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Re: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

Paul Sandoval
 

Ashleigh,

You can try to maximize with windows up arrow.
Good luck.
Paul

On Aug 21, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...> wrote:

No. It’s restored, and I can’t seem to maximize with alt space and x. Any other ideas?
Ashleigh Piccinino
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Dave...
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?
 
Is your window maximized?
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 06:13
Subject: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?
 

Hello,
     I just linked a couple inboxes yesterday, but when I go to move stuff, I only hear JAWS report 8 of the 19 folders. I don't know how to view the rest of the folders when moving items, so what should I do? 
Thank you,
Ashleigh

 


Re: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

No. It’s restored, and I can’t seem to maximize with alt space and x. Any other ideas?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave...
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

 

Is your window maximized?

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 06:13

Subject: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

 

Hello,
     I just linked a couple inboxes yesterday, but when I go to move stuff, I only hear JAWS report 8 of the 19 folders. I don't know how to view the rest of the folders when moving items, so what should I do?
Thank you,
Ashleigh

 


Re: confirming UAC during Tandem

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Thanks for the info.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: confirming UAC during Tandem

The keystroke is control insert T.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2017, at 1:52 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <teos1@islands.vi> wrote:

Mario,

I don't think the connected computer can click the yes button. The local
computer user has to do it. That's what has occurred when I've tandem
another computer. I would guess it was a security issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: confirming UAC during Tandem

the subject asks the question. additionally, what's the keystroke?







Re: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

Dave...
 


Is your window maximized?
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 06:13
Subject: 19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

Hello,
     I just linked a couple inboxes yesterday, but when I go to move stuff, I only hear JAWS report 8 of the 19 folders. I don't know how to view the rest of the folders when moving items, so what should I do?
Thank you,
Ashleigh


19 folders total, but can only view about 8 of them when using linked inbox. What to do?

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,
     I just linked a couple inboxes yesterday, but when I go to move stuff, I only hear JAWS report 8 of the 19 folders. I don't know how to view the rest of the folders when moving items, so what should I do?
Thank you,
Ashleigh


Re: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

Shirley Tracy
 

Good morning Sameer:

As I posted yesterday, I am still having trouble with Excel, and it began last Thursday as well. I am also using a 64-bit desktop computer with Windows 7 as my operating system. I am using an original licenced version of Office 2016 and JAWS 18. I am waiting to read what others have done to fix the problem, but wanted you to know that you are definitely not alone in this issue. I’m thinking it’s a Microsoft issue and not a JAWS issue, but I plan to contact both companies as soon as I have an opportunity to do so later today.

I truly hope we get this worked out soon.

Shirley Tracy





---- Sameer <salatey@gmail.com> wrote:

=============

Dear List Members,

I have been facing problems in using Excel with JAWS since last Thursday (17/08/2017) & seek your kind assistance in solving them.

I am using a 64-bit desktop computer with Windows 7 as my operating system. I am using an original licenced version of Office 2016. Currently three versions of JAWS – 15, 17 & 18 are installed on my computer with JAWS 18 being my default version.

Until Thursday evening, everything was working fine without any problems. Since then, Excel hangs up whenever I try to work in it with either JAWS 17 or 18. If I work in Excel with JAWS 15, it works perfectly. All other Office 2016 products – Word, Powerpoint etc work properly irrespective of the JAWS version being used.

I have completely uninstalled all versions of JAWS including user settings & shared components but the problem continues after reinstallation of JAWS.

My computer engineer has verified that the Office 2016 software is properly installed & updated to the latest version. All Add-ins & unnecessary toolbars have been removed from Excel.

Kindly suggest how I can get Excel working properly with JAWS 17 & 18.

Thanking all in advance for any & all suggestions.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


Re: Cursor on web page

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Margaret,
 
Just to add to the tips Sieghard & others have given, below is from the Jaws help files:

PlaceMarkers

A PlaceMarker is a bookmark that you can easily add to a Web page, HTML, PDF, or Word document, or form to mark a location. This is useful when you want to return to commonly used areas on a Web page, important sections or paragraphs of an HTML document, or specific parts, such as required fields, of a complicated form. PlaceMarkers can be defined as temporary or permanent and can be anchored to text, elements of the current Web page, or to a Web site's domain. Multiple PlaceMarkers can be added to HTML or PDF documents, while only one can be added to a Word document.

