screwed up your settings, & ask them if they can show you how to get your settings back to being brighter or however else you need them.  Don't tell them anything about your wife's computer just act like they're both your computers.  I don't advocate lying, but sometimes they just don't need to know everything.  LOL 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Martz
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 10:20 AM
Subject: Fonts change in latest JAWS

Hi all. The latest JAWS 18.0.4104 seems to have affected the system font in Windows 7.

Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some system
admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest 18.0.4104.
After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name
under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I had
her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system.

Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual
vision that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And
they look fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change.

She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same size.
But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are
harder for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine
them closely.

I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and the
latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not
immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance.

Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But
perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I
might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state.

Thanks for any help.
   -Paul





Re: accessible password manager

 

Password Safe and its ports for iOS and Android.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

 
If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon will make you furious; if you do like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't mind.     ~ Irving Becker


Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Hi,
The Openbook users list that has been around for years has not been properly
moderated in several years. No one has been minding the group so no new
members have been added. I, and others that I know, have tried several times
unsuccessfully to join and our attempts have always timed out without anyone
acting on our join requests. However, there is another one that has only
been around for about two years and is on groups.io so it is rather small
and the traffic is light. But at least it accepts members. And when someone
posts there is usually a response.
Openbook+subscribe@groups.io
Is the subscribe address if I am not mistaken.
Hope that helps.
Merv

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the
Openbook users list


I am not sure it is an active list as I still have heard nothing from it. I
went to Freedom Scientific's page and searched for lists and found it. I'll
ask tech support when I call them if one exists.
Richard


On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

How do you sign up for the Open Book users list?




Re: Fonts change in latest JAWS

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Replying to my own post here... I finally found the "Window Color and Appearance" dialog, which allows me to set the
font, size, bold, italics, etc, of icons and menus. This will allow my wife to set it to whatever she wants.

But I still believe the fact that a JAWS install changes these settings at all is an issue for Freedom Scientific to
investigate and resolve.
-Paul

-----Original Message-----

Hi all. The latest JAWS 18.0.4104 seems to have affected the system font in Windows 7.

Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some
system admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest
18.0.4104.
After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name
under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I
had her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system.

Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual
vision
that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And they
look
fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change.

She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same
size.
But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are
harder
for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine them
closely.

I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and
the latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not
immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance.

Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But
perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I
might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state.

Thanks for any help.
-Paul




Fonts change in latest JAWS

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Hi all. The latest JAWS 18.0.4104 seems to have affected the system font in Windows 7.

Let me explain. My sighted wife and I both have Win7 PCs, but we have JAWS on both PCs in case I need to do some system
admin stuff on her computer. Recently, I was on her computer, and JAWS prompted me to upgrade to the latest 18.0.4104.
After doing so, my wife sat down to use her computer, and immediately reported a change in the fonts - the icon name
under desktop icons, the names of menus in the menu bars of applications such as MS Word and Google Chrome, etc. I had
her come over and look at my PC, already on 18.0.4104, and she reported the same issue on my system.

Of course, with my crappy eyesight, I didn't notice any font change on either system. But I do have enough residual
vision that I can use ZoomText (from AISquared) to enlarge the fonts so that they are large enough for me to see. And
they look fine to me, single-pixel width fonts as I would expect. Yet my (non-technical) wife complains of a change.

She says they look "lower resolution". She says the font size hasn't changed, the icon and menu names are the same size.
But she says the letters seems to be drawn thinner, they aren't as bold as they used to be, and as a result, they are
harder for her to see. Well, I am low vision, as I said, and my fonts have always appeared this way to me when I examine
them closely.

I'm left with the conclusion that my wife had somehow done some non-default customization to her system fonts, and the
latest JAWS somehow undid this customization. Unfortunately, just poking around in system settings, I did not
immediately find any controls that would affect system font appearance.

Okay, I know most JFW list readers are blind, so I'm not expecting to find Windows font experts on this list. LOL. But
perhaps someone at Freedom Scientific will read this post, and perhaps they know something about the issue, and how I
might go about restoring my wife's computer fonts to their previous state.

Thanks for any help.
-Paul


Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list

Alan Robbins
 

Richard,
It is possible that it is in active list, however, I unsubscribe from about a year ago simply due to their never being any activity. Also, from my recollection, it is a Yahoo-based groups and with some other Yahoo! Groups lately I have had difficulty subscribing to and unsubscribing from using their links.

On Aug 7, 2017, at 7:45 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:


I am not sure it is an active list as I still have heard nothing from it. I went to Freedom Scientific's page and searched for lists and found it. I'll ask tech support when I call them if one exists.
Richard


On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

How do you sign up for the Open Book users list?





Re: accessible password manager

Jonas Voll
 

Keepass, & Tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqS9MVEN4QY&t=26s

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible password manager

 

Keeping it in a text file or even a password protected Excel or file on the computer may be OK if you are just at home where you can access the information and if you only want to access it on your computer.

For me this wouldn’t work because I need not just passwords but as Pablo said other important information accessible at home as well as at my business on several computers and also want this access on my iPhone when I’m out and about.

I hear a lot of people use One Password or Lastpass, I started out with Roboform a very long time ago and it continues to work well for me. The iOS app is also very accessible and you can store passwords, bookmarks (which are not password protected), SafeNotes which can be long notes and it even has a contact section which I don’t use.

The Roboform Everywhere service costs a bit, but it’s not expensive, maybe $20 a year or so and a while back they had a special where I think it was $75 for 7 or 8 years.

Many website you can open right from Roboform, if, for example, I want to log in to my online banking I press Insert+F11 to bring up the system tray icons, type
R” for Roboform and press enter, this opens a context menu, I arrow to logins, then right arrow to open it, type “S” which takes me to “Scotia Bank” and when I press enter I enter my Master password, then the passcard opens the website, automatically fills the fields with my bank card number and password and submits the form.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 4:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible password manager

 

I have heard of this but never really read up on it too much as I’ve been doing my method for so many years, I cannot imagine the work in migrating to this process. Did you begin with this or go to it after some time?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 7:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible password manager

 

I use 1password.

Fully Jaws acessible. Same with their iOS app if you use that platform. They have an android app, but as I don’t use android, I couldn’t tell you as far as accessibility.

I pay for the family plan as I have my wife and parents and sister on it as well. Everyone’s happy with it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accessible password manager

 

Hi all,

Any suggestion about a good password manager. I don’t know if this kind of software is called like that, but I am looking a software that allow me to store users names, passwords, but also other information like account numbers, credit card numbers. So should be something that manage passwords, but also other  kind of personal information.

Thanks for any advice regarding this software.

 

 
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Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list

Richard Turner
 

I am not sure it is an active list as I still have heard nothing from it. I went to Freedom Scientific's page and searched for lists and found it. I'll ask tech support when I call them if one exists.
Richard

On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

How do you sign up for the Open Book users list?




Jaws and MS Edge

Don H
 

When is Jaws supposed to start fully supporting Microsoft Edge?

Thanks


Re: An OpenBook question while I wait to get accepted on the Openbook users list

Don H
 

How do you sign up for the Open Book users list?