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moderated Re: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Wow, well that's good to know from both of you.

I wonder what the problem could be? Both my husband and I tried it on two different Windows 10 computers, with one running JAWS 2018 and the other running JAWS 2020, and we both had similar issues.

I am at a loss to understand what the issue is.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback.



________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Deb and the girls via groups.io [debsoundandscent=earthlink.net@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 6:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

I used docusign two months ago with internet explorer and jaws 2020 on a
windows 7 laptop. I had a few hiccups, did not know any shortcuts, but was
able to successfully do my home refinance all on line by myself. I had a
great banker who thought of docusign and took pains to make sure everything
was prepared in it. I even found times where docusigntold me to use my
screen reader to read a certain part of the document. I was kind of happily
amazed by the whole experience.
Deb Ver Steeg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Funny, I received your e-mail exactly as I was using docusign. It worked
fine for me using Chrome and JAWS just now .






Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Hi All,

Has anyone tried using Docusign recently with JAWS, or NVDA for that matter?

We had used it about 3 years ago when selling a house and found it quite
accessible. However, today when we tried to use it again, it was unuseable.

For example, if you hit the letter B to navigate to the next button to sign,

and then hit enter or spacebar, no signature was applied. Focus was thrown
either to somewhere else in the document or completely into a different open

window. We found similar results with NVDA.

Has anyone had success using Docusign lately, and if so, with which screen
reader and browser? We were using Chrome.

I finally ended up trying it on my iPhone, and did have better luck there.

Thanks,
Pam


moderated Re: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Deb and the girls
 

I used docusign two months ago with internet explorer and jaws 2020 on a
windows 7 laptop. I had a few hiccups, did not know any shortcuts, but was
able to successfully do my home refinance all on line by myself. I had a
great banker who thought of docusign and took pains to make sure everything
was prepared in it. I even found times where docusigntold me to use my
screen reader to read a certain part of the document. I was kind of happily
amazed by the whole experience.
Deb Ver Steeg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Funny, I received your e-mail exactly as I was using docusign. It worked
fine for me using Chrome and JAWS just now .






Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Hi All,

Has anyone tried using Docusign recently with JAWS, or NVDA for that matter?

We had used it about 3 years ago when selling a house and found it quite
accessible. However, today when we tried to use it again, it was unuseable.

For example, if you hit the letter B to navigate to the next button to sign,

and then hit enter or spacebar, no signature was applied. Focus was thrown
either to somewhere else in the document or completely into a different open

window. We found similar results with NVDA.

Has anyone had success using Docusign lately, and if so, with which screen
reader and browser? We were using Chrome.

I finally ended up trying it on my iPhone, and did have better luck there.

Thanks,
Pam


moderated Re: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Rod
 

Funny, I received your e-mail exactly as I was using docusign. It worked fine for me using Chrome and JAWS just now .






Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Hi All,

Has anyone tried using Docusign recently with JAWS, or NVDA for that matter? We had used it about 3 years ago when selling a house and found it quite accessible. However, today when we tried to use it again, it was unuseable. For example, if you hit the letter B to navigate to the next button to sign, and then hit enter or spacebar, no signature was applied. Focus was thrown either to somewhere else in the document or completely into a different open window. We found similar results with NVDA.

Has anyone had success using Docusign lately, and if so, with which screen reader and browser? We were using Chrome.

I finally ended up trying it on my iPhone, and did have better luck there.

Thanks,
Pam


moderated Recent Accessibility of Docusign with JAWS

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi All,

Has anyone tried using Docusign recently with JAWS, or NVDA for that matter? We had used it about 3 years ago when selling a house and found it quite accessible. However, today when we tried to use it again, it was unuseable. For example, if you hit the letter B to navigate to the next button to sign, and then hit enter or spacebar, no signature was applied. Focus was thrown either to somewhere else in the document or completely into a different open window. We found similar results with NVDA.

Has anyone had success using Docusign lately, and if so, with which screen reader and browser? We were using Chrome.

I finally ended up trying it on my iPhone, and did have better luck there.

Thanks,
Pam


moderated Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Sure, happy to help!

If you use Excel and prefer that for using JAWS to review query results, you can also spool to a .csv file.

If you want suggestions on what needs to be set to do this, go ahead and write me off list.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This is very helpful! I will be experimenting. Thank you for the information.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This message was sent from outside of Boeing. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the content is safe.
Once you have set your environment for the database you want to access, run: select tablename from dba_tables.