The following describes how to add, rename, or delete PlaceMarkers. If you are not familiar with PlaceMarkers and need more information, refer to Important PlaceMarker Concepts. For additional PlaceMarker operation, refer to Advanced PlaceMarker Usage. For general information about using PlaceMarkers in a Word document, refer to Marking and Returning to a PlaceMarker in Word.

Adding a Temporary PlaceMarker

To quickly add a temporary PlaceMarker, do the following:

  1. Open a Web page, other HTML document, or Word document.
  2. Move the virtual cursor to the location on the page where you want to put the PlaceMarker.
  3. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K. A temporary PlaceMarker now appears on the page.

    You can always jump to it using any of the following Navigation Quick Keys: K, SHIFT+K, SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0, or CTRL+SHIFT+K. (The last keystroke opens the PlaceMarker List. Select Temporary from the list, and then choose the Move To button.)

Selecting Between the Temporary PlaceMarker and the Cursor Position

To select text between a temporary PlaceMarker and your current position in a Web page, HTML document, or Word document, do the following:

  1. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+k to set a temporary PlaceMarker.
  2. Navigate to another location on the Web page or document, then press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M. All text between the temporary PlaceMarker and your current cursor position is selected and ready to be copied to the Clipboard.

This method is often easier than using the SHIFT Key in conjunction with the ARROW keys when attempting to select large blocks of text.

Adding Permanent PlaceMarkers to Web Pages or HTML Documents

To add a PlaceMarker, do the following:

  1. Open a Web page or other HTML document.
  2. Move the virtual cursor to the location on the page where you want to put the PlaceMarker.
  3. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K and then ENTER.
    The Add PlaceMarker dialog box opens with focus in the Name edit field. It contains text that appears at the cursor location. If you want to change the PlaceMarker name, type a new name in this field; otherwise, press TAB to move to the next control.
  4. The Define for All Pages on Current Domain check box is cleared by default, which allows the PlaceMarker to be anchored only to the current Web page or HTML document. If you want to use this PlaceMarker so that it is anchored to all pages within the current domain instead, press SPACEBAR to select the check box. Press TAB to move to the next control.
  5. The Anchor to Text check box is cleared by default. Select this check box if you want to link the PlaceMarker with specific text, such as a heading, that appears on the page. This can be useful on frequently updated Web pages where text and elements tend to drift from their original position. When selected, the next control, Anchor Text edit field, automatically populates using the original text in the Name edit field. This guarantees that the PlaceMarker will always be associated with this text on the Web page.
  6. Press TAB to navigate to the OK button and press SPACEBAR to close the dialog box and save the PlaceMarker.

Renaming PlaceMarkers

To change the name of a PlaceMarker, do the following:

  1. Open the page containing the PlaceMarker you want to rename.
  2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to display a list of PlaceMarkers on this page.
  3. Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to select the PlaceMarker.
  4. Press SPACEBAR on the Change Name button or press ALT+C.
  5. Enter a new name for the PlaceMarker and then press SPACEBAR on the OK button.

Removing PlaceMarkers

To remove one or more PlaceMarkers, do the following:

  1. Open the page containing the PlaceMarker you want to delete.
  2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to display a list of all PlaceMarkers on the current page.
  3. Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to select a PlaceMarker.
  4. Press SPACEBAR on the Remove button or press ALT+R to delete the PlaceMarker.

Tip: If you want to delete all PlaceMarkers for this page, press SPACEBAR on the Remove All button or press ALT+L.

Important PlaceMarker Concepts

The following sections, PlaceMarker Keystrokes, Temporary versus Permanent PlaceMarkers, and URL versus Domain PlaceMarkers, are key to understanding PlaceMarkers with JAWS.

PlaceMarker Keystrokes for Web Pages, HTML Documents, or Forms

  • Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K to insert a temporary PlaceMarker.
  • Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M to select text between the temporary PlaceMarker and your current cursor position.
  • Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to open the PlaceMarker List dialog box to add a new PlaceMarker, rename or change existing PlaceMarker parameters, jump to PlaceMarkers, or delete PlaceMarkers.  
  • Press K to jump to the next PlaceMarker.
  • Press SHIFT+K to jump to the previous PlaceMarker.
  • Press number row keys 7 through 0 to hear the content of PlaceMarkers 1 through 4.
  • Press SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0 to jump to PlaceMarkers 1 through 4.
  • Press ALT+WINDOWS Key+K to speak all of the PlaceMarkers on a Web page or in an HTML document.

