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Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Cristóbal
 

Another option people may consider is using the enterprise version of
Firefox. It updates less frequently. In fact, I may consider doing this if I
find out some of my most used add-ons aren't compatible with V-57. I'm
currently on V-55.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Thanks, Bill.

I just checked, and my Firefox 52 is set to never check for updates.

In light of the new problems people are having, I think I'm going to leave
it this way for now.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi, Tom. We are talking about Firefox version 56.0.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Bill and all.

I'm sorry for coming in late to this thread, but what Firefox version are we
talking about here?

I currently have version 52.0 32-bit installed.

One very anoying problem I have with this version is that Jaws keeps loosing
focus, and I constantly have to hit my tab key to re-gain focus.

I also used to have more frequent Firefox crashes, but that issue seems to
have settled down somewhat.

Again, I'm interested in the problematic version discussed in this thread.
I think I've turned Firefox updates off, but will check to be sure.

All of these issues with Firefox are making me want to try Google Chrome to
see if it's any better, but I haven't taken the leap yet.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

What you do is the following.

1. Open Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus T for Tools.
3. Press O for Options.
4. Tab until you hear, Find an Option.
5. In the edit box, type Update.
6. Tab until you hear how Firefox is currently updating. It will probably
say, Automatically Install Updates.
7. Down Arrow to, Never Check For Updates. It will say (not recommended) 8.
Tab to, Use a background service to Install Updates, and make sure this is
unchecked.
9. Press CONTROL plus W to close the Options window.

Firefox will now no longer update itself.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: Screen recording/capturing.

Natalia Voegele
 

Hi Ron and Ed,

Thank you both very much for your suggestions. I looked at Zoom and it doesn't seem to be exactly what I need. It seems it is for recording meetings. I'm not needing to record meetings, at this point, just the video of the screen I am viewing, plus audio of Jaws. Additionally, I need to be able to record myself talking, so I may talk about bugs, on the page. However, I will definitely keep it in mind, if I ever need to record meetings, it may be a great solution. And Ron, I have not taken a look at Debut as of yet, but I will do so now. Thank you so much!
Natalia


Re: say cap

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

One time I set mine to say caps, drove me nuts. I have my caps set on 40 or 50 percent, forget, but pretty high pitched. I really can tell when something is or is not capitalized. I guess it could be set as high as, say 60 percent or more.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 6:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: say cap

Hi Mark,
Try the following, but the steps below aren't complete because of the various options you get after making changes to a scheme

1. Open the Settings Center with, Jaws / Insert key + 6, on the number row, & press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all applications 2. Arrow down to Speech & Sound Schemes, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Modify Schemes...., & press the spacebar to open. Don't press enter here! Pressing enter will close the Settings Center. Also make note of what scheme is highlighted as the default scheme.
4. Tab to, edit selected scheme button, & press the spacebar.
5. You should be on the, General Page / tab so, control + tab to the Misc.
page / tab, & tab 1 time into the list of options.
Arrow down to, Cap Speak text Using SingleCapVoice,
tab 1 time to a list of choices, arrow up / down to, Speak Item checked.
Now you'll have to choose what you want to do, modify, save, create new....
by tabbing through the dialogues & making your choices.
It might take some experimentation because you'll need to Apply / Okay a few times in order to make this the default or whatever you choose to do with this altered / changed scheme. I'm sorry I can't make these steps more complete, but my personal choices could be different than your own, so that's why I said it will take some experimentation.

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Mark Furness <mailto:flintman57@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:12 PM
Subject: say cap


I need to know how to make jaws 2018 say “cap” when reading a document that has capital letters. I am Having trouble hearing pitch change



Thank you for your help!!!

Mark F.



Mercy without repentance is license


Re: say cap

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Mark,
Try the following, but the steps below aren't complete because of the
various options you get after making changes to a scheme
 
1. Open the Settings Center with, Jaws / Insert key + 6, on the number row,
& press, control, shift + D, to open Settings Center default all
applications
2. Arrow down to Speech & Sound Schemes, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Modify Schemes...., & press the spacebar to open.  Don't
press enter here!  Pressing enter will close the Settings Center.  Also make
note of what scheme is highlighted as the default scheme.
4. Tab to, edit selected scheme button, & press the spacebar.
5. You should be on the, General Page / tab so, control + tab to the Misc.
page / tab, & tab 1 time into the list of options.
 Arrow down to, Cap             Speak text           Using SingleCapVoice,
tab 1 time to a list of choices, arrow up / down to, Speak Item checked.
Now you'll have to choose what you want to do, modify, save, create new....
by tabbing through the dialogues & making your choices.
It might take some experimentation because you'll need to Apply / Okay a few
times in order to make this the default or whatever you choose to do with
this altered / changed scheme.  I'm sorry I can't make these steps more
complete, but my personal choices could be different than your own, so
that's why I said it will take some experimentation.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:12 PM
Subject: say cap

I need to know how to make jaws 2018 say “cap” when reading a document that has capital letters. I am Having trouble hearing pitch change

 

Thank you for your help!!!