You can also spool the results to a file so the file might be easier to read using JAWS, rather than reviewing it on the screen.
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Thank you, Pam! When you access the database through the command line, how do you find out which tables are in it? I know that once you know the table, you can find its columns with the describe command.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This message was sent from outside of Boeing. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the content is safe.
Mike,

I am an oracle DBA. Most of my access is via the command line and through sqlplus. I also use OEM (Oracle Enterprise Manager), though I find some aspects of the GUI a bit cumbersome with JAWS.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Hi,

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

Thank you,
Mike


moderated Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Walker, Michael E
 

This is very helpful! I will be experimenting. Thank you for the information.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This message was sent from outside of Boeing. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the content is safe.
Once you have set your environment for the database you want to access, run: select tablename from dba_tables.

You can also spool the results to a file so the file might be easier to read using JAWS, rather than reviewing it on the screen.
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Thank you, Pam! When you access the database through the command line, how do you find out which tables are in it? I know that once you know the table, you can find its columns with the describe command.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This message was sent from outside of Boeing. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the content is safe.
Mike,

I am an oracle DBA. Most of my access is via the command line and through sqlplus. I also use OEM (Oracle Enterprise Manager), though I find some aspects of the GUI a bit cumbersome with JAWS.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Hi,

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

Thank you,
Mike


moderated Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Once you have set your environment for the database you want to access, run: select tablename from dba_tables.

You can also spool the results to a file so the file might be easier to read using JAWS, rather than reviewing it on the screen.
________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Thank you, Pam! When you access the database through the command line, how do you find out which tables are in it? I know that once you know the table, you can find its columns with the describe command.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This message was sent from outside of Boeing. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the content is safe.
Mike,

I am an oracle DBA. Most of my access is via the command line and through sqlplus. I also use OEM (Oracle Enterprise Manager), though I find some aspects of the GUI a bit cumbersome with JAWS.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Hi,

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

Thank you,
Mike


moderated Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Walker, Michael E
 

Thank you, Pam! When you access the database through the command line, how do you find out which tables are in it? I know that once you know the table, you can find its columns with the describe command.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

This message was sent from outside of Boeing. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the content is safe.
Mike,

I am an oracle DBA. Most of my access is via the command line and through sqlplus. I also use OEM (Oracle Enterprise Manager), though I find some aspects of the GUI a bit cumbersome with JAWS.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Hi,

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

Thank you,
Mike


moderated Re: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Mike,

I am an oracle DBA. Most of my access is via the command line and through sqlplus. I also use OEM (Oracle Enterprise Manager), though I find some aspects of the GUI a bit cumbersome with JAWS.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Walker, Michael E via groups.io [michael.e.walker3=boeing.com@groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Hi,

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

Thank you,
Mike


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Jonas,

          You are correct that the screen curtain in JAWS will not save significant battery on a laptop since it only turns off the actual display, but does nothing with the backlight (which is actually a edge-spill light, but that doesn't really matter).  You have a lit black screen.  

           Just activated it on/off with INSERT+SPACE,F11 and it's clear that the backlight remains on.  Whether it remains on for hours I cannot say, and I cannot use my computer without looking at the screen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

 

Thank you,

Mike

 


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Richard Turner
 

As for the iPhone, if you set the brightness to auto, when you use the screen curtain, the brightness will go to 0; which does save battery.
I could imagine that if you are running a laptop on battery it may help a little; but I'm not a computer technician.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

having screen curtain turned on would preserve at least some battery, since not having to power the backlight of a display would reduce some battery consumption. This is why low power mode when activated on both the iPhone and most laptops along with other functions they will dim the Brightness of the screen to preserve battery power, as the brighter the screen the more battery power it takes, so having screen curtain on and therefore having brightness dimmed down to almost zero would preserve some battery. I think any pc or smart phone site advising on saving battery life will almost always tell you to reduce the brightness of your screen to preserve battery life. However, I think like Jim said though, it’s probably not such a huge saving and probably less than it used to be years ago with advances in technology and the display being less power hungry than they would have been in the past

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: 09 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