PlaceMarker Keystrokes for Word Documents

  • Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K to set a PlaceMarker at the current cursor position. Only one PlaceMarker can be set per Word document.
  • Press ALT+WINDOWS Key+K to return to the marker in a Word document.
  • Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M to select text or items from the marker to the current cursor position.

Temporary Versus Permanent PlaceMarkers

You can add a temporary PlaceMarker anywhere on a Web page by pressing CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K. This lets you easily mark a spot that you can return to later by pressing K. Only one temporary PlaceMarker may be set per Web page. If you later decide to move the temporary PlaceMarker to a different place on the Web page, just move the Virtual Cursor to that new location and press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K again.

If you want to make the temporary PlaceMarker permanent, press CTRL+SHIFT+K to open the PlaceMarker List dialog box and add it to the list, which lets you keep and maintain multiple PlaceMarkers on the Web page, HTML document, or form. The last location where you set a temporary PlaceMarker is saved until you move it again, or remove the PlaceMarker from the PlaceMarkers List dialog. You can browse to other Web pages, exit JAWS, even restart your computer, and your temporary and permanent PlaceMarkers are preserved.

URL Versus Domain PlaceMarkers

JAWS lets you assign PlaceMarkers to either the current Web address (the URL displayed in the Address bar) or domain (the overall Web site name). The URL (uniform resource locator) is the Web address displayed in the address bar. You can only use PlaceMarkers assigned to the current URL when you are visiting that page.

Individual Web pages are contained within a domain. The domain's name is usually the first portion of the page's Web address and ends with .com, .net, .org, .gov, .edu, or similar suffix. When you add a domain PlaceMarker to a Web page, you can use that PlaceMarker on any page within the current domain. Since many sites use a consistent design for all of their pages, the placement of links, graphics, buttons, and form fields is often similar. If this is the case, you can use a single domain PlaceMarker to navigate many other pages on the site.

For example, if a Web site has a Search box located at the top of each page, you can put a domain PlaceMarker there named "Search." You can then use this PlaceMarker to move to the Search box on any page in the domain, regardless of the URL.

Advanced PlaceMarker Usage

The following describes other ways to customize and display PlaceMarkers.

Sharing PlaceMarkers

You can use Settings Packager to share your PlaceMarkers for a Web site with other JAWS users. Settings Packager is a program that lets you save speech and sound schemes, PlaceMarkers, and personalized Web settings in a compressed .zip file that you can send in an e-mail message, post on a Web site, or copy to removable storage media. You can also use Settings Packager to import the settings contained in these .zip files into JAWS. To start Settings Packager, press INSERT+F2, select "Settings Packager," and press ENTER. For more information on using this program, open the Settings Packager Help menu and choose Help Topics.

To share your PlaceMarkers with other JAWS users without using Settings Packager:

  1. Open your JAWS user settings folder from the Start Menu, All Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Explore JAWS, Explore My Settings.
  2. Move to the PlaceMarkers folder and press ENTER.
  3. PlaceMarker information is stored in .PMI files. Locate the .PMI file with the same name as the page containing the PlaceMarkers you want to share.
  4. Copy this file and distribute it to other users. These users then need to copy the .PMI file on their PlaceMarkers folder by going to the Start Menu, All Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Explore JAWS, Explore My Settings and open the PlaceMarkers folder. The users can now navigate that HTML page with your PlaceMarkers.

Custom Page Summary

When you open an HTML page, the Custom Page Summary feature automatically lists each PlaceMarker on the page and its associated text. This lets you quickly review the text located near your PlaceMarkers so you can hear any changes or updates to those areas of the page. To enable or disable this feature, do the following:

  1. Open Settings Center (INSERT+F2) or Quick Settings (INSERT+V).
  2. In the Search edit box, type "PlaceMarker" without the quotes.
  3. Press DOWN ARROW to move to Custom PlaceMarker Page Summary in the filtered results of the tree view. (Note that for Web browsers, this option appears in both the Virtual Cursor Options group and the Personalized Web Settings group.)
  4. Press SPACEBAR to toggle through the following settings.
  • Select "Speak PlaceMarkers on Page Load" to have JAWS read the name of each PlaceMarker on the current page as well as the text that appears near the PlaceMarker's location.
  • Select "List PlaceMarkers in Results Viewer on Page Load" to have JAWS display the PlaceMarker information for the page in the Results Viewer. The Results Viewer provides a link with the name of the PlaceMarker and the text that appears near the PlaceMarker's location on the page. You can use the ARROW keys to move to a link and then press ENTER to move to that PlaceMarker.
  • Select "Do Nothing" to have JAWS provide a custom page summary.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

If you are on a web page and press Control+Shift+K to bring up the placemarker dialogue or manager or whatever you want to call it, you have an "Add" button to add a new place marker, if you already have existing ones they are listed and if you want to delete one just put focus on it and tab until you get to the "Remove" button or press Alt+R or you can also tab to "Remove All" or press Alt+V.
I apologize by the way for saying earlier that if you set a temporary placemarker and close the browser that placemarker would be deleted. I just noticed that this is not so, it stays, if you set another temporary placemarker the location is changed to the new location, but it does not seem to get automatically deleted.