Mark F.

 

Mercy without repentance is license

 


Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Bill.

I just checked, and my Firefox 52 is set to never check for updates.

In light of the new problems people are having, I think I'm going to leave
it this way for now.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi, Tom. We are talking about Firefox version 56.0.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Bill and all.

I'm sorry for coming in late to this thread, but what Firefox version are we
talking about here?

I currently have version 52.0 32-bit installed.

One very anoying problem I have with this version is that Jaws keeps loosing
focus, and I constantly have to hit my tab key to re-gain focus.

I also used to have more frequent Firefox crashes, but that issue seems to
have settled down somewhat.

Again, I'm interested in the problematic version discussed in this thread.
I think I've turned Firefox updates off, but will check to be sure.

All of these issues with Firefox are making me want to try Google Chrome to
see if it's any better, but I haven't taken the leap yet.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

What you do is the following.

1. Open Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus T for Tools.
3. Press O for Options.
4. Tab until you hear, Find an Option.
5. In the edit box, type Update.
6. Tab until you hear how Firefox is currently updating. It will probably
say, Automatically Install Updates.
7. Down Arrow to, Never Check For Updates. It will say (not recommended) 8.
Tab to, Use a background service to Install Updates, and make sure this is
unchecked.
9. Press CONTROL plus W to close the Options window.

Firefox will now no longer update itself.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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say cap

Mark Furness
 

I need to know how to make jaws 2018 say “cap” when reading a document that has capital letters. I am Having trouble hearing pitch change

 

Thank you for your help!!!

Mark F.

 

Mercy without repentance is license

 


Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. We are talking about Firefox version 56.0.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Bill and all.

I'm sorry for coming in late to this thread, but what Firefox version are we
talking about here?

I currently have version 52.0 32-bit installed.

One very anoying problem I have with this version is that Jaws keeps loosing
focus, and I constantly have to hit my tab key to re-gain focus.

I also used to have more frequent Firefox crashes, but that issue seems to
have settled down somewhat.

Again, I'm interested in the problematic version discussed in this thread.
I think I've turned Firefox updates off, but will check to be sure.

All of these issues with Firefox are making me want to try Google Chrome to
see if it's any better, but I haven't taken the leap yet.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

What you do is the following.

1. Open Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus T for Tools.
3. Press O for Options.
4. Tab until you hear, Find an Option.
5. In the edit box, type Update.
6. Tab until you hear how Firefox is currently updating. It will probably
say, Automatically Install Updates.
7. Down Arrow to, Never Check For Updates. It will say (not recommended) 8.
Tab to, Use a background service to Install Updates, and make sure this is
unchecked.
9. Press CONTROL plus W to close the Options window.

Firefox will now no longer update itself.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Tom Behler
 

Bill and all.

I'm sorry for coming in late to this thread, but what Firefox version are we
talking about here?

I currently have version 52.0 32-bit installed.

One very anoying problem I have with this version is that Jaws keeps loosing
focus, and I constantly have to hit my tab key to re-gain focus.

I also used to have more frequent Firefox crashes, but that issue seems to
have settled down somewhat.

Again, I'm interested in the problematic version discussed in this thread.
I think I've turned Firefox updates off, but will check to be sure.

All of these issues with Firefox are making me want to try Google Chrome to
see if it's any better, but I haven't taken the leap yet.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

What you do is the following.

1. Open Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus T for Tools.
3. Press O for Options.
4. Tab until you hear, Find an Option.
5. In the edit box, type Update.
6. Tab until you hear how Firefox is currently updating. It will probably
say, Automatically Install Updates.
7. Down Arrow to, Never Check For Updates. It will say (not recommended) 8.
Tab to, Use a background service to Install Updates, and make sure this is
unchecked.
9. Press CONTROL plus W to close the Options window.

Firefox will now no longer update itself.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

What you do is the following.

1. Open Firefox.
2. Press ALT plus T for Tools.
3. Press O for Options.
4. Tab until you hear, Find an Option.
5. In the edit box, type Update.
6. Tab until you hear how Firefox is currently updating. It will probably
say, Automatically Install Updates.
7. Down Arrow to, Never Check For Updates. It will say (not recommended)
8. Tab to, Use a background service to Install Updates, and make sure this
is unchecked.
9. Press CONTROL plus W to close the Options window.