The screen curtain   In Jaws will not save on your battery!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

having screen curtain turned on would preserve at least some battery, since not having to power the backlight of a display would reduce some battery consumption. This is why low power mode when activated on both the iPhone and most laptops along with other functions they will dim the Brightness of the screen to preserve battery power, as the brighter the screen the more battery power it takes, so having screen curtain on and therefore having brightness dimmed down to almost zero would preserve some battery. I think any pc or smart phone site advising on saving battery life will almost always tell you to reduce the brightness of your screen to preserve battery life. However, I think like Jim said though, it’s probably not such a huge saving and probably less than it used to be years ago with advances in technology and the display being less power hungry than they would have been in the past

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: 09 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

The screen curtain   In Jaws will not save on your battery!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Accessible Blogging Websites

Richard B. McDonald
 

WordPress and JAWS are in my experience the best.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Shumate
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 4:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible Blogging Websites

Hi all,
I am new to Jaws 2020. What website is best to start a Blog and what browser works best?


--
Laura Shumate larelishumate@...


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Gmail Jonas
 

The screen curtain   In Jaws will not save on your battery!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Accessible Blogging Websites

Laura Shumate
 

Hi all,
I am new to Jaws 2020. What website is best to start a Blog and what
browser works best?


--
Laura Shumate larelishumate@...


moderated Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi guys,

 

I just tried this option with jaws2020 latest update and a set of headfones (don’t know the make).

This might be of some use to someone.

I am using windows 10 home edition and jaws2020 latest versions of everything.

When I turn on my headfones first, they still cut out, even with jaws set to keep the sound card awake.

The only way to have this option actually work for me, is to shutdown jaws2020 and then restart it.

After that, everything works fine.

However, if I then turn off the headfones and turn them on again, they keep cutting out as if the jaws option is not set.

So to summarize:

Turn on headfones.

Turn off jaws.

Restart jaws.

Ye!!!

Haven’t tried it with speakers, as I have a pare of sony srs x-11.

They are absolutely useless, in that they connect to my bluetooth, once every 300 years!!!

 

Hope this helps someone,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 8 July 2020 17:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option

 

Hi Steven,

 

Are you asking about audio ducking?  If so, read below.

 

Note: The new setting is explained after the 2 emails.
 Original Message 

 

From: Jessica D
Hi, 

 

I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled. 

 

I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 
From:
Bill White

 

Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while audio is being
ducked, another application is running which uses the sound card. If another application is using the sound card, that application will usually keep the
sound card awake, independently of JAWS. 

 

Bill White 

 

 
New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech
When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking  
Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound
cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by
constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature,
open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to
load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using
Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."
 
Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you
choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the
Audio
Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while
JAWS speaks.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:51 AM

Subject: Sound Card Keep Awake Option

 

Can anyone tell me where to find this new option please?

I Assume that it is disabled by default?

 


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Jim Weiss
 

Paul,
Actually your battery savings will be minimal.  This is documented by Apple as well on their website.  The main drain for displaying graphics is the GPU and not the actual display.  Turning on screen curtain or screen shade does not shut down the GPU, all of the graphics rendering is still happening, it is just not being displayed.  You will save some battery by enabling it, but according to Apple the average user will not even notice the savings.  I am also a Mac and iPhone user and have screen curtain enabled on both of my devices almost all of the time and my battery lasts about the exact same.  With screen curtain off on my Mac Book I get 8 hours of battery, with it turned on the battery meter still reads 8 hours.  Now that 8 hours also depends on what I am doing, reading email and word processing is much less drain than running a Win 10 VM in VMware Fusion.
The main reason for screen shade/curtain is privacy.
HTH,
Jim
Jim Weiss


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On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:52 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:

Hi Ashleigh,
 
No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too. 
 
Paul 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
 
I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay? 

Ashleigh Piccinino



On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io<paul.lemm@...> wrote:

 
Hi everyone,
 
I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?
 
Paul Lemm



moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

paul lemm
 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino



On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Edge Tutorial?

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

The only thing i found so far with edge is the "jaws find" option.
The ctrl+f does not work in jaws 2018, instead, it brings up the "find" box in edge itself.
However, this was fixed in jaws 2020. I have jaws 2020 running in 40 minute mode.
Just in case, has anyone found a fix for this in jaws2018?

pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Thursday 9 July 2020 00:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial?

Is edge accessible now?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Edge Tutorial?

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.

Thanks,
Dani