Regards,
Sieghard.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Johnson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

I appreciate the e-mail about the placemarkers.  However, I am not sure how you ment to delete the permanent ones when you are  through with them.
Margaret

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hi Marilyn,

Yes, the Windows key is next to the left control key, it's the one which bring up your Windows start menu/search box.
Control+Windows Key+K as I said sets a "temporary" placemarker, if after you return to it you continue reading the web page and then set another placemarker at a different point using this key combination the first one is overwritten and the new location is marked. Also, if you exit whichever browser you use the placemarker is gone.
If you want to set permanent placemarkers you have to use the placemarker dialogue which you bring up with Control+Shift+K, then you can add a permanent placemarker by pressing Alt+A for "Add" or tab to "Add" and activate it. You can also remove existing placemarkers you have set. Typically any placemarkers you set here are specific to the website you are on, e.g. you could visit your banking website and set placemarkers for particular links, then go to a completely different website and set placemarkers there and each set of placemarkers only becomes relevant if you are on the correct website.
Placemarkers can be very useful and powerful just as Jaws Find can be (Insert+Control+f. Maybe I am reading a news article about something and somehow the site refreshes and I loose my place, if I remember one of the last words I read was "negotiations" I could just bring up Jaws Find, type in "negotiations" and chances are I am back exactly where I was before unless the word occurs several times, but in this case I can just press F3 each time I come to the word and it's not yet the place/context where I was before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place, then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas


































Re: Cursor on web page

 

If you are on a web page and press Control+Shift+K to bring up the placemarker dialogue or manager or whatever you want to call it, you have an "Add" button to add a new place marker, if you already have existing ones they are listed and if you want to delete one just put focus on it and tab until you get to the "Remove" button or press Alt+R or you can also tab to "Remove All" or press Alt+V.
I apologize by the way for saying earlier that if you set a temporary placemarker and close the browser that placemarker would be deleted. I just noticed that this is not so, it stays, if you set another temporary placemarker the location is changed to the new location, but it does not seem to get automatically deleted.

Regards,
Sieghard.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Johnson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

I appreciate the e-mail about the placemarkers. However, I am not sure how you ment to delete the permanent ones when you are through with them.
Margaret

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hi Marilyn,

Yes, the Windows key is next to the left control key, it's the one which bring up your Windows start menu/search box.
Control+Windows Key+K as I said sets a "temporary" placemarker, if after you return to it you continue reading the web page and then set another placemarker at a different point using this key combination the first one is overwritten and the new location is marked. Also, if you exit whichever browser you use the placemarker is gone.
If you want to set permanent placemarkers you have to use the placemarker dialogue which you bring up with Control+Shift+K, then you can add a permanent placemarker by pressing Alt+A for "Add" or tab to "Add" and activate it. You can also remove existing placemarkers you have set. Typically any placemarkers you set here are specific to the website you are on, e.g. you could visit your banking website and set placemarkers for particular links, then go to a completely different website and set placemarkers there and each set of placemarkers only becomes relevant if you are on the correct website.
Placemarkers can be very useful and powerful just as Jaws Find can be (Insert+Control+f. Maybe I am reading a news article about something and somehow the site refreshes and I loose my place, if I remember one of the last words I read was "negotiations" I could just bring up Jaws Find, type in "negotiations" and chances are I am back exactly where I was before unless the word occurs several times, but in this case I can just press F3 each time I come to the word and it's not yet the place/context where I was before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place, then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas


Re: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi everyone,

If you remember, I was suddenly having trouble with excel last week. I'm using JAWS 18, Windows 7, and Office 2016. I thought my problem was fixed when I removed and re-installed JAWS 18. I was wrong. It worked perfectly once, but the next time I tried it, the thing crashed again. I got the message "Due to an error, Excel will have to close." And it did. After thinking I had solved the problem, I find I'm no better off now. A friend told me it might be due to some Excel update. I'm not sure what to do next. I'll see what some of you have accomplished. Maybe I'll call Microsoft. I don't think it's a JAWS problem, because I backed up one of my excel files and put it (via a thumb drive) into an old computer (my old XP), and it worked fine. I honestly think it's something that has happened to Excel. Any other thoughts?