Firefox will now no longer update itself.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Not in the latest version. There isnt an advanced anymore. I wont be keekeeping this version...

On 9/30/2017 11:58 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
In Firefox, general, options and then advanced. It's in one of those tabs. I
never have mine to set to automatically update for reasons like this.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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From: jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Cristóbal
 

In Firefox, general, options and then advanced. It's in one of those tabs. I
never have mine to set to automatically update for reasons like this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: "New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I went to see if I could find the answer for you in FF. Well what I found is that FF Has decided to make itself the default browser and the box for check to see if FF is your default browser is greyed out. Jaws says "unavailable".
I didnt see an option to stop auto updates. didn't look too hard as it is getting uninstalled if this is the new way of doing things for FF.

On 9/30/2017 11:45 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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"New" Firefox incompatibility with "Old" JAWS

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

According to the below, new versions of Firefox won't work with older
versions of JFW. So, how do you tell Firefox *not* to update itself?

Thanks,
Richard

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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:24 AM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

Firefox 57 also named "quantum" is getting a new rendering engine which
replaces Gecko. It is supposed to be twice as fast.
Apparently this will also have screen reader implications I assume
especially where they do not use the accessibility API and instead access
the page directly... Time will tell but when changing engines, it will not
surprise me to see a lot of stuff break.
Travis


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:53 PM
To: jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: [jawsscripts] Firefox incompatibility with JAWS?

According to the latest JAWS release notes, most of JAWS versions will stop
working with Firefox 57 and newer. I had not seen any reference to this
before. Can anybody provide details? Are there any scripting implications
for this? I just started getting a Get*XML set of routines working with an
Internet application I am forced to deal with on a daily basis.
TIA

Jonathan


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Re: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

Jason White
 

Did you run the SMA updating procedure on the laptop? From memory (and it’s quite a while since I’ve done this – once only), I had to invoke the Update Authorization menu option in JAWS.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 12:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

 

No, Jaws 18 was the last of the previous SMA.

 

In November I purchased a new SMA. My desktop has shown 2 upgrades remaining since I purchased the SMA. .

My laptop still shows 0 upgrades left. It should show 2 remaining.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 9/30/2017 12:31 PM, Kevin Hourigan wrote:

Do not the SMA’s come in 2 year packages? Should you not have 1 left in each?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: September 30, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

 

Hello, 

 

I always keep my 2 computers up to date with the latest versions of Win 10 and Jaws 18.

 

A year ago, and after installing Jaws 18, on both computers, I purchased the SMA. Only my primary (desktop) shows that the SMA upgrades remaining is 2. My secondary (laptop) still shows the remaining upgrade count is 0.

 

I have always updated the primary computer first, whenever a new version of Jaws came out. The laptop was always updated after the desktop.Before Jaws 18, both computers had the same SMA upgrades remaining.

 

If the laptop shows that there is zero SMA upgrades remaining, what will happen when I install the new Jaws 2018 on my laptop?

 

Peter T.

 


Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Mario
 

except in my case, JAWS 16 does not announce the name of the document.
all it says is "document" when I press the control+tab.

I wonder if J18 does the same?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 30, 2017 12:43 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Mario is correct, Control+Tab which for me also works well with multiple
tabs in IE or Chrome. Here is the short description when you turn Jaws
key describer on:

Control+Tab
Brings the next Document Window into focus and says the window that has
just gained focus.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Rahul, I found that after opening both PDF docs in Reader DC, pressing
control+tab switches from doc a to doc b, to doc a, etc. JAWS may not
announce it, but pressing the up arrow tells me what doc it is, and I
assume insert+t will reflect which doc you've switched to.
and back
hth
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rahul Bajaj [mailto:rahul.bajaj1038@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 30, 2017 5:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Hi Everyone,

Recently, I have been facing a strange problem. I am unable to read
multiple PDF documents at one time which is often what I am required to
do for work. Basically, imagine that I have opened document A in Adobe
Reader and then open document b. document a is just not accessible when
I press alt-tab to go from one document to the other.
In order to view document a, I have to close document b.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this could be happening and what I
may be able to do to fix this?

Best,
Rahul



.


Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I think control tab instead of alt tab is for child windows, which the second PDF would be.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 30, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Mario is correct, Control+Tab which for me also works well with multiple tabs in IE or Chrome. Here is the short description when you turn Jaws key describer on:

Control+Tab
Brings the next Document Window into focus and says the window that has just gained focus.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Rahul, I found that after opening both PDF docs in Reader DC, pressing
control+tab switches from doc a to doc b, to doc a, etc. JAWS may not
announce it, but pressing the up arrow tells me what doc it is, and I assume insert+t will reflect which doc you've switched to.
and back
hth
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rahul Bajaj [mailto:rahul.bajaj1038@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 30, 2017 5:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Hi Everyone,

Recently, I have been facing a strange problem. I am unable to read multiple PDF documents at one time which is often what I am required to do for work. Basically, imagine that I have opened document A in Adobe Reader and then open document b. document a is just not accessible when I press alt-tab to go from one document to the other.
In order to view document a, I have to close document b.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this could be happening and what I may be able to do to fix this?

Best,
Rahul



.


Re: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

Richard Turner
 

Have you called FS?

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

 

No, Jaws 18 was the last of the previous SMA.

 

In November I purchased a new SMA. My desktop has shown 2 upgrades remaining since I purchased the SMA. .

My laptop still shows 0 upgrades left. It should show 2 remaining.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 9/30/2017 12:31 PM, Kevin Hourigan wrote:

Do not the SMA’s come in 2 year packages? Should you not have 1 left in each?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: September 30, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

 

Hello, 

 

I always keep my 2 computers up to date with the latest versions of Win 10 and Jaws 18.

 

A year ago, and after installing Jaws 18, on both computers, I purchased the SMA. Only my primary (desktop) shows that the SMA upgrades remaining is 2. My secondary (laptop) still shows the remaining upgrade count is 0.

 

I have always updated the primary computer first, whenever a new version of Jaws came out. The laptop was always updated after the desktop.Before Jaws 18, both computers had the same SMA upgrades remaining.

 

If the laptop shows that there is zero SMA upgrades remaining, what will happen when I install the new Jaws 2018 on my laptop?

 

Peter T.

 


Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

 

Mario is correct, Control+Tab which for me also works well with multiple tabs in IE or Chrome. Here is the short description when you turn Jaws key describer on:

Control+Tab
Brings the next Document Window into focus and says the window that has just gained focus.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Rahul, I found that after opening both PDF docs in Reader DC, pressing
control+tab switches from doc a to doc b, to doc a, etc. JAWS may not
announce it, but pressing the up arrow tells me what doc it is, and I assume insert+t will reflect which doc you've switched to.
and back
hth
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rahul Bajaj [mailto:rahul.bajaj1038@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 30, 2017 5:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Only one PDF document can be viewed at a time

Hi Everyone,

Recently, I have been facing a strange problem. I am unable to read multiple PDF documents at one time which is often what I am required to do for work. Basically, imagine that I have opened document A in Adobe Reader and then open document b. document a is just not accessible when I press alt-tab to go from one document to the other.
In order to view document a, I have to close document b.
Does anyone have any ideas as to why this could be happening and what I may be able to do to fix this?

Best,
Rahul



.


Re: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

Peter Tesar
 

No, Jaws 18 was the last of the previous SMA.


In November I purchased a new SMA. My desktop has shown 2 upgrades remaining since I purchased the SMA. .

My laptop still shows 0 upgrades left. It should show 2 remaining.


Peter T.



On 9/30/2017 12:31 PM, Kevin Hourigan wrote:

Do not the SMA’s come in 2 year packages? Should you not have 1 left in each?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: September 30, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

 

Hello, 

 

I always keep my 2 computers up to date with the latest versions of Win 10 and Jaws 18.

 

A year ago, and after installing Jaws 18, on both computers, I purchased the SMA. Only my primary (desktop) shows that the SMA upgrades remaining is 2. My secondary (laptop) still shows the remaining upgrade count is 0.

 

I have always updated the primary computer first, whenever a new version of Jaws came out. The laptop was always updated after the desktop.Before Jaws 18, both computers had the same SMA upgrades remaining.

 

If the laptop shows that there is zero SMA upgrades remaining, what will happen when I install the new Jaws 2018 on my laptop?

 

Peter T.



Re: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Do not the SMA’s come in 2 year packages? Should you not have 1 left in each?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: September 30, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Since updating to JAWS 18, my 2nd computer always shows the SMA count = is 0

 

Hello, 

 

I always keep my 2 computers up to date with the latest versions of Win 10 and Jaws 18.

 

A year ago, and after installing Jaws 18, on both computers, I purchased the SMA. Only my primary (desktop) shows that the SMA upgrades remaining is 2. My secondary (laptop) still shows the remaining upgrade count is 0.

 

I have always updated the primary computer first, whenever a new version of Jaws came out. The laptop was always updated after the desktop.Before Jaws 18, both computers had the same SMA upgrades remaining.

 

If the laptop shows that there is zero SMA upgrades remaining, what will happen when I install the new Jaws 2018 on my laptop?

 

Peter T.