Shirley Tracy


Re: disconnecting from Tandem

James Malone
 

The only way to disconnect is to press either control plus insert plus T or press alt you in the Jaws window, arrow right then down to disconnect.
James

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: disconnecting from Tandem

as a follow up question, isn't either controler or remote user suppose to be able to disconnect by simply pressing the escape key? when I used Tandem to help setup Thunderbird for someone I know, and when I was finished, I asked him to press the escape but we remained connected.
when I pressed the escape after suspending the session, we remained connected.
nothing happened. we were both using JAWS 18. was this feature, pressing escape to disconnect removed in J18? anybody know?



-------- Original Message --------
From: HH. Smith Jr. [mailto:teos1@islands.vi]
Sent: Saturday, Aug 19, 2017 4:54 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: disconnecting from Tandem

Hi,
Anyone of the computers can do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: disconnecting from Tandem

when a Tandem session is over, do both sides have to disconnect, or is it sufficient that either the controler or clientone disconnect







.


Re: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

Pablo Morales
 

It is happening to a lot of jaws users around the world. Solution?

No idea, but It has been happening to me since weeks ago, more often using jaws 18. However I fixt this problem running narrator, open the task view, and shuting down jaws and all jaws components. Like this I don’t need to restart my computer.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

 

Hi Sameer,

 

This is similar to what I am experiencing. I think in my case this started last Monday or Tuesday. I know I used Excel and Outlook last week Saturday (August 12) because I use Excel and Outlook all the time throughout the day at my business. Then I can’t remember if it was Monday or Tuesday I opened one of my Excel files I work in almost every day, it has 3 summary sheets in the front and then a sheet for each day of the month where I record the sales figures from the zReport produced by my point of sale system. I opened the file and as usual pressed Control+Page Down to advance to the next sheet and Excel crashed, the message said the program was not responding and needed to close I think. I just thought it was one of these occasional crashes, I reopened the file and it happened again. I rebooted the computer and it kept on happening either when I changed sheets or even when I simply wanted to edit the content of a cell. I asked one of my sighted employees to take a look, we turned off Jaws and I could do everything without any issues. Interestingly enough the last Jaws 18 update was I think on July 11 and all I can think of is that maybe there was an Office update which broke something. Of course to make this even more complicated I don’t have this problem on my Windows 10 laptop when I use the same file, but I do have it on multiple Windows 7 desktops at my store.

I did a Jaws repair without any success and yesterday I took the time to completely remove Office 365 which I use and which install the Office 2016 applications on my PC, I also deleted all folders in the AppData folder which had to do with Office, Excel, Outlook or other Office programs. I then reinstalled Office 2016 from my Office 365 Small Business Premium subscription and afterwards opened Excel, loaded the file and it instantly crashed the first time I tried to change sheets.

On top of that I can’t use Control+Y any more in Outlook to change to a different mailbox or account, this one crashes Outlook even on my Windows 10 laptop. If, however, I use Control+Shift+Tab to go from the Inbox into the folder list and then go to a different folder or a different email account’s Inbox it is fine.

I spoke to Microsoft Accessibility and easily showed them after the agent connected to my PC how Excel crashes with Jaws 18 running and not if Jaws is not running and also how Outlook crashes when I use Control+Y, at this point they had no suggestions as to what causes this.

Tomorrow I will call Freedom sCientific and show them although I don’t think it’s strictly Jaws related, I have a feeling it’s some weird interaction between Jaws and maybe an Office update which causes this.

It would be good to hear from others who run Jaws 18 and Office 2016 both on Windows 7 and Windows 10 computers to see if they experience this as well.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

I have been facing problems in using Excel with JAWS since last Thursday (17/08/2017) & seek your kind assistance in solving them.

 

I am using a 64-bit desktop computer with Windows 7 as my operating system. I am using an original licenced version of Office 2016. Currently three versions of JAWS – 15, 17 & 18 are installed on my computer with JAWS 18 being my default version.

 

Until Thursday evening, everything was working fine without any problems. Since then, Excel hangs up whenever I try to work in it with either JAWS 17 or 18. If I work in Excel with JAWS 15, it works perfectly. All other Office 2016 products – Word, Powerpoint etc work properly irrespective of the JAWS version being used.

 

I have completely uninstalled all versions of JAWS including user settings & shared components but the problem continues after reinstallation of JAWS.

 

My computer engineer has verified that the Office 2016 software is properly installed & updated to the latest version. All Add-ins & unnecessary toolbars have been removed from Excel.

 

Kindly suggest how I can get Excel working properly with JAWS 17 & 18.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all suggestions.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


Re: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

Alan Robbins
 

Sieghard,

 

Recently setup JAWS 18, Office 2016 on my new intel NUC7 with Win pro 64 bit. I started having Jaws crash as well as excel 2016 all of a sudden going silent. Seemed it was working ok at first. I tried disabling One drive from running automatically since it says it keeps documents saved to it as well as one’s local computer. I thought maybe it was causing the system to hang  while trying to do something. No issues so far since disabling One drive which I don’t use anyway. Not sure if this info helps you or Sameer out at all.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

 

Hi Sameer,

 

This is similar to what I am experiencing. I think in my case this started last Monday or Tuesday. I know I used Excel and Outlook last week Saturday (August 12) because I use Excel and Outlook all the time throughout the day at my business. Then I can’t remember if it was Monday or Tuesday I opened one of my Excel files I work in almost every day, it has 3 summary sheets in the front and then a sheet for each day of the month where I record the sales figures from the zReport produced by my point of sale system. I opened the file and as usual pressed Control+Page Down to advance to the next sheet and Excel crashed, the message said the program was not responding and needed to close I think. I just thought it was one of these occasional crashes, I reopened the file and it happened again. I rebooted the computer and it kept on happening either when I changed sheets or even when I simply wanted to edit the content of a cell. I asked one of my sighted employees to take a look, we turned off Jaws and I could do everything without any issues. Interestingly enough the last Jaws 18 update was I think on July 11 and all I can think of is that maybe there was an Office update which broke something. Of course to make this even more complicated I don’t have this problem on my Windows 10 laptop when I use the same file, but I do have it on multiple Windows 7 desktops at my store.

I did a Jaws repair without any success and yesterday I took the time to completely remove Office 365 which I use and which install the Office 2016 applications on my PC, I also deleted all folders in the AppData folder which had to do with Office, Excel, Outlook or other Office programs. I then reinstalled Office 2016 from my Office 365 Small Business Premium subscription and afterwards opened Excel, loaded the file and it instantly crashed the first time I tried to change sheets.

On top of that I can’t use Control+Y any more in Outlook to change to a different mailbox or account, this one crashes Outlook even on my Windows 10 laptop. If, however, I use Control+Shift+Tab to go from the Inbox into the folder list and then go to a different folder or a different email account’s Inbox it is fine.

I spoke to Microsoft Accessibility and easily showed them after the agent connected to my PC how Excel crashes with Jaws 18 running and not if Jaws is not running and also how Outlook crashes when I use Control+Y, at this point they had no suggestions as to what causes this.

Tomorrow I will call Freedom sCientific and show them although I don’t think it’s strictly Jaws related, I have a feeling it’s some weird interaction between Jaws and maybe an Office update which causes this.

It would be good to hear from others who run Jaws 18 and Office 2016 both on Windows 7 and Windows 10 computers to see if they experience this as well.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problems in using Excel 2016 with JAWS 18 & 17

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

I have been facing problems in using Excel with JAWS since last Thursday (17/08/2017) & seek your kind assistance in solving them.

 

I am using a 64-bit desktop computer with Windows 7 as my operating system. I am using an original licenced version of Office 2016. Currently three versions of JAWS – 15, 17 & 18 are installed on my computer with JAWS 18 being my default version.

 

Until Thursday evening, everything was working fine without any problems. Since then, Excel hangs up whenever I try to work in it with either JAWS 17 or 18. If I work in Excel with JAWS 15, it works perfectly. All other Office 2016 products – Word, Powerpoint etc work properly irrespective of the JAWS version being used.

 

I have completely uninstalled all versions of JAWS including user settings & shared components but the problem continues after reinstallation of JAWS.

 

My computer engineer has verified that the Office 2016 software is properly installed & updated to the latest version. All Add-ins & unnecessary toolbars have been removed from Excel.

 

Kindly suggest how I can get Excel working properly with JAWS 17 & 18.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all suggestions.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


Deleting placemarkers

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

     It’s been a while, but I know how to delete these, I think. Press control shift and k to get to your placemarker list. Go to the placemarker/s you want to remove and hit the remove button … of course by tabbing to it. JAWS will ask you if you want to remove the mark, and just press okay. By the way, control shift and k is where you add permanent placemarkers, too.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Margaret Johnson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

 

I appreciate the e-mail about the placemarkers.  However, I am not sure how you ment to delete the permanent ones when you are  through with them.
Margaret

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hi Marilyn,

Yes, the Windows key is next to the left control key, it's the one which bring up your Windows start menu/search box.
Control+Windows Key+K as I said sets a "temporary" placemarker, if after you return to it you continue reading the web page and then set another placemarker at a different point using this key combination the first one is overwritten and the new location is marked. Also, if you exit whichever browser you use the placemarker is gone.
If you want to set permanent placemarkers you have to use the placemarker dialogue which you bring up with Control+Shift+K, then you can add a permanent placemarker by pressing Alt+A for "Add" or tab to "Add" and activate it. You can also remove existing placemarkers you have set. Typically any placemarkers you set here are specific to the website you are on, e.g. you could visit your banking website and set placemarkers for particular links, then go to a completely different website and set placemarkers there and each set of placemarkers only becomes relevant if you are on the correct website.
Placemarkers can be very useful and powerful just as Jaws Find can be (Insert+Control+f. Maybe I am reading a news article about something and somehow the site refreshes and I loose my place, if I remember one of the last words I read was "negotiations" I could just bring up Jaws Find, type in "negotiations" and chances are I am back exactly where I was before unless the word occurs several times, but in this case I can just press F3 each time I come to the word and it's not yet the place/context where I was before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place, then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas




























 


Re: Youtube and comments

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

This is very easy to do. As you’re signed into your account, start watching a video. You can hit the pause button to stop for a while so you can think clearly—somethings just make more sense if you’re not bombarded with noise, too. Anyway, scroll down until you come across the “add to liked videos”/like button. You can press a 2 to get to the comments/heading level two on h a few times to get there as well. After this, you’ll be able to add comments, so remember when JAWS says “form” and then “add comment …” you can press enter getting into form’s mode. After you’re comment, press the comment button, to the right of cancel. Need anymore information/it more clear? ask again as I’m willing to help.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian albriton
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Youtube and comments

 

I have a youtube account and while listening to some of my favorite videos, the presenter says to submit comments if you have a suggestion or something on that order. I’m not finding where to do that.

Any suggestions, or comments if you will, will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

               

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...

 

 


Re: Cursor on web page

Margaret Johnson
 

I appreciate the e-mail about the placemarkers. However, I am not sure how you ment to delete the permanent ones when you are through with them.
Margaret

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hi Marilyn,

Yes, the Windows key is next to the left control key, it's the one which bring up your Windows start menu/search box.
Control+Windows Key+K as I said sets a "temporary" placemarker, if after you return to it you continue reading the web page and then set another placemarker at a different point using this key combination the first one is overwritten and the new location is marked. Also, if you exit whichever browser you use the placemarker is gone.
If you want to set permanent placemarkers you have to use the placemarker dialogue which you bring up with Control+Shift+K, then you can add a permanent placemarker by pressing Alt+A for "Add" or tab to "Add" and activate it. You can also remove existing placemarkers you have set. Typically any placemarkers you set here are specific to the website you are on, e.g. you could visit your banking website and set placemarkers for particular links, then go to a completely different website and set placemarkers there and each set of placemarkers only becomes relevant if you are on the correct website.
Placemarkers can be very useful and powerful just as Jaws Find can be (Insert+Control+f. Maybe I am reading a news article about something and somehow the site refreshes and I loose my place, if I remember one of the last words I read was "negotiations" I could just bring up Jaws Find, type in "negotiations" and chances are I am back exactly where I was before unless the word occurs several times, but in this case I can just press F3 each time I come to the word and it's not yet the place/context where I was before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place, then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas


quick dot on keys you don't know

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

If you don’t know where your keys are like the windows logo key, you can press a quick dot on there—these are sticky things on the bottom but have rounded tops/I have some and they come in small and larger sizes. Anyway, you can clean the key after it’s located for you with sighted help before putting your dot on there. That’s what I’d suggest if you get lost on where needed keys are.

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

 

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas

















 


Re: Cursor on web page

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Thanks Dave.

Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Marilyn,

"So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?"
Depends on your keyboard, but on a standard full 101-key keyboard, that is where one of them is.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Bland" <tinkerbelltx@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 08:56
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page


Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left
control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place,
then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web
page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go
to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web
page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web
page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the
National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this The
only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after
returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This
cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on
the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for
future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of
continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I
left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to
arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas


Re: Cursor on web page

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Sieghard,

Thank you so much for all the information and clarifications. I am about to try this now. I wanted to be sure of what I would be doing - I can't afford to blunder here.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hi Marilyn,

Yes, the Windows key is next to the left control key, it's the one which bring up your Windows start menu/search box.
Control+Windows Key+K as I said sets a "temporary" placemarker, if after you return to it you continue reading the web page and then set another placemarker at a different point using this key combination the first one is overwritten and the new location is marked. Also, if you exit whichever browser you use the placemarker is gone.
If you want to set permanent placemarkers you have to use the placemarker dialogue which you bring up with Control+Shift+K, then you can add a permanent placemarker by pressing Alt+A for "Add" or tab to "Add" and activate it. You can also remove existing placemarkers you have set. Typically any placemarkers you set here are specific to the website you are on, e.g. you could visit your banking website and set placemarkers for particular links, then go to a completely different website and set placemarkers there and each set of placemarkers only becomes relevant if you are on the correct website.
Placemarkers can be very useful and powerful just as Jaws Find can be (Insert+Control+f. Maybe I am reading a news article about something and somehow the site refreshes and I loose my place, if I remember one of the last words I read was "negotiations" I could just bring up Jaws Find, type in "negotiations" and chances are I am back exactly where I was before unless the word occurs several times, but in this case I can just press F3 each time I come to the word and it's not yet the place/context where I was before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place, then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas


Re: Cursor on web page

 

Hi Marilyn,

Yes, the Windows key is next to the left control key, it's the one which bring up your Windows start menu/search box.
Control+Windows Key+K as I said sets a "temporary" placemarker, if after you return to it you continue reading the web page and then set another placemarker at a different point using this key combination the first one is overwritten and the new location is marked. Also, if you exit whichever browser you use the placemarker is gone.
If you want to set permanent placemarkers you have to use the placemarker dialogue which you bring up with Control+Shift+K, then you can add a permanent placemarker by pressing Alt+A for "Add" or tab to "Add" and activate it. You can also remove existing placemarkers you have set. Typically any placemarkers you set here are specific to the website you are on, e.g. you could visit your banking website and set placemarkers for particular links, then go to a completely different website and set placemarkers there and each set of placemarkers only becomes relevant if you are on the correct website.
Placemarkers can be very useful and powerful just as Jaws Find can be (Insert+Control+f. Maybe I am reading a news article about something and somehow the site refreshes and I loose my place, if I remember one of the last words I read was "negotiations" I could just bring up Jaws Find, type in "negotiations" and chances are I am back exactly where I was before unless the word occurs several times, but in this case I can just press F3 each time I come to the word and it's not yet the place/context where I was before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place, then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this. The only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas


Re: Cursor on web page

Dave...
 

Marilyn,

"So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left
control key, right?"
Depends on your keyboard, but on a standard full 101-key keyboard, that is
where one of them is.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Bland" <tinkerbelltx@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 08:56
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page


Sieghard,

So to make sure - the Windows key is the one right next to the bottom left
control key, right?

Also, when I leave the web and then return and press k and find my place,
then is that place marker operation cancelled? When I need to leave the web
page again, I would repeat all those keystrokes?

Thanks.

Marilyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

That would be my suggestion, just press Control+Windows Key+K before you go
to Word to set a temporary placemarker, then after you return to the web
page if your place has been lost press "k" and you are back where you were.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Would using place markers help?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 19, 2017 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Unfortunately, this is a common symptom when leaving and returning to a web
page window. This also happens to me when downloading talking books from the
National Library for the Blind. I don't know of any way to prevent this The
only thing I have found is to look for a word on the web page, and after
returning to it, search for that word using CONTROL plus the letter F. This
cuts down on the time needed to relocate your place on the web page.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Bland
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor on web page

Hello everyone,

I am encountering a very frustrating situation. I am reading something on
the internet, switch to my Word document to make a note of something for
future reference, then switch back to the web page with the intent of
continuing where I left off. However, instead of my cursor being where I
left off before the switch, it is at the top of the web page and I have to
arrow down through everything I have already read to find my place.

Why does this happen? Is there a way to stop this from happening?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn Bland - Dallas, Texas